We all know the Mayan Calender ends at 2012... and you can find it in those "bible codes", which aren't very reliable... but with all that being said - Do you think there is enough evidence around you resembling the "end times" that the book or revelation described? In some instances I would say absolutely, in others I'm not so sure.

sure, why not? good a date as any.

I wonder how many times a person said the end of the world is coming on a specific date and people actually bought it and then found out they had been taken?

5,389,456,295,091 times. I googled it. :)

I wonder how many times a person said the end of the world is coming on a specific date and people actually bought it and then found out they had been taken?
since we're still here, i'd say quite a few.

www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm-58k (http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm-58k)

I'd say this date... more than any.. has some significance... but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/mist_404.htm

www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm-58k (http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm-58k)



thanks for the pop ups from that link AFT


anyways,if the world is going to end,it's going to end. Not a darn thing anyone can do about it either. Do I want to know when? No,I don't cause I'd just obsess over all the things I never got around to doing.

why do i get the 404?:(

why do i get the 404?:(


it goes to the site,but the address line says 404 on my screen too
I didn't give it a chance to get too far when my pop blocker started screaming at me

We all know the Mayan Calender ends at 2012

Call me dumb but I didn't know that.

... and you can find it in those "bible codes", which aren't very reliable...

The only reliable part is the part where I reliably will not be checking the reliability of "bible codes"

but with all that being said - Do you think there is enough evidence around you resembling the "end times" that the book or revelation described? In some instances I would say absolutely, in others I'm not so sure.

No, I see no evidence of that, but there is a lot of evidence that suggests people have been anticipating the "end times" for a long time.

The "end times" is a crock of shite no less, right up there with the "rapture" and so forth. I can never understand people's facination with the end of the world - all one can summize is their life sucks.

Drew, I think the end of the world is fascinating.. and my life doesn't "suck"... So I guess I either disspell your theory or am just the exception.

"It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine."
-Michael Stripe

Words of wisdom right there.

But seriously. The world was supposed end 1000 times over already. Were all still here. Dec 21, 2012 will pass without a hitch, I already put my money up on it in Vegas.

I'd say this date... more than any.. has some significance... .

why?

The only thing "mysterious" with december 21st 2012 is that the our solar system passes the galactic equator as it has done a few thousand times already since our sun ignited 4.5 billion years ago.

The only thing "mysterious" with december 21st 2012 is that the our solar system passes the galactic equator as it has done a few thousand times already since our sun ignited 4.5 billion years ago.
how many times has it done it since the dawn of man? we only occupy a sort span of earth's history. it would only take a fraction of volcanoes erupting at once to make earth uninhabitable for us :(

still, the Mayan calendar doesn't really "end", it predicts a major change. the "bible code" predicts a comet strike in 2012, if the major quake in southern CA happens in 2010, getting things off your "to do" list might seem more urgent.


(i don't really look into this sort of thing, it's just been on the history channel a lot lately)

how many times has it done it since the dawn of man? we only occupy a sort span of earth's history. it would only take a fraction of volcanoes erupting at once to make earth uninhabitable for us :(

still, the Mayan calendar doesn't really "end", it predicts a major change. the "bible code" predicts a comet strike in 2012, if the major quake in southern CA happens in 2010, getting things off your "to do" list might seem more urgent.


(i don't really look into this sort of thing, it's just been on the history channel a lot lately)

I think it happens every 5000 or so years and the Mayans put the creation of the world at the beginning of this cycle, and I guess that is why they think it will en in 2012. I remember seeing some program on discovery/NGC a while back about mayan astronomy.

Although I'd like a few more years to enjoy my life (it's improved dramatically the last few years and looks damned good for the future), I can honestly say it wouldn't bother me in the least to be vaporized (or whatever) along with the rest of humanity, should that come to pass.

I have absolutely NO regrets.

Plus, I think the earth could use a break from us crawling all over its skin and messing it up... :)

I don't want to die in 2012! If it has to happen, I wish I could know for sure in advance... So instead of cleaning my life up and going down the responsible grown up path I could just spend the next 5 years partying.

Spoken like a true student-well done DF :)

Now-whats this Galactic Equator ?

I would actually do the opposite of DF

Go on Decka-lets hear it.

Have to say I'm with DF on this one :)

:banana: :banana: :banana:

With all these cgristians here wishing me to hell, I might as well have some fun :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFGrQMD6Uqc

I don't want to die in 2012! If it has to happen, I wish I could know for sure in advance... So instead of cleaning my life up and going down the responsible grown up path I could just spend the next 5 years partying.
you can do both. being responsible and having a good time are not mutually exclusive:thumbs:

Have to say I'm with DF on this one :)

:banana: :banana: :banana:

With all these cgristians here wishing me to hell, I might as well have some fun :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFGrQMD6Uqc
no one wants you to go to hell:flowers:

some just feel like they have a better chance of scaring you away from there, than luring you to the light.

no one wants you to go to hell:flowers:

some just feel like they have a better chance of scaring you away from there, than luring you to the light.

Actually, if it existed, hell would be where all the cool people were :)
AC/DC concerts and everything!

Spoken like a true student-well done DF :)

Now-whats this Galactic Equator ?
just what it sounds like...the center of the Milky Way.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_coordinate_system

Actually, if it existed, hell would be where all the cool people were :)
AC/DC concerts and everything!
no, you've got to earn Hell, and the ppl that earn it you don't want to be around.:(

Not the center, the plane of the disc...
For those who have a disc that is. We do, the milkyway is a class SBb I think :)

no, you've got to earn Hell, and the ppl that earn it you don't want to be around.:(

Been around the scare tactic all my life, kinda immune :)

If you think "hell" is "AC/DC" concerts... wow....

As for Paul's asking of what I would do... I wouldn't "party it up".. that life really has nothing to offer. I would go off on my own and try to find peace with myself and the world. I would try to release any hatred or social habits I had, and try to follow God to the best of my ability.

Funny that I'm talking on what I "would" do, because I am actually DOING this, and have been for the past few months.

From your above post Decka, Id guess your single and NO kids.

Ya need a different angle on it when you have children.

I hope you find the inner peace your looking for.

if people would open their eyes and look, the mayan calender is CIRCULAR. there is no end. just change.

Which means what-Ron Paul in 12.

:lolhit: Good one, Paul. I dunno, maybe 2012 will be the year future historians argue over as the "end of the American empire", like we do now about the Romans. Sure hope not though!

i really dont believe in that end of the world stuff.tons of ppl have predicted it before and it never happened.thats not really WHY i dont believe it,its just that im pretty sure the world isnt going to end until millions of years from now.it also may be that bc when i think of the world ending,to me that means the world dies.everything is gone.theres no more earth.at all.and yeah again,im sure that wont be happpening for a while.but!you never knowww...........:P

If you think "hell" is "AC/DC" concerts... wow....

Are you suggesting you know what hell is like?
It's an imaginary place, so I have as much say about it as anyone else :)

If you're talking strictly from the bible, Jesus says, he will come like a thief in the night. He also says, no one will know when but God.

Me personally, as a Christian I think Jesus will return soon, I just couldnt give you a date. So, 2012 is as good a date as any.

I suggest we chang Prince's "party like its 1999" to Party like its 2011.

Yeah, you guys just sit around and wait for Jesus to come get yah :)

If you're talking strictly from the bible, Jesus says, he will come like a thief in the night. He also says, no one will know when but God.


The person known as "Jesus" is claimed to have said a lot of things..........many of which he later contradicted by saying something the virtual opposite.

It seems to me that any supposed "son of the creator of the universe" would possess the strength of intellect to not go around continually contradicting what he'd said previously.

The writers who concocted the "son of god" myth needed to have gotten their stories a little straighter between themselves before they began spinning the tale.

The writers who concocted the "son of god" myth needed to have gotten their stories a little straighter between themselves before they began spinning the tale.

Not to mention translating the prophecies the stories was supposed to fulfill correctly, they failed there too...

Not to mention translating the prophecies the stories was supposed to fulfill correctly, they failed there too...

There are so many failed prophecies in the Bible it boggles the mind how any human being could put any real credence in what it says.

There are so many failed prophecies in the Bible it boggles the mind how any human being could put any real credence in what it says.

There is one that I like tho, that one where they all suddenly disappear :D

All right Decka is asking if you can see some evidence when the world is about to end; and he says he surely did see some. But Inviolable says that according to god this will happen "like a thief at night", implying that you can't really predict it based on some observation.

Which one is it?

All right Decka is asking if you can see some evidence when the world is about to end; and he says he surely did see some. But Inviolable says that according to god this will happen "like a thief at night", implying that you can't really predict it based on some observation.

Which one is it?

:rolleyes:

There is about the same amount of empirical and tangible evidence that the *world is about to end* as there is for the existence of some invisible, omnipotent supernatural deity.

IOW..........zero.

All right Decka is asking if you can see some evidence when the world is about to end; and he says he surely did see some. But Inviolable says that according to god this will happen "like a thief at night", implying that you can't really predict it based on some observation.

Which one is it?

Well, according to the interpretation (one of several equally founded on the bible) that those "Left Behind" series lunatics subscribe to, there are a few signs who will lead up to the seven year period who ends in armageddon. But it is clearly stated no one will know the exact time. Brilliant control tactic to keep religious people on their toes...

Decka, can you list those "evidence" that you saw?

All right Decka is asking if you can see some evidence when the world is about to end; and he says he surely did see some. But Inviolable says that according to god this will happen "like a thief at night", implying that you can't really predict it based on some observation.

Which one is it?

Well, the end is described, in that respect there is evidence.
Jesus also said his followers would recognize what he was talking about.
I've seen some things myself that put me on the same list as Decka.

I guess the point is, we can know when "soon" is near but not when "exactly" is going to be.

What did I just say?
There are more Christians saying, we are near, now. Then any other time I personally can remember.
"This is what it means, to come like a thief in the night."

Here.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm

There are more Christians saying, we are near, now. Then any other time I personally can remember.

They've been saying that for all my life, my parents life and my grandparents life. Even the apostles said it. So good luck waiting :)

They've been saying that for all my life, my parents life and my grandparents life. Even the apostles said it. So good luck waiting :)
Thats why I said, "More now" but you're right, it dont mean anything.
A little thief'ee.
I bet they were totally into it in the 1600's and in 70 A.D.

The link I left, says what you did only it goes into great detail.

Yeah, you guys just sit around and wait for Jesus to come get yah :)


Yeah as I said before: It is amazing what the human mind can convince itself of anything. The bible has been proven to be a myth, but these guys just keep believing and not even looking at ANY other ideas of how the bible could have come about, etc. It is a useless topic. They can believe it as long as they don't try to fucking "spread the word" to me or innocent children - especially college kids (yes college kids are vulnerable). That's what they do, they go out and target mostly college kids. I guess they are now going after the high school kids too. That, by the way, was also a very clever tactic - "spreading the word". what a joke!

So good luck waiting :)
not waiting, just ready. the end of my "world" could come at any minute, or when i'm 80.