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LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 02:58 PM
Columbia Academics Are Crawling To Iran To Apologize To Ahmadinejad (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/columbia_academics_are_crawling_to_iran_to_apologi ze_to_ahmadinejad/)



Just what they hope to accomplish with their hand wringing servility to one of the world’s most unstable, iron fisted dictators (http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=618008) I can’t imagine:
NEW YORK (AP) – An academic delegation of Columbia University professors and deans of faculties plans to visit Tehran to officially apologize to Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad.

The delegation plans to express regret for the insulting remarks Columbia University President Lee Bollinger directed at Ahmadinejad on September 24 in his introductory speech, the Mehr News Agency correspondent in New York reported.
Since the incident, the deans and professors from the faculties of history, anthropology, Middle Eastern studies, philosophy, and Islamic studies have criticized Bollinger’s behavior toward Ahmadinejad.
A member of the delegation, who requested anonymity, said the main goal of the visit is to meet the Iranian president and officially apologize to him.

“The delegation has also prepared its itinerary,” he noted.
He went on to say that the delegation also plans to visit Iranian universities in various cities and to hold talks with professors and students, and may even sign memoranda of understanding with some universities. He also said the delegation is interested in visiting seminaries and the shrine city of Qom.
However, Bollinger has warned the delegation that their trip to Iran should be a private visit and should not be undertaken as an official visit endorsed by the university.
Bollinger has so far refused to meet the Mehr News Agency correspondent to explain his disrespectful behavior toward Ahmadinejad when introducing him to the students and professors at Columbia.
How nice. I wonder what it would be like to visit a country with a zero homosexual rate. kinda colorless.

Isn’t it amazing how these “academics” will fly all the way to Iran to deliver slobbering kisses all over the rear of a dictator that presides over the medieval mutilation and murder of his own people (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/iran_carries_out_amputations_on_criminals_of_both_ a_hand_and_a_foot/) because they’re upset that someone offended him when another set of “academics” won’t apologize to three young men they wrongly condemned - in writing - as rapists before there was ever a trial?
Just what the hell is wrong with these people?

sedan
01-09-2008, 03:06 PM
What kind of blog takes an Iranian press agency at it's word?

LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 03:16 PM
In the student ran Columbia newspaper there was an article where the school president Lee Bollinger directed the head of Islamic studies that this trip be listed as a private trip and have no affiliation with the school itself. It will also be investigated upon their return to see if any school funds,or benefits were used for this trip.http://www.columbiaspectator.com/ (its archived so you have to look for it)

sedan
01-09-2008, 03:28 PM
In the student ran Columbia newspaper there was an article where the school president Lee Bollinger directed the head of Islamic studies that this trip be listed as a private trip and have no affiliation with the school itself. It will also be investigated upon their return to see if any school funds,or benefits were used for this trip.http://www.columbiaspectator.com/ (its archived so you have to look for it)Tell you what -- you look for it and post the link.

BTW, there's something really odd about the way your browser copies and pastes. When I click on the above link it clearly shows the source of the article is the Mehr News Agency (MNA). Yet somehow, when you pasted the same article into this thread (MNA) mysteriously became (AP). Nothing else in the entire text of the article has been altered except for this. I don't think I've ever seen this particular glitch before.

Napsterbater
01-09-2008, 04:41 PM
That is an interesting anomaly, sedan. Good eyes.

LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 04:59 PM
Tell you what -- you look for it and post the link..

i didn't post the Columbia article as a retort or basis for any point i was going to make in the past present or future. I made a simple mention of said article in case anyone wanted to read up more on it they could of the research.

I could post a picture of Jesus walking on water,parting the river ahead of him,while slowly turning it into wine... with the leaders of the top ten countries of the world in the back round on bleachers with doves looking on and your going to want a link to prove it is infarct doves and not pigeons in the picture..... You miss the big picture,or fail to acknowledge it only to get caught up over something small and minuet and insignificant for no real apparent reason.

\ Nothing else in the entire text of the article has been altered except for this. I don't think I've ever seen this particular glitch before. That page is full of links leading to copies of the same story.. Since your playing sherlock Homles you can see i got it from another poster from another site. I did not pretend to the author of this article nor did i lead anyone to believe that. Below are two links to the site i got it from,and the poster i got it from.
I got it from www.sayanythingblog.com (http://www.sayanythingblog.com/) and www.sayanythingblog.com/pilgram.com (http://www.sayanythingblog.com/pilgram.com)



If you find something different between the two, or anything else on this whole subject....then follow this link admin@blogrescue.com (admin@blogrescue.com)


I also looked under the FAQ and found out if you disbelieve something you reason on that particular message board or any mother blog style site than you have a choice to either ignore it and move on,or to post a reply and counter said made point. I think you could make a fine addition to sayanythingblog.com. I personally do not post there much but a do read it maybe once or twice a week. I will look for you there.




P.S I am also ignoringthe fact you implied I myself had a hand in being shady in posting such an article. why would one link back an article to the original if they themself doctored it? Especially when there are great posters here who like to collect links like yourself. Tell me Sedan what do you do with all these links?place them in jars and store them on the shelf? or entwine them in a huge ball like rubber bands or foil.

DarkFantasy96
01-09-2008, 05:07 PM
Tell me Sedan what do you do with all these links?place them in jars and store them on the shelf? or entwine them in a huge ball like rubber bands or foil.
:lolhit: Are you drunk? High? ::imagines links made into a rubber band ball:: Heehee.

LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 05:11 PM
I did check this and Sedan is correct,,,,,, the poster from Pilgrim and the source from sayanythingblog.com have a different source. Sayanythingblog had the source,date,and time,,,,,while poster pligram has excluded the date and time and has a different source....

I guess it is my fault for not checking up ,but i put all links to these sources up. how am i supposed to know what one is real and what is not.

I guess I will go back to jiggling asses as signatures rather than try to man two forums at the same time. My bad Sedan

LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 05:13 PM
:lolhit: Are you drunk? High? ::imagines links made into a rubber band ball:: Heehee.


believe it or not Df I am stone cold sober for 34 days. Might not seem like much,but wow talk about looking at things differantly. i dont know if you have an addiction or just like to get fucked up.... but when you stay fucked up for so long and you let things clear out... WOW... things are much more vivid in reality then fiction

DarkFantasy96
01-09-2008, 05:19 PM
believe it or not Df I am stone cold sober for 34 days. Might not seem like much,but wow talk about looking at things differantly. i dont know if you have an addiction or just like to get fucked up.... but when you stay fucked up for so long and you let things clear out... WOW... things are much more vivid in reality then fiction
I know what you mean. I've never been enough of a drunk to have such a huge change when I got sober, but I had a similar experience with coke - except it was kind of the opposite. Everything is much LESS vivid, less exciting. Perhaps that's why I've always been kind of a fan of the uppers more than the downers.

mikezila
01-09-2008, 05:20 PM
believe it or not Df I am stone cold sober for 34 days.
why? you're taking the wind out of my sails to keep my resolution to drink more:(

LiquidFork
01-09-2008, 05:28 PM
why? you're taking the wind out of my sails to keep my resolution to drink more:(

Sorry mike... your going to have to go at it alone. I am out of the drinking game... anyone in houston want the remainder of my home bar? I have it locked in a footlocker at the bottom of my closet... here is a pic of itmostly before i broke it downhttp://www.tmobilepictures.com/photo/photo12/b1/27/94786ee7e994.jpg?tw=305&th=228&_rh=c4kvh9anj60cvfr97mep0d0cs

DarkFantasy96
01-09-2008, 05:32 PM
Goddamn... wish I lived in Houston!

BorgHunter
01-09-2008, 05:35 PM
Goddamn... wish I lived in Houston!
It looks like quite a collection.That'd probably take me a few years to get through...

sedan
01-09-2008, 05:39 PM
i didn't post the Columbia article as a retort or basis for any point i was going to make in the past present or future. I made a simple mention of said article in case anyone wanted to read up more on it they could of the research.Nonsense. You were responding to my point about the blog taking the word of an Iranian news agency. So you said there was a story somewhere that independently confirms what your original post says -- but you don't provide it. Asking someone else to do the research that supports your point is ludicrous. Do it yourself or don't bring it up in the first place.I think you could make a fine addition to sayanythingblog.com. I personally do not post there much but a do read it maybe once or twice a week. I will look for you there.I have no desire to mess with those whackos -- having you here is enough for me. :)P.S I am also ignoringthe fact you implied I myself had a hand in being shady in posting such an article.Ha ha! This is ignoring?? why would one link back an article to the original if they themself doctored it? I asked myself the same thing -- that's why I didn't flat out accuse you of doctoring the article.I guess I will go back to jiggling asses as signatures rather than try to man two forums at the same time. My bad SedanI loved that sig.

Anyhow, I have no trouble believing that a group of Columbia academics (from Islamic Studies, no less) want to apologize to Ahmadinejad. But I seriously doubt the story as told by the Iranians is the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Someone over at sayanything saw fit to doctor the article to make it appear more legitimate. That's pretty dishonest and somewhat typical of political extremists everywhere. You chose to post the article here -- no one made you do it. When you post articles from a nutjob site you should expect a bit of scrutiny from the other members here.

That said, it's good to have you back, sober or not. :)

Mr. Shaman
01-09-2008, 06:02 PM
Isn’t it amazing how these “academics” will fly all the way to Iran to deliver slobbering kisses all over the rear of a dictator that presides over the [/COLOR]medieval mutilation and murder of his own people (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/iran_carries_out_amputations_on_criminals_of_both_ a_hand_and_a_foot/)[COLOR=black]...
I guess you'd prefer they visit with our good-friends; The Saudis (http://www.amnestyusa.org/By_Country/Saudi_Arabia/page.do?id=1011230&n1=3&n2=30&n3=980). :rolleyes:

The Praetorian
01-09-2008, 06:47 PM
I did check this and Sedan is correct,,,,
Always watch yourself before squaring off to Sedan. He's rarely wrong.

Freethinker
01-09-2008, 08:13 PM
NEW YORK (AP) – An academic delegation of Columbia University professors and deans of faculties plans to visit Tehran to officially apologize to Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad.

The delegation plans to express regret for the insulting remarks Columbia University President Lee Bollinger directed at Ahmadinejad on September 24 in his introductory speech, the Mehr News Agency correspondent in New York reported. Since the incident, the deans and professors from the faculties of history, anthropology, Middle Eastern studies, philosophy, and Islamic studies have criticized Bollinger’s behavior toward Ahmadinejad. A member of the delegation, who requested anonymity, said the main goal of the visit is to meet the Iranian president and officially apologize to him.

Wow.

A rare outbreak of sanity (and civility, albeit belated civility, towards an 'e-ville' Muslim) from the local yokels in the U.S.

I applaud the delegation from Columbia. Their spokesperson made rude and base remarks to Ahmadinejad. Caustic, emotional insults aimed at a guest --who was invited by Bollinger-- only demonstrated Columbia University's lack of intellect, diplomacy and social discretion. Bollinger's prejudging of Ahmadinejad's remarks and the name-calling he engaged in -- seemingly done purely to appease alumni, certain well-heeled donors and certain other conservative factions-- only shows the world how immature, how rude, and how insecure America can be.

Bollinger dragged American academia through the mud by launching those insults, and it is high time they apologized.

Has Ahmadinejad done bad or questionable things during his tenure? Well, I haven't seen him lie his country into a illegal pre-emptive war for oil {as GWB*sh has done} and cause several hundred thousand innocent people to be killed, but yes, Ahmadinejad has done some unseemly things at times.

That does not however give a university spokesman who invited him here the right to hurl insults at a world leader, especially given that we are in an international situation as volatile as the one we find ourselves in at present.

Foolsworth
01-09-2008, 08:21 PM
Tell you what -- you look for it and post the link.

BTW, there's something really odd about the way your browser copies and pastes. When I click on the above link it clearly shows the source of the article is the Mehr News Agency (MNA). Yet somehow, when you pasted the same article into this thread (MNA) mysteriously became (AP). Nothing else in the entire text of the article has been altered except for this. I don't think I've ever seen this particular glitch before.

Maybe Yuz ben influenced by the Kanamits.
- To Serve Man - { Twilight Zone episode }.
" Stop...wait!.It's a Cookbook.To Serve Man is a Cookbook."

Foolsworth
01-09-2008, 08:26 PM
Has Ahmadinejad done bad or questionable things during his tenure?

Man oh Boy are you dense.
Haven't you heard,seen,read about the things that little snotrag
does to his own people that are found to disagree with him.?
And the Women.?

LiquidFork
01-10-2008, 10:17 AM
Always watch yourself before squaring off to Sedan. He's rarely wrong.

yeah he is sure a peach...but we share tastes in jiggling asses so he is aces in my book.

Freethinker
01-10-2008, 10:24 AM
yeah he is sure a peach...but we share tastes in jiggling asses so he is aces in my book.

Hey!

I love jiggling asses too!

LiquidFork
01-10-2008, 10:32 AM
:lolhit: Ofcourse.... that jiggling ass was the only way i could get you guys to read my posts for the longest time!!!

Freethinker
01-10-2008, 10:36 AM
:lolhit: Ofcourse.... that jiggling ass was the only way i could get you guys to read my posts for the longest time!!!

I didn't see it. No offense, but I find your animated gifs so annoying and distracting that I have them all blocked. Sorry.

LiquidFork
01-10-2008, 10:39 AM
i only have one.. not risqué,not large in size..not real distacting..... your whole animated gifs on a political forums is like a circus in the lobby of a library analogy did have some effect on me. I have tones it down since,much tothe dissapointment of a few posters,but i am sure to the joy of more

Freethinker
01-10-2008, 10:46 AM
i only have one.. not risqué,not large in size..not real distacting.....

In the past though, they have been fairly large, and to me all of them are extremely distracting.

Just saying.

Put up any you like though. I can block them, so no harm no foul.

LiquidFork
01-10-2008, 10:52 AM
well i have a personality that tend to be a little excessive and extreme... i do go overboard... sometimes becoming more grounded via another's observation is a good idea

Freethinker
01-10-2008, 10:59 AM
well i have a personality that tend to be a little excessive and extreme...

Good for you. I consider that a positive attribute. Extremism and excess are proof you're alive and kicking.

Keep the bizarre animations coming if you like....it doesn't bother me now that i have AdBlock and can make them invisible.

I just don't like peripheral movement when i'm trying to read and concentrate.

Mr. Shaman
01-10-2008, 11:04 AM
Has Ahmadinejad done bad or questionable things during his tenure?

Man oh Boy are you dense.
Haven't you heard,seen,read about the things that little snotrag
does to his own people that are found to disagree with him.?
And the Women.?
Please.

Ahmadinejad has the same "power", in Iran, that Lil' Dumbya had as Governor of Texas; ZIP!!

In Texas, the Lt. Governor has all the power, and in Iran, it's the mullahs.

The Praetorian
01-11-2008, 12:21 PM
In Texas, the Lt. Governor has all the power, and in Iran, it's the mullahs.
Who Ahmadinejad's a mouthpiece for.

Freethinker
01-11-2008, 12:48 PM
Who 's a mouthpiece for.

In some instances, the mullahs.

As when he noted what one of them had said concerning the regime in Jerusalem.

But I still have not seen or heard of Ahmadinejad doing anything 1/1000th as despicable or as underhanded or as murderous as what our own Idiot Son has perpetrated. I have seen no sign whatsoever of him lying his country and his people into a disastrous, illegal pre-emptive war for oil and causing several hundred thousand innocent people to be killed.

The Praetorian
01-11-2008, 01:09 PM
But I still have not seen or heard of Ahmadinejad doing anything 1/1000th as despicable or as underhanded or as murderous as what our own Idiot Son has perpetrated. I have seen no sign whatsoever of him lying his country and his people into a disastrous, illegal pre-emptive war for oil and causing several hundred thousand innocent people to be killed.
Because he lacks the military might and requisite funding. Barring our military might, you, along with everyone in Israel, would be dead in a heartbeat if he had either. What Bush has done in Iraq would pale in comparison.

Freethinker
01-11-2008, 01:30 PM
Barring our military might, you, along with everyone in Israel, would be dead in a heartbeat if he (Ahmadinejad) had either.

Guffaw.

Pure prophecy, and one which has no evidence to back it up that i have ever seen.

Where do you get off saying that Ahmadinejad would kill me, here in the middle of America?? How on earth do you think he'd accomplish that?? You're obviously suggesting that if he had nuclear weapons, he'd immediately drop them on Israel and the U.S.

It is to laugh.

What do you possibly have to back up such an allegation?!?!?

Mr. Shaman
01-11-2008, 01:37 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/webpics/Miss_Cleo.jpg

Barring our military might, you, along with everyone in Israel, would be dead in a heartbeat if he had either.

The Praetorian
01-11-2008, 02:38 PM
Guffaw.

Pure prophecy, and one which has no evidence to back it up that i have ever seen.
Sure, it's speculation, but when I'm talking to a man who thinks we're all "little Eichmanns", I become painfully aware that "seeing" the evidence is ancillary. I mean, seriously - what would you like to "see" (beyond what you already believe)....NYC turned into a crater? If Ahmadinejad were to actually attach the Iranian flag to the bomb in question, you'd still probably accuse our government of maleficence. From what you've said in the past, it really doesn't matter, because everyone in the milieu of academia already knows that we had it coming either way, right, Ward?

In short, I'm convinced you give radicals a bad name.
Where do you get off saying that Ahmadinejad would kill me, here in the middle of America?? How on earth do you think he'd accomplish that?? You're obviously suggesting that if he had nuclear weapons, he'd immediately drop them on Israel and the U.S.
Barring our military (or Israel's, for that matter), if he had the capability, what makes you think he wouldn't?
What do you possibly have to back up such an allegation?!?!?
Well, firstly, I'd say referencing the words he's used in the past is a fairly good indicator. When tens of thousands rally around him holding signs that read, "death to America and Israel" (while he smiles and waves to these scumbags)....well, then, it's pretty cut and dried, IMHO. Naturally, I suppose it's high time to cue the Farsi defense. :rolleyes:

Of course, in your opinion, I suppose it's okay for him to act like this when we have a president in office you hate, right? Ahmadinejad's a "peaceful" man, eh? I mean, it's not like he's ever gone to war, bombed an embassy, or killed anyone for the wrong reason....because, after all, YOU understand his motivation.