Anyone who can forgive someone who humiliated her in front of the whole world as her husband did when he had his infamous blowjob/affair must be a special person.

I am sure that if she can forget about that and say it didn't matter, then she will bring home the troops from Iraq and forgive the people there for doing what they did to the US people....... whatever that was, I can't remember right now, even if I knew in the first place, but I am sure it was something.

....whatever that was, I can't remember right now, even if I knew in the first place, but I am sure it was something.
It's a total unknown what she will do since she changes her mind to suit public opinion.

Also, I am asking your permission to use your above statement as my signature line. I'm not making fun of it, I just love the way it sounds.

OK Brooks, feel free to use it.

Thanks. I like it because I know exactly what you mean, but you worded it better than I could have.

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America persons want t o stop war in Irak for longtime. i dont think Hillary will do this.
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I am sure that if (Hillary) can forget about that and say it didn't matter, then she will bring home the troops from Iraq.....

Sorry to break it to you arrondee, buuuuuut.......

...both Hillary and Obama are good and obedient little Corporate toadies, and neither of them is about to "bring the troops home" from Iraq and kill the cash cow for the huge Corporate contributors who pay for the politicians to be put in office..........companies like Halliburton, Bechtel, Dresser, General Electric, Raytheon, et al.

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In the long and harrowing national nightmare we presently find ourselves trapped in a filthy brand of governance has emerged, entrenching itself deep into our society with its claws of violence and destruction. It is a government devoid of honor or integrity, living, breathing and spewing lies and deceits, exploiting fear and insecurity to achieve its goals and manipulating an entire nation suffering through its post 9/11 insecurity and slumber into blindly following its evil dictates.________Manuel Valenzuela -- http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/

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Hillary Will End the War in Iraq

Don't hold your breath.

Anyone who can forgive someone who humiliated her in front of the whole world as her husband did when he had his infamous blowjob/affair must be a special person.


No. (And you are being conspicuously-naive.)
She's a liar and a morally-bankrupt person, and she didn't have to 'forgive' him for the blowjobs.
According to every surviving member of their former inner circle, she's known about his infidelities and arrogant, indifferent inclination toward sexual assaults since day one.

She's in a marriage of political convenience, and she doesn't give two rats asses about who Bill sticks his dick into.
As long as he smiles for the camera, and helps her to maintain her power base, then all is right with the world for Hillary Clinton.

She's a contemptible, sorry excuse for a human being.
You can vote for her if you want, but just admit to yourself that you are voting for the illusion of Hillary Clinton that her political machine has sold you on, not the real 'person'.

It seems Sparky has been brainwashed to hate Mrs. Clinton by what the right wing machine has said about her for years. Usually when the right wing hates someone they swift boat them into oblivion, but yet Hillary Clinton is still here and still very successful -- much to their dismay.

If a man were to be as strong and passionate as Hillary Clinton, he'd be prasied for being so determined -- while Hillary Clinton is considered to be "calculating" and "robotic".

Sad.

Originally Posted by arrondee
Anyone who can forgive someone who humiliated her in front of the whole world as her husband did when he had his infamous blowjob/affair must be a special person.

No.

Well gaaaawd-daaaayuum. There is your definitive refutation then.

"No".

Case fucking closed, I guess. :rolleyes:


She's a liar and a morally-bankrupt person

I tend to agree. (note; for the record, I seriously doubt that there is a politician alive on this planet who has not told a lie at some time. )

Although lying about whether or not you knew about your spouse's sexual indiscretions seems just a wee bit less serious and momentous than lying to an entire nation (as the leader of the Repukelicans did) in order to foment a WAR that you were desperate to get started.

....and she didn't have to 'forgive' him for the blowjobs.

Wow! You really racked up some serious debate points with that meaningless comment. :rolleyes:


According to every surviving member of their former inner circle, she's known about his infidelities and arrogant, indifferent inclination toward sexual assaults since day one.

Oh no!!! The fiend!!!! She knew about his infidelities....the horror...oh, the horror!!!!

She's in a marriage of political convenience, and she doesn't give two rats asses about who Bill sticks his dick into.

You might be right.

(As if I or anyone else ought to give a fuck what their own personal arrangement is.)

As long as he smiles for the camera, and helps her to maintain her power base, then all is right with the world for Hillary Clinton.


Uhhhhhh. Ok.


She's a contemptible, sorry excuse for a human being.

Due to her vote to support the war in Iraq, I would tend to agree. But wait!!!....she was going along with the RightWing in doing so.

If your position is that ALL of the fucking scumbags on the Right who voted for the Iraq war are ""contemptible, sorry excuses for human beings"", then put me down as in complete agreement with you.

Oh wait!! It's no doubt only the evil witch Hillary who deserves that epithet.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

You can vote for her if you want, but just admit to yourself that you are voting for the illusion of Hillary Clinton that her political machine has sold you on, not the real 'person'.

Well gee whiz. <sigh>

I guess not everyone can be a "real person" like G.W. B*sh.

:rolleyes:

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Its kinda difficult for Hilary Clinton to forget about her husband and Lewinsky when people keep bringing up the subject.

Just goes to show, with her credentials of being a liar,if she were a Republican she wud have been President long long ago.

No wait, does she write blank cheques for the Pentagon-maybe not.

.....with her credentials of being a liar,if she were a Republican she wud have been President long long ago.

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Excellent point.

No wait, does she write blank cheques for the Pentagon---

She will as soon as she's elected. Never doubt that for one instant.

and so continues the militaristic march forward of the United States.

I wonder if there is any politician standing for election who has the balls to change the direction the nation is going.

and so continues the militaristic march forward of the United States.

I wonder if there is any politician standing for election who has the balls to change the direction the nation is going.

Yes. One.

Exactly ONE.

His name is Brian Moore, and I will be voting for him.

http://www.votebrianmoore.com/

Key issues;

1) Stop the Iraq War, bring the troops home immediately.

2) Implement a national health care system, single payer form.

3) Design and Initiate a guaranteed income for all American families, working or not.

4) Cap and REDUCE corporate profits and executive salary levels WHILE FOSTERING THE TRANSFER OF CORPORATE PRODUCTION AND SERVICE, AND OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL TO ITS WORKERS.

5) Mandate labor union representation for all American workers to assure fair salaries and equal benefits.

6) Implement a national housing plan for all Americans.

7) Encourage fair trade over free trade and stop America's participation in NAFTA, CAFTA, WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION, WORLD BANK, IMF, etc.

8) Stop the gouging and ripoffs of consumers by legislating limits and caps for costs in services and products in the market place.

9) Abolish poverty in all its forms in America by assuring every American family with the basics in income, health, education and housing.

10) Promote a more equitable society by enhancing citizens rights and participatory control while requiring the private sector to practice and implement a fairer economic system of consumer costs, profit-margins and regulation and policing of its services and products.

11) Reduce Defense spending significantly in the areas of high tech and military equipment and weaponry while enhancing protections and benefits for the common soldier.

12) Reinforce and enhance government support of the arts, sports and culture.

13) Respect and assure the equal rights of all citizens, whether it be in the area of gender, race, age, sexual preference or religion. Eliminate special priviliges for any and all interest groups.

14) Promote universal access to education on the college and vocational school level. Promote liberal arts, along with engineering and science, in colleges and universities. Remove the influence of corporate and military entities on our higher institutes of learning.

15) Promote and enhance a multi-party system, public and fair access to debates and public funding of elections.

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(issue # 11 being of the utmost importance in my view)

Nice sentiments, all.
If you’ll allow me, I would like to comment on a few of Mr. Moore’s platform items.

1) Stop the Iraq War, bring the troops home immediately.
I agree with ending the Iraq war, and indeed the ending of all wars.
Bringing troops home immediately however is a pipe dream, a strategic impossibility, and (unfortunately) a convenient political promise & mantra for those hoping to get elected by the naïve and uninformed.

3) Design and Initiate a guaranteed income for all American families, working or not.
I wholeheartedly support this. I have been working nearly all my life, and I sure would like to kick back for the next thirty years or so and have others pay my bills for me.

4) Cap and REDUCE corporate profits and executive salary levels WHILE FOSTERING THE TRANSFER OF CORPORATE PRODUCTION AND SERVICE, AND OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL TO ITS WORKERS.
Interesting. Government interference in private business.
Shall we issue jackboots & side arms to the Government thugs who will be marching into the boardrooms and overseeing all this transferring of wealth to the poor, huddled masses?

5) Mandate labor union representation for all American workers to assure fair salaries and equal benefits.
MANDATE unions onto the entire workforce?
Goodness, how are the workers going to get anything done if they are having to rush off to all these Government-mandated union meetings? Will we all have to swear some kind of oath of allegiance and servitude to the Uber-Union?

6) Implement a national housing plan for all Americans.
Wait. You already solved that one with bullet #3. If all Americans get a guaranteed income, whether they work or not, doesn’t it follow that the new Government would use the actual working Americans income to purchase houses for those who choose not to work?

9) Abolish poverty in all its forms in America by assuring every American family with the basics in income, health, education and housing.
Man, you’re wearing me out.
#3 is the catch-all answer to this one too. Take the money from those who wish to go to work, and have the jackbooted Government Uber-Union thugs apportion it to those who don’t choose to work. Government money is Government money. Use it to house everybody, educate them, feed them, and to provide them free health care.
Question though; Who gets priority for classroom space at the University, and who goes to the front of the line at the Socialized Government Hospitals? The people who choose to work, or the people who do not care to work, but want all the benefits?

11) Reduce Defense spending significantly in the areas of high tech and military equipment and weaponry while enhancing protections and benefits for the common soldier.
I agree with looking out for the common soldier, but you must understand that equipping them with the latest high-tech equipment and weaponry is the most important form of protection and security for them. A first-rate fighting force deserves first-rate equipment and weapons. If you face a foe who is flying superior helicopters and jets, operating superior ships and submarines, and who is firing superior weapons at you, you are guaranteed to lose.

12) Reinforce and enhance government support of the arts, sports and culture.
Agreed. Unlimited NFL access for everyone.
(Why should just those who are willing to pay for DirecTV’s Sunday Ticket get to view all the good games?)

14) Promote universal access to education on the college and vocational school level. Promote liberal arts, along with engineering and science, in colleges and universities. Remove the influence of corporate and military entities on our higher institutes of learning.
You are well on your way, bub.

15) Promote and enhance a multi-party system, public and fair access to debates and public funding of elections.
I too hate this nations devotion to a tired, stale, counterproductive two-party system. But I don’t believe that any one US President is going to be able to break the status quo. Until a third or fourth party is willing to pony up enough bucks to buy the influence of a sufficient number of power-hungry & money hungry former-Democrats and former-Republicans, we are stuck with what we’ve got.

Until today, I'd never heard of Brian Moore.

Great to know he'll collect at least 2 votes in his bid for the Oval Office - his own and Freethinkers'.

Yes. One.

Exactly ONE.

His name is Brian Moore, and I will be voting for him.
You forgot Ron Paul. :)

I would suggest that neither will be elected. Its down to four as of now, unless Mr Huckabee comes strong, which I cant see.

Man, you’re wearing me out.
#3 is the catch-all answer to this one too. Take the money from those who wish to go to work, and have the jackbooted Government Uber-Union thugs apportion it to those who don’t choose to work.
You're the greatest Sparky! Great dissection.

It's amazing that someone like Freethinker who hates at least half of the people in this country suddenly supports a political platform that relies solely on either people unquestioningly and unselfishly working for others or strict government thug enforcement.

I would suggest that neither will be elected. Its down to four as of now, unless Mr Huckabee comes strong, which I cant see.
The Republican nomination is wide open. With the huge spread of states on Super Tuesday, it is now extremely difficult for any candidate to get up to the required number of delegates. Therefore the nomination will be decided at the convention in September, and will not necessarily go to the person who seems to have the most delegates.

The Republican nomination is wide open. With the huge spread of states on Super Tuesday, it is now extremely difficult for any candidate to get up to the required number of delegates. Therefore the nomination will be decided at the convention in September, and will not necessarily go to the person who seems to have the most delegates.
not quite, McCain is clearly ahead in the delegate count. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_delegate_count.html)

Oddly, that website has a different count than others I've seen... Then again, they all seem to be different. The Yahoo Political Dashboard has him at under 700. So it seems to me that these things aren't really clear cut.

Oddly, that website has a different count than others I've seen... Then again, they all seem to be different. The Yahoo Political Dashboard has him at under 700. So it seems to me that these things aren't really clear cut.
it depends a lot on how you count the "super delegates".

You're the greatest Sparky! Great dissection.

Yeah. Just "great".

This one in particular--

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5) Mandate labor union representation for all American workers to assure fair salaries and equal benefits.

"MANDATE unions onto the entire workforce? Goodness, how are the workers going to get anything done if they are having to rush off to all these Government-mandated union meetings? Will we all have to swear some kind of oath of allegiance and servitude to the Uber-Union?"_____Sparky

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--exemplifies well his level of intellect in formulating a response. Sounds like a retort a ten year old might have come up with.

Until today, I'd never heard of Brian Moore.

Great to know he'll collect at least 2 votes in his bid for the Oval Office - his own and Freethinkers'.


Three, Chavez will slip across the border to vote as well.:p

Cause it's working so well everywhere else they've tried it.

Yeah. Just "great".

This one in particular--


Sparky writes very tongue-in-cheek with subtle humor and you wouldn't get it. I don't mean to be insulting because I think you're smart, just totally humorless.

Point is, Brian Moore's "platform" is the most ridiculous, pie-in-the-sky diatribe I've ever heard, even from a D-List candidate.

Sparky writes very tongue-in-cheek with subtle humor and you wouldn't get it. I don't mean to be insulting because I think you're smart, just totally humorless.

I am not humorless at all.

Some people like certain forms of humor while they find other forms to be juvenile or just not funny.

My favorite comedians are those like Dennis Miller and Robin Williams and Mitch Hedberg and George Carlin. More towards the cerebral and the acerbic.

I don't mean to be insulting but Sparky's sense of humor reminds me of someone like Tom Green or Chevy Chase or Carrot Top.......people who possess virtually no comedic wit and who can do little but dress in outlandish clothes and mug for the camera or do some slapstick move or make childish puns or gross out jokes. People who are to me about as funny as a chapped ass.

If we transfer corporate ownership to the workers, what purpose does the union serve?

If we transfer corporate ownership to the workers, what purpose does the union serve?

To help assure fair salaries and equal benefits for the workers.

The fostering of the transfer of corporate production and control to the workers is not something that can happen overnight.

14) Promote universal access to education on the college and vocational school level. Promote liberal arts, along with engineering and science, in colleges and universities. Remove the influence of corporate and military entities on our higher institutes of learning.
What does this guy think people do in college?

What does this guy think people do in college?

Chain yourself to the dean's chair in protest, mostly.

Anyone who can forgive someone who humiliated her in front of the whole world as her husband did when he had his infamous blowjob/affair must be a special person.

I am sure that if she can forget about that and say it didn't matter, then she will bring home the troops from Iraq and forgive the people there for doing what they did to the US people....... whatever that was, I can't remember right now, even if I knew in the first place, but I am sure it was something.

I would point out to you that the "war" (such as it was) in Iraq has been over for years.
It ended when we defeated Saddam's army, toppled his government, occupied the country and installed a new government.
It has been an occupation ever since.

Chain yourself to the dean's chair in protest, mostly.

Yeah.

That's it.

:rolleyes:

1) Stop the Iraq War, bring the troops home immediately.
I agree with ending the Iraq war, and indeed the ending of all wars.
Bringing troops home immediately however is a pipe dream, a strategic impossibility, and (unfortunately) a convenient political promise & mantra for those hoping to get elected by the naïve and uninformed.

Speaking of naive and uninformed... the "war" in Iraq ended years ago. It ended when we defeated Saddam's army, toppled Saddam's government, occupied their country and implimented a new government. It has been an occupation ever since and we cannot occupy them forever. We have to end the occupation and if that means balkanizing Iraq, so be it.


3) Design and Initiate a guaranteed income for all American families, working or not.
I wholeheartedly support this. I have been working nearly all my life, and I sure would like to kick back for the next thirty years or so and have others pay my bills for me.

It does seem like it would create a disincentive to work. I can see such a program being highly productive and helpful even if it were only temporary. It would allow people to get better educated and pursue the jobs they would be happier in. That would cause a reduction in stress levels and the number of incidents of workplace violence.


4) Cap and REDUCE corporate profits and executive salary levels WHILE FOSTERING THE TRANSFER OF CORPORATE PRODUCTION AND SERVICE, AND OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL TO ITS WORKERS.
Interesting. Government interference in private business.
Shall we issue jackboots & side arms to the Government thugs who will be marching into the boardrooms and overseeing all this transferring of wealth to the poor, huddled masses?

*sigh*
Employee ownership is employee "interference", not government.
It is no more government interference than when the government interferes with their laws about how corporations can operate, what currency they can use and what legal remedies they have in case of disputes. I don't hear you complaining about the jackbooted government "thugs" who enforce the laws we already have. Are they only "thugs" when they enforce laws you don't think you would like?


5) Mandate labor union representation for all American workers to assure fair salaries and equal benefits.
MANDATE unions onto the entire workforce?
Goodness, how are the workers going to get anything done if they are having to rush off to all these Government-mandated union meetings? Will we all have to swear some kind of oath of allegiance and servitude to the Uber-Union?

How will they get anything done?
The same way democratic organizations always have... they elect representatives. :rolleyes:



6) Implement a national housing plan for all Americans.
Wait. You already solved that one with bullet #3. If all Americans get a guaranteed income, whether they work or not, doesn’t it follow that the new Government would use the actual working Americans income to purchase houses for those who choose not to work?

Gee, you actually have a real point here.
It does seem unnecessary if there is already a guaranteed income. This would be a good alternative though. I have no problem with government housing for certain people like homeless veterans or the handicapped.


9) Abolish poverty in all its forms in America by assuring every American family with the basics in income, health, education and housing.
Man, you’re wearing me out.
#3 is the catch-all answer to this one too. Take the money from those who wish to go to work, and have the jackbooted Government Uber-Union thugs apportion it to those who don’t choose to work. Government money is Government money. Use it to house everybody, educate them, feed them, and to provide them free health care.

You seem to forget, in a democracy, the "government" is We the People. Why shouldn't we use our money to educate ourselves, feed ourselves and provide ourselves with health care at a better price than the market can offer it?
(For instance, we would save $350 Billion in administrative costs by going to a single payer universal health care system.)



Question though; Who gets priority for classroom space at the University, and who goes to the front of the line at the Socialized Government Hospitals? The people who choose to work, or the people who do not care to work, but want all the benefits?

If you need more space in your classrooms, you expand your classrooms. Hospitals prioritize patients by the severity of their illness or injury.
You should not cut to the "front of the line" in a hospital just because you feel you are less lazy than the person in front of you.


11) Reduce Defense spending significantly in the areas of high tech and military equipment and weaponry while enhancing protections and benefits for the common soldier.
I agree with looking out for the common soldier, but you must understand that equipping them with the latest high-tech equipment and weaponry is the most important form of protection and security for them. A first-rate fighting force deserves first-rate equipment and weapons. If you face a foe who is flying superior helicopters and jets, operating superior ships and submarines, and who is firing superior weapons at you, you are guaranteed to lose.

Right now we spend more on our military than every other industrialized nation in the world combined, yet private mercinary armies like Blackwater have better equipment than our soldiers.

So where is the money going? It certainly isn't going to provide our troops with the best equipment.

There is plenty of room for cutting waste and fraud from our bloated military budget.


12) Reinforce and enhance government support of the arts, sports and culture.
Agreed. Unlimited NFL access for everyone.
(Why should just those who are willing to pay for DirecTV’s Sunday Ticket get to view all the good games?)

I think he was talking more about properly funding those things so our kids can participate. When I was in high school the football program was paid for out of the school budget, but today the parents at my old school have to shell out an extra $500 bucks so their kid can play football. That means poor kids are shut out of participating. That isn't right.


14) Promote universal access to education on the college and vocational school level. Promote liberal arts, along with engineering and science, in colleges and universities. Remove the influence of corporate and military entities on our higher institutes of learning.
You are well on your way, bub.

All good sentiments that I support. You don't seem to have any disagreements with them either, so I will leave it at that.


15) Promote and enhance a multi-party system, public and fair access to debates and public funding of elections.
I too hate this nations devotion to a tired, stale, counterproductive two-party system. But I don’t believe that any one US President is going to be able to break the status quo. Until a third or fourth party is willing to pony up enough bucks to buy the influence of a sufficient number of power-hungry & money hungry former-Democrats and former-Republicans, we are stuck with what we’ve got.

Actually, you would have to amend the Constitution to do away with the electoral college before a third party would really have any chance.

That said, Public funding of elections is the one key reform that makes all other reforms possible. It is the only fix for our broken politcial system that could restore our Democracy from the Corporate Oligarchy it has become.

Speaking of naive and uninformed... the "war" in Iraq ended years ago. It ended when we defeated Saddam's army, toppled Saddam's government, occupied their country and implimented a new government. It has been an occupation ever since and we cannot occupy them forever. We have to end the occupation and if that means balkanizing Iraq, so be it.
Just out of curiousity... why is it so important to you that it be called an occupation instead of a war? It can't be for the sake of clarity, since you already know what the person's talking about when they call it a war.

Just out of curiousity... why is it so important to you that it be called an occupation instead of a war?

Mostly because it is correct.
We won the war in Iraq.
It is now an occupation.

Because you approach an occupation totally differently than you would a war. You use different tactics and have different goals.

There are no "winners" and "losers" in an occupation.
There is just your exit strategy...

...but the ones pushing the "War" frame don't even want to discuss exiting Iraq. They have back-room deals for permanent bases and Bush has said in signing statements that he will ignore laws from Congress that prohibit permanent bases in Iraq. The PNAC have openly advocated for permanent bases in the middle east, specifically Iraq, for years.

It is important to me because we will never make any progress there until we at least start discussing it realistically.

and the reality is, it is an occupation, not a war.

Talking about the occupation in the correct terms changes the entire frame of not only this debate, but other important ones such as "executive privilege". Bush claims that he needs additional "War Powers" because we are supposedly still "at war". Bush claims he needs to violate FISA because we are "at war" and therefore "the stakes are too high to wait for a court." But it doesn't stop there, once he gets an inch, he takes a mile. Bush claims "executive privilege" in ordering two of his underlings not to obey a lawful summons from Congress. Bush also claims "executive privilege" for his signing statements where he has given himself an illegal, unconstitutional new power of line-item veto.

Republicans have become very good at controlling the frame of debates, but in this case they are literally denying the reality of the situation and sadly, many Americans (about 30%) still buy into the "war" frame and many more (especially in the media) are too ignorant or too lazy to reframe it correctly.

1. My favorite comedians are those like Dennis Miller and Robin Williams and Mitch Hedberg .....
2. I don't mean to be insulting but Sparky's sense of humor reminds me of someone like Tom Green or Chevy Chase or Carrot Top........
1. Mitch Hedberg is (was) fantastic. But Robin Williams?

2. I don't agree, but that's funny (I stand corrected, you're funny).

1. Mitch Hedberg is (was) fantastic. But Robin Williams?

Yeah, I was truly floored to learn that Hedberg had died. What a waste.

As to Robin Williams, I know what you're saying.....you tend to think of his teeevee shows like Mork and things like that, and he doesn't seem like much of a comedian at all.

But I saw him live once doing stand-up, concocting this bit that was stream-of-consciousness type stuff............he threw in so many oblique references and double entendres and inventive plays on words, and made everything he was saying cohesive yet wildly disparate at the same time, just in the space of a couple of minutes. It was mind boggling to think of what an intellect it required to put that all together on the spot in front of an audience. He truly does have a tremendous wit and a brain that seems to function at double speed and a sense of the comedic that is awe-inspiring..............

I don't mean to be insulting but Sparky's sense of humor reminds me of someone like Tom Green or Chevy Chase or Carrot Top........
Let's put it this way...listening to you espouse the ideas of yet another 'Mooreon' makes being caught in an elevator with Nathan Lane, Gilbert Gottfried, and Carrot Top look like an attractive alternative. I mean, seriously...face it - you don't like Sparky's humor because a), mysteriously enough, you're usually the target of it, and b) it doesn't jive with your whacked out politics.

BTW, that was possibly...err - scratch that...the MOST ridiculous platform I've ever read in my life.

It was mind boggling to think of what an intellect it required to put that all together on the spot in front of an audience. He truly does have a tremendous wit and a brain that seems to function at double speed and a sense of the comedic that is awe-inspiring..............
Now here, we're in full agreement. I remember having those EXACT same thoughts when I saw him do stand-up 10 or so years ago.

Dharma - Housing for the handicapped and homeless veterans IS a good idea. The homeless are one of my biggest concerns. I can't believe that the government sends all these people off to war and then ignores them when they end up with PTSD, homeless and miserable. Expect to see another big wave of homeless veterans in the next couple decades.

I mean, seriously...face it - you don't like Sparky's humor because a), mysteriously enough, you're usually the target of it, and b) it doesn't jive with your whacked out politics.

"I mean seriously" that I do not like his "humor" because I do not find it humorous. In the slightest. There is no conscious choice involved to find it funny or not find it funny. I just don't find it to be humorous. Period.

Does it demonstrate that he has a sharp intellect, a good imagination and a penchant for writing fictional little vignettes? Absolutely.

I just don't see any humor in it. The fact that I don't has nothing to do with either of our political views.

I just don't see any humor in it. .
Translation: "Needs more fart jokes."

Don't be fooled. Hillary did not forgive Bill. She needs him for political reaons, its that simple.

Hillary will not bring the troops home out of forgivness, it will be for political reasons.


Anyone who can forgive someone who humiliated her in front of the whole world as her husband did when he had his infamous blowjob/affair must be a special person.

I am sure that if she can forget about that and say it didn't matter, then she will bring home the troops from Iraq and forgive the people there for doing what they did to the US people....... whatever that was, I can't remember right now, even if I knew in the first place, but I am sure it was something.

Hillary will not bring the troops home out of forgivness, it will be for political reasons.

I would agree with the first seven words of that statement.

Any candidate who is not dedicated to massive military (over)spending and to ceaseless military interventions overseas will not be allowed anywhere NEAR the reins of power in this country.

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The way you keep the wars coming is to keep the populace in a state of perpetual fear. That allows you to continue the insane feeding of the military/industrial complex at the expense of the rest of the nation's needs.

It's becoming apparent that the only participation Hilary might have in bringing the troops home / ending the war will be as a Senator (if that!) from NY state.