This is a question that has always fascinated me. Every religion has its followers, non-followers, and at one extreme haters who are openly against it. The strange thing is (especially in the United States), the haters of Christianity usually harbor a very high level of hatred and disgust toward the religion. It is rare to even find so called "haters" of other religions among most non-followers. In short, Christianity seems to be the one religion in the United States where people most often either zealously follow or zealously dispise. Why do you think is the reason for that?

I think you answered your own question Dio Seijuro. It is in fact the over zealous Christians cramming religion down the throats of those who do not wish to hear that cause people to hate and resent their religion.

In the U.S. Christianity is the bigger religion, and when a non-Christian question's Christianity there are those that feel the non-Christian is evil. Not all Christians feel this way but there are those groups(few, but enough) of Christians that feel there need to show what is evil and what is good(of course they're usually the same ones that don't look in there own yard first)

Every Christian that I have posted with on this board seems to be good hearted.

Originally posted by mad dog
In the U.S. Christianity is the bigger religion,

I think that's the explanation right there. I imagine that the Christians in Turkey get annoyed with the Muslim majority there and the Muslims in Isreal are equally annoyed with the Jewish majority. The loudest voice is the one people are going to react to.

Originally posted by ugababe117
Because, you cannot prove anything in the christian Bible wrong and that scares people so they deny everything and don't believe.
I certainly think science has advanced enough to prove that the Earth is not a mere 5000 years old, not to mention other things (a flood that covered even Mt. Everest? That would certainly leave some interesting fossils about. A mere two of every animal? How do you account for the genetic diversity within species? And how did Noah fit hundreds of thousands of species on that ark of his?).

Originally posted by BorgHunter
I certainly think science has advanced enough to prove that the Earth is not a mere 5000 years old, not to mention other things (a flood that covered even Mt. Everest? That would certainly leave some interesting fossils about. A mere two of every animal? How do you account for the genetic diversity within species? And how did Noah fit hundreds of thousands of species on that ark of his?).
I thought I already answered these questions for you.

Originally posted by Mopoloton
I thought I already answered these questions for you.
LMAO!

Well there you have it, science as disproved some of the Bible. I am not saying the whole Bible is bull, but in the same respect some of the stories in the Bible do seem to be twisted pretty good.

The Bible was not meant to be taken literally it is stories. Stories to teach and guide people into being better human beings. Stories to make people believe that something else guides us and helps us. No the great flood was notexactly how the bible described it but it doesn't mean it didn't happen!!!! Every culture all over the world has a story of a great flood, they just all made up ther own stories on how we survived!!!!

i once heard that there was a "great flood" where the black sea spilled over into the meditteranean.

Originally posted by standalone
The Bible was not meant to be taken literally it is stories. Stories to teach and guide people into being better human beings. Stories to make people believe that something else guides us and helps us.
I completely agree. Stories, that's all the Bible is. A great work of fiction to be sure, but also one which people take too literally, which has caused much bloodshed throughout the years and still incites hate.

whether or not the stories of the bible are fiction isn't really that big of a deal to many...m aybe it makes me a bad christian, but i think the lessons taught by the bible are more important that believing it all happened.

Let me get this straight your admitting the Bible is not true, but you still use it for your religion. If your manual isn't true then how can the religion be true? Which parts of the book are true? Does someone pick up the book and say well I'll except this ....that.....this .....oh and this, there that fits my life, but the rest is bull? Either this book is true or it isn't, it can not be both. Religion is not just while we are here, it is for eternity.

Originally posted by mad dog
Let me get this straight your admitting the Bible is not true, but you still use it for your religion. If your manual isn't true then how can the religion be true?

It's not so much that it's not true it's that it's the interpretation of events by flawed humans. The basics are true (if you're a believer).

LionelHutz;

I agree there have been things interpreted wrong but the events still happened, maybe just not in the scale of the way it was written. My question was more for Standalone he said that the Bible is just made up of stories. Maybe he is correct, but I have a feeling that the stories took place just maybe not the way they were reported. Kind of like the way our own modern day media twist the news or adds there 2 sense. I think if a person is open minded they can compare certain stories from the Bible with history and find were things might have happened. Now if a person believes enough in the Bible they will believe in the Christian faith. On the other hand another person could use the Bible as a history tool but not completely believe the faith part of it. Bottom line is the Bible does have good stories and I think it also has some truths, depending how one interprets the story/stories.

WE aren't saying that the Bible is false but it was authored by humans to project the word of God, well as humans and unperfect it is not the perfect truth. Because humans are not perfect!! I might be saying it wrong can someone help me out.

I think I understand what your saying, the Bible was written by humans so it is not correct? Even though it is not correct it could hold some truth? For a Christian it holds more then just truth it gives them faith?

How do we prove what is true, and what is not? We also have to think the way folks did back then, imaginations were high. It is hard to figure what they were writting, just because of the difference between us and them(thoughts). Lets not forget how much has been lost through fires, wars, etc.... How much was forced onto people and how much was real teachings? Look at how scientist were treated when they came up with new theories. They either had to say they were wrong and made a mistake or they would get burned at the stake. So even if someone could have proven the Bible false way back then, would it have been allowed? Christianity is a hard religion to figure, because of everything that has happened through history. The religion was used to gain power and fear, so how much is true, how much could have been proven false (back then) and how much knowledge (time) was wasted in the name of a religion?

In response to my own topic, here is some of my thoughs:

I think Christianity, as compared to many other religions, is somewhat more pushy by nature, and it also spawns a large proportion of pushy believers. This means that in a place where the dominant religion is Christianity, those who do not believe in it are:

1. Compelled to feel that it is not sufficient to be "don't care" (Agnostics) to fight back the constant pressure.

2. Strongly despise the pushiness and thus feel the need to "anti" the religion.

In any case, this results in Christians VS Athiests a common scenario in places where Christianity is the dominant religion.

I have a new one-word answer to this intriguing question: Ugababe.

LionelHutz LMAO

I think the reason for so many contradictions in the Bible is simple because of translation. I think over the years people have translated it to fit their needs. At least they call it translation. But they have actually changed it.

Originally posted by LionelHutz
I have a new one-word answer to this intriguing question: Ugababe.

hahaha:D :D

To answer the original question -- "why does christianity inspire hatred?" -- because
christians insist on shoving it down the throats of every other religion in the world and
never have we had a clearer exemple than what we are doing in Iraq -- disguising ourselves
as christians that have come to save the middle east and bring democracy (and christianity)
to the ME -- it's laughble at best.

We are about a 'Christian New World Order', orchestrated by several religious and world
leaders. If we go back over a decade we find one of the first references to the 'CNWO'
made by no other than Pope John Paul in his religious statement: "Man has no reliable
hope of a viable geo-political system, unless it is on the basis of Catholic Christianity"
- [Keys of this Blood - Malachi Martin c1990]. I suspect this is a mangling of Revelation
13:8 "all who dwell on the earth shall worship him whose names have not been written in
the book of life...".

I also suspect that by 'him' it is meant 'The antichrists'.

It was shortly after this that #41 would visit the pope along with Mikhail Gorbachev
who would promise freedom of religion to all believers as the walls of communism came
down in the USSR. #41 reinforces the New World Order in his State of the Union address:
"It is a big idea; a new world order where nations to come together for a common cause".
As we know, he lost the next election to Bill Clinton and probably nothing more was
thought about the CNWO.

Fast-forwarding to year 2000 we see #43 visited the Vatican (twice) and assuring
PJP (I hope initializing the pope's name isn't a sin) and followed inline with the
pope to reject further funding of stem cells. #41 was there for a "private visit"
in October just after 9/11.

Probably the most recent reference to the CNWO is the now famous line from #43:
"Every nation has a decision to make - either you are with us or with the terrorists".
More recently for PJP, he brought some 250 religious leaders of all faiths together
in Italy back on January 24th, 2002 for prayerful peace talks, the consequences of
which, have made PJP into a peacemaker and emboldened him to set USA foreign policy
regarding a Palestinian State. A visit to Israel and the Muslim nations, back in 2000
is what set up this move.

The New World Order will be very visable to the world after Iraq falls, the ME is
destabized and the Israel/PA conflict reaches heights never imagined. Islam will see
the false light in a Palestinian State. Falwell and Robertson will clasp hands with
their Roman brothers.

As the CNWO power base builds upon itself and becomes nearly unstoppable, they will
seek new legislation to further their ends and decrees for sacredness to influence
Congress to unite church and state, all in the name of spiritualism.

Make no mistake, it will not end there, for the planning had been long, intense and
addictive. It will turn into a economic-politico-religio globalization that resembles
a disease as corporatist join in with the trillions skimmed from the stock market, that
had been havened off-shore, unnoticed and untouched.

A digital economy will shift our lives into 24/7 real-time e-service transactions
ridding us of paper currency and coins, finally making us a paperless society. National
Sabbath laws will require us to record our allegiance or attendance with a biometrically
scanned smartcard, at a local church, Mosque or Temple.

Countries that try to escape the CNWO will find economic sanctions awaiting them. The
same type that had a role in collapsing communism in the Soviet Union and bringing down
the Berlin Wall. China will face similar economic pressure becuase she is interdependant
on advanced USA high tech, specifically the internet. Islam also knows it cannot survive
without the selling of oil or its economy will collapse. Russsia is moving into real-time
oil services which means soon all oil trading will move to the net making ISLAM extremely
vulnerable to the USA digital globalization.

Eventually the sanctions will become individual as all inhabitants of the earth choose
to be 'for' or 'against' the Christian New World Order. Noone will be there to come to the
rescue as the then complete unification of church and state will not allow for it. Choices
will be clear.

The only hope will be the constant breaking away of rogue nations, forming antithesis', with
the hopes of becoming powerful enough for a re-synthesizing of the world. This will only
serve to drag us closer and closer to nuclear war and the end of mankind. I will be watching
for the light, as inevitably the rapture sets in and descends upon us with the apocolypse,
the armageddon and the final realization that all souls are either saved or damned and not
knowing which has been chosen for me.

Hopefully there will be enough time left for me to play some of my old records, twist-n-burn
a fatty, say to hell with drug testing and think about why America decided to give up her freedoms and permanently alienate ourselves from reality.

DISCLAIMER: All quotations are my paraphrase.

Just my 2 cents

Dop

Originally posted by ugababe117
If I was still stuck in middle school...I might find that funny....no definitely not, i was never that immature.

The bible is completely true, every single word of it. Some things are just inexplainable, but they did happen. If you haven't ever read the Bible and taken it for what it's worth, you'd be saying exactly what y'all are "the Bible is only half true, there's no way blah blah blah blah blah"

Anything else you'd like to know?

If every word in the Bible is true do you also believe that everything is still applicable now as it was when written, or do you believe that some of the rules were only applicable during the period in history when the books were first transcribed?

Also what do you mean when you say "taken it for what it's worth"?

ugababe:

Now try and post a thought or two on my other topic, "When You Cannot Prove The Bible Wrong." I'm curious as to what you'd say.

Originally posted by ugababe117
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Absolutely, everything in the Bible is certainly applicable today. I meant that when you're reading it your heart has to be in the right place, you can't read it with your mind already made up that it's not true all the time.

How do you reconcile the biblical passages that tell you how to treat your slaves, or the prohibitions against eating most seafood, or even the biblical passages that suggest women should never teach men anything? Are they still applicable today? The Bible also says that bats are birds, do you accept that as truth?

Believe it or not I'm not trying to ridicule you or your beliefs in any way, I'm trying to understand your level of belief. I know you said that everything in the Bible is true and just as applicable today as it was when it was written, but surely there must be parts of the Bible that you know are innacurate or rules stated in the Bible that you feel no longer apply.

Originally posted by ugababe117
If I was still stuck in middle school...I might find that funny....no definitely not, i was never that immature.

Oh no, of course you weren't. :rolleyes:

Nevertheless, if you ask a lot of people why they hate Christianity, the first thing they'll tell you is that they run into a lot of Christians that treat other people rather poorly while at the same time holding themselves out as special because they go to church alot. If you want to say that that's perfect acceptable behavior and that you don't care what others think of it, that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people hate Christians for that very reason.

religion is a force used by the upper class to gain control over the helpless proletariat. it's an abusive thing. that's not to say that spirituality is, but the hanressing and organizing of it is one of the most horrible forces in the world. it just empowers a corrupted few. sound familiar? capitalism stemmed from it. therefore, the bible is just a meidum of further control. it's irrelevent whether it's tru or not, it just matters that it's used for bad things.

Originally posted by WhammyBar
religion is a force used by the upper class to gain control over the helpless proletariat. it's an abusive thing. that's not to say that spirituality is, but the hanressing and organizing of it is one of the most horrible forces in the world. it just empowers a corrupted few. sound familiar? capitalism stemmed from it. therefore, the bible is just a meidum of further control. it's irrelevent whether it's tru or not, it just matters that it's used for bad things.

WTF? Are you just stringing together random concepts you learned in class the other day in order to sound intelligent? While religion is more common among the poor than the rich, I can't think of any mechanism through which the rich benefit from this fact. If anything, a lot of the tenets common to religion, such as not wanting material things and giving money to the poor would be the theoretical opposite of what a rich manipulator would want.

Ugagbabe

I'm sorry to bust your bubble but the bible is not 100% fact. If you believe your faith can come from the Bible that's fine, but some of the stories are just that "stories".

Whammy

You are the extreme going the other way. The Bible is not some evil tool. I think you and Ugababe should sit down and have a long talk, maybe when your done you'll find a happy medium.

Again, please give some thought for my other topic. Scientists have also not been able to prove any other religious texts wrong. So why do you not say that you KNOW some other text is 100% correct instead of the bible? I think the word BELIEVE is more fitting.

Clearly ugababe has her beliefs and the rest of us have our own...why we can't just get along I dont know (what am I turning into?). The bible can be 100% fact to someone if they want it to be, that's just that. Someone might not agree with that, but just tolerate it, rather than force your beliefs on the other person.

Originally posted by ugababe117
See, that's where you're wrong...I don't "BELIEVE" the Bible is 100% true, I KNOW it is 100% true. Scientists have tried numerous times to prove it wrong but they never have been able to and they never will.
That is because, by definition, science can NEVER prove ANYTHING wrong without knowing 100% what is RIGHT. The burden of proof lies on the Bible-believing, not the Bible-denying. I admit I cannot prove it wrong. But you say you know it is 100% right. Prove it.

be·lieve
v. be·lieved, be·liev·ing, be·lieves
v. tr.

1. To accept as true or real. Do you believe the news stories?

But science can, and has, given sufficient enough evidence(other than going back in time and videotaping it all), to "prove" half of the facts presented in the bible wrong. Creationism, Noah's ark, uh, most of the old testament.

Ugababe

I'm not challenging your believes, or your faith in the Bible. Even the higher up Christian leaders will say that not every single story in the Bible is 100% accurate. These are people that have devoted their entire life existence to Christianity. Why are you so blind, or are you just getting things wound up again?

Originally posted by ugababe117
I don't know what type of Christians told you that (they must have been snake handlers)...I grew up in a catholic school and was ALWAYS taught and PROVEN that the Bible was 100% accurate and to not believe that is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE sin....what you're saying is that basically God is lying and that is soooooo wrong!

I was taught the Bible EVERYDAY until 9th grade...I know what I'm talking about. Just because you don't know what you're talking about doesn't mean you can make up stuff and say I'm wrong. God has a lot more powers than you think...He can do ANYTHING He wants...why is that so hard to understand. (rhetorical question!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I'll defer to your expertise on the bible here ugababe. I was wondering if you could explain the following passage to me.

Leviticus 11
13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Is the bat considered a fowl? Do you believe that to be accurate? You have stated in previous posts that you are going to college, and your profile says you are an engineer. I assume you have had some scientific training in at least physics, if not some basic biology. How does the bibles classifiction of a bat as a fowl compare to the biological classification of the bat as a mammal?

Originally posted by ugababe117
Fowl:
Any related bird. Birds collectively

Now you tell me what type of animal a bird is. Let's travel back to elementary school...A BIRD!!!!!!!!!!!

So to answer your question yes I do believe that to be accurate!

Are you saying that bats are birds? Or are you saying birds are birds? You're post was somewhat incoherent. I'm not asking you what you learned in elementary school ugababe, I want to know what you think now.

Originally posted by ugababe117
and to not believe that is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE sin....

That's a nice touch! :) Keeps them from having to prove anything because if you ask for proof, you're a sinner! Personally, I think my faith is stronger now because I questioned it so much when I was a teenager.

Originally posted by ugababe

...I grew up in a catholic school and was ALWAYS taught and PROVEN that the Bible was 100% accurate and to not believe that is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE sin....what you're saying is that basically God is lying and that is soooooo wrong!

I was taught the Bible EVERYDAY until 9th grade...I know what I'm talking about. Just because you don't know what you're talking about doesn't mean you can make up stuff and say I'm wrong. God has a lot more powers than you think...He can do ANYTHING He wants...why is that so hard to understand.

There are many problems here.

1) Like I've voiced out so many times before, you can as easily picture someone grew up being taught another religion and proven that it was 100% correct (except maybe not that to not believe it is a horrible horrible sin; it's a Chritianity specialty). In this way, everyone in the world who is religious is going to some other religion's hell, and that's not constructive thinking. It's a matter of belief, one of your problems, ugababe, and I am trying to help you here, is trying to argue with people about it as if Chritianity and science are good friends of each other so that it really isn't a religion, but a truth. But it's a religion, and a religion is a belief. When other people don't believe in what you believe, you can say it's good because of this and that, but you don't pull out science and leave without exlplaining how science helps your argument. It doesn't. It helps Christianity as much as it helps Daoism, or Hinduism, or Athiesm.

2) I know you get angry at the people here picking on you, so you can't keep on typing too long (or something) before you have to get the hell out of here, but if you always make some very daring statement and use the word "proven...", and leave without explaining it, people are going to think that you don't know what you are talking about. You do want everyone to take your arguments serious, right?

3) Look at the 2nd paragraph. You said "why is it so hard to understand?" Again, the problem here is that everyone already knows that *to a Christian*, God has a lot of power and can do anything he wants to. That's what they *understand*, but not everyone *believe* in that. Some people are following other religions, and some people are athiests, and some are don't cares like me. So when you try to argue with other people, you really can't assume that everyone is some kind of a "drop out Christian". It doesn't help to think that this world consists of those people whom God love and those whom God has abandoned. Again (yeah, again), to think of it this way is equivalent to saying everyone is loved by the God of their religion but at the same time abandoned by the God of every other religion!

4) You also said that it's so wrong to think God is lying. The interesting thing here is: if you based your knowledge [including the fact that he doesn't lie] of God from what he says (for example the bible), then, well, logically, the fact that he doesn't lie (which he told you), could be a lie itself. You see the problem here? Your sole knowledge of God is from what he told you. The fact that it's all correct is an assumption you have to make yourself, but your can't objectively prove it. Logic can be funny sometimes, and that's why I told you in the beginning not to mess with science when you argue religion.

Hope this helps.

ugababe, it doesn't seem that you have actually thought much about your religion, but just believed blindly what you were taught.

"I was taught the Bible EVERYDAY until 9th grade...I know what I'm talking about."

so i see that ugababe117 the christian ninth grader is mature enough to choose her own religion. is sputnik the atheistic ninth grader mature enough to choose hers?

nobody's picking on you. they're looking out for you. by telling you to think, it's helping you. can you truly believe something until you've questioned it, and found it to be true acording to YOU and not the people who taught it to you? it might be surprising, but I went to a Jewish school for many many years (this is my first year in American public school, I'm in 9th grade) and we were taught about the bible extremely ardently. I know an afwul lot about the old testament. for many years, I beleived every word of it, but I started to question it after awhile. the moment I started thinking, which is a simple and easy thing to do, I realized that I was being fed total bullshit for all those years. it could happen to you. and you know what? if you realize that what you were being taught is all true, then it will be even more fulfilling to believe in because YOU realized it, instead of someone just telling it to you.

Originally posted by ugababe117
You people just talk in circles..I'm done with this subject...you'll have to find somebody else to pick on from now on.
Seems like you cannot refute our arguments so you leave? Or are we "picking on you" when you yell at everybody telling them that you don't like us? I think there are so many people against you you feel overwhelmed. Not surprising, since you fall into logical fallacies and are arguing from an indefensible position.

Ugababe, you seem to take high the fact that you were taught the bible everyday until ninth grade. Now then, my qualifications may not be as high, but I was at a Catholic school in 2nd grade, I went to the afterschool program from kindergarden until 5th, I went to sunday school, and I have been going to Church every sunday since I was a baby. There is one thing I hate, and it is when people think I know nothing about the bible just because I am an athiest.

Your argument that you know what you are talking about more than anybody else has been shot down. Whammy knows about the Old Testament, I the new. And I have yet to see you show any actions that Jesus taught.

Originally posted by ugababe117
You people just talk in circles..I'm done with this subject...you'll have to find somebody else to pick on from now on.

Poor thing...I think we made her cry :rolleyes:

Nah, she's probably too drunk off her ass to cry. Christians, when god stops working as a drug, they have to turn to another one.

Originally posted by Blibblob
Nah, she's probably too drunk off her ass to cry. Christians, when god stops working as a drug, they have to turn to another one. kindly fuck yourself blob boy

Originally posted by ugababe117
3. I may know right from wrong but it has no affect on me

Obviously not :rolleyes:

ugababe117, you're the most hypocritical person in know. you don't seem to care about the difference between right and wrong, you call yourself a christian yet you drink, curse, and repeatedly act bitchy, and you told me i was going to hell, then denied this a few posts later, then when i quoted you saying it you actually agreed with yourself and then went right back to denying you ever said it. i wonder if jesus would approve....

Originally posted by HaVoK
kindly fuck yourself blob boy
lol Way to go, Havok! :D (I'm being serious, not facetious, btw.)
Originally posted by sputnik
i wonder if jesus would approve....
If Jesus existed, he most certainly would not. Jesus preached love for everyone, including your enemies, not hate like ogrebabe has.

quote:Originally posted by HaVoK
kindly fuck yourself blob boy

lol Way to go, Havok! (I'm being serious, not facetious, btw.)
Hehe

Originally posted by ugababe117
I know about the Bible...I never said I lived by it or for that matter tried to or wanted to

You have stated that you "know" rather than "believe" the Bible is 100% true. How is it that you came by this knowledge?

Originally posted by ugababe117
If you have never been "in" the Bible you won't have any idea what I'm talking about. Until you have TRULY been a Christian you won't beleive...I KNOW and BELIEVE the Bible is true. That's all I can say...it's a power beyond science...and from the way y'all have been talking no one has been that close to God which would explain why you want scientifical facts that can't be given to you.

"Knowing" and "believing" aren't compatible. If you don't know, then you believe. If you know, then you don't have to believe. And if you know for sure, then you have scientific facts that can prove it. So why not let us in on the secret?

Let me get this straight, you believe that the bible is true, but don't live by it?

if you don;'t have any interest in living the way the bible tells you too, why do you preach as if you do?



Originally posted by ugababe117
scientifical facts


scientifical? WHO are you!!?? Jesscia Simpson?

Originally posted by ugababe117
If you have never been "in" the Bible you won't have any idea what I'm talking about. Until you have TRULY been a Christian you won't beleive...I KNOW and BELIEVE the Bible is true. That's all I can say...it's a power beyond science...and from the way y'all have been talking no one has been that close to God which would explain why you want scientifical facts that can't be given to you.

I was raised Catholic and did believe,... then something happened. I have a much different outlook then what a book written by humans has to say about the ALLMIGHTY FORCE. You are wrong when you say close to God, there are alot of people close to God that don't need a book written by HUMANS. What is so bad with mixing science with religion, why couldn't they go hand in hand? After all God is the creater, so he must have created science?

Originally posted by ugababe117
I know about the Bible...I never said I lived by it or for that matter tried to or wanted to

So you'll preach from it, use it to belittle others, use it tell others they are wrong, then turn around and not use it for yourself? Wow, God must be proud of you, or maybe you feel you are equal to or above God?

i went to a catholic school till 7th grade and there are things in the bible even I don't believe....does this make me a non-catholic?

Originally posted by ugababe117
I know about the Bible...I never said I lived by it or for that matter tried to or wanted to
WTF? Then how the hell can you call yourself Christian?!

Originally posted by silverbulletkc
i went to a catholic school till 7th grade and there are things in the bible even I don't believe....does this make me a non-catholic?

No. Today we're called Recovering Catholics. Check the yellow pages, there may be meetings in your neighborhood. It's a multiple step program, each better than the last as you get further and further away.

Originally posted by es347fan
No. Today we're called Recovering Catholics. Check the yellow pages, there may be meetings in your neighborhood. It's a multiple step program, each better than the last as you get further and further away.
Actually the question was for uga to see what kind of response I would get and see how many people start bashing it...but thanks for the actual answer anyway:D

Wow...is my sarcasm that hard to decipher? Recovering Catholics is a term coined during an after-hours gathering I attended while at a psychiatric conference some 25 years ago. Just remember, wherever you find 4 Catholics, you always find a fifth!