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cranston36
02-10-2008, 08:41 AM
Senator Barack Husein Obama’s father is from Kenya.
His name was Husein Obama.
He was a member of the Luo tribe.
The Luo or Lwo are a family of linguistically affiliated ethnic groups who live in an area that stretches from the southern Sudan, through northern Uganda and eastern Congo (DRC). During their history they were at one time one of the main tribes to enslave and sell their neighbors into slavery to the whites or to the Arabs - whoever was closest and had the most money.
Specifically Barack Husein Obama’s tribe is the Joluo and his father was a nationally known political agitator.
Even though Husein Obama Senior was politically active the Luo tribe in Kenya took a back seat during the years of conflict for independence from Britain. The preferred to leave their fighting to others.
After Kenya gained its independence it became one of the exceptions to the rule in Africa.
Being a liberated colony the new leadership took power with little or no violence and maintained order for nearly forty years.
During this time Kenya became one of the most powerful and richest black African nations. Many people look to Kenya in the east, Nigeria to the west and South Africa in the south to form the basis of a triangle of peace and prosperity.
Kenya was able to put a controlling pressure on Uganda during the violent years of Idi Amin Dada’s rule. It was Kenya, it was hoped, that could lead the way to stop the genocide in the Sudan.
Recall that the Luo tribe, of whom Barack Husein Obama claims for his own, live throughout southern Sudan - the location of the atrocities against mankind.
Barack Husein Obama is a mystery to me but I do know that within 6 months of his visit to Kenya on August 26, 2006 the country has been teetering toward madness. His family in Kenya has been catapulted again into the public eye in Kenya. From the way they are acting it is as if the Luo people are expecting something that is not clear to the rest of us.
This much is clear - after the last election President Mwai Kibaki became president of Kenya.
Raila Odinga, his opponent and a radical, whose son, by the way, is named Fidel Odinga after Fidel Castro, did not like the result of the election and began to protest it.
His followers became violent.
Protests turned into riots.
Many people were killed and some of President Kibaki’s supporters, in towns where they were outnumbered, began take refuge in Christian churches.
Some of the churches were burned down.
One of them - the Kenya Assemblies of God was surrounded by a screaming mob of political maniacs and set ablaze with women and children inside. Twenty-five children were burned to death along with four elderly people.
The religion of the Luo for some time had been animism. That is, they believe in spirits and such. These days, however, the Luo are muslims. So what happened to the Kenya Assemblies of God was a crime of religious hatred but not only that it was an act of ethnic cleansing. In fact the Luo seem intent on driving out every other tribe or anyone different from them as soon as they can.
What is it they want?
As in Sudan there are large stores of untapped oil, gas and minerals. By driving off their rivals and putting one of their own in power they could hope to cement their power and increase their role in the Muslim world.
After the election Senator Barack Husein Obama according to his spokesman called Raila Odinga "to express grave concern over the election outcome" of the election.
Then Barack Husein Obama went off to an election rally of his own in New Hampshire to run for President of the United States and he apparently breathed not a word about the murderous and maniacal actions the followers of one of his friends had just carried out.
When asked what the platform of his campaign was (and continues to be even after he lost the election) Odinga says, “My platform is change.”
The first thing he wants to change in Kenya is the Constitution.
Says Odinga, “…we ran on a platform of change.”
Obama’s platform, according to his ‘official’ website is : “It’s about change.”
There you have it.

The questions remain :
What is Barack Husein Obama - a Senator from Illinois - doing when he is interacting with a violent rebel, muslim leader in Kenya who may have been responsible for the murder of dozens of innocent people burned to death simply because they took refuge in a church?
What is Barack Husein Obama doing when he interferes in the internal operations of a foreign nation like Kenya?
Are you going to let a well organized and well financed representative of a foreign government push his way any further into your national government?
How many more people have to die before Americans come to understand that Barack Husein Obama is not a product of the land of Lincoln?
Born in Hawaii he spent most of his life in the violent and backward nation of Indonesia – where not too long ago the Australians had to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians in East Timor.
When will this blood soaked travesty of our national political system come to an end? When will the mocking smirk of our enemies be wiped from our television screens?
Change they want? With the gun? With the torch?

LionelHutz
02-10-2008, 10:21 AM
Wow, there's some tenuous threads to stitch together.

BorgHunter
02-10-2008, 11:27 AM
Wow, there's some tenuous threads to stitch together.
You can usually identify this new breed of paranoid Obama crackpots by their frequent use of his middle name.

DarkFantasy96
02-10-2008, 11:41 AM
Are you going to let a well organized and well financed representative of a foreign government push his way any further into your national government?
A representative of a foreign government?? :lolhit:
How many more people have to die before Americans come to understand that Barack Husein Obama is not a product of the land of Lincoln?
How many people has Barack Obama killed? :confused:
Born in Hawaii he spent most of his life in the violent and backward nation of Indonesia – where not too long ago the Australians had to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians in East Timor.
According to Wikipedia, he spent 4 years in Indonesia - from ages 6 to 10. That's hardly "most of his life". That's like saying most of my life was the years before I started kindergarten.

Jester
02-10-2008, 12:33 PM
Well here's one thread that deserves a :rolleyes:.

cranston36
02-10-2008, 03:37 PM
Wow, there's some tenuous threads to stitch together.

What is stitched together?
Why don't you tell us what Barack Husein Obama is doing interacting with a guy like Raila Odinga? He's not the legitimate president of Kenya and yet he and his followers have killed a lot of people including women and children.

Is that what we can expect from this "Swahili-Indonesian-Africa-American-not quite a muslim but goes to a Christian church" candidate if he and his followers don't get what they want? I am sure not - but - really - what is the point of your statement?

Are you imputing that questions should not be raised and answered about Barack Husein Obama?

If so - why shouldn't questions be raised?

Very often I have encountered followers and supporters of Barack Husein Obama replying to questions or criticisms about him with shouts of 'ludicrous, ridiculous, incomprehensible'. It is a simple bullying tactic but I really must insist on someone answering - what is Barack Husein Obama doing interfering in the internal governance of a foreign nation?

Doesn't he have enough work to do in the Senate or running for President of the United States?

Also this I ask - what is 'tenuous' about the fact that Raila Odinga named his son after Fidel Castro?

cranston36
02-10-2008, 03:45 PM
To 'DarkFantasy96'

"A representative of a foreign government?? "

He is representing someone when he is interacting with Raila Odinga. Who is it? It's not the United States because only the President can act as the official ambassador to foreign nations. That is how our government is set up. Barack Husein Obama may be confused about how we do things. If you would like to check the law I invite you to do so.

"How many people has Barack Obama killed?"

I don't know. Is that a trick question? The points in the piece have to deal with the continued strife in Africa in general and Kenya in particular. If you are not familiar with what is going on in Africa or Kenya you can read up on it. I have business interest in Kenya and Raila Odinga is a problem. His followers are a bunch of murderers.

"According to Wikipedia, he spent 4 years in Indonesia - from ages 6 to 10. That's hardly "most of his life". That's like saying most of my life was the years before I started kindergarten."

That's most of his 'young life'. If you are making political decisions based on information you get from 'Wikipedia' you and I are operating on different levels of understanding and you might be in danger of making a fool of yourself. As for your remark about kindergarten - I suggest you take a look at Piaget's Theory of Cognitive Development.

BorgHunter
02-10-2008, 04:27 PM
Very often I have encountered followers and supporters of Barack Husein Obama replying to questions or criticisms about him with shouts of 'ludicrous, ridiculous, incomprehensible'.
Perhaps because your claims are ludicrous, ridiculous, and incomprehensible? All I can manage to divine from the OP is that you hate Obama because there's some tenuous connection between him and the guy who lost the election in Kenya due to fraud.

Oh, incidentally, you might be slightly more believable if you cut the "Husein" [sic] from your posts. You have, very clearly, a political axe to grind. People like that are inherently untrustworthy, because they're often extremely biased without even realizing it.

mikezila
02-10-2008, 08:05 PM
i thought he went to a baptist church?:confused:

Freethinker
02-10-2008, 09:20 PM
....incidentally, you might be slightly more believable if you cut the "Husein" [sic] from your posts. You have, very clearly, a political axe to grind.

Aw, come on.

Anyone can readily see that because this guy's middle name is Hussein, he must be some sort of closet terrorist. Or something.

[/sarcasm]

LionelHutz
02-10-2008, 09:32 PM
What is stitched together?

You imply lots of things, but there's no connection. Violence broke out six months after Obama was there. You're obviously implying Obama had something to do with it. But what? You don't say.

Why don't you tell us what Barack Husein Obama is doing interacting with a guy like Raila Odinga? He's not the legitimate president of Kenya and yet he and his followers have killed a lot of people including women and children.

Read your own thread. You (or more accurately, whoever wrote the text you pasted in) answers that question.

Is that what we can expect from this "Swahili-Indonesian-Africa-American-not quite a muslim but goes to a Christian church" candidate if he and his followers don't get what they want? I am sure not - but - really - what is the point of your statement?

You'd have to come even slightly close to proving a connection between Obama and the violence before that would even be a legit question.


Are you imputing that questions should not be raised and answered about Barack Husein Obama?

If so - why shouldn't questions be raised?

Because you haven't even proven anything worthy of questioning. Anna Nicole Smith died about a year after I was in the Bahamas. Should I be dragged in for questioning?

Very often I have encountered followers and supporters of Barack Husein Obama replying to questions or criticisms about him with shouts of 'ludicrous, ridiculous, incomprehensible'. It is a simple bullying tactic but I really must insist on someone answering - what is Barack Husein Obama doing interfering in the internal governance of a foreign nation?

I am neither a follower or a supporter of Obama. As for your second question, it appears he's appealing for peace.


Doesn't he have enough work to do in the Senate or running for President of the United States?

I'm sure making that phone call didn't tax his calendar too much.

Also this I ask - what is 'tenuous' about the fact that Raila Odinga named his son after Fidel Castro?

Nothing. But it doesn't have a damn thing to do with Obama.

paulc
02-10-2008, 11:21 PM
Do I detect some character assassination of a candidate who isnt a member of the military party.

Freethinker
02-11-2008, 02:31 AM
Do I detect some character assassination of a candidate who isnt a member of the military party.

No........in terms of militarism and U.S. foreign policy as it regards keeping the immense juggernaut of the "defense" budget rolling along, Obama is little different than Hillary Clinton or G. W. B*sh or McCain.

The ceaseless criticisms of Obama that you'll hear are rooted more in the perception being pushed (a false one, btw) that he is far more "liberal" than his opponents in either party......or that he is some sort of wild eyed "leftist" out to shake up the system or to change it.

He is a Corporatist, just like every other candidate who has the slightest chance of being elected.

Jester
02-11-2008, 02:55 AM
Do I detect some character assassination of a candidate who isnt a member of the military party.
Cranston just comes up with some crackpot theories every now and then. I remember some time ago when he claimed that Kurds were devil worshippers. Apparently, Obama is his latest subject.

Evakian
02-11-2008, 08:39 AM
Senator Barack Husein Obama’s father is from Kenya.
His name was Husein Obama.
HOLY SHIT!

I think I have to vote Republican now!

:o