View Full Version : Montana Governor Foments Real ID Rebellion
BorgHunter
01-18-2008, 09:51 PM
Montana declared independence Friday from a federal identification rules and called on governors of 17 other states to join him in forcing a showdown with the federal government which says it will not accept the driver's licenses of rebel states' citizens starting May 11.
If that showdown comes to pass, residents of non-complying states could not use a driver's license to enter a federal courthouse or a Social Security Administration building nor could board a plane without undergoing a pat-down search, possibly creating massive backlogs at the nation's airports and almost certainly leading to a flurry of federal lawsuits.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/montana-governo.html
DarkFantasy96
01-18-2008, 10:11 PM
So that makes how many states now? Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id#Controversy_and_opposition) says that 19 states have passed legislation opposing the Real ID, and similar bills are pending in like 20 other states... I think this REAL ID thingy is shaping up to be a big fat mess for the government.
mikezila
01-18-2008, 10:58 PM
i wish them the best of luck with that.
dharmabum
01-19-2008, 12:30 AM
Real ID is a load of crap. It is just one more example of the federal government stepping on the rights of the states.
Extensions pushes back the 2008 deadline for compliance as far as out 2014 if states apply and promise to start work on making the necessary changes, which will cost cash-strapped states billions with only a pittance in federal funding.
DarkFantasy96
01-19-2008, 12:45 AM
Real ID is a load of crap. It is just one more example of the federal government stepping on the rights of the states.
That and another effort to inch its way into controlling every fucking aspect of its citizens' lives.
paulc
01-19-2008, 07:41 PM
Driving licences here have 2 photos on front with a hologram thru one of the fotos. Making them difficult to forge.
DarkFantasy96
01-19-2008, 07:46 PM
Driving licences here have 2 photos on front with a hologram thru one of the fotos. Making them difficult to forge.
We have that too (at least in some states).
paulc
01-19-2008, 07:49 PM
So can I presume that the states that dont employ this type of licence are the issue here ?
DarkFantasy96
01-19-2008, 07:54 PM
So can I presume that the states that dont employ this type of licence are the issue here ?
No... The REAL ID is much more than just a license with a hologram on it. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id) can explain it better than I can. :)
paulc
01-19-2008, 07:58 PM
No... The REAL ID is much more than just a license with a hologram on it. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id) can explain it better than I can. :)
Dont send me to a link with so much writing ok hehe.
Seriously tho-this looks a bit like a national ID card to me.
DarkFantasy96
01-19-2008, 08:04 PM
Dont send me to a link with so much writing ok hehe.
Seriously tho-this looks a bit like a national ID card to me.
It IS. First of all, it's the national government interfering with states' rights, which I HATE. Second of all, it's just another tiny step on the path towards the government being able to start a totalitarian dictatorship.
paulc
01-19-2008, 08:07 PM
Hmm-maybe the title 'Land of the Free' needs to be scrapped shortly.
That place is getting as bad as Europe.
DarkFantasy96
01-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Hmm-maybe the title 'Land of the Free' needs to be scrapped shortly.
That place is getting as bad as Europe.
:lolhit: No wonder I never wanted to move to Europe (except maybe Amsterdam... then I won't care how "free" I am :thumbs:).