Please explain this:

Noah took two of every animal into his boat. The number of land species on earth is roughly 18,000,000 according to the World Resources Institute and National Geographic. Now add to that the number of freshwater animals. The supplies required for all of these animals and the containers for them would be enormous. Nearly all of the animals would have to be separated or they might eat each other. In addition, we know that in order for a species to survive it must reproduce and if one of the two creatures dies then the species will become extinct. Taking the numbers from the slave trade, where often 50% of the Africans did not survive, the number of animals present must have been close to 50,000,000 (that includes doubling the species (2 of each), adding the freshwater and being generous on the number which would die on the trip). Separate containers, along with provisions and a HUGE abundance of fresh water for drinking and for the fresh water animals would have weighed an enormous amount that no tanker even today made of METAL could withstand. The ark was made of wood. Plus in order to take care of every animal, lets say that each animal requires only two minutes of time each day, that’s 832,000 HOURS each day. If every one of those crew worked for 24 hours every day, they would need 35,000 workers just to take care of the animals. Now how many helpers did the bible say helped out on the ark?

I don't think the Ark story is totally false or true. The ark could have happened in a part of the world, as far is it happeneing in all of the world, no way. I do think there could have been a flood and also a boat that saved some animlas in a certain place.

I view the Bible as the writers' interpretation of events and the world around them, not as an actual literal record of events.

Yes, clearly it would not be possible to put every annimal onto a ship. As Mr Hutz says above - I don't think it's supposed to be literal.

there have been records of a flood in the mesopotamian region that deposited THIRTY FEET of topsoil in one year: compared to the average 6 inches or so, that had to be a pretty big flood. that a boat could have been made that contained as many samples of animal life that they could find is not out of the question.

Noah's Ark was a multi-dimensional ship that existed on several planes of reality allowing all 18 million plus species of critters to be housed sufficiently.

Originally posted by es347fan
Noah's Ark was a multi-dimensional ship that existed on several planes of reality allowing all 18 million plus species of critters to be housed sufficiently.
Truthfully, that sounds more feasible than the "traditional" story. :D

Originally posted by es347fan
Noah's Ark was a multi-dimensional ship that existed on several planes of reality allowing all 18 million plus species of critters to be housed sufficiently.



Sounds like Dr. Who's Tardis.

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Interesting part of History Folk's!


Noah's Ark,and Earth History!

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahsark.html

Is Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat ?

http://www.arkonararat.com



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that sounds kinda like something from wayne's world....

you know, WE'RE NOT WORTHY!

i probably sound like a real anti-christian bitch saying that, but i HAD to point it out...

i feel bad for sarah rose, i wish she would say someting to us instead of just posting links to crazy sites and telling us about how the redemptions gonna come real soon and all of us heathens are goin straight to HELL.

Originally posted by sputnik
i probably sound like a real anti-christian bitch saying that, but i HAD to point it out...
I know in advance that I am going to be oh-so-flamed for my new sig quotes. I'll add a disclaimer here: I just thought they were damned funny and most Christians aren't bad people. It's the ones that are that make me put such quotes there. :D

Those are good quotes. And unfortunately quite accurate. :)

It doesn't matter Christian or not, if you believe in god that is all you need to know. God provided for Noah and his ark, crew, animals, whatever. Noah had faith in God, he didn't question it and he was provide for. Same with any religion christian, buddist, pagan, whatever. Have faith, believe in what your going to believe in and you shall be provided. Besides, I'm just one of those people who thing to bible is just a good read. What do I know.

sometimes its kinda hard to be an atheist in the united states without sounding anti-christian

it's hard to be atheist anywhere without sounding anti christian, sputnik. there are those christians who just insist on forcing their beliefs down the collective non-christian population of the world's throats. while those people comprise the minority among christians, they are by far the loudest. i find myself feeling anti-christian trying to defend my own christian beliefs at times talking to them.

We know almost certainly that the account of the flood that appears in the Bible is not an original story. There is a description of a great flood that is identical to the biblical flood story in many respects, which appears in The Epic of Gilgamesh, a tale of a Babylonian warrior-king that predates the Bible by several centuries.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/noah_com.htm

Given that two examples of early literature both contain stories of a great flood that are very similar in detail, we can assume that perhaps the stories have a common origin in an actual event that occurred in our prehistory.

One such event might have been the flooding of a freshwater lake that is now the Black Sea that occured around 5500BC.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_noah.htm

If in fact this event occurred, it would have displaced hundreds, if not thousands of prehistoric people living around the shores of this freshwater lake as the waters of the Mediterranean Sea rushed in. It is not hard to imagine individuals, families or indeed whole villages suddenly finding themselves on an island in rising flood waters, and constructing boats to save themselves and what livestock they could. If just one of their tales of escaping a massive flood survived, it could have formed the basis of the flood story both in the Gilgamesh tale and in the Bible.

Well putting aside the argument for whether or not the flood happened (there is evidence of a flood, but not one proportional to what the bible suggests) The ark does not seem feasible in the least. Plus Noah would have to be able to find 2 of every species, which would take much longer than a person can live.

Did he save plants? I havn't heard much on that, but if there was such a flood that covered the mountains then many of the delicate species of plants we have today would have become extinct.

The country of India has a legend that several thousand years ago a man named Manau (not sure of the spelling but pronounced man-new) loaded seeds etc. on a large boat in that region, because of a great flood,and landed in the Mountains.
Some 25 miles off shore three cities the size of Manhatten have been discovered underwater. Scientist believe the flooding was caused when the sea rose appx: 40 feet due to glacier melting claiming much of the coast of India.
The discovery of these cities has made some scientist carry the date of civilized man to an earlier period of time than previously thought.
I thought the similarities in the legend of Manau and the account of Noah interesting.

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