Are you channeling FT? :p

Young people are spending less time watching television.

Young people are spending less time watching television.
I agree. I hardly watch it at all... Just when something I like is on (Law & Order, Jeopardy, etc.) In general the people I know don't really watch tv... They spend all their time on the computer like I do.

No, I do not think people are born as either conservative or liberal. Do you?

No, I don't. But it sounded like you believed that because you seem think YOU will always be a 'liberal.' It's the ONLY way, the RIGHT way and there's no room for question... amen! I'd be relieved if you at least considered the point that you might not always feel the same way. I swing from Conservative to Liberal opinions on various subjects... especially as I get older. I have no doubt you will, too.

If you live on the West and East coast, College is hardly your first "exposure" to liberal attitudes. And if I'm not mistaken, most of the states on the West and East coast are more populated than the states in Middle America.

Plus, the big cities in Middle America tend to be liberal, and are also the most heavily populated areas in those states. So no, it is not most people's first “exposure” to liberal attitudes.

Furthermore, if 90% of instructors are liberal that says something very good about liberalism. College professors have to be up-to-date on current information, are challenged by colleagues, and put under a very large microscope. Plus, they are educated and many are experts in their field. So if we have experts from all different aspects of academia (math, English, science, art etc.) who all believe in liberal ideas, I'd say that's a pretty good indication that liberal view-points are far more researched and supported with fact.

I wasn't really speaking geographically. Most young people are mainly influenced by their parent's beliefs until they move away from home. If they have 'liberal' parents, of course they're exposed to the concept... regardless of where they live. But if they don't, chances are, their first major exposure to liberal attitudes is in college.

And don't get me wrong. I'm not BASHING liberals... or educators in general. Certain professions are made up primarily of liberals... environmental engineers, professors, massage therapists, fancy chicken breeders, Democratic senators, etc. Of course you're going to be influenced by them if you spend every day of your life with them. That's only natural. But surely you agree that when it comes to college... it's a PHASE. You won't be in college all your life. You may someday find yourself surrounded by *gasp* conservatives! You can still climb on soapboxes to save the world, but that kinda stuff becomes less and less important once you start facing the 9-5 world. Fact of life, sweetie.



Conservatives also have another method of trying to discredit liberalism -- without actually having to factually discredit it. But who can blame them when the facts and academic world doesn't support their viewpoints?

Anyway, they say you become "conservative" as you get older, as to try and discredit liberalism as another “fad” and “phase” you have with being young.

Well that may be true with your ACTIONS as you age, but not with your BELIEFS. Conservatives tend to confuse the two. For instance, you can be Pro-Choice (IE: your attitude/mentality), but would never actually get an abortion (IE: your personal actions).

So yes, our actions change as we get older. For instance, you don’t party as much, or take as many risks, and you may become more religious and settle down in your home. But your beliefs on political issues don’t change.

The bottom line is that the mentality stays, the actions don’t. BTW, I know plenty of middle aged and older people who are for raising taxes. And they’ve worked for decades, have a mortgage, and bills to pay.

And sure, there are more young people who align themselves with the Democratic party. But there are more registered Democrats than Republicans TOTAL. Meaning both parties probably have the same amount of middle-aged and senior citizens who are registered with them, it just so happens Republicans don’t have the youth base the Democrats have.

No, darlin... the bottom line here is that I'm not attempting to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong or Consvs are good and Libs are bad. All I'm saying is this...

You and Borg (to name names) don't know jack sh*t about life, but that doesn't even slow you down from spouting off your 'opinions' like they're carved in stone FACTS. I really don't mind listening to what you think about the world... in fact, I find it interesting. But PLEASE don't try to convince me or anybody else here that you understand how things work better than we do because you're 'with it' and we're not. Admittedly, Borg is more guilty than you are, but that might just be because he hangs around here more than you do. I've seen you do your share of playing Mr. Know-it-all, too.

Trust me, sweetcheeks, none of us has all the answers. The older we get, the more we realize that fact... but that doesn't mean we should have to sit here and listen to the gospel of the world according to a nineteen-year-old on every damn subject. A little respect for other people's views would be greatly appreciated.

;)
SMW

Young men are always know-it-alls... My 16 year old brother is the worst. He just has to point out how "wrong" everyone else is and how right he is, all the time. He's also self-centered and extremely disrespectful. I think it's a phase that young guys go through, probably something to do with all that testosterone...

to shut most rational folk up,is have them watch :

-- Cash Cab --
The game show that takes place right in a N.Y.City Cab.
Asked a foray of general knowledge questions,most cabfare
eventually become humbled along the way,when they THINK they
know an answer or miss one.
Life isn't nearly the piece of cake, many paint.
The more one is assured of something,I say the less they know.
It's the humble that need rule.
Of course that wood rule me out.
Somewhat,at least.

I really don't mind listening to what you think about the world... in fact, I find it interesting.The older we get, the more we realize that fact... but that doesn't mean we should have to sit here and listen to the gospel of the world according to a nineteen-year-old on every damn subject.Make up your mind, would ya? :)

No, I don't. But it sounded like you believed that because you seem think YOU will always be a 'liberal.' It's the ONLY way, the RIGHT way and there's no room for question... amen! I'd be relieved if you at least considered the point that you might not always feel the same way. I swing from Conservative to Liberal opinions on various subjects... especially as I get older. I have no doubt you will, too.
SMW, please, give it a rest. I'm sure my opinions will change as I get older. I actually have some conservative stances right now -- I'm pro-gun and pro-death penalty. However, you made it seem as though people only get more conservative, not more liberal, when they get older. And that's simply not true.

I wasn't really speaking geographically. Most young people are mainly influenced by their parent's beliefs until they move away from home. If they have 'liberal' parents, of course they're exposed to the concept... regardless of where they live. But if they don't, chances are, their first major exposure to liberal attitudes is in college.
Well, since half of adults are Democrats, I'd have to say only half of kids are exposed to liberalism at college. But you didn't say that. You said most kids are exposed to liberalism in college, which is again, simply NOT TRUE. Thanks for correcting yourself.

You seem to be backtracking on all your definitive statements.

And don't get me wrong. I'm not BASHING liberals... or educators in general.
You are bashing liberals, actually.

You said those who are liberal in their 30's and beyond are whiney, trying to stay young, and never found their meaning in life. Implying that only idiots are liberal beyond a certain point. How rude, ignorant and arrogant.

My parents are in their 40's, liberal, and are none of those things. They make 150,000 a year, are happy with their jobs, and active in their community. And for you to say that about them causes me to become offended. And don't try and play it off as if you were joking. Because that isn't a funny joke, nor do I believe you were trying to make a joke.

The bottom line is, I can find countless "liberals" who have just as much life experience as you and never became "more conservative" (IE: look at those old Democrats in Congress and old professors at college--and I'm sure they never found 'purpose' in their lives! LOL)

But surely you agree that when it comes to college... it's a PHASE. You won't be in college all your life. You may someday find yourself surrounded by *gasp* conservatives! You can still climb on soapboxes to save the world, but that kinda stuff becomes less and less important once you start facing the 9-5 world. Fact of life, sweetie.
What you learn from college you keep with you for life. And that tends to make you more liberal. Fact of life, sweetie.

Why do you think the most college educated city, Seattle, is so liberal? Because being educated tends to make you more liberal on issues, no matter how old you become.

things work better than we do because you're 'with it' and we're not. Admittedly, Borg is more guilty than you are, but that might just be because he hangs around here more than you do. I've seen you do your share of playing Mr. Know-it-all, too.
I never said I know more than you. The only person who is guilty of saying they know more than someone is you.

And the point I'm trying to make is that there are just as many old Democrats as there are Republicans. And when you try and make it seem as though only young kids are Democrats, or that only stupid old people are Democrats, that makes you fall victim to the same things you are accusing me of.

A little respect for other people's views would be greatly appreciated.
LOL. Yes. Why don't you have a little respect, too? No matter how old you are, you'll get treated how you treat others. And yet you feel the need to attack liberalism and progressive ideas as either being---

1. A fad
2. A phase
or
3. Something only idiot old people believe in

Now if that isn't all bullshit and a way for conservatives to get out of debating the real issues, I don't know what is. Nice spin-job. I'll give you that.

OD: She may be bashing liberals, but you're effectively bashing anyone who isn't liberal... Kinda the same thing. I'm really tired of it too, from both sides.

OD: She may be bashing liberals, but you're effectively bashing anyone who isn't liberal... Kinda the same thing. I'm really tired of it too, from both sides.
Hey, I'm bashing conservatives in general. I'm not going to deny it. And sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but I'm not talking in terms of that.

The problem with SMW is that she thinks others shouldn't act the same way she acts.

I have no problem with her generalizing liberals, young people, or ANYTHING for that matter. As long as the generalizations are true. But what I do have a problem with is that SMW has a problem with others generalizing, when yet she, herself, does it. She also calls for respect from me and others, yet half of the things she says are dis-respectful.

So no, I'm not a hypocrite. SMW is the hypocrite.

If you are going to dish it out, you better be willing to take it. And if aren't willing to take it, don't dish it out. Unless you want to look like a hypocrite and a cry-baby when someone gives you a taste of your own medicine.

PS: Quit with the whole, I'm not on either side, and both sides are equally to blame, so I'm so much better and above these petty politics that I should be listened to as the voice of reason!

Hey, I'm bashing conservatives in general. I'm not going to deny it.

...

PS: Quit with the whole, I'm not on either side, and both sides are equally to blame, so I'm so much better and above these petty politics that I should be listened to as the voice of reason!
Why? You just admitted that she's right. Perhaps if you stopped being a partisan hack, people would listen to you as a voice of reason. You're certainly not stupid, and if you dropped the confrontational, us-against-them, George W. Bush mindset, I imagine more people would respect your opinions. But people don't listen to you, or people like, for example, sisko, because you both are pretty much just partisan hacks (think of yourself as the Paul Begala to sisko's Tucker Carlson). I rarely see original thought out of you, just liberal talking points. Perhaps the reason people call you petty and partisan and distance themselves from you is because you're, well, petty and partisan?

People don't come to Allforums to get yelled at, or to see you yell at people. The reason you inspire enmity here has nothing to do with your opinions, but rather in how you present them. Every disagreement is not Mongols at the gates, nor is every personal attack on you a call to arms. I sometimes get caught up in the heat of the moment too, but doing a lot of yelling and flailing, as is your posting style, won't earn you many friends or much respect. People disliking you is ultimately their problem, as I'm sure you'll agree, but if you're truly interested in being listened to as a voice of reason, you'll stop and reevaluate how you post, and perhaps issue a couple apologies. Otherwise, you'll pretty much keep on fanning the flames of hate, which to be quite frank, has you on the road to getting banned.

People don't come to Allforums to get yelled at, or to see you yell at people.

People don't come to Allforums to be talked down to by you either.


Otherwise, you'll pretty much keep on fanning the flames of hate, which to be quite frank, has you on the road to getting banned.

Or threatened.
Interestingly, the meaning behind your "threat" is that you would cave into the haters and ban OD for doing nothing the haters don't do.

People don't come to Allforums to be talked down to by you either.
Gee, you're one to talk on that subject. And incidentally, I wasn't "talking down", I was giving advice that OD is perfectly free to ignore. He has a serious posting style problem (one which he shares with you, incidentally; feel free to take the post I made to him, replace his name with yours, and use it as a helpful guide for you as well).
Or threatened.
Interestingly, the meaning behind your "threat" is that you would cave into the haters and ban OD for doing nothing the haters don't do.
"Haters"? OD's the biggest "hater" on Allforums at the moment. Or have you ignored the two fights he's picked in this thread? And the third he is trying to pick with DF?

Oh, and I can't resist: Homie, don't hate on me! Damn haters always gotta be hatin'!

The ex-boyfriend to the rescue!

Why? You just admitted that she's right. Perhaps if you stopped being a partisan hack, people would listen to you as a voice of reason.
I never tried to say DF was wrong. What I was trying to point out is that my issue with SMW is something DF did not understand.

Here is my problem with SMW. If she is going to generalize and say rude comments, she can't criticize those who do the same. Essentially, she can't hold herself to a lower standard and others to a higher standard.

Yes, I say and do the exact same things as SMW does --(as DF correctly pointed out)--. But I don't expect others, like SMW does, to act and behave better than myself. That's the difference I was trying to point out.

You're certainly not stupid, and if you dropped the confrontational, us-against-them, George W. Bush mindset, I imagine more people would respect your opinions. But people don't listen to you, or people like, for example, sisko, because you both are pretty much just partisan hacks (think of yourself as the Paul Begala to sisko's Tucker Carlson). I rarely see original thought out of you, just liberal talking points. Perhaps the reason people call you petty and partisan and distance themselves from you is because you're, well, petty and partisan?
If my opinions are "talking points", so be it. The funny thing is, you also fall victim to the same type of attacks conservatives use. Instead of actually debating my position, you dismiss it on the basis of, "Oh, it's just another partisan talking point" --(which is NOT refuting the position, however, it is a clever way to escape debate)--. This is similar to the conservatives who dismiss liberalism/progressive ideas as a, "fad or trend" and something only, "young people believe in".

People don't come to Allforums to get yelled at, or to see you yell at people. The reason you inspire enmity here has nothing to do with your opinions, but rather in how you present them. Every disagreement is not Mongols at the gates, nor is every personal attack on you a call to arms. I sometimes get caught up in the heat of the moment too, but doing a lot of yelling and flailing, as is your posting style, won't earn you many friends or much respect. People disliking you is ultimately their problem, as I'm sure you'll agree, but if you're truly interested in being listened to as a voice of reason, you'll stop and reevaluate how you post, and perhaps issue a couple apologies. Otherwise, you'll pretty much keep on fanning the flames of hate, which to be quite frank, has you on the road to getting banned.
The problem with you is that only once I attacked someone you had a personal relationship with did you start to become upset. And I'm sure you'll deny it, but I can read the writing on the wall.

The fact is, you use Allforums to feed your ego because of the many things lacking in your life. So go ahead, use it as your power-trip, talk down to others, and please, become even more of an egomaniac while you're at it.

Honestly, I like coming here and expressing myself. But if I'm going to be banned for saying things that are minor in comparision to what has been said to me and others in the past, that's pretty pathetic on your part. But I guess when personal history gets in the way of doing one's job, all reason goes out the window.

You're right about SOME young men being know-it-alls, DF. But fortunately, they're not ALL like that. An inexperienced young person who's curious about the world and eager to find his/her place in it is a beautiful thing. An inexperienced young person who thinks he already knows all the answers is an immature brat. I'm doubly thankful for you and the other young people who post respectfully. I greatly admire your intelligence and maturity and respect your opinions.

The only reason I chose to bring up this subject is because 'everyone' (including me) is hesitant to talk about it because nobody wants to be accused of 'talking down' to young people... a mortal sin for old folks. But I'm willing to risk that rep in an effort to promote a semblence of peace around here. Earlier this week, I witnessed Master Borg say something so rude and disgusting about Ren's family while involved in a discussion about WHAT KIND OF CAR PEOPLE PREFER TO DRIVE, I think there's a real possibility she won't come back here. I hope I'm wrong. But even if she does, there is NO excuse for what he said to her. He'd be damned lucky to end up with 5 kids and a mortgage when he's her age. At the rate he makes friends and influences people, he may just find himself living alone under a bridge at 45. There's more to leading a successful life than making passing grades in school. As his ex g/f, maybe you can provide some positive influence on his social skills?

Not sure there's any hope for OD, though. His head's so big and hard, it's doubtful anyone can say anything that would get thru to him. He's way too busy thinking up his rebuttals to accept any constructive criticism.

And speaking of faults... I have plenty of my own. For one thing, I have and have always had a SMARTMOUTH. Duh. However, I only give back what I get. Deal with me respectfully and I'll do the same for you. Slam me and you're gonna get slammed back. I'm really not that complicated an individual.

Have to admit... I did get a chuckle out of this comment from OD to Borg:

The fact is, you use Allforums to feed your ego because of the many things lacking in your life. So go ahead, use it as your power-trip, talk down to others, and please, become even more of an egomaniac while you're at it.

Talk about your pot calling the kettle black! If I really wanted to stir the pot, I'd add some comment about OD lacking a g/f in his life as being the root of most of his problems. Ain't gonna go there, though. Nope, not me.

;)
SMW

Talk about Al callin the Forum Black.
Al who,I say.?
Al all.
Is All.

Talk about Al callin the Forum Black.
Al who,I say.?
Al all.
Is All.

Al all? Isn't that the official Israeli airline?

:comphit:

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]Al all? Isn't that the official Israeli airline?

Um's...El Al.
As in Tel Aviv.

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]Al all? Isn't that the official Israeli airline?

Um's...El Al.
As in Tel Aviv.

Ah, yes... El Al.

Shalom.

:drinktoth

He has a serious posting style problem

So do most people here, including you.

The only reason I chose to bring up this subject is because 'everyone' (including me) is hesitant to talk about it because nobody wants to be accused of 'talking down' to young people... a mortal sin for old folks. But I'm willing to risk that rep in an effort to promote a semblence of peace around here.

No worries there SMW, you already have the rep of talking down to anyone you disagree with. You just do it by calling people "sweety" and other condescending endearments. BTW, you aren't capable of promoting "peace" here, even if anyone believed you wanted to do that.


Earlier this week, I witnessed Master Borg say something so rude and disgusting about Ren's family while involved in a discussion about WHAT KIND OF CAR PEOPLE PREFER TO DRIVE, I think there's a real possibility she won't come back here.

Don't you think you're overstating things a bit? Borg said something he shouldn't have, he apologized for it, and Ren chose not to accept what she took to be an insincere apology. She didn't even hint that she was going to leave allforums, nor did she even hint that she was considering such a move. You claim to want to promote "peace" yet here you are trying to inflate a minor conflict into something it wasn't.


I hope I'm wrong.

We all share your hope. :)


But even if she does, there is NO excuse for what he said to her.

Hence his apology.


At the rate he makes friends and influences people, he may just find himself living alone under a bridge at 45. There's more to leading a successful life than making passing grades in school. As his ex g/f, maybe you can provide some positive influence on his social skills?

Not sure there's any hope for OD, though. His head's so big and hard, it's doubtful anyone can say anything that would get thru to him. He's way too busy thinking up his rebuttals to accept any constructive criticism.

Is this another demonstration of your peacemaking skills?


And speaking of faults... I have plenty of my own. For one thing, I have and have always had a SMARTMOUTH.

Yeah...we know. Congratulations.


However, I only give back what I get.

Taking cues from dharma now?


If I really wanted to stir the pot, I'd add some comment about OD lacking a g/f in his life as being the root of most of his problems.

ROFL...now that was funny. :)

Speaking of keeping the pot stirred... hello, Vile.

If you check back, I believe you'll find that Borg made his most insulting remark to Ren AFTER his so-called apology for calling her dad a dickhead. No surprise she refused his offer. If you want to smooth over the incident, you really should do a little homework before you start defending him.

And I have no such 'rep' for talking down to people, dumplin. Only weenie-men who have a hard time dealing with strong women have a problem with my smartmouth. Sorry if your Oscar Meyer shrivels up everytime we have an encounter. Sounds like more of a personal problem to me.

;)
SMW

Speaking of keeping the pot stirred... hello, Vile.

Hey, I'm not the one who brought up a conflict in another thread, one that had probably already died, and then claimed I was trying to "make peace". Let it go SMW, it was between Ren and Borg, and all you're doing is as you say, "stirring the pot".


If you check back, I believe you'll find that Borg made his most insulting remark to Ren AFTER his so-called apology for calling her dad a dickhead. No surprise she refused his offer.

I read the thread in its entirety before making my post. Perhaps you could point out this comment he made after his apology, because I'm not seeing it.


If you want to smooth over the incident, you really should do a little homework before you start defending him.

See above. BTW, I'm not defending Borg, I'm attacking your assertion that you're attempting to make peace. You're just trying to start more trouble, and it's a sadly transparent attempt.


And I have no such 'rep' for talking down to people, dumplin.

ROFL. Whatever you say, honey.


Only weenie-men who have a hard time dealing with strong women have a problem with my smartmouth. Sorry if your Oscar Meyer shrivels up everytime we have an encounter. Sounds like more of a personal problem to me.


I have no problem with your mouth, or your gender, woman; but I do have a problem with people who lecture others on their bad behavior while setting a terrible example themselves. If you practiced what you preached you might actually gain the respect you apparently crave. :)

If my opinions are "talking points", so be it. The funny thing is, you also fall victim to the same type of attacks conservatives use. Instead of actually debating my position, you dismiss it on the basis of, "Oh, it's just another partisan talking point" --(which is NOT refuting the position, however, it is a clever way to escape debate)--. This is similar to the conservatives who dismiss liberalism/progressive ideas as a, "fad or trend" and something only, "young people believe in".
Because about 75% of the time, I agree with what you say. As I said, I have no problem with what you're saying, I just think you don't say it in a way that engenders peace and love and all that other happy shit.

Hey, I'm not the one who brought up a conflict in another thread, one that had probably already died, and then claimed I was trying to "make peace". Let it go SMW, it was between Ren and Borg, and all you're doing is as you say, "stirring the pot".



I read the thread in its entirety before making my post. Perhaps you could point out this comment he made after his apology, because I'm not seeing it.



See above. BTW, I'm not defending Borg, I'm attacking your assertion that you're attempting to make peace. You're just trying to start more trouble, and it's a sadly transparent attempt.



ROFL. Whatever you say, honey.



I have no problem with your mouth, or your gender, woman; but I do have a problem with people who lecture others on their bad behavior while setting a terrible example themselves. If you practiced what you preached you might actually gain the respect you apparently crave. :)

Vile, if you think THIS is an appropriate thing for a young man to say to a grown woman (AFTER he called her father a dickhead) then you have more problems than Borg:

... but I can guarantee you that at 45, I will not be broke, married, with five kids, a shitty job, and hanging onto a chunk of aluminum and plastic to validate my self-worth.

She hasn't been back since. Doesn't matter to me whether you like it or not, I believe Borg acted like an asshole to her.... over a subject that meant NOTHING. I'm not 'keeping it going' -- it isn't over yet. It may be hunky-dory with you for decent people to be run off from Allforums because of hateful young men who can't control their ego, but it's NOT OK with me. If you don't like my interference, ban me. Last time I looked, I have just as much right to express my opinion as the next guy... whether you approve or not.

SMW

Vile, if you think THIS is an appropriate thing for a young man to say to a grown woman (AFTER he called her father a dickhead) then you have more problems than Borg:

I see. The problem here is that we have differing opinions on which of Borg's comments was "worse".


She hasn't been back since.

Untrue. What was that you said to me about doing your homework?


Doesn't matter to me whether you like it or not, I believe Borg acted like an asshole to her.... over a subject that meant NOTHING.

*sighs* I repeat...I don't think what Borg said to her was appropriate, and neither did he after further reflection. Hence his apology. Clear now?


I'm not 'keeping it going' -- it isn't over yet.

Bull.


It may be hunky-dory with you for decent people to be run off from Allforums because of hateful young men who can't control their ego, but it's NOT OK with me.

No one has been run off. You are grossly exaggerating a minor conflict into something it is not, and in an attempt to confuse the issue, you're now creating straw men to beat upon.


If you don't like my interference, ban me.

ROFL. Feeling like a martyr again?


Last time I looked, I have just as much right to express my opinion as the next guy... whether you approve or not.


Of course you do SMW, and I have every right to point out the fallacies inherent in your opinions.

Rendova doesn't need you to be offended for her, she's quite capable of taking care of herself, and making her own arguments. I daresay she's much better at it than you.

No one has been run off. You are grossly exaggerating a minor conflict into something it is not, and in an attempt to confuse the issue, you're now creating straw men to beat upon.

Maybe you'd like to prove that statement, straw man?

soooooooooo Touchy.This is only a message board.
There are gonna be times when a nutter poster feels slighted
or being talked down to.That is Life.In Politics it happens to be
THE only constant.Whether it's Harry Reid,slighting and talking down,
almost weekly to Our Commander-in-Chief.
or any of the Dem Candidates talking about our Pres.
Or each udders.
Yes,actually Grown men & women,do act very persnickety proud
about their POV vs. someone else's.
Whatadaya gonna do.Have everyone go to the Principles office.
I say,just grow a thick hide and move on.
Sticks & Stones may
break Bones,
But,Names niver
called anyone on the phone.
It's People that doo doo.

Maybe you'd like to prove that statement, straw man?

Do a search of all Ren's posts and you'll find she made a few posts yesterday...a day after her run-in with Borg. If he "ran her off" as you suggest, why did she come back yesterday?

Personally I have more respect for Ren than to think she'd leave allforums because of what Borg said to her.

Do a search of all Ren's posts and you'll find she made a few posts yesterday...a day after her run-in with Borg. If he "ran her off" as you suggest, why did she come back yesterday?

Personally I have more respect for Ren than to think she'd leave allforums because of what Borg said to her.

She was upset, Vile. Yeah, sure... she'll probably get over it and be back to her normal cheery self sometime. And no doubt she'll have second thoughts before she jumps into another deep discussion like what kind of car her daddy loved.

The point is, if Borg couldn't control himself, you shoulda stepped into the situation -- instead of attacking ME for bringing it up. It's that same ole pattern... all's fair at Allforums when it comes to insulting Christians, Conservatives and I guess now we can add... people over 40. If they can't take it, they can just leave or get over it, eh? Maybe you should add that line to the invisible TOS agreement you operate under.

Both Borg and SMW have made some valid points.

While both Borg and Overdose come across as know-it-alls, at least Borg does know some stuff and is not simply spouting some party line. Overdose has yet to post an original thought and instead resorts to spouting the liberal party line. That shortcoming is not the sole possession of the young though as evidenced by dharmabum who is simply an older version of Overdose. That bodes ill for Overdose because it is proof that not everyone becomes wiser as he/she becomes older.

I just wish you young squirts who think you know it all would stop arguing with we older people who really do know it all.

The point is, if Borg couldn't control himself, you shoulda stepped into the situation
Actually, I should have moderated my own damn self. Doctor, heal thyself and all that. I didn't until I realized that I was being an asshole, which I apologized for. Which brings me to this...
instead of attacking ME for bringing it up.
Tell me, what good is it going to do to bring it up now? I already realized I acted inappropriately, and have said so numerous times. What, exactly, do you suggest I do further? A public flogging? I'm not perfect, and I'm going to make mistakes, and I'd like to think that when I do I can own up to them. I did in this case. I can't do much more than admit to it and try not to do it again in the future.
It's that same ole pattern... all's fair at Allforums when it comes to insulting Christians, Conservatives and I guess now we can add... people over 40.
Vile will be 48 in June. ;)

Both Borg and SMW have made some valid points.

While both Borg and Overdose come across as know-it-alls, at least Borg does know some stuff and is not simply spouting some party line. Overdose has yet to post an original thought and instead resorts to spouting the liberal party line. That shortcoming is not the sole possession of the young though as evidenced by dharmabum who is simply an older version of Overdose. That bodes ill for Overdose because it is proof that not everyone becomes wiser as he/she becomes older.

I just wish you young squirts who think you know it all would stop arguing with we older people who really do know it all.

I'd ask Borg,but since he has me on Iggy and all.
What does Borg Hunter stand for or mean.?
If nothing than I guess the shoe fits.
If somthing than The shoe's got dog crap all over the bottom.
If no one knows fer sure,than please,get Borg's hairdresser ta post.
Is All.

Actually, I should have moderated my own damn self. Dcotor, heal thyself and all that. I didn't until I realized that I was being an asshole, which I apologized for. Which brings me to this...

Tell me, what good is it going to do to bring it up now? I already realized I acted inappropriately, and have said so numerous times. What, exactly, do you suggest I do further? A public flogging? I'm not perfect, and I'm going to make mistakes, and I'd like to think that when I do I can own up to them. I did in this case. I can't do much more than admit to it and try not to do it again in the future.

Vile will be 48 in June. ;)

It's nice to see you express remorse, Borg. That's what good it does to bring it up now. Your original 'apology' to Ren, which she declined, was not very convincing nor sincere. I didn't intend to make this a crusade over the situation... until Vile decided to jump in my face for bringing it up. Far as I'm concerned, the subject is closed and I can walk away with more respect for you as a person for admitting you were wrong.

Vile may be over the hill, but he's also a liberal, atheist, homosexual... which puts him in better company here than most of us old codgers.

;)
SMW

P.S. to Frogger -- wanna go kick some young butt, old man? I'll bring your walker if you'll hold my cane.

PS: Quit with the whole, I'm not on either side, and both sides are equally to blame, so I'm so much better and above these petty politics that I should be listened to as the voice of reason!
Why? I'm perfectly correct here. I don't think of myself as "the voice of reason", but apparently I am above your petty politics. :)

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]It's nice to see you express remorse, Borg. That's what good it does to bring it up now. Your original 'apology' to Ren, which she declined, was not very convincing nor sincere. I didn't intend to make this a crusade over the situation... until Vile decided to jump in my face for bringing it up. Far as I'm concerned, the subject is closed and I can walk away with more respect for you as a person for admitting you were wrong.

Vile may be over the hill, but he's also a liberal, atheist, homosexual... which puts him in better company here than most of us old codgers.


What's wrong with Old.?
No human ever was exempt.
Cept that Narcissus fella.
I think he dated Oscar Wilde on the side.

[QUOTE=smartmouthwoman]It's nice to see you express remorse, Borg. That's what good it does to bring it up now. Your original 'apology' to Ren, which she declined, was not very convincing nor sincere. I didn't intend to make this a crusade over the situation... until Vile decided to jump in my face for bringing it up. Far as I'm concerned, the subject is closed and I can walk away with more respect for you as a person for admitting you were wrong.

Vile may be over the hill, but he's also a liberal, atheist, homosexual... which puts him in better company here than most of us old codgers.


What's wrong with Old.?
No human ever was exempt.
Cept that Narcissus fella.
I think he dated Oscar Wilde on the side.

I'm surprised at you, Foolie. Can't you remember being 19 and bulletproof... sure that getting old would never happen to YOU? Man, I sure can. Seems like yesterday, in fact!

What's wrong with Old.?
No human ever was exempt.
Cept that Narcissus fella.
I think he dated Oscar Wilde on the side.
What's so damn troublesome about not having died?

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/TNG101d.jpg

What, exactly, do you suggest I do further? A public flogging?

As a matter of fact, that's exactly what I want.

Someone find a knout. There's gonna be a public flogging.


FLOGGING! FLOGGING! FLOGGING!

What's so damn troublesome about not having died?

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/TNG101d.jpg

Because the legend of Narcissus is not pretty.
And Echo became relegated {punished} to only being allowed to repeat
the last words of whatever sentence someone spoke to her.
Is All.

Why? I'm perfectly correct here. I don't think of myself as "the voice of reason", but apparently I am above your petty politics. :)
For you to think you are above "petty" politics because you bash both parties doesn't impress anyone -- except maybe your own ego.

PS: You aren't "perfectly correct" either.

For you to think you are above "petty" politics because you bash both parties doesn't impress anyone -- except maybe your own ego.

PS: You aren't "perfectly correct" either.

PS: You aren't "Roseanne" either... why do you have her pic up?

PS: You aren't "Roseanne" either... why do you have her pic up?

That was in her pretty stage.She had a pretty face,for awhile.
I saw on YouTube her have lunch with Phyllis Diller at her
60's mansion in Calif.It kinda neato.
Roseanne paid her a lunch visit and talked about life,while
fixin spaghetti and salad.
It was kinda neato.
I admire Ms.Diller.She's bigger than Life.
Did you know she's given 100 Piano recittals all over the world
with Big Orchestras.?

For you to think you are above "petty" politics because you bash both parties doesn't impress anyone -- except maybe your own ego.

PS: You aren't "perfectly correct" either.
I am correct. You berated SMW for bashing liberals, and I said that YOU were bashing conservatives, which you then admitted.

And I don't "bash" both parties. When have I ever started one of the oh-so-common threads like "Obama is a Commie" or "Bush Hates Black People" or something like that? I have not, because being free of party alliance prevents me from taking rumors or small comments and blowing them out of proportion in an idiotic bash-fest. I also don't dismiss people's comments because "you're a liberal!" or "you're a conservative!" like you and others seem to do.

That was in her pretty stage.She had a pretty face,for awhile.
I saw on YouTube her have lunch with Phyllis Diller at her
60's mansion in Calif.It kinda neato.
Roseanne paid her a lunch visit and talked about life,while
fixin spaghetti and salad.
It was kinda neato.
I admire Ms.Diller.She's bigger than Life.
Did you know she's given 100 Piano recittals all over the world
with Big Orchestras.?

I like Ms. Diller, too. And Roseanne for that matter. Yeah, we all go thru our pretty stage. Unfortunately, it's over before you can say, "Holy Crap! Who's that witch in my mirror?"

;)
SMW

I try not to think about that, SMW...

My mom is 43 and she looks good, not just good for her age. So I figure I've got a while.

I try not to think about that, SMW...

My mom is 43 and she looks good, not just good for her age. So I figure I've got a while.

My mom died at 89 and she STILL looked good (for her age, of course). I always thought she was the most beautiful woman I ever knew... wrinkles and all.

Awwww, you've got plenty of time, DF. And don't let that hairy-legged OD get to you... you've got more brains in your little finger than him and Borg combined have in their whole bodies.

:bighug:
SMW

... you've got more brains in your little finger than him and Borg combined have in their whole bodies.

:bighug:
SMW

You're a very intelligent woman DF, but I'd recommend you use the brains you have in your head rather than those you have in other parts of your body. ;)

You're a very intelligent woman DF, but I'd recommend you use the brains you have in your head rather than those you have in other parts of your body. ;)
:lolhit: Okie dokie.

I simply agree with Frogger's point that its offensive to hear a U.S. citizen say they have never been proud of their country.

?!?!?

As for me, I find it bizarre that some people find it "offensive" what other citizen's personal views about whether or not they feel *pride in their country*.

?!?!?!?

What does one American care if another citizen happens to says they have "never felt pride in their country"........?!????

I don't get it.

Well, actually, now that I think about it, I think I can deduce why they are so offended.

It goes back to the conservative/religious worldview of the majority, and how angry those of that mindset become when ever they learn, to their horror, that someone, somewhere actually has a very different viewpoint than they do.

They ---conservatives and/or religionists--- are perpetually vexed and crushed to find that not everyone on the planet is going to *get in line and join the crowd* and help to validate their political or religious views.

Sad.

And don't let that hairy-legged OD get to you... you've got more brains in your little finger than him and Borg combined have in their whole bodies.
What happened to your "efforts to promote peace" here, SMW? That sure died in a hurry when you found an opportunity to toss in a weak jab.

You're a very intelligent woman DF, but I'd recommend you use the brains you have in your head rather than those you have in other parts of your body. ;)
It's usually men who think with the wrong head.

What happened to your "efforts to promote peace" here, SMW? That sure died in a hurry when you found an opportunity to toss in a weak jab.

If I may.Ya gotta understand that Smarty is Like Hillary,in a
way.She's used to Supreme Poetic License.
Lordy knows the many heated battles we fought,towards
each other at Yahoo.
In that {those little intra-thread battles} I believe I batted
around .100.That wood be 1 in 10 debates where I won over
Her and her dynamically local band of followers.
So,it turned out I was bein Moot.
Nothin I had to say,was gonna convince anybody ...anything at
the Old - Smartmouthwoman Speaks -.Again,hers was The most
posted Thread,on the whole.
But the thingy was...she groomed that kind of popularity.
Always made sure to greet every single reglar poster,each day and
even had a goodie bag of niceties for each.Not much different
from her place here.
I'm misunderstood and I guess y'all have mistook what Smarty
is all about.
The thingy IS,she may not have been built for all this Politics &
currents events stuff which run the gamut and have so many
inflexible positions that older folk,set in their ways,don't wanna
hear,let alone debate.
In mY mind's eye,the mark of a Good Poster,or even a great one
is their ability to gain another's ear and also cause concern over
the import of what they post.
Whatever words or sentiment they imploy,if a Poster is read
and other's think about what they read,than they have accomplished
something.
Is all.
To that I guess one could merely reflect on the past performance
of our Miss Smarty.
She's damn nears Legendary.
Some day they'll construct Awards for Posters and Bloggers.

If I may.Ya gotta understand that Smarty is Like Hillary,in a
way.She's used to Supreme Poetic License.
Lordy knows the many heated battles we fought,towards
each other at Yahoo.
In that {those little intra-thread battles} I believe I batted
around .100.That wood be 1 in 10 debates where I won over
Her and her dynamically local band of followers.
So,it turned out I was bein Moot.
Nothin I had to say,was gonna convince anybody ...anything at
the Old - Smartmouthwoman Speaks -.Again,hers was The most
posted Thread,on the whole.
But the thingy was...she groomed that kind of popularity.
Always made sure to greet every single reglar poster,each day and
even had a goodie bag of niceties for each.Not much different
from her place here.
I'm misunderstood and I guess y'all have mistook what Smarty
is all about.
The thingy IS,she may not have been built for all this Politics &
currents events stuff which run the gamut and have so many
inflexible positions that older folk,set in their ways,don't wanna
hear,let alone debate.
In mY mind's eye,the mark of a Good Poster,or even a great one
is their ability to gain another's ear and also cause concern over
the import of what they post.
Whatever words or sentiment they imploy,if a Poster is read
and other's think about what they read,than they have accomplished
something.
Is all.
To that I guess one could merely reflect on the past performance
of our Miss Smarty.
She's damn nears Legendary.
Some day they'll construct Awards for Posters and Bloggers.
That's damn insightful, Foolsworth.

That's damn insightful, Foolsworth.
he reminds me of Odder..
know what I mean?

he reminds me of Odder..
know what I mean?
http://laughing_lawyer.tripod.com/images/prof_corey.jpg

Maybe the same way Professor Irwin Corey reminds me of Albert Einstein.

http://laughing_lawyer.tripod.com/images/prof_corey.jpg

Maybe the same way Professor Irwin Corey reminds me of Albert Einstein.
maybe it's the hair..;)

Certain Allforums posters know a dirtly little secret about Borghunter. Borghunter is really dumb, dumb, dumb. All of the really stupid things he has posted over the years have been posted by him. What few posters realize is, Borghunter has hired a ghost poster who posts all his intelligent posts. Any time a Borghunter post is intelligent It has been posted by the ghost poster.

The ex-boyfriend to the rescue!


The problem with you is that only once I attacked someone you had a personal relationship with did you start to become upset. And I'm sure you'll deny it, but I can read the writing on the wall.

The fact is, you use Allforums to feed your ego because of the many things lacking in your life. So go ahead, use it as your power-trip, talk down to others, and please, become even more of an egomaniac while you're at it.

Honestly, I like coming here and expressing myself. But if I'm going to be banned for saying things that are minor in comparision to what has been said to me and others in the past, that's pretty pathetic on your part. But I guess when personal history gets in the way of doing one's job, all reason goes out the window.


http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/sparticus70/TOOL.jpg

:lolhit: That is a GREAT pic, LF.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/sparticus70/TOOL.jpg

Oh Yeah.
- Invasion of the Post Snatchers -.
The remake,however.
S'not like Me stuff.

Quote:
Originally Posted by smartmouthwoman
And don't let that hairy-legged OD get to you... you've got more brains in your little finger than him and Borg combined have in their whole bodies.

What happened to your "efforts to promote peace" here, SMW? That sure died in a hurry when you found an opportunity to toss in a weak jab.

The truth shall set you free, Borg!

Surely you don't think you and OD are smarter than DF, do you? Why, her ability to make friends and influence people leaves you both in the dirt. And when it comes right down to it, that's the talent that gets you ahead in life. You could both take some lessons from her.

;)
SMW

Isn't pride one of the "Seven Deadly Sins"?.

The truth shall set you free, Borg!

Surely you don't think you and OD are smarter than DF, do you? Why, her ability to make friends and influence people leaves you both in the dirt. And when it comes right down to it, that's the talent that gets you ahead in life. You could both take some lessons from her.

;)
SMW
Silly woman, you think I'm exactly the same person on the Internet as I am in real life? I yell about politics all the time on Allforums, but I don't do it very often anywhere else.

The truth shall set you free, Borg!

Surely you don't think you and OD are smarter than DF, do you? Why, her ability to make friends and influence people leaves you both in the dirt. And when it comes right down to it, that's the talent that gets you ahead in life. You could both take some lessons from her.

;)
SMW
LOL. I have no friends on the Internet. Well damn. I feel so bad about myself. Because I have NO friends in real life to make up for it.

Wow. Which is more important....hmmmmm friends online or friends in real life?

Silly woman, you think I'm exactly the same person on the Internet as I am in real life? I yell about politics all the time on Allforums, but I don't do it very often anywhere else.

So,yer only a Loudmouth Bluto round hears.
Normally juts a quiet,unassuming milquetoast.
I nude it.

So,yer only a Loudmouth Bluto round hears.
Normally juts a quiet,unassuming milquetoast.
I nude it.
I wouldn't go quite that far, but I am certainly a bit more brash and arrogant on the Tubes than I am in day-to-day life. However, despite what SMW is trying to insinuate, I have plenty of friends in reality, and not just CS nerds either. Now that I think about it, actually, I have quite a diverse group of friends. Thanks, SMW, for reminding me of that. It's sometimes easy to forget how good I have it.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but I am certainly a bit more brash and arrogant on the Tubes than I am in day-to-day life. However, despite what SMW is trying to insinuate, I have plenty of friends in reality, and not just CS nerds either. Now that I think about it, actually, I have quite a diverse group of friends. Thanks, SMW, for reminding me of that. It's sometimes easy to forget how good I have it.

All sounds like a bunch a antithesis mumbo jumbo goulash ta mead.
I mite juts need to add a nutter to Me Ignore list and subtract
from the Buddy side.
Then again, I could always juggle the books and ask fer Me money
back.
BTW... how comes this Months' Allforums fee is not contingent.
It's just flat out and all.
Worse than a flat tire in a blizzard.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but I am certainly a bit more brash and arrogant on the Tubes than I am in day-to-day life. However, despite what SMW is trying to insinuate, I have plenty of friends in reality, and not just CS nerds either. Now that I think about it, actually, I have quite a diverse group of friends. Thanks, SMW, for reminding me of that. It's sometimes easy to forget how good I have it.

Glad to hear that, Borg. Maybe you should practice treating your online acquaintances with the same respect you employ with your real life friends? Hiding behind a monitor so you can get away with behaving like a tough guy really is kinda CS (and I don't mean computer science), don't you think?

:comphit:
SMW

Glad to hear that, Borg. Maybe you should practice treating your online acquaintances with the same respect you employ with your real life friends? Hiding behind a monitor so you can get away with behaving like a tough guy really is kinda CS (and I don't mean computer science), don't you think?

:comphit:
SMW
Your usage of CS is completely foreign to me here, but regardless: I treat people with as much respect as they treat me. If your feelings are hurt that I don't give you much respect, sorry, but you've never afforded me any and I don't see the need to go out of my way to be nice to random folks on the Internet who aren't nice to me.

Your usage of CS is completely foreign to me here, but regardless: I treat people with as much respect as they treat me. If your feelings are hurt that I don't give you much respect, sorry, but you've never afforded me any and I don't see the need to go out of my way to be nice to random folks on the Internet who aren't nice to me.

CS in this instance stands for CHICKEN SHIT, Borg. You know, people who hide behind their monitors and act tough?

You're right... you'll probably never need to relate to people you 'meet' on the 'net, so why be nice to them, eh? Unless, of course, you'd like to instill a little pleasant personality into your character makeup. Otherwise, you'll find your online personna will spill over into your real life world and before you know it, you'll start acting like you're superior to all your friends... not just those faceless people you practice being rude to online.

Respect is a two-way street. You have to give it to get it. And one more tidbit of news here... you don't have the power to get my goat since you have no idea where I keep it tied up.

;)
SMW

This is another example of SMW holding others to a higher standard than herself.

SMW can generalize, but no one else can.
SMW can be rude, but no one else can.
SMW can be mean, but no one else can.

But the bottom line is: SMW can dish it out, but she sure can't take it!

SMW, here is a lesson you should learn. You get treated how you treat others. I'm surprised you haven't learned that in all your time on this earth. But keep holding yourself to a lower standard. I guess you get to, because you're old that that means automatic respect for you, riiight? LOL.

you don't have the power to get my goat since you have no idea where I keep it tied up.

;)
SMW
Foolsworth told me. :eek: I knew you had man problems, but still, a goat!?!?

This is another example of SMW holding others to a higher standard than herself.

SMW can generalize, but no one else can.
SMW can be rude, but no one else can.
SMW can be mean, but no one else can.

But the bottom line is: SMW can dish it out, but she sure can't take it!

SMW, here is a lesson you should learn. You get treated how you treat others. I'm surprised you haven't learned that in all your time on this earth. But keep holding yourself to a lower standard. I guess you get to, because you're old that that means automatic respect for you, riiight? LOL.

Only if you were a man of good character, OD. Otherwise, I expect you to act exactly like you do.

I think old people do deserve respect... Hell, I'm looking forward to being able to do whatever I want and basically act like a lunatic when I'm old. Then people will just say, "Oh hell, she's just old." :D

I think old people do deserve respect... Hell, I'm looking forward to being able to do whatever I want and basically act like a lunatic when I'm old. Then people will just say, "Oh hell, she's just old." :D
Why do people deserve respect just for not having died?I respect people based on A) how they treat others, especially folk like service personnel, waitresses, and the like; B) how they treat me, including if they're willing to listen to my opinions especially if they ask for them or it's in a forum where different opinions are to be respected (forums like this, meetings, etc.); C) how well-reasoned their opinions are (regardless of what the actual opinion is); and D) if they hold themselves to at least as high a standard as they expect out of others. I have no idea how SMW behaves in real life, but on this forum she acts like her shit don't stink but everyone else's does, and when she pays people compliments it almost seems to me like she's doing it just to earn support, not because she genuinely respects other people. I could be way off-base here, but I think it's only fair to her to hear why I've made it clear how little respect I have for her. I don't have any particular animus about her as a person, just how she tends to behave on Allforums. I think we have all acted like that sometimes in the past, but SMW seems to make a habit of it a bit more than other posters, in my judgment. It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person, or stupid, or anything like that. In fact, one good thing I can say about her is that she usually uses English quite well, much better than most Internet folks (her unique definition of "oxymoron" notwithstanding). But I just find her to be too mean-spirited and hypocritical to really respect. As it stands, I'd be willing to stop talking to/about her if she'd do the same, due to irreconcilable difference of personality and opinion, but she seems to actively seek me out to insult, yell at, and needle. And it's damn difficult to stand idly by while someone badmouths you.

So, in short, I have no reason to say anything further to or about Super Mario World...er...SmartMouthWoman (sorry, I just had to note the similarity of initialisms there) if she'd agree to do the same. I may still comment on specific points she makes in threads, but I'm willing to extend the olive branch when it comes to personal attacks, etc. I hope she's willing to do the same so we can stop all this stupid sniping all the time.

I have no idea how SMW behaves in real life, but on this forum she acts like her shit don't stink but everyone else's does, and when she pays people compliments it almost seems to me like she's doing it just to earn support, not because she genuinely respects other people.
Hey, hey now... Someone called me intelligent. Let's not imply that she's lying, unless we want me to get kind of pissed off, mmkay? Especially since she's disrespected me in the past - the the fact that someone with whom I nearly always disagree thinks I'm alright has to mean something.

Of course I think SMW steps over the line of niceness sometimes. I wish she wouldn't, but with the condescension and mudslinging thrown around by everyone else, it hardly seems fair just to single her out...

Why do people deserve respect just for not having died?I respect people based on A) how they treat others, especially folk like service personnel, waitresses, and the like; B) how they treat me, including if they're willing to listen to my opinions especially if they ask for them or it's in a forum where different opinions are to be respected (forums like this, meetings, etc.); C) how well-reasoned their opinions are (regardless of what the actual opinion is); and D) if they hold themselves to at least as high a standard as they expect out of others. I have no idea how SMW behaves in real life, but on this forum she acts like her shit don't stink but everyone else's does, and when she pays people compliments it almost seems to me like she's doing it just to earn support, not because she genuinely respects other people. I could be way off-base here, but I think it's only fair to her to hear why I've made it clear how little respect I have for her. I don't have any particular animus about her as a person, just how she tends to behave on Allforums. I think we have all acted like that sometimes in the past, but SMW seems to make a habit of it a bit more than other posters, in my judgment. It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person, or stupid, or anything like that. In fact, one good thing I can say about her is that she usually uses English quite well, much better than most Internet folks (her unique definition of "oxymoron" notwithstanding). But I just find her to be too mean-spirited and hypocritical to really respect. As it stands, I'd be willing to stop talking to/about her if she'd do the same, due to irreconcilable difference of personality and opinion, but she seems to actively seek me out to insult, yell at, and needle. And it's damn difficult to stand idly by while someone badmouths you.

So, in short, I have no reason to say anything further to or about Super Mario World...er...SmartMouthWoman (sorry, I just had to note the similarity of initialisms there) if she'd agree to do the same. I may still comment on specific points she makes in threads, but I'm willing to extend the olive branch when it comes to personal attacks, etc. I hope she's willing to do the same so we can stop all this stupid sniping all the time.


I'm not sure what ushered this in.Maybe little stuff,like a snide comment
here and a hairpin snide remark there.Whatever.
I really don't see where anything is major.
Just age difference and one person tryin to seem more mature or
relevant than another.Based on board hierarchy or ability to usurp
another.
Maybe it's like a chess match,and a competing board piece isn't
willing to concede their game,early based on intrinsic value or past
board play.
Whatever.
It's far from life or death.In point of fact,mere childs play.
Maybe that's what posting too mush does.Creates an environ where
someone thinks things are more important than really are.
The really important stuff in life is pretty acute.
One should know when reality sucks or is unfair.When life rears
it's ugly head and causes mayhem./
As far as I can tell,what we got here is a :

-- " Failure ta Communicate " --
-- Strother Martin { Cool Hand Luke }.

Is All

I can accept DF's opinion that older people should be respected, even if I don't share it. And her point is fair, the mudslinging does go all ways. I rather like it that way. It would certainly be a more boring place without Super Mario World's (A+ Borg, A+) hilarious gift of putting her foot in her mouth with every other post, and the amusingly prideful and self-important gossippings she passes off as reasoned debate. I guess I just find her targetings (whenever she gets foolish enough to attack me, anyway) quite harmless.

Foolsworth told me. :eek: I knew you had man problems, but still, a goat!?!?

You mind explaining what " Foolsworth told me " is supposed
to mean.?

You don't remember the poker game? Well, you did drink an awful lot...

You don't remember the poker game? Well, you did drink an awful lot...

You stuck that in to make Smarty feel bad,as if I betrayed her
for some short-term affectation of male bonding with the likes of
You.

ROFL! You're a funny guy, Foolsworth.

Fool made Smartie's goat sad:(

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Can't be MY goat, Mikey... I already told you that I never divulge where I keep it tied up so nobody can get it!

Silly Borg. I'm sure you'd prefer that I dumb down the last 40 years of my life so I could act more like an intellectual equal to you, but it ain't gonna happen, sunshine. And you're delusional if you think your 'respect' really means that much to me. Respect for one's elders is the mark of good upbringing... but either you have it, or you don't. Regardless, it means very little to me. The only respect I demand here is the same respect you'd give to any other human being. If I don't like what you say, I reserve the right to tell you.. and expect the same from you. If things get too bad, I know how to use the IGNORE feature. (Dharma taught me... I think he has everyone except himself on IGNORE these days!) I'm sure you know how to use it as well.

This whole discussion was about Borg's attitude toward Ren and the nasty, insulting things he said to her... not whether I'm an acceptable poster or not. Neither Borg, OD or especially Nappy has ever said anything to me that 'crushed me to the bone.' I always consider the source and put it in its proper prospective. The lack of respect I accuse you of actually has very little to do with ME.

I would hope I've never 'crushed' anyone either. I may have a smartmouth, but anyone who knows me knows I have a soft heart. If talking to me makes you uncomfortable, feel free to avoid me and I'll do you the same favor.

One challenge I will make to the young men who can't seem to let this subject die... if you catch me being disrespectful to someone without provocation, I'd appreciate it if you'd bring it to my attention. In return, I'll do the same for you. Maybe none of us is aware that we're all guilty of disrespecting fellow posters? I'm a big enough person to want to clean up my act if I'm guilty... and hopefully you are too.

SMW

Smarty, thanks for your kind words. :)

Vile, thanks to you also.:)

Can't be MY goat, Mikey... I already told you that I never divulge where I keep it tied up so nobody can get it!

Silly Borg. I'm sure you'd prefer that I dumb down the last 40 years of my life so I could act more like an intellectual equal to you, but it ain't gonna happen, sunshine. And you're delusional if you think your 'respect' really means that much to me. Respect for one's elders is the mark of good upbringing... but either you have it, or you don't. Regardless, it means very little to me. The only respect I demand here is the same respect you'd give to any other human being. If I don't like what you say, I reserve the right to tell you.. and expect the same from you. If things get too bad, I know how to use the IGNORE feature. (Dharma taught me... I think he has everyone except himself on IGNORE these days!) I'm sure you know how to use it as well.

This whole discussion was about Borg's attitude toward Ren and the nasty, insulting things he said to her... not whether I'm an acceptable poster or not. Neither Borg, OD or especially Nappy has ever said anything to me that 'crushed me to the bone.' I always consider the source and put it in its proper prospective. The lack of respect I accuse you of actually has very little to do with ME.

I would hope I've never 'crushed' anyone either. I may have a smartmouth, but anyone who knows me knows I have a soft heart. If talking to me makes you uncomfortable, feel free to avoid me and I'll do you the same favor.

One challenge I will make to the young men who can't seem to let this subject die... if you catch me being disrespectful to someone without provocation, I'd appreciate it if you'd bring it to my attention. In return, I'll do the same for you. Maybe none of us is aware that we're all guilty of disrespecting fellow posters? I'm a big enough person to want to clean up my act if I'm guilty... and hopefully you are too.

SMW
Whatever, Super Mario World. I tried extending the olive branch and being nice, but you're apparently too self-important to accept it. File the post I quoted as one of you being disrespectful without provocation.

Whatever, Super Mario World. I tried extending the olive branch and being nice, but you're apparently too self-important to accept it. File the post I quoted as one of you being disrespectful without provocation.

Filed as requested, sir. Guess you've redefined the term 'disrespectful' to mean anything that doesn't cater to your needy little ego.

See ya 'round the hood, Boy Wonder!

;)
SMW

Filed as requested, sir. Guess you've redefined the term 'disrespectful' to mean anything that doesn't cater to your needy little ego.
Or perhaps when you called me stupid, but I'm sure that's not "disrespectful" to you. Do you even bother to think about what you post before you hit Submit?

She consults her goat. Repeatedly.

Or perhaps when you called me stupid, but I'm sure that's not "disrespectful" to you. Do you even bother to think about what you post before you hit Submit?

I don't remember ever calling you stupid, Borg. Would you mind showing me where I said that to you?

I don't remember ever calling you stupid, Borg. Would you mind showing me where I said that to you?
I was talking about the post you just made, but I'll bite on posting the last time you actually used the word stupid, just because I think it's hilarious.

"What is it your profile says, "I'm a liberal atheist student?" That's an oxymoron for 'I'm too stupid to think for myself, so I'll just follow popular trends with my classmates'."

I was talking about the post you just made, but I'll bite on posting the last time you actually used the word stupid, just because I think it's hilarious.

"What is it your profile says, "I'm a liberal atheist student?" That's an oxymoron for 'I'm too stupid to think for myself, so I'll just follow popular trends with my classmates'."

I didn't call you STUPID in the last post I made. If you have to exaggerate to make your point, you've already lost the argument... now what brilliant man said that?

Sorry, I stand by the one you did find. I didn't call you anything... the reference was made simply to point out how little thought it takes to follow the crowd. Actually, I remember when I wrote that line, I intended to say, "That's an oxymoron for "I'm stupid" and was intended for your friend OD as well. So I got a little carried away.

Don't be so sensitive, Borg. It's a tough world out there. Sorry if I hurt your widdle fewins. I'll try to refrain from using that word in the future if it upsets you so much.

:flowers:
SMW

This thread kinda reminds me of a song I know...


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Whenever someone shows SMW that she was rude without being provoked she says, "Don't be so sensitive" or "So, I got a little carried away!". As to try and justify what she did and make it seem like no big deal.

I guess she has an excuse for every insult she makes. But of course, all of our insults are wrong and disrespectful.

Bottom line: She's a hypocrite (SMW can be rude AND mean, but no one else can. Pathetic.)

You get treated how you treat others -- no matter how old you are. So stop with the excuses for your behaviour and take responsibility for your actions. Your insults are just as wrong as ours.

Whenever someone shows SMW that she was rude without being provoked she says, "Don't be so sensitive" or "So, I got a little carried away!". As to try and justify what she did and make it seem like no big deal.

I guess she has an excuse for every insult she makes. But of course, all of our insults are wrong and disrespectful.

Bottom line: She's a hypocrite (SMW can be rude AND mean, but no one else can. Pathetic.)

You get treated how you treat others -- no matter how old you are. So stop with the excuses for your behaviour and take responsibility for your actions. Your insults are just as wrong as ours.

See TF's song above for my sentiments, OD. You're a silly little drama queen with no class and I have no further desire to discuss ANYTHING with you. (BTW, you deserve that insult since you called me a rude, mean, pathetic hypocrite. If you can't stand the heat, stay outta the kitchen, sonny.)

:)
SMW

Can't be MY goat, Mikey... I already told you that I never divulge where I keep it tied up so nobody can get it!


that's not your dress?:confused:

that's not your dress?:confused:

Hmmmm, on closer inspection... YES, THAT IS MY DRESS!! Is that you or Fool wearing it???

:mad:

Don't let the children get you down, SmartMouthWoman. Borg is acting like a little brat, pposting as if he is somehow superior to you and other posters. He decries your lack of respect for him while exhibiting a total lack of respec for others. This is not the first time Borg has depicted himself as above the fray and I doubt it will be the last.

Overdose is just being overdose, a whiney little drama queen.

At least Borg usually adds something worthwhile to the conversation. Overdose doesn't even do that. His total contributions consist of whining whining, whining.

Don't let the children get you down, SmartMouthWoman. Borg is acting like a little brat, pposting as if he is somehow superior to you and other posters. He decries your lack of respect for him while exhibiting a total lack of respec for others. This is not the first time Borg has depicted himself as above the fray and I doubt it will be the last.
I tried to make peace with her, Frogger, and she categorically refused it. What, exactly, do you propose I do further? Call her "ma'am" and beg for forgiveness while she continues to call me "stupid" and insinuate that she's the most superior person on Allforums? The person who is lacking in respect is not me, and I think her and my respective actions bear that out.