URGENT ACTION ALERT FROM BORN FREE FOUNDATIAN:

The United States government is considering allowing the states of Washington, Oregon and possibly even California to begin hunting and mass killing seals and sea lions. The reason: because fighting boats are not getting enough salmon. They believe that the orcas, seals, and sea lions are eating all the fish. Since orcas are endangered in the USA, innocent seals and sea lions, who are just trying to stay alive, will now be killed!

please stop this madness before it starts! visit:
http://www.api4animals.org/actionalerts.php?p=1489&more=1

THIS SITE ALSO PROVIDES US WITH MORE INFORMATION AND POINTS AS TO WHY WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

If they are killing and eating too many salmon they should be culled.

i say that fishing in the oceans should be cut back anyway. humans are directly or indirectly depleting the oceans as it is.
cull some seals, etc.. cut the population to some degree, but not an open season kill for all. and EAT them. people who kill for the fuck of it, are insane AND stupid.

If they are killing and eating too many salmon they should be culled.

Does that apply to humans also?

Classic greed. Human fishers hunt salmon to near extinction, then start killing seals because their takes aren't quite what they should be.

Yeah, Frogger, you care real hard.

Twp dumb statements to respond to at once.

No, it does not apply to humans who eat salmon, American. While I agree with primitive man that people are overfishing certain species and that over fishing should be stopped, suggesting killing people who eat salmon is an unbeliveably stupid thing to say or to even suggest.

Nappy is again being his usual self, making statements about how other people don't care simply because they see things differently than he does. He did it in the thread talking about DDT too. He is simply showing his immaturity, the same immaturity that caused him to quit the service, quit college and quit almost every job he has ever held. way to go, Nappy. Stay true to form.

Nappy is again being his usual self, making statements about how other people don't care simply because they see things differently than he does. He did it in the thread talking about DDT too. He is simply showing his immaturity, the same immaturity that caused him to quit the service, quit college and quit almost every job he has ever held. way to go, Nappy. Stay true to form.
Such an amazing retort. Go eat your salmon, Frogger. And see if you can find seal steaks to throw on the barbie as well.

Salmon is delicious.

That it is. Good thing we have salmon farms.

I don't eat salmon other than a little lox on a bagel once in awhile. I don't like the taste of it, too fishy.

That does not mean I cannot understand the culling of seals and sea lions if they are destroying too many salmon. I would lessen the numbers of salmon predators the same way I would lessen the numbers of wolves if they were killing too many sheep or calves. It doesn't mean I hate wolves any more than I hate seals or sea lions. It only means we are competing for the same resource.

It happens all the time in nature. Lions and hyneas compete for the same prey animals so when they come across each other they try to kill each other so as to get rid of a competitor. The seals and sea lions are competing with us for a limited resource. We either cull them or watch the salmon numbers plummet.

That does not mean I cannot understand the culling of seals and sea lions if they are destroying too many salmon.
We can farm salmon, seals and sea lions cannot. Humans are a much bigger threat to salmon than seals ever were. That you would kill seals and sea lions rather than regulate human fishers if salmon populations are dwindling speaks to greed, not understanding.

A six year old kid wanted to play with the ball I was playing with yesterday. He wouldn't stop grabbing for it. So I shot him.

URGENT ACTION ALERT FROM BORN FREE FOUNDATIAN:

The United States government is considering allowing the states of Washington, Oregon and possibly even California to begin hunting and mass killing seals and sea lions. The reason: because fighting boats are not getting enough salmon. They believe that the orcas, seals, and sea lions are eating all the fish. Since orcas are endangered in the USA, innocent seals and sea lions, who are just trying to stay alive, will now be killed!

please stop this madness before it starts! visit:
http://www.api4animals.org/actionalerts.php?p=1489&more=1

THIS SITE ALSO PROVIDES US WITH MORE INFORMATION AND POINTS AS TO WHY WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
why should Greenpeace have all the fun?

http://www.healthcastle.com/farmed-salmon.shtml

Nappy,

Continue eating your farmed salmon. I think I'll stick with wild salmon.

Healthcastle.com recently received numerous questions regarding the safety of farmed salmon and PCBs. On one hand, the American Heart Association recommends eating fish/salmon and their products to prevent heart disease. On the other hand, recent media reported that some fish and farmed salmon contain toxic substances. We will discuss a few major reports and some background information about farmed salmon and PCBs so that you can make a sound decision.

What are PCBs?
Polychlorinated biphenyls PCBs are mixtures of up to 209 individual chlorinated compounds (known as congeners). There are no known natural sources of PCBs. PCBs are either oily liquids or solids that are colorless to light yellow. PCBs have been used as coolants and lubricants in transformers, capacitors, and other electrical equipment because they don't burn easily and are good insulators. The manufacture of PCBs was stopped in the U.S. in 1977 because of evidence they build up in the environment and can cause harmful health effects. However, PCBs persist in the environment. Fish absorb PCBs from contaminated sediments and from their food.

Farmed Salmon have always been under the gun
David Suzuki Foundation: In January 2001, BBC News produced a program "Warnings from the Wild, The Price of Salmon". The program cited a pilot study conducted by Dr Easton with David Suzuki Foundation. The study found that farmed salmon and the feed they were fed appeared to have a much higher level of contamination with respect to PCBs, organo-chlorine pesticides and polybrominated diphenyl ethers than did wild salmon. It concluded that it seems that contamination in farm fish comes from the feed.
EWG Report: In July 2003, the Environmental Working Group EWG released a report stating that farmed salmon purchased in the United States contain the highest level of PCBs in the food supply system. In the report, EWG reported that farmed salmon have 16 times PCBs found in wild salmon, 4 times the levels in beef, and 3.4 times the levels in other seafood. EWG recommends that consumers choose wild instead of farmed salmon, and they should eat an 8 oz serving of farmed salmon no more than once a month.
Science Journal: In January 2004, the journal Science warned that farmed salmon contain 10 times more toxins (PCBs, dioxin, etc.) than wild salmon. The study recommends that farmed salmon should be eaten once a month, perhaps every two months as they pose cancer risks to the human beings.
Why do Farmed Salmon contain more PCBs than Wild Salmon?
Fishmeal/Feed: Studies found that the fishmeal fed to farmed salmon is highly contaminated with PCBs
Farmed salmon are "fatter": Farmed salmon are generally bigger in size and contain more fat than wild salmon. PCBs are stored in fat and remain there for an extended period of time, therefore farmed salmon contain more PCBs.
Government Guidelines on PCBs?
The average level of PCBs in salmon is 0.027 ppm (parts per million)

FDA: The current FDA limit of PCBs in all fish is 2 ppm
Health Canada: The current Health Canada's guideline for PCBs in fish is 2 ppm.
EPA: The Environmental Protection Agency guideline on PCBs is much stricter. They recommend that fish with PCBs level between 0.024 to 0.048 ppm should be eaten 8 oz a month.
What does this means? There is an obvious discrepancy in the limit set by various health agencies. Dr Mark Woodin of Tufts University noted that even if the strict EPA guidelines were known to be the right ones, they are based on the amount of PCBs that are thought to be capable of causing one additional cancer case in 100,000 people over a 70-year lifetime.

Key Message: So don't give up fish and salmon completely. It is a known fact that fish and salmon offer benefits in heart health. The benefits to heart health may outweigh the risk of getting cancer from eating farmed salmon. Choose a variety of fish and include them in a healthy well-balanced diet and practise the following:

Trim the skin and the visible fat as PCBs are store in the fat portion
Prepare your salmon to reduce a significant portion of fat such as grilling and broiling
Try canned salmon as almost all of them are wild salmon


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We might as well make good of this hunting situation.

"Two all seal patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun"

Your idea has my seal of approval, Evakian.

i say that fishing in the oceans should be cut back anyway. humans are directly or indirectly depleting the oceans as it is.
cull some seals, etc.. cut the population to some degree, but not an open season kill for all. and EAT them. people who kill for the ---- of it, are insane AND stupid.
We are also destroying the coral reefs, at an alarmingly high rate.
Edit: My teacher says for me to include that this is also partly due to climate change.
And cutting back on fishing won't help much either.

I dont eat Salmon-it makes me sick.

However, I believe that Salmon Farming is dangerous and wild Salmon would be first choice.

But alas as there are about 7 wild Salmon left in the North Atlantic, it doesnt really matter.

So, whats the craic with seal-I would have thought they were a bit chewy.

Does that apply to humans also?


don't rule it out. if one day there ain't nothing else to eat, if you can't run faster than me, it's fred on the barbie special.

but i think a good open season on some people would actually be a good thing once in a while.

http://www.healthcastle.com/farmed-salmon.shtml

Nappy,

Continue eating your farmed salmon. I think I'll stick with wild salmon.

We can farm better salmon, dumbshit. It's called science. Maybe you've heard of it.

i say that fishing in the oceans should be cut back anyway. humans are directly or indirectly depleting the oceans as it is.
cull some seals, etc.. cut the population to some degree, but not an open season kill for all. and EAT them. people who kill for the fuck of it, are insane AND stupid.
i agree with you.the thing is THEY arent the one s taking OUR fish.we are taking theirs.the seals kill the fish one by one,we mass kill them.canada hunts seals mainly for their fur (baby seals in fact) and leave the rest so it either is eaten by birds (unlikely) or goes to waste.a terrible loss.and those are babies.now the us is allowed to kill adults and babies alike!!!

i quote hectori12 from youtube:


"We all live under the same sun... although, some people might not act like we do.

Every year billions of animals suffer because of us. Billions of animals that don't get to see the light of day, feel the warmth of the sun.
For some animals, the first time they see the sun is when they are being moved to a slaughterhouse. It is their first and last time.

Our way of life - the very fabric of society - is based on cruel and inhumane treatment of animals. Billions of animals die for food, "science", sport, clothes and entertainment.
We as the human race should have advanced beyond profiting from animal misery and suffering - or maybe we aren't as civilised as we claim to be."

I don't know that harming animals is uncivilized. It's unkind, sure.

I don't know that harming animals is uncivilized. It's unkind, sure.
it's more the how & why...putting a steel pin in a cow's forhead for food is one thing, chasing down the cow in a jeep in the middle of the night, shooting it with a bow, kicking it, and leaving it to bleed to death is just evil.

any mass fishing or other hunting/ fishing techniques need to be regulated so that depletion is not a problem.
with over fishing, and THEN pollution , you have to back off. man has always seen other predators as a competitive and regarded as a nuisance.
killing baby seal for fur is fine, but they shouldn't waste the flesh. something can be done with it. this reminds me of the mass buffalo killings in the past. (did you now there WAS an eastern woodland buffalo?). they cut out only what they want, take the hide and waste the rest. this is ONLY caused by greed. nothing more. subsistance hunting does not waste, or very little is wasted.
make beef meat more ethical. stop babying the damn things, start hunting them, put the fear of death in them, and see if they go wild. or just release the buffalo back. better than nailing a cow between the eyes with a bolt , that has been kept tame and passive.
did you know the state of west virginia holds wolves and cougars as a protected species, but if found in the state, they are either killed or trapped and transported elsewhere?
in this state the deer population is now uncontrolled.
they quote billions sold in equipment and licenses every year. but the majority of hunters use only 2-7 days to hunt. in that time period they may kill 2 deer maximum.
the deer herd continues to grow. and CWD has popped up in the state, (hampshire county).
you tell me if people know what the fuck they are doing trying to "control" wildlife, wildplaces, etc., in an intelligent way at all?

Such an amazing retort. Go eat your salmon, Frogger. And see if you can find seal steaks to throw on the barbie as well.

I wonder what seal would taste like. Has anyone tried it?

I've posted this joke on this site before, but here we go again, the old so and so walks into a bar format.




"A baby seal walks into a club."

I wonder what seal would taste like. Has anyone tried it?

I've posted this joke on this site before, but here we go again, the old so and so walks into a bar format.




"A baby seal walks into a club."
a baby seal sits down at a bar and the bartender asks him "what'll have?"

"anything but a Canadian Club"

We can farm better salmon, dumbshit. It's called science. Maybe you've heard of it.

Gee, Nappy, it seems the poorer your argument the more personal your insults.

Gee, Nappy, it seems the poorer your argument the more personal your insults.
"Dumbshit." Yeah, that's real personal.