http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/02/national/main3782553.shtml?source=mostpop_story

This is a major crime and news event. Why it is not being covered every minute by our news organizations is beyond me. If the roles were reversed and a white man killed 5 black women, every black American would be marching and protesting the evil white people.

God Bless these women and their families

Wake up America

If the roles were reversed and a white man killed 5 black women, every black American would be marching and protesting the evil white people.
Let me guess: You have "friends who happen to be black", thus you are "not a racist", right?

This is stupid... white women getting murdered is like THE news story. Better if they're young and good looking... Although this is just a "mall shooting", more of a seemingly random attack and therefore less sensational than a kidnapping/murder I suppose. Anyways I have to say that we hear a lot more about white chicks dying than black chicks. Anyone who doesn't think so is a little out of touch with reality. :p

I was reading about this shooting in the Sunday paper, tho they never mentioned the guy was black.

Dont suppose that matters much, as all the rest of the people are still dead.

:(

Dont suppose that matters much, as all the rest of the people are still dead.
If only the OP saw things like that. Instead, he seems to be using this sad event in order to push his racist beliefs. He is, in short, a prick.

But this thread is going to be fun. :corn:

Borg-I would imagine this is THE story in Chicago today.

Borg-I would imagine this is THE story in Chicago today.
I don't pay attention to any local news outlets. I only heard it through Fark. Besides which, this happened in Tinley Park, which is a suburb to the south. And I care about the suburbs about as much as I care about keeping my pubic hair well-trimmed, i.e. not at all.

And I care about the suburbs about as much as I care about keeping my pubic hair well-trimmed, i.e. not at all.
Oh right-you like the shag look for the shag equipment.

And I care about the suburbs about as much as I care about keeping my pubic hair well-trimmed, i.e. not at all.

Showing how you don't care about 5 women murdered senselessly makes you the prick and not me fella. Nice name calling though by the way.

Good pubic hair reference too. I'm guesing you got all the class in the world.

Here's 2 last things for you.

I posted a fact about a news event. You posted an opinion. Get over yourself I care about what you say as much as I care about my pubs or w/e dumb thing you said before.

Eggs, you also posted an opinion. Is there something wrong with opinions?

Borg,

I don't know if Eggsalad is racist or not but he does hav a poiint. Had it been a white man killing five black women the race of the killer would have been mentioned.

Black on white and gay on straight crimes are not treated the same as their opposites.

I care about the suburbs about as much as I care about keeping my pubic hair well-trimmed, i.e. not at all.


ohhhhh come on Borg.... i talk about someones public hair (or lack there for of) and you get pissed off at me,,,,,but look at you now.....bringing up the short and curlies....;););););)

and while we are on the subject..... i would imagine the neater groomed you are down there,,,,,the longer the females spend there.... at least thats my experiance...


But lets not drift off topic..... as Borg said This is going to be a fun thread with the subject in the title alone.... no need to give it a double billing...

I think you're wrong, Frogger... (Maybe not about gay on straight crimes.)

The race of the killer was mentioned. What wasn't mentioned, at least in that article, was the race of the victims. We don't know if they're white or black or something else.

I don't know if Eggsalad is racist or not but he does hav a poiint. Had it been a white man killing five black women the race of the killer would have been mentioned.
That wasn't his point at all, but I'll bite. The news article I read yesterday mentioned his race.

That wasn't his point at all, but I'll bite. The news article I read yesterday mentioned his race.
The article he linked to mentioned the race of the killer... So I'm not sure what Frogger is referring to.

I am referring to the general tendency to not identify perpetrators by race even when giving their descriptions. It would be much more helpfull to describe someone being looked for a black, white, hispanic or asian rather than what many papers do now, giving eye and hair color along with height and weight. Saying a suspect is six feet tall with brown eyes and dark hair is not as helpful as saying the authorities are looking for a black man. The same goes for other races.

Each article I've seen about this shooting has included a description of the suspected shooter, including his race. Other than names & ages, I've seen nothing regarding the victims.

Frogger, the article linked clearly indicated the man's race, ya fuckin' idiot.

I am referring to the general tendency to not identify perpetrators by race even when giving their descriptions. It would be much more helpfull to describe someone being looked for a black, white, hispanic or asian rather than what many papers do now, giving eye and hair color along with height and weight. Saying a suspect is six feet tall with brown eyes and dark hair is not as helpful as saying the authorities are looking for a black man. The same goes for other races.
FTFA: "Grady said police are looking for a black man about 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing 230 to 260 pounds. They said the man was wearing a black waist-length winter coat, a black cap and black jeans."

Frogger, did you even read the linked article?

Frogger, did you even read the linked article?
Apparently he wasn't referring to this article at all, but to a "general tendency" in the media. Now don't we all look silly! :rolleyes:

At least on person knows how to read posts. Maybe you should give lessons to Nappy and Borg, DarkFantasy.

At least on person knows how to read posts. Maybe you should give lessons to Nappy and Borg, DarkFantasy.
Pardon me for assuming that what you were talking about actually had something to do with the OP, rather than some bullshit point you randomly invented (which appears not to be based in fact).

okay, I'll pardon you as I have done so many times before. I know you are only starting your college career and probably haven't learned to read for meaning yet so I will continue to overlook your obvious shortcomings in that area.:lolhit:

okay, I'll pardon you as I have done so many times before. I know you are only starting your college career and probably haven't learned to read for meaning yet so I will continue to overlook your obvious shortcomings in that area.:lolhit:
Dude. Back it up. Show me your evidence that people don't talk about the race of suspects. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.

okay, I'll pardon you as I have done so many times before. I know you are only starting your college career and probably haven't learned to read for meaning yet so I will continue to overlook your obvious shortcomings in that area.
What the fuck are you doing bringing up a peripheral "point" that has absolutely nothing to do with the article? Apparently you don't care about what people post, so long as it gives you an avenue to talk about your pet issues.

Why don't you head on over to my environment thread and whine about human caused global warming. Go ahead. I dare you.

Nappy, stop being an asshole. I brought it up because the originator of the thread was being called a racist by Borg. My statement was that Black on white and gay on straight crimes are not treated the same as their opposites.

The statement was correctly posted in response to a post by a previous poster. It doesn't matter if you like it or agree with it or not since you have not been appointed poster policeman.

Bah, I'm just pissed because DF fucked Borg's and my game up. We were attempting to goad you into trying to explain your position yourself, angrily and ineffectually; causing everyone to just say, "Quit being a dumbass, Frogger. The race of the perp was in the article, quit chasing at butterflies." It might have succeeded if DF hadn't ruined it. I knew exactly what you were getting at, I just wanted to fuck with you.

Psh, I didn't ruin anything. I made one of my normal little sarcastic comments.

Psh, I didn't ruin anything. I made one of my normal little sarcastic comments.
You ruined it! You... ruiner!

Bah, I'm just pissed because DF fucked Casey's and my game up. We were attempting to goad you into trying to explain your position yourself, angrily and ineffectually; causing everyone to just say, "Quit being a dumbass, Frogger. The race of the perp was in the article, quit chasing at butterflies." It might have succeeded if DF hadn't ruined it. I knew exactly what you were getting at, I just wanted to fuck with you.

Nappy, you might be a legend in your own mind but you are not near smart enough to outsmart me. Hell, I doubt if you could outsmart Overdose. You should stick to easier stuff like outsmarting dharmabum.

Ouch, did you just suggest that outsmarting dharma is easier than outsmarting OD? Actually I'm not sure which way that would go....

Pfft. I've gotten you plenty of times in the past.

Ouch, did you just suggest that outsmarting dharma is easier than outsmarting OD? Actually I'm not sure which way that would go....
LOL. this was a classic thread. frogger sure isnt shy in taking on a crowd. ofcourse nappy doesnt dissapoint as usual. too bad dark ended it early. oh well.

What the fuck? I didn't end anything.

What the fuck? I didn't end anything.
i can start it back up-Nappy called you the fat friend:cool:

i can start it back up-Nappy called you the fat friend:cool:
:lolhit: I'm so far from fat that I find that more amusing than insulting.

:lolhit: I'm so far from fat that I find that more amusing than insulting.
So, was it three pints of Ben and Jerry's last night, or did you move up to four?

So, was it three pints of Ben and Jerry's last night, or did you move up to four?
:p Considering that I just had my wisdom teeth out on Friday, my caloric intake has been cut so sharply... The only things I can eat are things like ice cream and Jell-o, and I really don't have a sweet tooth. I like junk food, of course, just more into salty crunchy stuff that I can't freakin' have. Also, I can't open my mouth very wide, and the Vicodin they have me on is quite the appetite suppressant. So I wouldn't be surprised if I came out of this having lost a few pounds. I didn't need to, since I hit my goal weight a few weeks ago, but it's nice to have a little leeway...

:lolhit: I'm so far from fat that I find that more amusing than insulting.
not fat literally! the friend that goes out with the hot chick to keep her safe from wolves like Nappy;)

not fat literally! the friend that goes out with the hot chick to keep her safe from wolves like Nappy;)
Ah. Well I have no female friends so that would also be unrealistic... Fucking women. I have had it up to HERE (pointing to forehead) with all the goddamn bitches at school who seem determined to just bother me in every way possible and follow everything I say with some sort of snide comment.

:p Considering that I just had my wisdom teeth out on Friday, my caloric intake has been cut so sharply... The only things I can eat are things like ice cream and Jell-o, and I really don't have a sweet tooth. I like junk food, of course, just more into salty crunchy stuff that I can't freakin' have. Also, I can't open my mouth very wide, and the Vicodin they have me on is quite the appetite suppressant. So I wouldn't be surprised if I came out of this having lost a few pounds. I didn't need to, since I hit my goal weight a few weeks ago, but it's nice to have a little leeway...
that's gotta suck. right before paczki day too:(

Ah. Well I have no female friends so that would also be unrealistic... Fucking women. I have had it up to HERE (pointing to forehead) with all the goddamn bitches at school who seem determined to just bother me in every way possible and follow everything I say with some sort of snide comment.
pay them no mind, they're just jealous.

that's gotta suck. right before paczki day too:(
What the hell is "paczki" day?? :confused:

What the hell is "paczki" day?? :confused:
:eek:you don't have paczki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paczki)? it's like a Berliner.:woohoo:

not fat literally! the friend that goes out with the hot chick to keep her safe from wolves like Nappy;)
Pfft. I need one of those to keep the women from me.

Dude. Back it up. Show me your evidence that people don't talk about the race of suspects. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
I'm still waiting, Frogger.

Welcome to Frogger land. Frogger's too mature and grown up for facts. We only need facts because we're young and inexperienced. If you were wise like Frogger you'd just know. C'mon Borg, wise up. You're embarrassing yourself.

Stop drinking till you puke with the rest of your college buds, Borg and start reading newspapers and watching the news on television.

start reading newspapers and watching the news on television.
What shit. I've never learned anything worthwhile from television and print news. Garbage, all of it. 'Course, that does explain why Frogger's opinions are hopelessly simplistic. Mass media makes you dumb.

I take it back, the Wall Street Journal can come up with some decent stuff. But that's it.

Stop drinking till you puke with the rest of your college buds, Borg and start reading newspapers and watching the news on television.
well Frogger, as the spokesman of the hoplessly drunk,we dont reconize borg as a member!.......no offense borg

What shit. I've never learned anything worthwhile from television and print news. Garbage, all of it. 'Course, that does explain why Frogger's opinions are hopelessly simplistic. Mass media makes you dumb.

Spoken like a truely ignorant person. I don't watch or read new reports because I think it's garbage. Yeah, Nappy, you get your information from the ether. It just seeps into your head.

Spoken like a truely ignorant person. I don't watch or read new reports because I think it's garbage. Yeah, Nappy, you get your information from the ether. It just seeps into your head.
ROFL. How hopelessly stupid you are. I said I don't watch television or read print news. Can you think of any other mediums there are to get information? Here's a hint. It's sitting right in front of your face.

Yep, I'm an ignorant failure, Nappy. I don't read newspapers. I don't watch t.v. news. I quit the military. I quit college. I quit every job I ever had.



Oh, wait, that's you, not me.

Answer the question, Frogger. Or are you too stupid?

Stop drinking till you puke with the rest of your college buds, Borg and start reading newspapers and watching the news on television.
I beg your pardon? I haven't touched a drop of alcohol in three weeks, and prior to that, two months. I don't watch TV news because it's all sensationalist garbage, and I don't read the papers much because they're not that hot either. All that aside, it doesn't fucking matter; you're making this claim, Frogger. The burden of proof is on your wrinkly ass.

Despite your childish name calling I will give some examples to back up what I said.January 16, 2008

Worshiping at the Altar of P.C. -- daily post

It looks as if we're gonna make this a daily feature here at Colossus. It is, of course, way too easy, but at least I (we) get a tiny bit of satisfaction out of providing a public service -- UNLIKE Delaware's biggest paper, the News Journal.
Yesterday, a quartet of hoods broke into the wrong Dover apartment, but quickly corrected their mistake. Here's part of the News Journal's report:
Four armed men forced their way into a Dover-area apartment early Tuesday, holding the two occupants at gunpoint before realizing they were in the wrong place. They then invaded a second unit and attacked the occupant, Delaware State Police said.
The four armed males were dressed in black clothing with hooded sweat shirts.
WGMD radio's website gives the public safety -- and non-politically correct -- version:
State Police are investigating a home invasion robbery in Dover at the Autumn Run Apartment complex. Police say that four armed suspects knocked on the door of an apartment where two people lived at about 1:15 Tuesday morning. The suspects forced their way in when the tenants answered the door. While holding the tenants at gunpoint, the apartment was ransacked – and the suspects discovered they were in the wrong apartment and left. The suspects went to the correct apartment where they struck the tenant in the head with a handgun ...
All the suspects are black and were wearing black clothing and hooded sweatshirts –one had a light complexion.
Wow! WGMD even went further (as I suggested yesterday that the News Journal do) and described one of the men as having a "light complexion"! But wait -- doesn't WGMD know that "there are good reasons those descriptions never see the light of day. They generalize. They stereotype. And they require that everyone who hears the description has the same idea of what those folks look like"??
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January 15, 2008

Even when there's a surveillance photo the News Journal refuses to note hue
This is just beyond comical. Even when the News Journal prints PHOTOS of police suspects which CLEARLY show the race of the person, it STILL refuses to mention race in the corresponding article:
Wilmington police released surveillance photos today of a suspect in the robbery of the PNC bank at 901 Market St. on Friday.
The bank was robbed about 1:40 p.m. by a man claiming he had a gun.
A man in his mid-30s wearing a black leather coat handed a teller a note saying he had a gun and demanding money.
The suspect fled with cash.
No one was injured.
The suspect was described as, 5’5” to 5’9” tall, weighing 150-160 pounds, with a light beard, blue jeans and a black baseball hat.
Not that one needs the mention in this case because of the photo, but you'd think that would be the Journal's "excuse" for FINALLY mentioning a suspect's hue! That being said, we once again have to go elsewhere for the non-P.C. version:
Wilmington police release a full description of the man wanted in connection with the PNC bank robbery on January 11th. Surveillance photos reveal the robber's identity.
He is described as a black man in his mid thirties, between five and a half feet tall and five foot nine, around 155 pounds with a light beard.
Police say he was last seen wearing a black leather jacket, blue jeans and a black baseball cap.
Some commenters at the News Journal have the mistaken notion that the paper only omits race if the suspects are minorities. Not so! The Journal's "policy" appears fairly consistent for all hues of people. Still, the Journal has already admitted it's fearful of "stereotyping" folks. I can hear the editors now: "Is public

safety really that important?" And what does 'race' really mean, right?" Once more, Journal-speak for you:
There are good reasons those descriptions never see the light of day. They generalize. They stereotype. And they require that everyone who hears the description has the same idea of what those folks look like. All Irish-Americans don’t look alike. Why, then, accept a description that says a suspect was African-American?
As we've mentioned before, this is just ludicrous. When's the last time you saw a police description stating "Police are seeking an Irish-American male ..."? You'd actually see something like "Police are seeking a white male with red hair ..." And people with common sense know what a description of an African-American is. Instead of omitting any mention of race at all, why doesn't the Journal enhance the specificity of police descriptions?
Two reasons why they don't: 1) It offends their P.C. sensibilities, and 2) it makes too much sense.
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Once again, somebody else has to do the News Journal's job
The question is: Why does the Wilmington News Journal even bother to print police reports at all if they're not going to print ALL -- and the MOST RELEVANT -- of the details?
Today's News Journal description of a suspect who approached a young boy:
A bearded man in a black SUV with the letter H written in red on the hood accosted an 8-year-old Wilmington boy Monday. Police said the boy was waiting for a bus at Eighth and Spruce streets about 8 a.m. when a driver stopped at the traffic light and told the boy to "come over and get in the truck." The boy ran home and told his mother. Police said the man was wearing a blue shirt.
WDEL.com's description of the very same incident:

An eight year old boy runs home from his school bus stop, after a man tried to get the boy into his truck. Police say it happened Monday morning at the corner of 8th and Spruce Streets in Wilmington. The boy told police a black man with a black beard driving a black S-U-V with a red letter "H" on the hood, stopped at the traffic light, and called to the boy to get in.
As always, the News Journal -- worshiping at the altar of Political Correctness.
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January 14, 2008

News Journal police reports: "Race? What's that? Help the public? Huh?"
News Journal police report about two robberies, probably connected:
State police are investigating two armed robberies in the Edgemoor area believed to have been committed by the same bandits. The first robbery was reported at 7:05 p.m. Saturday at the Bella Italy restaurant at 4817 Gov. Printz Blvd. Witnesses told police three young men and a young woman, all between ages 16 and 25, entered the eatery and demanded cash. One of the men displayed a gun while another removed cash from the register. About 10 minutes later, troopers were called to another robbery nearby at Clifton Liquors, 304 Edgemoor Road. In that incident, witnesses said three men, possibly teenagers, entered the store and robbed the clerk at gunpoint. In both cases, the males were described as wearing bandanas or masks, dark-colored jackets with fur around the hoods and dark-colored, baggy jeans. Both robberies were caught on surveillance video, which police said will be released soon.
WDEL report of same incident(s):
State Police are investigating two robberies that could be linked together.
On Saturday night, three men and a woman went into the Bella Italy restaurant on Governor Printz Boulevard in Wilmington armed with a handgun. The suspects allegedly showed the gun, grabbed the clerk and took an unknown amount of money from the register and then fled.
The second robbery happened shortly thereafter when three men went into the Clifton's Liquor Store on Edgemoor Road armed with a handgun. They allegedly showed the gun, grabbed the clerk and took an unknown amount of money from the register and then fled out the back door.
Security cameras caught both robberies and police are trying to piece them together.
The suspects were three black men between the ages of 16-25 and one woman of the same age.
The News Journal's description actually would be better in this case if they included what WDEL mentions -- the key factor in a suspect's description: the RACE of the person. Suspect's can change their clothes. They can't change their hue. In addition, the News Journal story features a commenter that copied and pasted an even better [full] description from WILM.com (now not available on that site).
Just remember the News Journal's mantra:
Our policy is not about being politically correct, it's about being accurate. Race is such an unreliable descriptor. What race is Halle Berry or Tiger Woods or Jennifer Lopez? They are extreme examples, but project them onto everyday people and you see the problem.
Etc. Yeah, "Race is such an unreliable descriptor," yet easily changed clothing somehow is reliable. Hell, why else would the Journal reveal a suspect's attire, right? PUH-LEASE.
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January 11, 2008

Hi, I'm the News Journal and I'm ridiculously P.C.
Police report from the News Journal today:
The suspect, described as 5 feet, 8 to 11 inches with a thin build, wore a black jacket, white shirt, blue jeans and a black knit hat. He appeared to be 17 to 25 years old.
Wow, that's sure some description! Very precise and in-depth! There's just one KEY ingredient missing, though ...
So, of COURSE we had to go to another -- REAL -- news outlet, in this case WGMD radio's website. Here's their description:
The suspect is a white man about 17 to 25, about 5' 10" with a thin build. He was wearing black jacket, white shirt, blue jeans and a black knit hat.
Thank you, WGMD, for providing a REAL service to the people of Delaware. The News Journal is too busy worshiping at the altar of political correctness.
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January 04, 2008

Hi, I'm the News Journal and I'm ridiculously P.C. part II for today
News Journal report about a man that approached a 13 year-old girl today:
Wilmington police are investigating a report that a suspicious man approached a 13-year-old girl as she was walking home from a bus stop.
The man was described as being bald and heavy set, and was wearing a black t-shirt.
WDEL.com report of the same incident:
Wilmington police hope you can help them find a man they say tried to kidnap a 13-year-old girl as she walked home from her bus stop Wednesday afternoon.
The suspect is decribed as a heavy-set black man between 28 and 35 years old, bald, wearing a black T-shirt and driving a black Lexus.
Paul Smith Jr. wonders if the News Journal has given up on reporting the race of suspects entirely. He's got a point; however, as recently as December 7th, the News Journal "violated" its own policy by printing the following:
The witness described the suspect as a middle-age white man, slender built, about 6-feet-3 inches tall, with a light-colored goatee and square framed glasses. He was wearing blue jeans, a navy-colored jacket, knit hat, gloves and a scarf partially covering his face.
Writer Terri Sanginiti informed me that "she got 'special dispensation' from her editors" to use that full description. She also said that each case "is different and has to be discussed with an editor," and "that it is primarily dependent on the amount of details in the description provided that is considered."
Of course, this is utterly ridiculous and needs to be changed. As I've said ad nauseum, what kind of public service does the News Journal provide by purposely leaving out a vital detail -- perhaps the most vital detail -- of a criminal suspect's description?? The answer is "a very lousy one," given that other local media outlets like WDEL do provide full descriptions.
The News Journal would rather pat themselves on the back because they're "not engaging in and/or perpetuating stereotypes." Public safety? Huh?
The nonsense is so beyond pathetic that even lefty progressives like Nancy Willing are fed up. And if what Paul Smith says proves accurate -- that the News Journal has given up reporting the race of suspects for good -- it doesn't matter. I'll be here as often as I can pointing out where the ACCURATE and COMPLETE police reports can be found.
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Hi, I'm the News Journal and I'm ridiculously P.C.
From today's News Journal Police Report section:
ROBBER SOUGHT: A suspect is being sought in the Dec. 29 robbery of a Royal Farms store in Seaford. Delaware State Police said the thief entered the store at about 2:40 a.m., said he had a gun and demanded money from a clerk. The clerk backed away and called police, but not before the thief took a donation jar from the counter. He fled on foot with an undisclosed amount of money and headed toward a nearby Fran's dairy market. The thief was described as 5 feet 9 to 11 inches tall, 160 to 190 pounds and 18 to 30 years old. He was last seen wearing a red hooded sweat shirt, black pants, gloves and construction boots.
Knowing that the News Journal is infected with insane political correctness, I checked WGMD's website (since the incident occurred in Sussex County) and found their report on the same incident:
State police continue to investigate a robbery that happened Saturday at the Royal Farms Store in Seaford. It was 2:40 in the morning when a guy went into the store and approached the clerk at the register. He said he had a gun and demanded cash. The clerk backed away from the counter and called 9-11. The guy then removed a donation jar from the counter, which had little bit of money in it. After taking the jar, he ran out of the store towards Fran's Dairy Market. The guy is white, about 5'9 to 5'11 and 160 to 190 pounds. He is believed to be between 18 and 30 years old and was last seen wearing a red hooded sweatshirt, gloves, black pants and construction boots.
Which news outlet is providing the better public service -- the News Journal or WGMD? Why is it so difficult to write "The guy is white," News Journal? Why do you feel it more necessary to be politically correct than assist in public safety? (Actually, it could be dubbed "anti-politically correct" since a white guy is the suspect; but let's make it even easier for the idiotic WNJ: IT'S JUST A FREAKIN' STUPID POLICY!)
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January 01, 2008

Contrast and compare
News Journal report of a 17 year-old boy's stabbing yesterday:
A 17-year-old Wilmington boy remained hospitalized today following a weekend stabbing that left him in critical condition.
Wilmington police spokesman Master Sgt. Steven Barnes said the incident occurred about 10:50 p.m. Saturday in the area of 25th and West streets, where the victim was approached by three assailants in dark clothing.
The victim told officers that one of the assailants hit him in the head with some type of object and knocked him to the ground.
The other two men then took off his jacket and pants. During the robbery, the teenager was stabbed, Barnes said. The victim was rushed to Christiana Hospital, where he underwent emergency surgery. He was reported in critical condition today, Barnes said.
WDEL.com's online report of the very same incident:
Wilmington police are looking for three suspects in connection with a weekend stabbing that left a 17-year-old boy critically injured. Officers found the victim in the 300 block of West 25th Street Saturday night with multiple stab wounds to the upper body.
He said the suspects attacked him as he walked near 25th and West, one suspect hitting him in the head and knocking him to the ground and the other two taking off his jacket and pants.
The victim was stabbed at some point during the attack, and had to have emergency surgery at Christiana Hospital.
The suspects are described only as black men wearing dark clothing, and anyone with information can call Wilmington detectives or 9-1-1.
Now you tell me: Which news outlet is providing the better public service?
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25 to 30 years old, 5 feet 8 inches tall ...
... with a black hooded sweatshirt with unknown writing on the front, and wearing a baseball cap.
Fill in the missing key ingredient, as usual. Your News Journal at it again.
UPDATE: Heard on WDEL that the suspect is a white guy. That helps significantly. But the WNJ clings to its PC ideals!
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December 29, 2007

18 to 25 years old, weighing 190 to 210 pounds ...
... and standing about 5 feet, five inches. He had short black hair and a teardrop tattoo under his right eye. He was last seen wearing a sleeveless T-shirt and light-colored khaki pants.
Yes, this is the latest "description" given to us by that bastion of public information, the Wilmington News Journal. See if you can figure out what is omitted.
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December 21, 2007

P.C. News Journal at it again
Kudos to Nancy Willing for picking this one up. Here we have some scumbag who terrorized an eleven year old girl, but that's still not enough for the idiotic News Journal to notify the public about the race of the suspect:
The man was described as between 40-50 years old with a mustache. He was dressed in black clothing, Navarro said.
This is NOT the complete description given by the girl. The News Journal selectively omitted the race of the man, which happens to be black. Here is the full description:
The subject is described as a black male between the ages of 40-50, wearing all black clothing and a mustache.
Thanks, News Journal, for not doing your job as a disseminator of information. You're more concerned about politically correct multiculti theory than the public's well-being. What does it take for you to provide a full description? A child actually being abducted? Would you give your writers "special dispensation" then??
When leftists like Nance are getting fed up with this garbage, you know it's beyond ridiculous. Keep at it, Nance.
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December 07, 2007

News Journal editorial policy on race of suspects -- inconsistent!
Back in August we were given proof that the Wilmington News Journal is a whopper when it comes to political correctness. Here is but a glimpse of what this policy says:
Our policy is not about being politically correct, it's about being accurate. Race is such an unreliable descriptor. What race is Halle Berry or Tiger Woods or Jennifer Lopez? They are extreme examples, but project them onto everyday people and you see the problem.
This doesn't seem to apply, though, when the suspect is Caucasian. Case in point: Terri Sanginiti's article on a carjacking in Hockessin yesterday:
The witness described the suspect as a middle-age white man, slender built, about 6-feet-3 inches tall, with a light-colored goatee and square framed glasses. He was wearing blue jeans, a navy-colored jacket, knit hat, gloves and a scarf partially covering his face.
Say what? But I thought that "race is such an unreliable descriptor"!! Naturally, as BadIdeaGuy over at Target Rich Environment said (and to whom the hat tip for this story goes), I applaud Ms. Sanginiti for finally giving the public a full description of a criminal suspect. But I e-mailed her to ask her why the apparent change in policy. Her reply? She got "special dispensation" from her editors. When I asked her just why she got this "special dispensation," she said that each case "is different and has to be discussed with an editor." She also said that it is "primarily dependent on the amount of details in the description provided that is considered."
Is it me or does "has to be discussed with an editor" sound more like "has to be discussed with our PC officer"? And as we all know, PC doesn't apply to people of a particular hue, now, does it?
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October 04, 2007

Who are we looking for, precisely?
Target Rich Environment nails the AP (and their parrot, the Wilmington News Journal), Philly.com and, surprisingly, WPHT radio's website over a report about two armored car guards being murdered in the City of Brotherly Love.
Guess what the AP (News Journal, WPHT) and Philly.com completely omitted from their reports of the incident? Take a guess, based on this report from KYW 1060's website, which includes a more thorough description:
Philadelphia police are investigating an armored car robbery Thursday morning in the city’s Rhawnhurst section that resulted in the death of two guards.
The robbery happened outside of a Wachovia bank branch just after 8am near Bustleton Avenue and Bleigh Street. Three armored car guards were removing money from ATM machines at the time of the robbery.
Police officials say two guards were shot to death at point-blank range. A third guard suffered a graze wound.
Police were said to be looking for at least suspect — a black male wearing a yellow baseball cap – who escaped in a black car with tinted glass windows and a sunroof. Police say the suspect got away with an unspecified amount of money.
Get it yet? Here -- here's another clue.
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August 28, 2007

Here we go again
A guy gets a fractured skull, loses teeth, a busted nose and other injuries, and here's the official News Journal description of the man's assailants:
[State Police Cpl. Jeff] Whitmarsh said the attackers were described as being in their early 20s; three of them were dressed in cut-off pants and white, sleeveless T-shirts. The fourth was wearing jeans and a white, short-sleeved T-shirt.
What obvious -- and helpful -- descriptive facet is omitted? Doesn't the NJ realize that these criminals can easily change their friggin' clothes at a whim? Or do they think they'll just keep wearing the same outfit all the time, sort of like the characters in Charles Schulz's "Charlie Brown" comics? (That'd be "Peanuts," actually.)
A commenter at the NJ article states that he heard on WDEL that the attackers were white. So? As a white male myself I am OFFENDED that the News Journal DID NOT report the race of these attackers. I detest political correctness in ANY form.
In a word, "Sheesh."
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August 27, 2007

Proof: The News Journal is politically correct
A few days ago I e-mailed the News Journal asking why this article failed to mention the race of the assailants who have been victimizing Hispanics recently. They responded with their editorial policy regarding such matters, established by an asst. managing editor. Note that in its first paragraph, it says it's "not about being politically correct." You be the judge:
Our policy is not about being politically correct, it's about being accurate. Race is such an unreliable descriptor. What race is Halle Berry or Tiger Woods or Jennifer Lopez? They are extreme examples, but project them onto everyday people and you see the problem.
Or what real information is conveyed in a description that says: She is a 5-foot-6-inch white woman with brown hair? How many women fit that description? Who is that of use to? By the way, that description is of me -- and I haven't committed any crimes.
I offer you these excerpts from Keith M. Woods, a noted journalism scholar, in an essay called "The Language of Race": "What, for example, does a Hispanic man look like? Is his skin dark brown? Reddish brown? Pale? Is his hair straight? Curly? Course? Fine? Does he have a flat, curved nose or is it narrow and straight? Telling the public that he’s 5-foot-8, 180 pounds, with a blue shirt and blue jeans says something about the person’s appearance. But what do you add to that picture when you say Latino?
"And what is black? It’s the color of pitch. Yet, the word is used to describe people whose skin tones can cover just about every racial and ethnic group in the world, including white people. What does the word "black" add to the mental picture the public draws? How do you draw the lips? The eyes? The nose? What sort of hair does a black person have? What color skin does a black person have? The combinations are infinite.
"All racial and ethnic groups do share some common physical characteristics. Still, we don’t see the phrase "Irish-looking man" in the newspaper, though red hair and pale skin are common Irish characteristics. Would a picture come to mind if a TV anchor said, "The suspect appeared to be Italian"? Couldn’t many of us conjure an image if the police said they were looking for a middle-aged man described as "Jewish-looking."
"There are good reasons those descriptions never see the light of day. They generalize. They stereotype. And they require that everyone who hears the description has the same idea of what those folks look like. All Irish-Americans don’t look alike. Why, then, accept a description that says a suspect was African-American?
When police have a surveillance photo of a suspect or a sketch -- by far the best way to help citizens identify someone sought by the police -- we are happy to run that.
Personally, I am struck by the absolute arrogance of this. Keep in mind that the police report and local radio all included the race of the attackers in their reports of the incidents against local Hispanics. (Note, too, the irony that "Hispanic" was used in the NJ to describe the victims ... OK, I know I know ... they or the police probably told the NJ themselves their ethnic background, but you get the point.) I mean, consider:
She is a 5-foot-6-inch white woman with brown hair? How many women fit that description? Who is that of use to?
If there was a killer out there, wouldn't you want this information -- to narrow down the number of potential suspects just a little??
Telling the public that he’s 5-foot-8, 180 pounds, with a blue shirt and blue jeans says something about the person’s appearance. But what do you add to that picture when you say Latino?
A LOT! You've now excluded a TON of potential suspects! And doesn't the editor realize that this 5-foot-8, 180 lb. man can actually change his "blue shirt" and "blue jeans" -- but not his race? Are you kidding me??
Still, we don’t see the phrase "Irish-looking man" in the newspaper, though red hair and pale skin are common Irish characteristics. Would a picture come to mind if a TV anchor said, "The suspect appeared to be Italian"? Couldn’t many of us conjure an image if the police said they were looking for a middle-aged man described as "Jewish-looking."
That's right, we don't see the phrase "Irish-looking man." We do see -- and should see -- the phrase "white man with pale complexion and red hair." "Irish" is not a race, after all. Nor is "Jewish."
"There are good reasons those descriptions never see the light of day. They generalize. They stereotype. And they require that everyone who hears the description has the same idea of what those folks look like. All Irish-Americans don’t look alike. Why, then, accept a description that says a suspect was African-American?
See response above. "Irish" is not a race much like "Nigerian" is not. White is a race as is "black." In the US, "black" is synonymous with "African-American" (due to, I might add, the insistence of [some] black leaders). This is why the public would be best informed if the race of police suspects was revealed along with other pertinent info.
But here you have it -- to the News Journal, valuable information for the public isn't as paramount as being fearful of "stereotyping" a group of people. Despite what the NJ says to the contrary, this is the epitome of political correctness, folks.
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August 24, 2007

Don't call it a hate crime!!
The News Journal reports:
Three more robbery attacks by a gang of assailants near the Canby Park Shopping Center in Christiana Hundred have Delaware State Police alerting the Hispanic community that residents are being victimized in these recent strong-arm robberies.
Though police said all but one of the victims were Hispanic and the robberies were reportedly committed by assailants who are not of Hispanic descent, the incidents are not being classified legally as hate crimes.
My emphasis. "... and the robberies were reportedly committed by assailants who are not of Hispanic descent." You've gotta be joking. This must be News Journal-speak for saying that the assailants were black. In the article's comment section, one commenter links to the police report which shows the attackers were black. And there's your reason why these aren't going to be considered hate crimes!
Why can't the News Journal state this most obvious of physical traits ... as the police report indicates? Why do local radio stations note the attackers' race? (I heard a report on WDEL this afternoon saying that the assailants were "several black males ages 16-20.") If we had only the WNJ to go by, we'd be on the lookout for a group of white men. Or Asian men. Or black men. Or Indian men. Or middle eastern-looking men.
Yeesh.

http://colossus.mu.nu/archives/cat_pc_news_journal_crime_reports.php

If you need more examples they are readily available.

The childish namecalling comment was addressed to Nappy, not you, Borg.

I was referring to the medium question, Borg's question I expect is way out your capability to answer. We have to work up to the smart stuff. Sit up straight Frogger, school's in session. First question. What other mediums exist to get information besides print and television? I already gave you a hint. Do you need another one?

Despite your childish name calling I will give some examples to back up what I said.January 16, 2008
I was aiming for something like a Pew study. Something from a well-respected, politically neutral and impartial organization that looks at these kinds of things. No, that doesn't mean FAIR or MRC. Some guy yelling on a blog hardly constitutes evidence.

You mean actual examples of articles from newspapers aren't good enough for you? Are you suggesting the articles really mentioned the perp's race but it was somehow erased in the article?

I said race is often not mentioned and I gave examples of actual articles to back up what I said and you say it isn't the source you wanted.

I'm sorry, Borg but it's just too bad if you don't like my examples.

Frogger can't understand the the difference between proof and example. That's why he fails.

You mean actual examples of articles from newspapers aren't good enough for you? Are you suggesting the articles really mentioned the perp's race but it was somehow erased in the article?

I said race is often not mentioned and I gave examples of actual articles to back up what I said and you say it isn't the source you wanted.

I'm sorry, Borg but it's just too bad if you don't like my examples.
See, the problem is that you're stating that there is a trend. Am I denying that, sometimes, news outlets go PC-happy and refrain from ever mentioning race? No, of course not. The question is, is there a distinct trend of them doing so? A few cherrypicked examples do not prove a trend. Studies prove trends.

Are you a complete asshole, Nappy, or do you only play one on the internet.

I said that newspapers do not always mention the race of a suspect. I gave examples of newpaper articles that have done exactly what I said and you, in the depths of idiocy say that isn't proof that what I said is true.

My, God, Nappy, you are acting more and more like dharmabum every day.

Borg asked for proof of a trend. It's your fault you didn't read his request properly, and your fault for insinuating there's a trend in the first place, your fault for failing to respond to his request by either clarifying your position, or providing the proof he was asking for. You fail, like you always do, to communicate effectively, instead expecting others to magically grasp the meaning of your vague, yet overly assertive language.

Another pathetic performance from Frogger. Too bad he's incapable of staging a better one.

Here's an email from the reporter/editor of the Deleware News Journal in response to a query from Steve Hill. Of course I will not be surprised if you discount this email as you have discounted the examples given.

From: “Terri Sanginiti”
To: “‘Steve Hill’”
Subject: RE: Descriptions of alleged criminals??
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:35:43 -0500

It’s News Journal policy. The only time we are permitted to use race or
ethnicity is IF the suspect we’re writing about has any distinguishing
characteristics that would set him apart in looks from any other black,
Hispanic, Asian, etc. That would include, for instance, in cases of African
Americans, dreadlocks, or it could comprise unusual tattoos that are visible
to the eye, particularly unusual garb. Sometimes, although not always, the
editors bend the rules a little in cases of rape. But that must be judged
case-by-case. onse to a query as to why they don't give the race of a suspect.

Here's an email from the reporter/editor of the Deleware News Journal in response to a query from Steve Hill. Of course I will not be surprised if you discount this email as you have discounted the examples given.

From: “Terri Sanginiti”
To: “‘Steve Hill’”
Subject: RE: Descriptions of alleged criminals??
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:35:43 -0500

It’s News Journal policy. The only time we are permitted to use race or
ethnicity is IF the suspect we’re writing about has any distinguishing
characteristics that would set him apart in looks from any other black,
Hispanic, Asian, etc. That would include, for instance, in cases of African
Americans, dreadlocks, or it could comprise unusual tattoos that are visible
to the eye, particularly unusual garb. Sometimes, although not always, the
editors bend the rules a little in cases of rape. But that must be judged
case-by-case. onse to a query as to why they don't give the race of a suspect.
Relevant part bolded. Another fail.

Here's an email from the reporter/editor of the Deleware News Journal in response to a query from Steve Hill. Of course I will not be surprised if you discount this email as you have discounted the examples given.
One paper, Frogger. I'm looking for a trend, T-R-E-N-D. All you've proved is that one newspaper among thousands has a stupid policy.

Perhaps we should go find some articles where the perp's race is mentioned? Oh, I wonder where we might be able to find one. *ponders* Do you, Borg, know where we might find such an article? They must be exceedingly rare, don't you think?

Sacramento Bee Asks: Is Not Mentioning Race of Crime Suspects too PC?

By Warner Todd Huston | September 25, 2007 - 04:28 ET

Now, here we have a very interesting debate about journalism, racism, crime and the new media on the internet. The Sacramento Bee has been forced to revisit a long standing, 15-year-old policy this week. It seems that for years the Bee has, for the most part, avoided mentioning the race of a suspected criminal in their crime coverage. They claimed that they only mentioned race when the story was "accompanied by a detailed physical description or when reporting a serial crime or when using police sketches of suspects." Critics of the paper, however, claim this policy is merely a paean to PCism and this refusal of the paper to mention the race of a suspect makes the Bee's coverage less than informative and has made it practically useless as a tool of assistance to the police.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2007/09/25/sacramento-bee-asks-not-mentioning-race-crime-suspects-too-pc


Carmelyn Daley, news director at WISC-TV (Ch. 3), agrees. “We need specific descriptions” before including racial identifiers, she says, by which she means age, sex, height, weight, tattoos, facial hair and distinctive clothing. Otherwise, “I don’t want to hear a suspect description.”


http://www.madisoncommons.org/article.php?storyid=317

Police described the first man who approached the victim as 5 feet 10 inches tall, 160 pounds, about 25 years old, wearing blue jeans and a white jacket. Police described the robber as 6 feet tall, 250 pounds, clean-shaven, about 25 years old, with a tattoo on his neck.
Later Sunday, about 10:55 p.m., a man pulled a gun on a person walking near the intersection of Hickory and Cambronne streets. Approaching from a side alley brandishing a handgun, the robber took about $150 in cash and fled down Hickory toward Leonidas Street. Police described the robber as 5 feet 8 inches tall, 160 pounds, wearing all black, with gold teeth and a cross tattoo on his forehead.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/01/three_armed_robberies_are_repo.html

RAPE, MUTILATION AND MURDER: A Horror Story Hidden from National Attention
James H. Lilley
On Saturday January 6, 2007 Hugh Christopher Newsom, age 23 and Channon Gail Christian, age 21, both students at the University of Tennessee went out on a date.
They were driving in Channon's Toyota 4-Runner when they were carjacked at gunpoint. Suddenly the crime turned far more savage than an armed car theft. Chris and Channon were kidnapped and driven to 2316 Chipman Street where they were forced into the home at gunpoint. While Channon was forced to watch, her boyfriend was raped prison style and then his penis was cut off. He was later driven to nearby railroad tracks where he was shot and set afire. But Channon's hell was just beginning. She was beaten; gang raped repeatedly in many ways, had one of her breasts cut off and bleach poured down her throat to destroy DNA evidence-all while she was still alive. To add to Channon's degradation the suspects took turns urinating on her. They too set her body afire, apparently inside the residence, but for some reason left her body there-in five separate trash bags.
The District Attorney General of Knox County later announced the arrests of the following five suspects and the charges they'd face:
Lemaricus "Slim" Davidson, age 25 faces a total of 46 charges. Davidson was indicated on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Latalvis "Rome" Cobbins, age 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Cobbins was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two counts especially aggravated robbery from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
George "Detroit" Thomas, age 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Thomas was indicated on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two Counts of premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robbery from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Vanessa Coleman, age 18, faces a total of 40 Tennessee State charges. Coleman was indicated on 12 Counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. One count premeditated murder of Christian only, 1 count of especially aggravated robbery of Newsom only, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Eric "E" Boyd, age 24, was arrested in connection with the carjacking, but faces only federal charges as an accessory after the fact.
I wasn't aware of this incident until a friend brought it to my attention May 9th. Until then I'd never heard even a single comment regarding this brutal crime mentioned by any of our national news media. We had the death of Anna Nicole Smith shoved down our throats by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and FOX News (if we cared to watch) for hours on end over a period of several weeks. I didn't give a rat's ass about some overweight, drugged out, has-been bimbo who was apparently willing to crawl into bed with any man who had anything vaguely resembling a pulse. Yet, I couldn't turn on the television without some new twist in the Anna Nicole saga being discussed. The only victim in this entire matter is the poor baby who was used as a pawn by everyone with dollar signs in their eyes. Just about the time the Anna Nicole Smith epic was winding down we had Don Imus and the "Nappy headed hos" comment that grabbed headlines around the world. So, for another two or three weeks we were bombarded with cries of insensitivity and racism while Al Sharpton frantically tried to arouse the fires of racial hatred.
Why wasn't the nation informed of the brutal rape, mutilation and murder of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian? Was it because they were white and the suspects black? That certainly seems to be the opinion among thousands who have very angrily commented on this case in daily blogs. There are accusations that the press has a double standard when race is a component of crime. One example given was how often do we hear about a suspect wanted for a crime described as a "white male," but when the suspect is black no mention of race is made? Like it or not, I've heard this quite often from the Baltimore and Washington television stations. Though I will also report that I've heard the race given when the suspect is black. I don't know if it's station policy or the beliefs of particular reporters broadcasting the news when it comes to the offering of a full description of a suspect or not. But, in my opinion, when you air a broadcast and ask the public to provide information regarding a suspect and his or her whereabouts, you should publish the complete description and that includes race-no exceptions.
The murders of Chris Newsom and Channon Christian have brought a firestorm of criticism directed toward the national media and rightly so. There are glaring gaps in the reporting of crimes when race is an issue. We need only to look at Duke University and the accusations leveled against members of the lacrosse team. The media went wild in reporting the alleged rape of a black woman by white team members. The press couldn't wait to put Duke University, the players, the lacrosse team coach and the white race in general on trial for this reported atrocity. Not only did the press put them on trial, but also convicted everyone involved before all the evidence had been collected and analyzed and the investigation completed. Of course, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton couldn't wait to jump in front of any and all cameras available and go on the attack. This was their moment to shine once again by standing tall for the rights of the "victim" and scream racism. They had the privileged white boys of Duke in their sights and were going to mow them, their families and friends down.
And seizing the opportunity to hype his political aspirations was District Attorney Mike Nifong. He declared the players guilty and the media was damn near choking on their exuberance to build the gallows and braid the hangman's noose. Plastered on every televised news report and on the front page of every newspaper across the nation are the photographs and names of the accused players. By God, there's a good old fashioned lynching brewing and those privileged white boys are gonna be hangin' by their rich necks. Oops. It seems somebody forgot the evidence. You know, the proof needed to confirm beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the accused players. Crystal Gail Mangum, the alleged victim of the rape, had seven different DNA samples on her body and clothing and none of the DNA belonged to even one of the Duke Lacrosse players. The repercussions from the false allegation of rape by Mangum are still reverberating throughout the entire community. But media attention dwindled to almost nothing very quickly when the "race card" died and there was nothing left for them to sensationalize. To the lacrosse players and Duke University the media said, "screw you and the fact that we did our best to ruin your reputations. Our ratings skyrocketed and that's all that matters."
As far as the rape, mutilation and murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, some in the media are saying this case doesn't represent a hate crime. Well, it sure as hell doesn't symbolize a night of love and bonding between the young couple and those who butchered them. Was the cutting off of Chris' penis an act of human kindness? Was the cutting off of Channon's breast and pouring bleach down her throat an act of compassion and love? This was pure hatred, nothing less. How could any person of sound mind and thinking look at this case and say with absolute certainty that hate wasn't involved in the commission of the atrocities against Christian and Newsom?
Reading over dozens of pages on the Christian and Newsom murders and other cases I noted many angry comments one of which said the media has a recent history of "blacking out" certain news stories when race is involved. The Wichita Massacre was referenced as one of these. The Carr brothers executed four white victims, after forcing them to kneel naked in a frozen field in Kansas. A fifth intended victim lived when a bullet fired toward her head knocked her unconscious instead of killing her. She was able to identify her attackers who were arrested and charged with other violent crimes as well.
Yet, their vicious crimes were treated to a media "black out." Here cries of bias are raised because the murder of James Byrd, a black man, dragged to death by three white men received top media billing. But the Byrd case was only one of the examples used to point out the disparity in reporting.
I won't attempt to write a lengthy commentary on this issue. Instead I'll refer you to the various web sites that can be found detailing all of these cases. You need only enter the names Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom to open the dozens of sites and blogs that tell of and talk about these crimes. But be forewarned that you will find some shocking and sickening incidents of violence. And maybe your views will be similar to mine after you read about these events-the perpetrators, white and black, are indeed a subhuman culture and should be erased permanently from society. They should become nothing more than a bad memory in a faded photograph.
I've always believed the motto "No one is above the law, nor is anyone below it." I've held a belief that the law was and is for everyone, regardless of race, religion or ethnic background and when it comes to crime and justice everyone should be treated equally. I don't care if a person accused of a crime is considered privileged because of wealth and fame or they're from a row home in the city, the law should apply equally.
I feel the same about media coverage of crimes. If you're going to beat the drums loudly, point fingers and cry racism or hate, do it without bias. Bang your drums and point your fingers, but make sure you cover all races with equal fervor. When the media tries to play the game of "politically correct" by concealing facts regarding the race of suspects in a case, they are guilty of inciting racial prejudice. We can find enough of that in our society without the media further fanning the flames of bigotry.
Maybe Doctor Martin Luther King said it best. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."





http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/jl.htm

Sacramento Bee Asks: Is Not Mentioning Race of Crime Suspects too PC?

By Warner Todd Huston | September 25, 2007 - 04:28 ET

Now, here we have a very interesting debate about journalism, racism, crime and the new media on the internet. The Sacramento Bee has been forced to revisit a long standing, 15-year-old policy this week. It seems that for years the Bee has, for the most part, avoided mentioning the race of a suspected criminal in their crime coverage. They claimed that they only mentioned race when the story was "accompanied by a detailed physical description or when reporting a serial crime or when using police sketches of suspects." Critics of the paper, however, claim this policy is merely a paean to PCism and this refusal of the paper to mention the race of a suspect makes the Bee's coverage less than informative and has made it practically useless as a tool of assistance to the police.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2007/09/25/sacramento-bee-asks-not-mentioning-race-crime-suspects-too-pc


Carmelyn Daley, news director at WISC-TV (Ch. 3), agrees. “We need specific descriptions” before including racial identifiers, she says, by which she means age, sex, height, weight, tattoos, facial hair and distinctive clothing. Otherwise, “I don’t want to hear a suspect description.”


http://www.madisoncommons.org/article.php?storyid=317
Three. Out of thousands. T-R-E-N-D, Frogger. Find a study, not more examples.

Do police bureaus really need to rely on newspaper reports to assist them? If television reporters are getting to the scene before the cops are...

I've given enough examples to show that this is not an isolated problem. The two of you can deny it all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.

You'd best shut this thread down, Borg. Frogger isn't going to get it, and he's only going to flood the thread with more trash stories from trash newspapers.

Do police bureaus really need to rely on newspaper reports to assist them? If television reporters are getting to the scene before the cops are...


You are really proving yourself to be dumber than I thought, Nappy. If the police don't rely on the public to help them apprehend suspects why the hell are any descriptions placed in the newspapers, why do they even report the crimes.

You'd best shut this thread down, Borg. Frogger isn't going to get it, and he's only going to flood the thread with more trash stories from trash newspapers.

Deleware News/Journal, New Orleans Times Picayune. Yeah, real trash newspapers, Nappy.

You are digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself.

I've given enough examples to show that this is not an isolated problem. The two of you can deny it all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.
At this point, the "truth" is a matter of opinion. Just admit you can't find any real evidence of a trend, Frogger, and save everyone a lot of time.

Deleware News/Journal, New Orleans Times Picayune. Yeah, real trash newspapers, Nappy.

You are digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself.
Still not getting it, Frogger.

I take it back, the Wall Street Journal can come up with some decent stuff. But that's it.
That's a pretty right-leaning rag, dude. :eek:

That said, I agree. :D

My, God, Nappy, you are acting more and more like dharmabum every day.
That's crossing the line. No one, and I mean NO ONE, should be compared to that useless, partisan cock.

Borg, first you say it's a matter of opinion and then you say I am wrong. You can't have it both ways, Bunky. Your opinion is no better than mine no matter how high your opinion of yourself.

Three. Out of thousands. T-R-E-N-D, Frogger. Find a study, not more examples.
Do you really think they'd "study" such a phenomenon, Borg? I understand your point, but with that said, I think your expectation here is a bit unrealistic. Could you IMAGINE the backlash for impugning the almighty media because they're not racially candid? Who'd seriously delve into that topic scientifically when they KNOW, beyond any doubt, that the same people they're looking to indict are gonna sully their names for being racially motivated (read; *WHITE – IOW, a group of 'racist' researchers)? I mean, you're talking about the same "media" that summarily dismisses issues of black on white crime as taboo because it reeks of racism (in the court of public opinion, that is), and that, they simply can't afford to have happen (financially or otherwise). The ACLU and Jesse Jackson would see to that fact personally (probably with a myriad of lawsuits, and most certainly, with a shitload of bad press).

*Even if the researchers where black, and they came to the same conclusion (fat chance of that ever happening) - it wouldn't matter; they'd be treated the same way Bill Cosby was - IOW, like a group of social pariahs - "uncle toms", etc.

*Even if the researchers where black, and they came to the same conclusion (fat chance of that ever happening) - it wouldn't matter; they'd be treated the same way Bill Cosby was - IOW, like a group of social pariahs - "uncle toms", etc.

Has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Cosby is a self-important jackass. Yes, he had some strong comments about the black community that (IMO) needed saying, but he's still a raging fuckwad.

Has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Cosby is a self-important jackass. Yes, he had some strong comments about the black community that (IMO) needed saying, but he's still a raging fuckwad.
Do tell. :)

Back in the day, I was a housekeeping supervisor at Harrah's Tahoe. I worked the 15th and 16th floors, where "special" guests (high rollers) and showroom entertainers were kept. Cosby came in as Helen Reddy's opening act (this was years after Cosby's early success as a stand-up comedian, but well before he became TV's Mr. Huxtable) - essentially, he was a "nobody" of sorts at the time. I'm sure this caused him no end of personal stress, but you'd never have known it from his actions.

First, he had conniption fits because he had been given the Presidential Suite (the second-nicest set of rooms on the property) and not the Star Suite. Well, the owner of the hotel/casino, Bill Harrah, happened to be in town that week and was staying in the Star Suite. Hell, Helen Reddy, the bigger name at the time, didn't even have a suite - she just asked for a basic room to rest between sets; she had a home in Tahoe (and she was extremely kind, gracious, friendly, and more; one of the nicest entertainers/celebrities I dealt with during those years). Suck it up, Bill. :rolleyes:

Then, Mr. I'm So Damned Important decided to have a little cocktail party in his suite for some friends. The butlers were there, mixing drinks and passing out canapes, doing their butler thing. Butler hands Cosby a drink, Cosby tastes it and flings it across the room. Seems the martini wasn't quite to Mr. ISDI's liking. He then proceeded to curse the butler for being an incompetent piece of shit, the best of you dribbled down your mother's thigh, you couldn't mix Kool-Aid you moron, get the fuck out of my sight.... and so on.

There's more, but I think this little glimpse into the real personality of Mr. Cosby is more than enough to make my point.

WOW! If that's the case, then you're absolutely right - he IS an asshole. Everyone knows you're not supposed to act that way with the "help" unless you're at home. ;)

All joking aside, and not that I follow celebrity news, but I've heard similar stories of "Sly" Stallone. I hear he's a real cocksucker to work for.

Bill Cosby was to speak at my college graduation ceremony. He however demanded he was giving an honorary degree from my school. Rice doesn't give honorary degrees for anyone. it has been their policy from day one and would not budge. They negotiated to giving him some life time achievement award through the school. We the students and professors were irate and demanded the offer be withdrawn. In the end Rice refused to give Mr. Cosby anything,and he opted out of the deal to speak at our school.

Sorry... thats my only Bill Cosby story...

Do police bureaus really need to rely on newspaper reports to assist them? If television reporters are getting to the scene before the cops are...
i stopped counting 20 years ago how often i'd read a story in the local papers about the police having a sketch of a suspect in some horrid crime, then they wouldn't run the sketch! WTF! that's the whole story!

Once again we've seen the enemy. It's us.
It wasn't Al-Queda that killed those women. And I'll bet anyone a kidney that this (deleted) has a rap sheet dating back 10 or 15 years.
The problem isn't too many guns. It's not enough guns in the hands of the right people because the wacko left is convinced that they'll make the world safer by disarming us or at least placing more burdensome restrictions on weapons, and it's a fairy tale. Also because the idiots running the justice system won't keep the animals in their cages where they belong.
And I fail to understand how a continued occupation of Iraq is going to stop the madness on our own soil being committed by our own citizens. Wha t are we doing to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Because if more of this self-inflicted carnage was caused by the Islamic nutjobs, we wouldn't stand for it.