To ignore chemtrails is to pretend that the DOD would never test its chemical and biological weapons on unsuspecting people. Most people living on earth want only life, liberty, peace and the pursuit of happiness.

In grisly contrast, America's military-industrial complex harbors an introverted and pathological fixation with war games and death technology. In its inexorable quest for absolute power -- that evolutionary state of decay warned about by President Eisenhower so many years ago -- the complex has unleashed a terrifying array of secretive and dangerous experiments. These include weather modification, earthquake induction and numerous chemical-biological tests on unwitting subjects.

Please read this insanity and comment on what you think. I think it's rather true, sickeningly enough, but the part about the Clinton Administration being behind the Oklahoma City bombing was a new one on me. (???)

Anyway, this is just a snip of what the links says...

During the summer of 1994, U.S. military aircraft began dropping a gel substance on the tiny town of Oakville near the Pacific coast. Everybody in town came down with flu and pneumonia-like symptoms. Some people were hospitalized and remained ill for months. Pets and barnyard animals died.


Chemtrails. Are they real?


CLICK HERE > > > > http://proliberty.com/observer/20010716.htm

Quick... everybody run for the hills!!!

Oh wait, they're gonna spray the hills first.

Nevermind. We're all doomed. DOOMED, I tell ya!!

:(
SMW

...America's military-industrial complex harbors an introverted and pathological fixation with ...death technology.
STOP THE PRESSES!

Nice. No doubt youll all sleep better tonite knowing your defended so well.

Nice. No doubt youll all sleep better tonite knowing your defended so well.
you're sleeping under the same umbrella.

More than likely-yeah.

Nice. No doubt youll all sleep better tonite knowing your defended so well.

Yeah, we all saw how well we are "defense" works on 9-11.

Chemtrails. Are they real?


No. :)

Ireland has the misfortune of lying under the flight path between Northern Europe and North Eastern United States, everyday I can see at least a hundred airliners either going to or coming from America, Lough Neagh being the last visual reference guide used by pilots heading out over the Atlantic.

No doubt some of those airliners are the military variety, god knows what they are carrying, tho, at present, we happen to be in line with some scrap metal that the USAF lost control of, maybe a washing machine size chunk could come down, or better still, hit an ailiner, and it will come down.

Infact Ive a good mind to write to Ambassador Foley and ask him what the fucks going on.

Ya aint safe anywhere these days.

Please read this insanity and comment on what you think. I think it's rather true, sickeningly enough, but the part about the Clinton Administration being behind the Oklahoma City bombing was a new one on me. (???)


Chemtrails. Are they real?



Just because it's on the internet that doesn't make it true, Scumbelina.

Congressional hearings of 1975, 1977 and 1994 confirm in nauseating detail that our illustrious Department of Death has used the American population as hapless guinea pigs since WWII.

So these congressional hearings are FALSE and there was no such confirmation?

Rutgers professor Leonard Cole collected from U.S. military records a horrifying list of biological and chemical agents furtively tested on American and Canadian civilian populations.

Say what? The list of biological and chemical agents that were tested on the U.S. and Canada was MADE UP and was certainly NOT collected from the U.S. military records? Such a blatant lie that is.

In 1953, an odious series of 36 tests was conducted on citizens of Winnipeg in Canada. Our government lied to the Winnipeg mayor, assuring him that the tests were non-toxic and defense-necessary. The actual purpose of these CIA-designed tests was to see how large a percentage of the population could be given chemical-induced cancer.

Gosh, another lie? WHY, WHY, WHY???

In 1994, after Dr. Cole testified before the Senate, the Rockefeller Committee issued a report confirming 50 years of secret government testing on both civilians and military personnel.

What, more lies? There was no report confirming ‘50 years of secret government testing on both civilians and military personnel’? This stuff is all fairy tales?

Perversely -- while all of this lip service was going on -- the military was simultaneously conducting a series of hideous biological warfare tests on the people of Oakville, Washington.

Hogwash! :rolleyes:

The police chief was patrolling the town one morning at 3 a.m. when a deluge of sticky stuff coated the windshield of his patrol car. He cleaned the goo with rubber gloves but just breathing it made him deathly ill. By afternoon he had major trouble breathing.

Wow, the Police Chief had nothing better to do than to make up horror stories. It all makes sense now.

Again in 1997, in Southern Idaho near the town of Caldwell, seven healthy people died in their sleep when their lungs collapsed. All were in perfect health. An article in the Arizona Republic noted that people had suspicions that officials might be covering something up.

Those suspicious bastards! I’m glad seven of them died or they’d go spread their crazy stories all over the place. Sheesh!

Listen, I’m not stupid enough to believe everything on the internet is true, but this stuff – IF MADE UP – should get an award for the Most Convincing Fake Article Ever.

They should also get an award for somehow managing to load thousands upon thousands of flights without any of the airlines employees noticing or, even better, them noticing but not squealing.

They should also get an award for somehow managing to load thousands upon thousands of flights without any of the airlines employees noticing or, even better, them noticing but not squealing.

Airline employees?? Do these sould like these are commercial airplanes to you?

During the summer of 1994, U.S. military aircraft began dropping a gel substance on the tiny town of Oakville near the Pacific coast.

Also in 1997, rancher William Wallace was plowing his fields near Kettle Falls Washington when a U.S. Navy Intruder swooped down and sprayed him with a fine mist.

Two days later, a turbo prop aircraft dived over his house spraying something that made him and his family ill again.

Still today the military continues with open air testing in populated areas across the United States

Medical journalist Ermina Cassani has investigated nation-wide reports of such biological waste being dropped on neighborhoods from low-flying planes.

During numerous chemtrail spray episodes, the small town of Sallisaw in Eastern Oklahoma area was saturated with a web-like material in which lab techs discovered an unusually large enterobacteria.

Maybe it does to you, but not to me.

If this is all bullpuckey, then why is this new, mysterious 'disease' cropping up all over the place? And it's happening a lot in the Dallas area, Miss SmartMouthFiberHead!

The first link I posted talked about fibers being sprayed, so take a look at this whackiness...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=2246987&page=1


Travis Wilson is getting worse. Fibers are coming out of his fingers, his neck, even his mouth.

From his internet journal...

"Hey kids! From the same people who brought you the Gulf War Syndrome, now present to you Morgellons, a new biological warfare study that our government has launched on our own people!" he writes. "Have fun with it! Just don't go and commit suicide, junior, that'll screw up their neat and tidy data."

Travis is no longer alive.

"The CDC won't look into it until they hear from local or state public health officials, and they won't look into it until they hear from physicians. Well, the physicians won't report the problem until the CDC gives them a directive on it. It's just insane."

There is much 'covering up' being done cuz the CDC most likely knows what causes Morgellons.

Our fukked up Gov't!!!

Ya, I know. I'm a paranoid lunatic who is actually believing this nightmare, but I'll bet ya I'm right.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14251131/

There are so many more stories but I havn't read them yet.

AS YOU WERE, NAY-SAYERS!

And watch out for fibers coming out of yer skin ;)

I read about Morgellons... I'm not sure I buy any government conspiracy about it, but I think it's despicable that most doctors are just ignoring it or dismissing it as a psychological condition.

Everybody panic!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Tinfoilhat.jpg

There is much 'covering up' being done cuz the CDC most likely knows what causes Morgellons.

Our fukked up Gov't!!!

Ya, I know. I'm a paranoid lunatic who is actually believing this nightmare, but I'll bet ya I'm right.
There are so many more stories but I havn't read them yet.
AS YOU WERE, NAY-SAYERS!
And watch out for fibers coming out of yer skin ;)

Yea it's not like the our government (http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts)has secret agendas that might be contrary to the interests or the health of the people.
There are plenty of books (http://www.mapcruzin.com/rev_government_secret_tests.htm) and other documentation to make you think twice.:rolleyes:
Conspiracy nuts or not..from the X files.. "the truth is out there.."

Aha-now I know why Texans wear those cowboy hats.

If this is all bullpuckey, then why is this new, mysterious 'disease' cropping up all over the place? And it's happening a lot in the Dallas area, Miss SmartMouthFiberHead!

The first link I posted talked about fibers being sprayed, so take a look at this whackiness...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=2246987&page=1


Travis Wilson is getting worse. Fibers are coming out of his fingers, his neck, even his mouth.

From his internet journal...

"Hey kids! From the same people who brought you the Gulf War Syndrome, now present to you Morgellons, a new biological warfare study that our government has launched on our own people!" he writes. "Have fun with it! Just don't go and commit suicide, junior, that'll screw up their neat and tidy data."

Travis is no longer alive.

"The CDC won't look into it until they hear from local or state public health officials, and they won't look into it until they hear from physicians. Well, the physicians won't report the problem until the CDC gives them a directive on it. It's just insane."

There is much 'covering up' being done cuz the CDC most likely knows what causes Morgellons.

Our fukked up Gov't!!!

Ya, I know. I'm a paranoid lunatic who is actually believing this nightmare, but I'll bet ya I'm right.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14251131/

There are so many more stories but I havn't read them yet.

AS YOU WERE, NAY-SAYERS!

And watch out for fibers coming out of yer skin ;)

Um, yeah... I'll watch out for those fibers. One good thing could come out of my breaking out in mohairs though... might give scientists ONE documented case to study! That'd be one more than they've had so far.

If it makes you feel any better, my employer is having a pandemic flu exercise this week where various big wheels will take turns working from home.

OMG, HOLD THE PRESSES... I THINK I JUST BROKE OUT IN A FIBER!!!!

Nevermind, just a stray hair.

Carry on, crusader Scumwad! What catastrophic event should I worry about this week?

:worship:
SMW

Umm, I think the cases exist, there just aren't any scientists willing to study them.

Umm, I think the cases exist, there just aren't any scientists willing to study them.

Uh, yeah Nap. I'm sure that's the case.

:rolleyes:

OMG, HOLD THE PRESSES... I THINK I JUST BROKE OUT IN A FIBER!!!!

Nevermind, just a stray hair.

Carry on, crusader Scumwad! What catastrophic event should I worry about this week?

:worship:
SMW

HAHAHAAA!! That was purdy funny but this is a SERIOUS CONDITION, gosh dang ya. There is a new freaky epedemic on the loose and it's hitting Texas big time so you better watch out for stray hairs, I mean FIBERS!

http://www.morgellonsguide.com/

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2283503

http://www.morgellons.org/

Some people think it's from using Genetically Modified cotton, one couple thinks they got if from handling produce at a Farmer's Market and some think it's from biochemical warfare.

I don't how how people get it but I'm gonna be on the lookout for fibers coming outta my ass, I can tell ya that.

This is the post I wanted you to see... (part of it, anyway)

If this is all bullpuckey, then why is this new, mysterious 'disease' cropping up all over the place? And it's happening a lot in the Dallas area, Miss SmartMouthFiberHead!

The first link I posted talked about fibers being sprayed, so take a look at this whackiness...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall...2246987&page=1


Travis Wilson is getting worse. Fibers are coming out of his fingers, his neck, even his mouth.

From his internet journal...

"Hey kids! From the same people who brought you the Gulf War Syndrome, now present to you Morgellons, a new biological warfare study that our government has launched on our own people!" he writes. "Have fun with it! Just don't go and commit suicide, junior, that'll screw up their neat and tidy data."

Travis is no longer alive.

I read about Morgellons... I'm not sure I buy any government conspiracy about it, but I think it's despicable that most doctors are just ignoring it or dismissing it as a psychological condition.

I agree. So many people have been afraid to talk about it but now, it's finally coming to light and people can discuss it w/out feeling like they're crazy.

At least a few doctors are realizing people aren't making this up and they don't need psychological counseling. This is a real problem, for cryin out loud.

Everybody panic!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Tinfoilhat.jpg


Borg, I think you'll look better in this hat...

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4562/funnyhatmy3.jpg



Plus it keeps fibers away :p

Yea it's not like the our government (http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts)has secret agendas that might be contrary to the interests or the health of the people.
There are plenty of books (http://www.mapcruzin.com/rev_government_secret_tests.htm) and other documentation to make you think twice.:rolleyes:
Conspiracy nuts or not..from the X files.. "the truth is out there.."

Yer darn tootin!

Interesting testimonial from the abc site.

I have Morgellon's. Lets start where it began: a lifetime of raising cactus plants. The needles burrowed into my skin for many years. Since 4years ago when I transplanted a "pancake" cactus the tiny needles burowed in and began to purge. I was paralixed in parts of my body. MRI's showed it as a velous anganoma. WRONG! It was all those needles traveling in my blood streem into my brain and have been working out my scalp. The pain is emmense and I am hoping they are finally almost done purging. Without antibotics and painmeds from my dr. I would have died.YES, THEY ARE CAUSED BY CACTUS Needles. I have contacted the CDC but they have not contacted me. I approched this from te beginning of the needles, not the end result of Morgellon's syndrome. I hope you can help spread the word. The most cses are in CA, Florida, Texas, all the cacti states. I live in IN. Please contact me by email at adnil cocker@yahoo.com
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saffernellie Jan-17

Personally, I've never been too fond of cacti, so hopefully I'll be spared this dreadful condition.

Interesting testimonial from the abc site.

I have Morgellon's. Lets start where it began: a lifetime of raising cactus plants. The needles burrowed into my skin for many years. Since 4years ago when I transplanted a "pancake" cactus the tiny needles burowed in and began to purge. I was paralixed in parts of my body. MRI's showed it as a velous anganoma. WRONG! It was all those needles traveling in my blood streem into my brain and have been working out my scalp. The pain is emmense and I am hoping they are finally almost done purging. Without antibotics and painmeds from my dr. I would have died.YES, THEY ARE CAUSED BY CACTUS Needles. I have contacted the CDC but they have not contacted me. I approched this from te beginning of the needles, not the end result of Morgellon's syndrome. I hope you can help spread the word. The most cses are in CA, Florida, Texas, all the cacti states. I live in IN. Please contact me by email at adnil cocker@yahoo.com
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saffernellie Jan-17

Personally, I've never been too fond of cacti, so hopefully I'll be spared this dreadful condition.

I haven't read that and I don't think it's from Cacti needles. No freaking way.

But if it IS fron cacti needles :rolleyes: I'm gonna send you a nice gift in the mail right away. It only needs to be watered twice monthly and blooms purdy flowers too.

Yer welcome ;)

An interesting article about Morgellon's...

http://www.morgellons.org/suny.htm

(snippet)

Conclusions: Our preliminary results indicate that Agrobacterium may be involved in the etiology and/or progression of Morgellons disease. If these results are confirmed, it would be the first example of a plant-infecting bacterium playing a role in human disease.

Here's a pettion from Morgellon's sufferers, pleading the CDC to take action. There are close to 2,000 signatures so far.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Morgellons_Congress_CDC/signatures-1.html



This isn't a hoax, I hate to tell ya.

I don't how how people get it but I'm gonna be on the lookout for fibers coming outta my ass, I can tell ya that.
While you're at it, you should find out exactly where down there your posts come from.

Borg, I think you'll look better in this hat...

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4562/funnyhatmy3.jpg



Plus it keeps fibers away :p
the only fibers that's going to keep away is those worn by wimmens. <insert joke about him having no trouble with that now>.

While you're at it, you should find out exactly where down there your posts come from.

Your brilliance is astounding :rolleyes:

the only fibers that's going to keep away is those worn by wimmens. <insert joke about him having no trouble with that now>.

I don't get the joke

(?????)

MYCOPLASMA

The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases

Several strains of mycoplasma have been "engineered" to become more dangerous. They are now being blamed for AIDS, cancer, CFS, MS, CJD and other neurosystemic diseases.

http://www.whale.to/m/scott7.html

I don't get the joke

(?????)
it's chick repellent.

The U.S. Government's Long History of Experimenting
On Military Troops & Their Own Documents That Prove It

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

it's chick repellent.

O, I C

:rolleyes:

I dunno about the cactus theory... There are a whole bunch of Morgellons sufferers up here in the D.C. area - I read about them in the Washington Post. There sure aren't too many cacti up here... Also, they say that when they examine the fibers coming out of their skin under a microscope, the fibers are red, blue, or black. Cactus needles don't really come in those colors, right?

The U.S. Government's Long History of Experimenting
On Military Troops & Their Own Documents That Prove It

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/
you should have dug deeper, the Tuskegee experiments and Manhattan Project's injecting plutonium into the brains of retarded wards of the state ring a bell?

any how, when the Feds do that sort of thing, they don't just scatter it to the wind. it doesn't make for good science.

I dunno about the cactus theory... There are a whole bunch of Morgellons sufferers up here in the D.C. area - I read about them in the Washington Post. There sure aren't too many cacti up here... Also, they say that when they examine the fibers coming out of their skin under a microscope, the fibers are red, blue, or black. Cactus needles don't really come in those colors, right?

Nah. those fibers have nothing to do with cactus needles.

Sounds like more and more people are reporting this insanity. Like many say, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

the Tuskegee experiments and Manhattan Project's injecting plutonium into the brains of retarded wards of the state ring a bell?

No, it doesn't. :confused:

when the Feds do that sort of thing, they don't just scatter it to the wind. it doesn't make for good science

GOOD SCIENCE ?? Whaaaat??

Your brilliance is astounding :rolleyes:
So is your sense of humor.

So is your sense of humor.

Actually, I didn't depict any humor in yer post at all. It felt more like a slam and not much more.

Oh well. No big deal.

No, it doesn't. :confused:
look into it (i'm too lazy to dig up links right now)


GOOD SCIENCE ?? Whaaaat??
that is the reason behind experiments:rolleyes:

if the government just wanted to kill ppl, bullets would be cheaper and easier to explain.

Here ya go, Scumbag. Maybe it'll make you feel better that the world is saving up seeds so 500 years from now, everybody will still be able to grow mutated rice & beans!

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/buried-seed-vault-opens-in-arctic/index.html?hp

Maybe it'll make you feel better that the world is saving up seeds so 500 years from now, everybody will still be able to grow mutated rice & beans!

I find it interesting that you would add the word *mutated*, which did not appear anywhere in the article.

Did you read the article? Do you think preserving "mutated" seeds is the focus of the repository? Maybe you think the intent is to "mutate" the seeds at some later date?

Or do you just think the idea of savings seeds is laughable...........??

I find it interesting that you would add the word *mutated*, which did not appear anywhere in the article.

Did you read the article? Do you think preserving "mutated" seeds is the focus of the repository? Maybe you think the intent is to "mutate" the seeds at some later date?

Or do you just think the idea of savings seeds is laughable...........??

Are you not aware ALL SEEDS are genetically altered these days?

I have an old hippy friend and this is his thorn in the side (right up there with vaccinations and pure water!) He lives his life to find natual, unmutated seeds, but alas... there are very few remaining on this earth.

You can do your own homework about the genetically altered seeds if you're so inclined. As soon as mankind figured out they could get twice the yield and more durable vegetation by genetically altering seeds, the availability of natural seed-bearing plants started to disappear. Today it's next to impossible to find anything else.

;)
SMW

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]Are you not aware ALL SEEDS are genetically altered these days?

That is absolutely untrue. Just Google "organic seeds" and a shit-load of sites come up. If any fruit/veggie/seed/ is truly organic, they are NOT genetically altered.
unmutated seeds, but alas... there are very few remaining on this earth.

Oh wait. First you say "ALL SEEDS are genetically altered" but now you say "there are very few remaining on this earth". You just disagreed with what you previously said.

You can do your own homework about the genetically altered seeds if you're so inclined.

I, for one, have been doing that for quite some time.

As soon as mankind figured out they could get twice the yield and more durable vegetation by genetically altering seeds,

But do you realize how unnatural and harmful these seeds are because of what they produce? "You can do your own homework about the genetically altered seeds if you're so inclined."

http://www.cqs.com/50harm.htm


Today it's next to impossible to find anything else.

Again..... contradictions of your opening sentence ;-)

[QUOTE]

That is absolutely untrue. Just Google "organic seeds" and a shit-load of sites come up. If any fruit/veggie/seed/ is truly organic, they are NOT genetically altered.


Oh wait. First you say "ALL SEEDS are genetically altered" but now you say "there are very few remaining on this earth". You just disagreed with what you previously said.



I, for one, have been doing that for quite some time.



But do you realize how unnatural and harmful these seeds are because of what they produce? "You can do your own homework about the genetically altered seeds if you're so inclined."

http://www.cqs.com/50harm.htm




Again..... contradictions of your opening sentence ;-)

Damn, g/f... you're beginning to sound just like some of these other yahoos around here!!

I'm no expert on the subject, but I know from long talks with my friend (whom I consider well-versed) HEIRLOOM seeds, that is, seeds that have NEVER been altered are indeed as rare as hen's teeth. I never said they DON'T EXIST... just that they're extremely hard to find. And here's another thing to consider... say you plant a heirloom seed and grow a fine corn plant. What's to prevent Farmer Frannie's crop of altered seed plants next door from blowing their pollen over to your crop? Far as I know, no chastity belts for corn plants exist.

Organic is NOT the same thing at all. You can grow organic plants from genetically altered seeds... in fact, people do it all the time and pass the resulting food off as '100% organic' when in fact, it was grown from altered seeds.

You'd like my hippie friend, Gene. He distrusts everything, too!

;)
SMW

[QUOTE]Damn, g/f... you're beginning to sound just like some of these other yahoos around here!!

But I AM a Yahoo, remember? And you too! Ah, the good ol' days.

say you plant a heirloom seed and grow a fine corn plant. What's to prevent Farmer Frannie's crop of altered seed plants next door from blowing their pollen over to your crop? Far as I know, no chastity belts for corn plants exist.

That is entirely true and it does happen. I've seen documentarys about that invasive crap and it makes me blood berl.

You can grow organic plants from genetically altered seeds...

I don't think so.

in fact, people do it all the time and pass the resulting food off as '100% organic' when in fact, it was grown from altered seeds.

Lots of people can and have grown bullshit produce and try/tried to pass it off as organic. I know of one farmer who was busted and fined heavily for doing just that at a Farmer's Market in Seal Beach, CA.

Their are very strict rules in the 'Certified Organic' organization but still, some people try to pull it off by lying about what they are growing and selling. (usually, local idiot-farmers)

Anyway, if it is CERTIFED ORGANIC, it better not be from a GM seed!

You'd like my hippie friend, Gene. He distrusts everything, too!

Hook us up! We can be paranoid and hate the world together :cuddle:

Well, at $40 for a pound of seed corn, not many farmers are gonna go the heirloom route... organic or not.

Not sure Gene's heart could take YOU. He had enough trouble dealing with ME. (Can you see me carrying on a torrid affair with a..


um, wait


having a little trouble getting it out...


keep reading, I'm close.


One more deep breath and here it is




TREE HUGGIN LIBERAL?????

I mean, really.

;)
SMW

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]Well, at $40 for a pound of seed corn, not many farmers are gonna go the heirloom route... organic or not.

Not sure Gene's heart could take YOU. He had enough trouble dealing with ME. (Can you see me carrying on a torrid affair with a..

um, wait

having a little trouble getting it out...

keep reading, I'm close.

One more deep breath and here it is

TREE HUGGIN LIBERAL?????

I mean, really.


Holy shit, I dint know you were talkin about yer EX! And how on earth could you have married a HIPPIE, hmmmm? better yet, how could he have married a George Bush ass kisser, HMMMMMMM???

Damn, where's Mary? I needs me a stiff drink...

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]Well, at $40 for a pound of seed corn, not many farmers are gonna go the heirloom route... organic or not.

Not sure Gene's heart could take YOU. He had enough trouble dealing with ME. (Can you see me carrying on a torrid affair with a..

um, wait

having a little trouble getting it out...

keep reading, I'm close.

One more deep breath and here it is

TREE HUGGIN LIBERAL?????

I mean, really.


Holy shit, I dint know you were talkin about yer EX! And how on earth could you have married a HIPPIE, hmmmm? better yet, how could he have married a George Bush ass kisser, HMMMMMMM???

Damn, where's Mary? I needs me a stiff drink...

WHOAAAAAAAAAA there, Nellie! Nobody said anything about MARRYING him! I said torrid affair! That's a whole bunch different!! And it didn't last too long at that. He lives about 40 miles from me and besides that, the fact that he was a raving liberal lunatic/retired college professor/vegan who ate squash dressing for Thanksgiving and had a pet duck... got on my nerves pretty quick and precluded a long-lived fling.

*breaks into song*

Memories,
Like the corners of my mind
Misty water-colored memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures,
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were
Can it be that it was all so simple then?
Or has time re-written every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again
Tell me, would we? could we?
Memries, may be beautiful and yet
Whats too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget
So its the laughter
We will remember
Whenever we remember...
The way we were...
The way we were...

[QUOTE]WHOAAAAAAAAAA there, Nellie! Nobody said anything about MARRYING him!

Oh, I thot you was talking about yer Ex hubby. Oopsie!

I said torrid affair! That's a whole bunch different!!

And probably a whole lot better ;-)

he was a raving liberal lunatic/retired college professor/vegan who ate squash dressing for Thanksgiving and had a pet duck...

I think I LUVS him :cuddle:

*breaks into song*

Please don't.

This video is very freaky, if not completly frightening. It's a video of a man with Morgellons. He shaved his head two days before shooting this. He's under a black light and you can see the 'critters' under his skin. I've previously read that they are more visible under a black light and tend to glow. After seeing this video, there are absoluely right.

They seem to communicate with each other and possibly bind together making a much longer fiber. Forget about the chemtrail stuff and the gov't trying to deliberately poison us, forget all that. I've been studying this nightmare, day and night, and from what seems to be the possible cause, is an agent made by Monsanto to be used in agriculture.

It's a man-made virus that kills parasites. It's an experiment that want wrong.

TERRIBLY WRONG.

Thousands of people are suffereing from this nightmare yet they are being told they are mental cases and to forget about it, it's all in their heads.

Billy Koch and his family suffers from this disease. He's the former Oakland A's pitcher who had to give up his career due to this ilness.

I'll post a link that takes you to the video and please watch all of it (only 2 minutes or so) and tell me if you believe it is real or a hoax. If it's a hoax, explain HOW he made this video to look like it did.

Non-believers, beware! This is freaky stuff!


http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivanhole/?action=view&current=fuzznoirfin.flv

Isn't ANYONE gonna view the video I just posted above?

Hello? Hello? *taps microphone* is this thing on?

H E L L O ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

the US military focused on ways to kill people? Wow - shocking - why can't our military be like those other militaries who's focus is on ways to best give enemies a boquet of flowers.

US military dropping gel like substances on towns & everybody getting sick? Ha - that's hilarious. Some people have quite the imagination.

the US military focused on ways to kill people? Wow - shocking - why can't our military be like those other militaries who's focus is on ways to best give enemies a boquet of flowers.

US military dropping gel like substances on towns & everybody getting sick? Ha - that's hilarious. Some people have quite the imagination.

Don't be such a fucking idiot. I am NOT talking about the link from several weeks ago. I'm talking about the VIDEO I posted just 30 minutes ago so pull yer head out and pay attention, ok?

I'm talking about THIS post... And view the god damned video for once.

This video is very freaky, if not completly frightening. It's a video of a man with Morgellons. He shaved his head two days before shooting this. He's under a black light and you can see the 'critters' under his skin. I've previously read that they are more visible under a black light and tend to glow. After seeing this video, there are absoluely right.

They seem to communicate with each other and possibly bind together making a much longer fiber. Forget about the chemtrail stuff and the gov't trying to deliberately poison us, forget all that. I've been studying this nightmare, day and night, and from what seems to be the possible cause, is an agent made by Monsanto to be used in agriculture.

It's a man-made virus that kills parasites. It's an experiment that want wrong.

TERRIBLY WRONG.

Thousands of people are suffereing from this nightmare yet they are being told they are mental cases and to forget about it, it's all in their heads.

Billy Koch and his family suffers from this disease. He's the former Oakland A's pitcher who had to give up his career due to this ilness.

I'll post a link that takes you to the video and please watch all of it (only 2 minutes or so) and tell me if you believe it is real or a hoax. If it's a hoax, explain HOW he made this video to look like it did.

Non-believers, beware! This is freaky stuff!


http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/i...uzznoirfin.flv

The link goes nowhere, and I am not about to register for photobucket just to see some crank video.

It seems the first video works, though.

I don't believe a word of it.

It seems the first video works, though.

I don't believe a word of it.

ya, it works but I guess when I copied it over, it didn't work that time.

So what makes you not believe it? Did you hear what he's saying and read what he posted below the video? If this fake, how did he do it? I'd love to believe this is fake but as it stands, it seems too real!

http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivanhole/?action=view&current=fuzznoirfin.flv

Well, it looks too much like a hoax to me. It's easy to make up stories. I bet if I shaved my head, after two days it'd look exactly the same under a blacklight. Our skin picks up lint and stuff from the air. If he had spent those two days in a clean room, like, a real clean room, the kind they assemble electronics, in. I'd be more inclined to believe him. But this is just some kid making a video of lint under a blacklight, putting in some bullshit story to propagate the idea that it's a real medical condition. We don't have anything to go on, other than some pictures of lint.

There's no medical analysis of the fibers in his scalp, no proof as to what conditions he spent his two days in, nothing. I can't believe anybody could take that vid seriously.

Okay, let's say his story is real. Wouldn't the fibers just keep growing out of his skin? Wouldn't they eventually cover his body and become visible? Why doesn't he just wait for that? Then they'll have to listen to him. If he grew that many fibers out of his skin in two days, it shouldn't take longer than a month for them to become visible. But since I think it's lint, all we'll find in a month, will probably be a shitload of lint. Which is exactly what I think that link amounts to.

I haven't watched the video, but I do take Morgellon's seriously. Most doctors won't even consider it, but I've read the interviews with the doctors who have taken the time to study it. They certainly take it seriously enough. However, I do disagree with Scummy's apparent belief that there is a definite cause. The article I read in the Washington Post Magazine isn't online, but here's an online question/answer session (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/01/17/DI2008011701435.html) with the author of the article, a dermatology professor, and a board member of the Morgellon's Research Foundation.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's just unscrupulous doctors preying on the psychologically weak. I think all those doctors taking it seriously, are simply taking patients money, doing all kinds of impressive looking tests and junk, and making up explanations.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's just unscrupulous doctors preying on the psychologically weak. I think all those doctors taking it seriously, are simply taking patients money, doing all kinds of impressive looking tests and junk, and making up explanations.
I don't believe that. I don't think that every single case is actually a new, unknown disease, but I think that some of them are. How do you explain the fibers that didn't match anything in the extensive police/FBI databases? How about the fibers that didn't burn at over 1000 degrees? It's not just clothing fibers that get on people's skin and then get taken advantage of by "unscrupulous doctors". Most of these patients have basically been told by the doctors who take it seriously that there's nothing they can do - so unless they're charging money for nothing now, I'm pretty sure it's not a matter of doctors making up a disease and using it to tell people with psychological problems that they need to get a whole bunch of stuff done to them.

You should read that article you posted a little more carefully. The dermatology professor seems to be someone with his head screwed on straight. He answers all of your questions and the ones posed by Scumbelina.

You should read that article you posted a little more carefully. The dermatology professor seems to be someone with his head screwed on straight. He answers all of your questions and the ones posed by Scumbelina.
I did read it. It wasn't an article, it was an online chat. The actual article from the magazine, which is not online, contained interviews with several Morgellon's patients and their doctors - some of whom took it seriously and some of whom didn't.

And no, he did not answer my questions. He disregards the evidence that the fibers could possibly be something other than textile fibers - by saying "they are textile fibers". Wow, that sure was debunked thoroughly!

I find it extremely closed minded for anyone to completely dismiss this as an issue, just as I find it closed minded for anyone to say "Morgellons is definitely a new disease caused by agricultural chemicals." The fact is that there hasn't been enough study to make these conclusions either way. I thought you'd be smart enough to realize that.

I don't think every single new condition warrants the cause of a foundation dedicated to bringing it to the public awareness. In fact, I find that the professor's attempts to get a clear picture of what Morgellons is, with the online diagnostic tool, by putting in his son's eczema symptoms, quite telling. I can recognize a marketing ploy when I see it, and I didn't find his answers to be disregarding of evidence at all. I think he's right when he says that the evidence that is accepted by the general medical community is much different from the evidence accepted by the MRF. The whole thing is entirely too vague, and smacks of illegitimacy. This foundation will have every single person in the US examining their bedsheets for crap, shaving their heads, and creating psychological itching, or blaming normal itching on Morgellons. The absolute incompetency the MRF has in defining the disease adequately enough to even study it properly is tantamount to fearmongering.

My scalp itches right now, maybe I should shave my head and start looking for lint!

My scalp itches right now, maybe I should shave my head and start looking for lint!
:rolleyes: Yeah, because I totally said you should do that.

Maybe they wouldn't need a foundation if people had ever been willing to even take a look at it seriously. At least now the CDC has finally agreed to undertake a study of it. (Not that you care, since you obviously think they shouldn't be wasting money on a "marketing ploy".)

Of course the CDC said they're going to take a look, they've been inundated with requests from hypochondriacs and their enablers. It's gotten to the point where they just can't ignore it.

The reason I'm skeptical of the MRF is that if Morgellons suddenly is found to be non-existent, all those people suddenly lose their jobs. Therefore it's in their best interest to find something, anything, to let them continue the investigations. They're going to create all kinds of fuss and all kinds of holler and get people to register on their website. Basically, all you have to do to be a Morgellons sufferer according to the MRF is to itch, and have some kind of rash. That's it. Mild eczema will trigger it. This proves to me that the MRF is not interested in real science. Can you understand what a tool this is to prey on the weak? All of a sudden, hypochondriacs everywhere will have a tool to go to their doctors and complain of skin lint. When the doctors rightly shoo them out of the office, they can claim that they're not taking them seriously, sending the signal to noise ratio of possibly legitimate cases and whackos into the weeds, but forcing the hand of real, scientific outfits to debunk nonsense. It's gross incompetence, the kind of error that a real medical institution would never do. Online diagnostic tools? What kind of science is that? It's pure, bogus marketing.

I obviously don't know what causes this and no one really seems to. I was just speculating a guess from what I read, that it MAY be caused by a new agricultural strain.

There is no concrete proof as to what is causing this but there is substantial proof that SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG.

This is the most reputable site I've found thus far. There are lots of pics, videos, and much information about Morgellons. And he talks about the debunkers as well. Morgellonswatch is the worst. They apparently like to pray on innocent sufferers and call them names, saying they are crazy etc. It's an outrage and makes me very angry but this man puts them in their places.

http://morgellonsusa.com/morgellonsusa.html

Well, it looks too much like a hoax to me. It's easy to make up stories. I bet if I shaved my head, after two days it'd look exactly the same under a blacklight. Our skin picks up lint and stuff from the air. If he had spent those two days in a clean room, like, a real clean room, the kind they assemble electronics, in. I'd be more inclined to believe him. But this is just some kid making a video of lint under a blacklight, putting in some bullshit story to propagate the idea that it's a real medical condition. We don't have anything to go on, other than some pictures of lint.

That isn't "lint". Does lint imbed itself below the skin surface and move? Does lint grow? Does lint make you itch so baldy that you would take a knife and try to cut it out of your body like others have done?

Get fucking serious.

Holy shit. This is unbelievable.

Holy shit. This is unbelievable.

I honestly hope you are saying that in a good way, meaning you are starting to take this stuff seriously, and not refering to me and DF's ongoing comments about the reality of this madness, saying THAT is what's unbelievable.

I was wrong. It wasn't Monsanto, it's Intralytix Corporation. This could be the cause of this horror.


http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm

FDA Approved New Virus Sprays For Foods - August, 2006.

The FDA approved nano-virile protein bacteria eaters that work on deli meats and other ready-to-eat foods in August, 2006. Food manufacturers started spraying this new nantechnology viruses on meats and vegetables in August 2006.

Intralytix Corporation, based in Baltimore, first petitioned the FDA in 2002 to allow the viruses to be used as an additive. It has since licensed the product to a multinational company, which is marketing the virus spray worldwide.
The viruses are known as bacteriophages, viruses that kill bacteria, or phages for short. Phages have been around a long time, living as parasites inside many bacteria.

Intralytix uses biotechnology to grow viral phages in a culture with Listeria, in theory teaching the viruses to recognize the bacteria. The FDA-approved cocktail contains six different viruses intended to attack one strain of bacteria.

This mixture is then sprayed on food. If Listeria is present in the food, the bacteria will ingest the viruses. This results in massive viral replication inside the bacteria, until such point as the bacteria simply bursts. This battle results in significant production of bacterial poisons called “endotoxins”, as the bacteria tries to defend itself. When the bacteria burst, these endotoxins are released. These, along with the victorious live viruses, will now be on the food that will be eaten, ingested into the human body.

The stated goal of the new FDA-approved viruses is to kill a rare bacterium known as Listeria monocytogenes. This bacterium is killed by cooking; however, it poses a problem in meats that are cooked during processing and not cooked again prior to consumption, so it can readily infect foods such as deli meats.

The FDA and Intralytix would like us to believe that these viruses will only attack the specified bacteria they are intended to kill and will be harmless to humans. Wrong ! There is no way they can possibly guarantee such safety. Viruses such as HIV recognize human cells such a T-Cells and Natural Killer cells. The HIV virus attacks and destroys these human cells. Therfore, this new spray-on virus can potentially recognize normal bacterial cells in the human digestive tract and may be able to adapt to infect one or more of these friendly bacteria in the human colon.

The human immune system reacts directly to viral phages. Someone who eats a lot of processed deli meat is certain to envoke an immune reaction to the viruses. What will this reaction be? Allergy? Asthma? Autoimmunity? Morgellons? Cancer? How can the FDA approve a food additive that it knows can induce a variety of human immune responses? Phages, such as this viral spray are equipped to disrupt normal immunity that are being considered for use as part of organ transplant medicine. What are these people thinking inventing these things?



Gosh, I'm hungry. I think I'm gonna go to the nearest Deli for a huge samich.

NOT!

I was wrong. It wasn't Monsanto, it's Intralytix Corporation. This could be the cause of this horror.


http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm

FDA Approved New Virus Sprays For Foods - August, 2006.

The FDA approved nano-virile protein bacteria eaters that work on deli meats and other ready-to-eat foods in August, 2006. Food manufacturers started spraying this new nantechnology viruses on meats and vegetables in August 2006.

Intralytix Corporation, based in Baltimore, first petitioned the FDA in 2002 to allow the viruses to be used as an additive. It has since licensed the product to a multinational company, which is marketing the virus spray worldwide.
The viruses are known as bacteriophages, viruses that kill bacteria, or phages for short. Phages have been around a long time, living as parasites inside many bacteria.

Intralytix uses biotechnology to grow viral phages in a culture with Listeria, in theory teaching the viruses to recognize the bacteria. The FDA-approved cocktail contains six different viruses intended to attack one strain of bacteria.

This mixture is then sprayed on food. If Listeria is present in the food, the bacteria will ingest the viruses. This results in massive viral replication inside the bacteria, until such point as the bacteria simply bursts. This battle results in significant production of bacterial poisons called “endotoxins”, as the bacteria tries to defend itself. When the bacteria burst, these endotoxins are released. These, along with the victorious live viruses, will now be on the food that will be eaten, ingested into the human body.

The stated goal of the new FDA-approved viruses is to kill a rare bacterium known as Listeria monocytogenes. This bacterium is killed by cooking; however, it poses a problem in meats that are cooked during processing and not cooked again prior to consumption, so it can readily infect foods such as deli meats.

The FDA and Intralytix would like us to believe that these viruses will only attack the specified bacteria they are intended to kill and will be harmless to humans. Wrong ! There is no way they can possibly guarantee such safety. Viruses such as HIV recognize human cells such a T-Cells and Natural Killer cells. The HIV virus attacks and destroys these human cells. Therfore, this new spray-on virus can potentially recognize normal bacterial cells in the human digestive tract and may be able to adapt to infect one or more of these friendly bacteria in the human colon.

The human immune system reacts directly to viral phages. Someone who eats a lot of processed deli meat is certain to envoke an immune reaction to the viruses. What will this reaction be? Allergy? Asthma? Autoimmunity? Morgellons? Cancer? How can the FDA approve a food additive that it knows can induce a variety of human immune responses? Phages, such as this viral spray are equipped to disrupt normal immunity that are being considered for use as part of organ transplant medicine. What are these people thinking inventing these things?



Gosh, I'm hungry. I think I'm gonna go to the nearest Deli for a huge samich.

NOT!
You do know why bacteriophages are called bacteriophages, yes? Because they infect bacteria, not human cells.

*sigh* I'm not dignifying this thread with another response. If it's real, the CDC will figure it out. But I am not going to attempt to discuss any larger the very likely outcome that this is just yet another health care scare foisted upon the public and the medical community at large, or the millions of dollars wasted by the public on unscientific claims.

I don't need to convince you two of anything, the greater scientific community will do so, as everything about Morgellons changes every six months in a desperate attempt to remain relevant as a real condition. The poor sufferers will continue to legitimize the illness and refuse the real treatment for the psychological conditions they face.

Laughably unprofessional websites will continue to display horrific pictures of dandruff and lint while properly skeptical rationale is dismissed for being mean.

You do know why bacteriophages are called bacteriophages, yes? Because they infect bacteria, not human cells.

Like Dig Daddio's bacteria Predates even the
first Living thing.The Firstest thingy pooh on the planet was
Bacteria.Proilly Green or Greenish Brown Like Scummy Pooh's Hair
and all.But don't fret.
Bacteria can also do good.Like Orange fungus and the like.
I wonder if Bacteria knows how to multiply w/o gettin a
hard on.?

Nappy, all I'm saying is that I think the smartest thing to do is keep an open mind, and not conclude that it is or is not real until the scientific research shows us. Apparently I'm "wrong", but I still think it's the most logical approach.

But ya know, maybe Morgellons DID come from Chemtrails afterall. Could it possibly be? :confused:

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Nappy, all I'm saying is that I think the smartest thing to do is keep an open mind, and not conclude that it is or is not real until the scientific research shows us.
The scientific research has showed it.

"A majority of health professionals, including most dermatologists, regard Morgellons as a manifestation of other known medical conditions, including delusional parasitosis.[2][3] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

The scientific research has showed it.

"A majority of health professionals, including most dermatologists, regard Morgellons as a manifestation of other known medical conditions, including delusional parasitosis.[2][3] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

BFD. The truly delusional onses are the ones who refuse to believe it but guess what?

That will change in the not too distant future. Keep your ears and eyes open! I think in the not too distant future, it will be all over the news and newspapers as not being a 'delusion', but the real deal.

Do you believe the guy with it imbedded in his head and wrists and only shows up under a black light is delusional? Oh ya, it's only lint. I forgot. LMAO at that!

http://morgellonsusa.com/morgellonsusa.html


At least look at the website, for cryin out loud. Yes, it's true that most doctors dismiss this as DOP (Delusions Of Parasitosis) but does that mean they are right??

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!

You guys make me laugh.

And itch!

BFD. The truly delusional onses are the ones who refuse to believe it but guess what?

That will change in the not too distant future. Keep your ears and eyes open! I think in the not too distant future, it will be all over the news and newspapers as not being a 'delusion', but the real deal.

Do you believe the guy with it imbedded in his head and wrists and only shows up under a black light is delusional? Oh ya, it's only lint. I forgot. LMAO at that!

http://morgellonsusa.com/morgellonsusa.html


At least look at the website, for cryin out loud. Yes, it's true that most doctors dismiss this as DOP (Delusions Of Parasitosis) but does that mean they are right??

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!

You guys make me laugh.

And itch!
I'm not going to look at a website that hideous, unprofessional, and obviously sensationalistic. The only "evidence" of this disease you have managed to produce is a bunch of hack-ish looking, conspiracy theory websites. I mean, come on, the government is using airplanes to give people this disease? Give me a break.

The scientific research has showed it.

"A majority of health professionals, including most dermatologists, regard Morgellons as a manifestation of other known medical conditions, including delusional parasitosis.[2][3] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons
That really doesn't sound like the results of an actual scientific study to me. And if it has already been "proven" like you say, why is the CDC doing a million dollar study on it now?