ok, although i am part white, black, and american indian, i am told i am still considered a squatter by a lot of indians. sorry, i wasn't raised on a rez dear sir and/or madam.
i have ancestors buried here. another reason i won't leave.
and i do not see the american government as legal. they broke all the treaties, so i see them null and void. and i see the last "legal" thing done before the enception of the american government was the 1763 royal proclamation. which would make the american "legal" border at the crest of the blue ridge mountains and that is east of my position. i do not legally live in america.
so, i am willing to pay a occupation fee.
i do not "own" land,or a home. so that leaves it as a personal fee. and i think $10 a year is fair. when or if i "own" land or a home, i will send more.
so, i do believe that the nation that claimed the territory where i live was the Tsalagi (cherokee) , i will contact the eastern cherokee tribal office and get an address to send my fee in every year.
i think that's fair.

Why would you pay a fee to be occupied? How is that fair?
Are we charging the Iraqis one?

ok, although i am part white, black, and american indian, i am told i am still considered a squatter by a lot of indians. sorry, i wasn't raised on a rez dear sir and/or madam.
i have ancestors buried here. another reason i won't leave.
and i do not see the american government as legal. they broke all the treaties, so i see them null and void. and i see the last "legal" thing done before the enception of the american government was the 1763 royal proclamation. which would make the american "legal" border at the crest of the blue ridge mountains and that is east of my position. i do not legally live in america.
so, i am willing to pay a occupation fee.
i do not "own" land,or a home. so that leaves it as a personal fee. and i think $10 a year is fair. when or if i "own" land or a home, i will send more.
so, i do believe that the nation that claimed the territory where i live was the Tsalagi (cherokee) , i will contact the eastern cherokee tribal office and get an address to send my fee in every year.
i think that's fair.

ok, you do that and let us know when you get out of jail and/or find a new place to live:slap:

we are not being occupied, "we" are occupying land that we have no legal right to. since the federal government, and the BIA is just a big ripoff, direct payment to the tribes involved would be much better. probably be cheaper than the taxes we pay.

now, how and why would i go to jail mikezilla?

ok, although i am part white, black, and american indian, i am told i am still considered a squatter by a lot of indians. sorry, i wasn't raised on a rez dear sir and/or madam.
i have ancestors buried here. another reason i won't leave.
and i do not see the american government as legal. they broke all the treaties, so i see them null and void. and i see the last "legal" thing done before the enception of the american government was the 1763 royal proclamation. which would make the american "legal" border at the crest of the blue ridge mountains and that is east of my position. i do not legally live in america.
so, i am willing to pay a occupation fee.
i do not "own" land,or a home. so that leaves it as a personal fee. and i think $10 a year is fair. when or if i "own" land or a home, i will send more.
so, i do believe that the nation that claimed the territory where i live was the Tsalagi (cherokee) , i will contact the eastern cherokee tribal office and get an address to send my fee in every year.
i think that's fair.

Put the pipe down and slowly back away, darlin. And while you're at it, email me some of that stuff you grow east of the crest of the blue ridge mountains. Must be some good sh*t!

;)
SMW

we are not being occupied, "we" are occupying land that we have no legal right to. since the federal government, and the BIA is just a big ripoff, direct payment to the tribes involved would be much better. probably be cheaper than the taxes we pay.

now, how and why would i go to jail mikezilla?
tax evasion...depending on how far you intend on taking this.

i do not "own" land,or a home. so that leaves it as a personal fee.
Clearly, we're missing out on an otherwise massive contribution.
so, i am willing to pay a occupation fee....and i think $10 a year is fair.
No one gives a shit if YOU think it's fair, stoner. Play by the rules, or go to jail - it's your choice.
i do not see the american government as legal.
Because that's what counts...:rolleyes:

And the dumbest thread of the year goes to.....

Put the pipe down and slowly back away, darlin. And while you're at it, email me some of that stuff you grow east of the crest of the blue ridge mountains. Must be some good sh*t!

;)
SMW

sorry hon, i don't live in america. that's east of my position. i live west of the crest of the blue ridge mountains.

sorry hon, i don't live in america. that's east of my position. i live west of the crest of the blue ridge mountains.
The area surrounding, and to the west of the Blue Ridge Mountain territory is in the US, Einstein. Do you honestly believe your stance here has any merit? :rolleyes: Ya know what - it doesn't matter; you don't pay any taxes and you don't own a home – hence, I think it's a fairly safe bet to say that no one cares what you believe. You're a criminal (who's probably in desperate need of a shower and a shave, but I digress), and consequently, you should be treated like one. Speaking of which, I was wondering if you'd like a free blanket to usher in the New Year? Lemme know, and I'll send you one as soon as I can.

Pfffft - I'm done in this pathetic thread.

Not that it matters now, but have you studied American history in any detail, Prae? The United States has done some pretty underhanded (many outright illegal) things to expand in the past. If you're looking at legal claims to the land, our claim is suspect in many, many areas. However, it's hardly a serious matter at this point, because after occupying the land for hundreds of years it is definitely ours.

not legally DF.
when a treaty is broken everything revert back to the recent legal. which at this time is the 1763 royal proclamation.
sending occupation fees to the nation that the territory you live on is more reliable than the B.I.A.. if america and others coughed up the money owed to every nation just about every tribe could be self sufficient, and have the money to start up what they need for manufacturing, etc..
the government now and in the past has handed over just enough for those first nations to barely survive on. and the treaties said, as long as the water flows and the grass grows. all those treaties are worthless peices of paper.

Speaking of which, I was wondering if you'd like a free blanket to usher in the New Year? Lemme know, and I'll send you one as soon as I can.
Where you gonna get the smallpox?

Where you gonna get the smallpox?
don't need the pox

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as long as we have SARS.

we are not being occupied, "we" are occupying land that we have no legal right to. since the federal government, and the BIA is just a big ripoff, direct payment to the tribes involved would be much better. probably be cheaper than the taxes we pay.

Don't count on it. Leasing/purchasing fee lands from a tribe must be sanctioned through the BIA. Crooked as the BIA is, you'd be much more at risk entering into any sort of private treaty/contract with a tribe.

Haven't you paid any attention to the things I've told you (http://allforums.net/showpost.php?p=433340&postcount=7) about the Crow (http://allforums.net/showpost.php?p=434139&postcount=11)?

* shakes head *

i don't care. i will send the tsalagi people $10 a year for just being on their land that i have no legal right to be on in the first place.
and the BIA can kiss my ass. worthless peices of shit.

i don't care. i will send the tsalagi people $10 a year for just being on their land that i have no legal right to be on in the first place.
and the BIA can kiss my ass. worthless peices of shit.
:lolhit: best of luck with that.

However, it's hardly a serious matter at this point, because after occupying the land for hundreds of years it is definitely ours.
Which is why it's patently ludicrous in the extreme to argue the point, or even moreover, to "take a stance against it" for moralistic reasons. That's all I meant. I'm not arguing over the minutia of "why" our period of expansion could've been considered questionable in the milieu of academia; it's a MOOT point as of 2008, end of story. IOW, fight the US government, and you're gonna go to jail, but for a man who owns nothing at 40, I guess it's a worthwhile endeavor. :rolleyes:

How sad....

eat shit slave. but seriously, the B.I.A., the government, made promises in those treaties and they are not upheld. the people get a pittance of what is owed, and a box of commidity cheese. the government and B.I.A. are inefficieant, and full of shit as you are. go directly through the tribe.

great waves are made with small ripples.

eat shit slave.
"Slave", eh?!? LOL!
the people get a pittance of what is owed...
What have they contributed? We built the world's largest economy here, and all of the sudden you people want your 'just desserts', right....? I suppose "fair" in your estimation is a sizeable portion of our GDP, eh?

Give me a fuckin' break. :rolleyes:
...and a box of commidity cheese.
Sounds generous enough to me. Consider it payment for the corn and turkey, Tanto.