It's not true... One of my favorite tactics when an argument starts with my boyfriend is to just shut up. I just stop talking. Eventually he does the same, and then we forget about it.


Same in my relationship. If it's really serious then it might get a "discussion". Otherwise it's a whatever and then 5 mintues later we are talking about something else and over it.

And we are good at turning an argument into a joke. We dont stay mad at each other for very long.

Well, the quote wasn't supposed to be taken seriously :)
When a discussion becomes pointless, I just stop. No one in my family remember them for long anyway.

To your credit, you understand women well.


Hmm.Wood dat explain Mr.Batch Limbaugh.
?

To your credit, you understand women well.
I'd rather be alone than with a woman that argumentative. If a woman has to have the last word every single time, they can de-ball some other dipshit. I sure hope it's not you.

I'd rather be alone than with a woman that argumentative. If a woman has to have the last word every single time, they can de-ball some other dipshit. I sure hope it's not you.

Hi Napster and wecome to this topic :)

Based on my experience Napster is right. And I spent alot of my life alone because of the reasons that he stated. But it was worth it. There is a woman for every man, it is just a matter of patience. Of course when a man finds that woman he should love her and give her periodically some manly but affectionate "hugs". Women like to be actually loved by their man. And they do like "their" loving hugs.

And that was a rough one for me :) but I don't want to loose my woman and when she is happy, I am happy! And so what are a few loving hugs in the grand scheme of reality. :)

Love!

tuck

There is a woman for every man, it is just a matter of patience. Of course when a man finds that woman he should love her and give her periodically some manly but affectionate "hugs". Women like to be actually loved by their man. And they do like "their" loving hugs.





theres someone for everyone and yes,if you wait and are patient,you'll find them. I'd rather spend my time with someone having a conversation not arguing. And even though you men won't admit it,you all like getting those "loving hugs" from us too.

I've been thinking, lately, I have been getting more and more sure in my lack of beliefs. The belief in a supernatural being seems so absolutely silly to me lately. It's just so glaringly obvious to me what role religion fills in society, and while it's a very interesting one, trust me folks, it's a complete and utter delusion. I'd bet my life on it. (Ha...)

What's interesting about it, though, is that religion is a delusion each individual mind create. There are many factors that go into it, but the one overriding factor that makes a religion a religion is answering the question of what happens when we die. That's why religion exists, because most people are too egoistic to accept the fact that when they die, they will simply cease to be. And really, who can blame someone for creating a happy delusion where eternal life (or, in some religions, reincarnation) flows freely from the fountain of youth?

I think that we, as a species, are probably genetically predisposed to be religious. It probably came up a couple tens of thousands of years ago and offered some sort of protective effect, though bear in mind that this is a mere hypothesis. I can say with every confidence, however, that God does not exist. If he does, may he strike down the plane I shall be taking tomorrow morning.

I'll talk to you folks when I get back to Florida.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Borghunter Sir, cool topic! I was perusing things and found Napster responding to your topic. I had to see what that boy was up to :)

Religion as a Psychology and a Philosophy as a way of life has many levels and directions. Most of those levels and directions :) nobody! With any sanity, would ever agree too it. Nobody!

God Said! Is only said by people who do not know God. If God actually says something (Jesus is never quoted saying,"God Said!"), because there are no words to explain to others what He/She/It said. With true information from God there is just an understanding. The absolute best that you can come to explaining that understanding is something that comes out "ZEN" or a "Parable". :) Yah, "God Said!" :) and I am going to tell you about it, I don't think so :)

Love! tuck

theres someone for everyone and yes,if you wait and are patient,you'll find them. I'd rather spend my time with someone having a conversation not arguing. And even though you men won't admit it,you all like getting those "loving hugs" from us too.

Michelle you are a women, I am a man. All we men want is "sex" and a "hot" meal (oh yah :) and maybe beer). You are not wrong about that. But :) no loving "hug" (and "Oh my God" not "thank you!"), then no "sex" and no "hot" meal (I don't know how Napster is going to handle that one :) ).

My third wife changed me! And I am happy about it. I even hug the dog and other people! And total strangers on the internet! This loving hug stuff is interesting and I think based on personal experience that there should be more of it. Yes it is not a guy thing :)

Love you!

tuck

About arguing, I came from a family that argued (actually pretty loudly). My wife didn't. Now I have to come to All Forums.net to argue :) I ain't allowed to at home :) ! And I actually don't mind. We have been married twenty-one years. I am a work in progress :) and I like how things are going! And if anybody tells me I am "Pussy" whipped, I will tear them a new asshole! Women can be fun to live with :) ! They even bring home beer!

I think this quote describes men accurately.

" Men are simple things. They can survive a whole weekend with only three things: beer, boxer shorts and batteries for the remote control."

:D

lol
Now you're discussing a silly quote I found on a website, now stop derailing this interesting topic! :)

I think this quote describes men accurately.

" Men are simple things. They can survive a whole weekend with only three things: beer, boxer shorts and batteries for the remote control."

:D

Pinkster is right :) ! Hey, I am a guy and I love it! It is like Mae West said, "Treat men like a little boy with a little splinter in his finger and they are happy."

The thing is that most men were/are raised by a women and alot of women are un happy about the results :)

Love you Pinkster!

tuck

lol
Now you're discussing a silly quote I found on a website, now stop derailing this interesting topic! :)

Angel, you as the only rational person here :) please put us back on "topic" and we will have a look at things :) ! No problema!

Love you!

tuck

Angel, you as the only rational person here :) please put us back on "topic" and we will have a look at things :) ! No problema!

Love you!

tuck

Only rational person? Nah...
Anyway, the topic got boring :)

On to the next one!

lol
Now you're discussing a silly quote I found on a website, now stop derailing this interesting topic! :)

:)

Only rational person? Nah...
Anyway, the topic got boring :)

On to the next one!

:)

Angel, you are accusing Pink and I of deraling this topic because we responded to something that you said, which was off topic/thread. You Angel, personally have accused Pink and I of "thread Jacking", which is serious on this messageboard :) !

And now you, "Angel", are now claiming that this thread is "dead" anyway. :) You create an interesting reality "Angel Sweetheart", "Is a "Dead Thread" actually "Thread Jacked" if one posts in it, "Off Topic"?

You were personally asked to forgive us for being "Off Topic" and "you" then, were personally asked to please bring it back on to topic. With that, you then, personally declared this topic dead. :)

Angel, I know that you are very busy with University stuff, but at the sametime, "Why are you jerking us around?"

Love,

tuck

Angel, you are accusing Pink and I of deraling this topic because we responded to something that you said, which was off topic/thread. You Angel, personally have accused Pink and I of "thread Jacking", which is serious on this messageboard :) !

There is a good chance a signature will be off topic in most topics...
Yes, they were discussing my signature! PAY ATTENTION OLD MAN :)

lol
Now you're discussing a silly quote I found on a website, now stop derailing this interesting topic! :)
:(

Sorry, Angelina - I didn't mean for that to happen. OTOH, it is kinda funny...;)

There is a good chance a signature will be off topic in most topics...
Yes, they were discussing my signature! PAY ATTENTION OLD MAN :)

Borghunter Sir :) !? Can I post the below post :) ???

"Angel is being "Bitchy!", and she is 'yelling at me!" What in the "Hell" did I do?!"

Totally confused!!! Tucker58

lol
Now you're discussing a silly quote I found on a website, now stop derailing this interesting topic!

:(
Sorry, Angelina - I didn't mean for that to happen. OTOH, it is kinda funny...;)

Post :) !

Yah! Angel :) !

tuck

PS: I think she hates men :)

Totally confused!!! Tucker58

Alzheimers kicking in? ;)

PS: I think she hates men :)

Does not!
Only a few maybe :)

Totally confused!!!

Alzheimers kicking in? ;)

Angel, I saw that "wink!" Ain't no winks allowed :) unless that thwarts your creativity and then I guess that I am up to my "tush" in winks :) Ah man!





PS: I think she hates men


Does not!
Only a few maybe

I would be happier if you hated me personally :) there has got to be some post credits to that one :) ! When I first stepped into this mesageboard (for the third time or so time :) ), I was hated instantly by alot of folk :) It was way to much fun!

Only "Ms Croft" would see me coming and "wink" at me. I am a "Ms Croft" also, and I am raiding this tomb for all that it is worth :) Oh and I am just one of a whole bunch of people on the messageboard that are like that :) ! That is why your sig and screen presence was alot of fun. Is all.

Love you!

Altimers/Alzheirmers tuck :)

I would be happier if you hated me personally :) there has got to be some post credits to that one :) ! When I first stepped into this mesageboard (for the third time or so time :) ), I was hated instantly by alot of folk :) It was way to much fun!

Don't see any reason to hate you yet, you called me bitchy and I called you old :)
Bet there is a few people who I guess hate me already for having an opinion and not being easily put of by old rhetoric.

Only "Ms Croft" would see me coming and "wink" at me. I am a "Ms Croft" also, and I am raiding this tomb for all that it is worth :) Oh and I am just one of a whole bunch of people on the messageboard that are like that :) ! That is why your sig and screen presence was alot of fun. Is all.

Lara Croft rocks :)

Don't see any reason to hate you yet, you called me bitchy and I called you old :)
Bet there is a few people who I guess hate me already for having an opinion and not being easily put of by old rhetoric.



Lara Croft rocks :)

God help us to find a "creative reality" where "Old Rhetoric" is actually not considered "Creative" :)

About hating me, if you don't hate me (at least a little bit), then I have to be nice. We were having so much fun! Why are you trying to screw things up?! Sheesh!

I love "Lara Croft" as a personality. She takes "no shit" and is still a good person at the same time. She is a true "Hero"!

"Old tuck gets into his "Merry Walker" :) and goes "a tomb raiding" :) " God but I hope that mean old BorgHunter don't catch me and put me back in my room! Mean old BorgHunter :)

Love you angel!

tuck

Don't see any reason to hate you yet, you called me bitchy and I called you old :)

Back in the old days the object to was to piss off the other person so much that they lost it and got "banned".

Angel you were "Bitchy" and I am "old" :)

My point is that we have to keep conflict under the radar of the Admins :) I/we don't want to loose you :) But at the sametime an angry Angel is way to much fun, if one has a "blood sacrifice" smeared all over one's door :)

That (the above) might be a bit creative :) but I am damn near an "Elder" :) and I know the rules, even though I "dink" with them :) ! Ok? Just thought that you should know :) we like you! For what ever that is worth. :)

Love you!

tuck

I've been thinking, lately, I have been getting more and more sure in my lack of beliefs. The belief in a supernatural being seems so absolutely silly to me lately. It's just so glaringly obvious to me what role religion fills in society, and while it's a very interesting one, trust me folks, it's a complete and utter delusion. I'd bet my life on it. (Ha...)

What's interesting about it, though, is that religion is a delusion each individual mind create. There are many factors that go into it, but the one overriding factor that makes a religion a religion is answering the question of what happens when we die. That's why religion exists, because most people are too egoistic to accept the fact that when they die, they will simply cease to be. And really, who can blame someone for creating a happy delusion where eternal life (or, in some religions, reincarnation) flows freely from the fountain of youth?

I think that we, as a species, are probably genetically predisposed to be religious. It probably came up a couple tens of thousands of years ago and offered some sort of protective effect, though bear in mind that this is a mere hypothesis. I can say with every confidence, however, that God does not exist. If he does, may he strike down the plane I shall be taking tomorrow morning.

I'll talk to you folks when I get back to Florida.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

For sure - religion as a pastime or instution is a crock, if taken beyond the obvious human benefit of hanging out with other like minded people.

We can not say with any certainty anything much - certain truths people grow to comprehend - but if labelled with religion then a problem sometimes arises because silly enough - people sometime think a "religion" is the only way to describe what they have experienced.

I wouldn't call religion a delusion - Religious people are normally religious for one of 2 reasons

1. They grew up that way - discount these people - they never had a single thought of their own ever
2. They had some "experience" that brought them to religion. The experience is valid - the resultant fixation on one explanation as being exclusively right is where the problem arises.

Borg - don't discount the unknown, embrace that - it's the only thing that is known, but organized religion is something else & for some people it is positive - religion is not all bad, but it's not much about truth.

My point is that we have to keep conflict under the radar of the Admins :) I/we don't want to loose you :) But at the sametime an angry Angel is way to much fun, if one has a "blood sacrifice" smeared all over one's door :)

Seriously doubt you'll see me angry around here :)

For sure - religion as a pastime or instution is a crock, if taken beyond the obvious human benefit of hanging out with other like minded people.

We can not say with any certainty anything much - certain truths people grow to comprehend - but if labelled with religion then a problem sometimes arises because silly enough - people sometime think a "religion" is the only way to describe what they have experienced.

I wouldn't call religion a delusion - Religious people are normally religious for one of 2 reasons

1. They grew up that way - discount these people - they never had a single thought of their own ever
2. They had some "experience" that brought them to religion. The experience is valid - the resultant fixation on one explanation as being exclusively right is where the problem arises.

Borg - don't discount the unknown, embrace that - it's the only thing that is known, but organized religion is something else & for some people it is positive - religion is not all bad, but it's not much about truth.

Hi Drew, it is personally (at least on my part) nice to meet you. You should post more often in the religion forum (just my personal opinion, which may or may not be worth anything).

Anyway Drew, I love what you said (for what ever my opinion is worth). Religion plays with the Psychology the minds (actually both human and animal) of human beings. It just does.

"Relative" to politics, advertising, religion, and just about anybody that wants your money or vote :) (which generally is your money.) are "dinking" with your mind. All these people use psychology to do it. Psychology is a "Science" and I have studied it :) and those people are pretty slick!

"Religion as Psychology" is an awesome subject. The question is,"How do you explain to people that their minds are being "dinked" with?" Because if you do attempt to :) "You are dinking with their minds also :) !" I love that part!

So anyway again, "Yah, BorgHunter Sir :) have a look at Drew's post and lets have a look at what you have to say :) !"

Love you guys!

tuck

Seriously doubt you'll see me angry around here :)

Hi Angel :) welcome to the "wars/arena"!

I am "Lara Croft" incarnate :)

And I love this "tomb" and I love being here!

Angel :) you have defined your Personality and your weaknesses. The question to the intuitive mind from here on out is, "How do we make you feel welcome?!" All members are a gift, if management don't mind.

Love you!

Mother tuck :)

Angel :) you have defined your Personality and your weaknesses. The question to the intuitive mind from here on out is, "How do we make you feel welcome?!" All members are a gift, if management don't mind.

Hah, good luck defining me :)

Hah, good luck defining me :)

Hi Angel! How are you doing?

Anyway, thank you for your good wishes!

Love you!

tuck :)

Hi Angel! How are you doing?

Anyway, thank you for your good wishes!

Love you!

tuck :)

I'm doing good, been attending a few christmas parties lately ;)
A drink or two too many perhaps :)

You're not drinking too much unless you can't remember the night before.

I'm doing good, been attending a few christmas parties lately ;)
A drink or two too many perhaps :)

:)

I'm doing good, been attending a few christmas parties lately ;)
A drink or two too many perhaps :)

You're not drinking too much unless you can't remember the night before.

Angel :) this ain't right, but I do agree with Napster on that one.

And Napster can still play his "instrurment" whether he remembers it or not! :)

Ah yes, the good old days :)

Love you guys!

Old tuck

By the way, I really like the idea of a "designated driver"! "Drunk or drungged out" folks should not be allowed to operate "lethal weapons" on our streets! Our loved ones have enough trouble getting home safely as it is.

I love the new laws! tuck

tuck,those aren't new laws...they've been in place since I started driving at 15


but you are right,those who drink and drive need to be shot dead on the spot.

Angel :) this ain't right, but I do agree with Napster on that one.

And Napster can still play his "instrurment" whether he remembers it or not! :)

Ah yes, the good old days :)

Love you guys!

Old tuck

By the way, I really like the idea of a "designated driver"! "Drunk or drungged out" folks should not be allowed to operate "lethal weapons" on our streets! Our loved ones have enough trouble getting home safely as it is.

I love the new laws! tuck
Is this just how thoughts come out of your mind? Just how much acid did you do in the 60s, man?!

P.S. - I don't think any of us want to hear about Nappy's "instrument", except you, apparently. :@@:

those who drink and drive need to be shot dead on the spot.

Not so - sometimes you have to drink and drive, like when you've been drinking and have to get home in your car.

The alcohol limit is too low. People drive way more fucked up than they do than people who've had a few drinks.

Rolling drunk - sure - thats a problem. As a kid - I always was aware of when I was too drunk to drive - I knew because I would tend to drive fast & sloppy & not care. At that point a voice in my head would always say - "too drunk to drive" and I tried to drive slower & more carefully - no doubt swerving, but mindful.

The one time I got pulled over rat ass drunk - the cop asked me if I had been drinking - I said sure I have, he asked me to say the alphabet & for some reason no matter how drunk I am I can say the alphabet. He let me go on my way. My guess was I was 5x over the limit.

I rarely drink and drive these days - but thats because I hardly ever go out.

I somewhat want to agree with you Drew... I know people who can drive perfectly well after a few drinks (my mother, for example), but I also know people who can't even stand after the same amount, and I certainly wouldn't want them to be able to drive legally like that.

I used to think that way too Drew until one too many friends were lost in the last year to those types of accidents and the ones killed were not drunk.
But,I also understand and respect that everyone else has a different view on these things. This just happens to be mine.
If I'm driving with no one else to take over for me,I won't drink at all. It's just not worth it to me.
Maybe I'm getting old too :(

if they want to stop drinking & driving - they need to stop selling alcohol.

Field sobriety tests are the way they should determine it - it's obvious if somebody is too drunk to drive - blood alcohol is not reliable in that assessment.

You're not drinking too much unless you can't remember the night before.

A girl I used to party with until we moved to separate cities, used to pull a more denailistic version of that truth. Very selective memory :)
We sometimes went for a Sunday afternoon walk to try to piece together last nights events, great times :D

if they want to stop drinking & driving - they need to stop selling alcohol.

Field sobriety tests are the way they should determine it - it's obvious if somebody is too drunk to drive - blood alcohol is not reliable in that assessment.


hahaha,stop selling alcohol....never happen

I agree the BAC is not an exact way to determine someone's inability to drive. It's really more based on each person seperately. Some people can drink from morning till night and not show any impairments(my kid's grandfather for example) others it only takes one or two drinks and they are passed out on the floor.
I've never taken a field test so I don't know what all they entail,but I know a couple of my friends who are cops say they rely more on those in whether they think someones had too much to drink and are unable to drive.

hahaha,stop selling alcohol....never happen

Didn't they try that somewhere in the US? 1920s or so?

Didn't they try that somewhere in the US? 1920s or so?
Everywhere in the U.S., actually. It was called Prohibition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States). from 1920 to 1933. And no, it definitely didn't work. Crime rates went through the roof as organized crime syndicates took over the illegal alcohol business.

Everywhere in the U.S., actually. It was called Prohibition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States). from 1920 to 1933. And no, it definitely didn't work. Crime rates went through the roof as organized crime syndicates took over the illegal alcohol business.

Sounds like the general drug prohibition problem - crime thru the roof & organized syndicates. You would have thought they learned the lesson back in 1933 before they started the War on Drugs and started filling the jails with pot smokers.

Here's something actually related to the topic!

I look at religion as a seriously misguided set of priorities. In the mental pie graph of attention, they place so large of a piece with religion, it crowds out other concerns. While it doesn't seriously harm a person's survival ability in most cases, it almost invariably removes a person's ability to make subtler judgments. Things become good or bad, and the details of situations take a back seat to the perceived morality of them. Often times the details are purposefully ignored in order to protect a ideology.

if they want to stop drinking & driving - they need to stop selling alcohol.

Field sobriety tests are the way they should determine it - it's obvious if somebody is too drunk to drive - blood alcohol is not reliable in that assessment.
there has to be a clearly definable standard, otherwise you'd be seeing ppl being locked up for being a klutz.

i don't bitch about being legally drunk at .02 (because my DL says CDL on it), you shouldn't be at .08.

Here's something actually related to the topic!

I look at religion as a seriously misguided set of priorities. In the mental pie graph of attention, they place so large of a piece with religion, it crowds out other concerns. While it doesn't seriously harm a person's survival ability in most cases, it almost invariably removes a person's ability to make subtler judgments. Things become good or bad, and the details of situations take a back seat to the perceived morality of them. Often times the details are purposefully ignored in order to protect a ideology.
How long have you been researching the subjects of said, religion to add to the "mental pie graph"?

tuck,those aren't new laws...they've been in place since I started driving at 15


but you are right,those who drink and drive need to be shot dead on the spot.

Back in my day if you got caught drunk and were not actually obnoxious, law inforcement followed you home to make sure that you got home safely :)

:)

Love you!

Old tuck :)

Is this just how thoughts come out of your mind? Just how much acid did you do in the 60s, man?!

P.S. - I don't think any of us want to hear about Nappy's "instrument", except you, apparently. :@@:

Dark, I am happy that you have gone "rogue!" Dark, Napster is a "musician" and he plays a musical "intrument" in bars :) and other places where people are partying. He does this for a living. I have no idea how he would hang out with drunks and entertain them, if he didn't drink :)

Love you!

tuck

Sweetheart :) you are out of the "loop!"

How long have you been researching the subjects of said, religion to add to the "mental pie graph"?
How long did you research religion before you decided to give your entire life to it?

LOL... I'm a "rogue" apparently. :D

How long did you research religion before you decided to give your entire life to it?
how much longer are you going to think about how to live your life before you start doing it?

How long did you research religion before you decided to give your entire life to it?

Yah Inviolable! Enquiring mind would like to know :) ?!

Love you!

tuck :)

After all :) there is absolutely no excuse for me :) !

LOL... I'm a "rogue" apparently. :D

Dark Sweetheart, conflict sells newspapers, so one of us has to be :)

Better you than me, if it can be done :) ?!

Ok? In theory we are "minds at play" and you say and maintain that "I" don't "have a mind :) ".

Honestly Dark, you are the only one who has to prove that you have a mind. I am just here for fun :) wherther I actually have a mind or not.

Love you!

tuck :)

Your turn :)

How long did you research religion before you decided to give your entire life to it?
Jumped right into it.

Jumped right into it.

what do you do about Christians :)

They just jump into stuff and let God sort things out :)

And of course, everybody knows that there is "not" a God, unless you believe there is. That "Damn leap of "Faith" stuff!"

Rev tuck

how much longer are you going to think about how to live your life before you start doing it?
What? I'm taking a month long trip to Costa Rica in the middle of March. Call me when you can say with a straight face that you're living life fuller than mine, instead of worrying about how not to piss off your girlfriend. :rolleyes:

Jumped right into it.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

What? I'm taking a month long trip to Costa Rica in the middle of March. Call me when you can say with a straight face that you're living life fuller than mine, instead of worrying about how not to piss off your girlfriend. :rolleyes:
are you sure they're going to let you in this time?:slap:

are you sure they're going to let you in this time?:slap:
I got three and a half months to get to the embassy and find out. When's the last trip you've taken?

I got three and a half months to get to the embassy and find out. When's the last trip you've taken?

been there, done that. there's no place like home.

been there, done that. there's no place like home.
So that's never?

i was in Chicago for a week after Halloween if you want dates.

Chicago? :rolleyes:

some of us have jobs:p

That's right, bitch. You just don't have the balls. I got a job too, you know.

That's right, bitch.
it's part of being a grown-up...you'll understand it when you're older.:)

What part of, "I got a job too," did you not understand?

Yeah, that's what I thought.
And?

What part of, "I got a job too," did you not understand?
the part where you edited it after i quoted it:slap:

what do you do about Christians :)

They just jump into stuff and let God sort things out :)

And of course, everybody knows that there is "not" a God, unless you believe there is. That "Damn leap of "Faith" stuff!"

Rev tuck
I got God smacked.

And?
Don't be a hypocrite, Inviolable. That's all I'm asking.

the part where you edited it after i quoted it:slap:
Well, you can still travel the world with a job. You just have to have the right one. It's up to you to find the right one. Don't look down on me because I found the right one, and you found the wrong one. There's always time to change.

how much longer are you going to think about how to live your life before you start doing it?
Besides, I was retorting Inviolable's flawed logic rhetorically, not asking a serious question. Nobody converts to religion by thinking hard and deciding that's the best course of action, weighing all the evidence carefully. They just like to tell atheists to do it, using bullshit like Pascal's Wager.

Well, you can still travel the world with a job. You just have to have the right one. It's up to you to find the right one. Don't look down on me because I found the right one, and you found the wrong one. There's always time to change.
how many jobs is that in the last year? 3? 5?

That's right, bitch. You just don't have the balls. I got a job too, you know.

tucker58 says, "Anyway Cheyenne, he calls everybody a "bitch" (he is like my son in law), it had nothing to do with you being a woman :) ."

Tucker58 "hunckers down" :) "Napster is going to "bitch" slap me :) !"

He is forgiven :) He had a hard day at the office. And we "bitches" understand these things.

Love!

tuck

Besides, I was retorting Inviolable's flawed logic rhetorically, not asking a serious question. Nobody converts to religion by thinking hard and deciding that's the best course of action, weighing all the evidence carefully. They just like to tell atheists to do it, using bullshit like Pascal's Wager.

They have no good reason for it, that is always what it boils down to. If you ask these kinda questions they either stop replying or just cough up some nonsense. The fact of the matter is there is no good reason to join a religion, you just sell your soul to the one with the most fantastic claims or whatever your mommy picked for you. So much for independent thought :)

how many jobs is that in the last year? 3? 5?
2. The one I have now, and the courier job I never made money doing.

They have no good reason for it, that is always what it boils down to. If you ask these kinda questions they either stop replying or just cough up some nonsense. The fact of the matter is there is no good reason to join a religion, you just sell your soul to the one with the most fantastic claims or whatever your mommy picked for you. So much for independent thought :)

Angel you and Freethinker are going to make a good tag time :)

And in your above post Angel you are accusing others of doing what you actually do :)

I love it! :)

By the way guys, Napster does actually "Work!" Fair enough :) And most of us could not actually do his job.

Love!

tuck

And in your above post Angel you are accusing others of doing what you actually do :)

What part?

I assume it is the last part. There is no reason to believe any fantastic claims based on the claim itself. If you have a mind of your own you will look at the evidence first before you accept an explanation. This is where religion completely fails the rational mind as it requires the exact opposite of evidence, namely faith.

No, science does not require faith, claiming so is just silly. You are of course allowed to blindly believe science by faith, but science is perfectly capable of standing on its own feet and is ready to defend what it claims. Otherwise it wouldn't be science, so the "science requires faith" phrase is basically an oxy moron...

Don't be a hypocrite, Inviolable. That's all I'm asking.
lol OH!

I'm sorry.

What part?

I assume it is the last part. There is no reason to believe any fantastic claims based on the claim itself. If you have a mind of your own you will look at the evidence first before you accept an explanation. This is where religion completely fails the rational mind as it requires the exact opposite of evidence, namely faith.

No, science does not require faith, claiming so is just silly. You are of course allowed to blindly believe science by faith, but science is perfectly capable of standing on its own feet and is ready to defend what it claims. Otherwise it wouldn't be science, so the "science requires faith" phrase is basically an oxy moron...

Angel you are too much fun! :)

Angel you are an "oxymoron", is my point :) I have more that 1200 posts on this messageboard and I remember every one. And Angel I have not tangled a "Logic Line" yet. Study my history.

You say, "Good luck "TucK", understanding "my/Angel's" personality." Angel your personality is not that complex. The problem is understanding ourselves. And that other people have already got/have us figured out :)

The only option is to run defensive and wonder, how in the heck did they do that? :)

Angel if you were kicking "tush" on "ten other mesageboards, you would not be here on All forums.net. You would be too busy and having too much fun. And just for the record :) This "tomb" ain't eazy to "raid" :) We do have to help Napster abit, because he is kind of slow :)

Love you!

"Lara Croft" tuck :)

I have more that 1200 posts on this messageboard and I remember every one. And Angel I have not tangled a "Logic Line" yet. Study my history.
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Fine Dark :) so you are the young lady rogue :)

Screen personallities separate themselves out and make a statement. Cool!

:worship: :) no problema!

Totally Humbled tuck. :)

You say, "Good luck "TucK", understanding "my/Angel's" personality." Angel your personality is not that complex. The problem is understanding ourselves. And that other people have already got/have us figured out :)

The only option is to run defensive and wonder, how in the heck did they do that? :)

Did they do what?

Angel if you were kicking "tush" on "ten other mesageboards, you would not be here on All forums.net. You would be too busy and having too much fun. And just for the record :) This "tomb" ain't eazy to "raid" :) We do have to help Napster abit, because he is kind of slow :)

This and a private WoW forum is all I post on now, and I visit a couple more every once in a while.

"Lara Croft" tuck :)

She would kick your ass :)

Tuck..you've really gotten into attacking people.. very good!

Tuck..you've really gotten into attacking people.. very good!

Ah mesk :)

I hit this messageboard attacking people :) I even attacked you! It is just that you are a good person. And it was an opps! I am still counting my fingers and toes and feeling very lucky. Thank you Mesk for being gentle!

I do not attack good folks more that once or so (which by the way, that mistake once, can be fatal :) ! And thank you Mesk for cutting me slack!). Good people are the most dangerous humans alive, if they just don't call "Bull Shit" and leave :) My game on a messageboard is tricky. I love fighting "demons", being one myself, but sometimes good folk sucker you and you are up to your "tush" in "Opps!"trouble. Really quick :) ! It is a Tricky game if one is a demon and don't want to piss off God.

Anyway Mesk, you are loved! And it has been fun!

tuck

Ah mesk :)

I hit this messageboard attacking people :) I even attacked you! It is just that you are a good person. And it was an opps! I am still counting my fingers and toes and feeling very lucky. Thank you Mesk for being gentle!

I do not attack good folks more that once or so (which by the way, that mistake once, can be fatal :) ! And thank you Mesk for cutting me slack!). Good people are the most dangerous humans alive, if they just don't call "Bull Shit" and leave :) My game on a messageboard is tricky. I love fighting "demons", being one myself, but sometimes good folk sucker you and you are up to your "tush" in "Opps!"trouble. Really quick :) ! It is a Tricky game if one is a demon and don't want to piss off God.

Anyway Mesk, you are loved! And it has been fun!

tuck

Try posting in a logical way... forfeit the "smileys" and the other silly damn emotiocons. The only "dangerous game" you play is with yourself, no one here will actually give you any creedence, is when you post something of intellectual value. Until then, you are more of a "troll" than a member.

Wow. Feeling frisky today, huh OP?

no one here will actually give you any creedence
I don't know; he might experience a revival.

I don't know; he might experience a revival.


Um... Y'meanie like :

- Elmer Gantry- {1960}

I don't know; he might experience a revival.
Only if he drinks clear water.

I've been thinking, lately, I have been getting more and more sure in my lack of beliefs. The belief in a supernatural being seems so absolutely silly to me lately. It's just so glaringly obvious to me what role religion fills in society, and while it's a very interesting one, trust me folks, it's a complete and utter delusion. I'd bet my life on it. (Ha...)

The same argument could be made of how perfectly our world is set up that there HAS to be some kind of supernatural being who coordinated it all.

What's interesting about it, though, is that religion is a delusion each individual mind create. There are many factors that go into it, but the one overriding factor that makes a religion a religion is answering the question of what happens when we die. That's why religion exists, because most people are too egoistic to accept the fact that when they die, they will simply cease to be. And really, who can blame someone for creating a happy delusion where eternal life (or, in some religions, reincarnation) flows freely from the fountain of youth?

There is always that pill that naysayers can throw out there.. that religion only exists because it is convenient. I'd say that if religion were based ONLY on that ideal... it would have been booted out the door a long time ago. I think it is obvious that some sort of force exists. Miraculous things have happened in our world... things science can't explain, like healings.

I honestly chuckled a bit when you said "most people are too egoistic to accept the fact that when they die, they will simply cease to be."... that has NOTHING to do with egoism. The egotistic side, in my opinion, is someone who thinks that there is no possible way there is something that has some sort of control of their lives or is bigger than they are. Believing in a religion, christianity for example, is the ultimate humility. It's giving someone your coat when it's cold, it's putting others before yourself, it's trying to do the most good you can in this world because your heart is oozing with love for your God. Does that sound like an egoist to you?

I think that we, as a species, are probably genetically predisposed to be religious. It probably came up a couple tens of thousands of years ago and offered some sort of protective effect, though bear in mind that this is a mere hypothesis. I can say with every confidence, however, that God does not exist. If he does, may he strike down the plane I shall be taking tomorrow morning.


You should open your mind more Borg... there is absolutely no way you can say "with every confidence" that God does not exist.... The only thing I can get from someone who says that is that they are jacking off their own ego, and that THEY have it all "figured out". Well, sorry to tell ya, but NO ONE has it all figured out. It's hard to enjoy a shower when you have a giant bubble shield around you.. sometimes you have to seek for what you are looking for, and sometimes that takes time, something which americans hate.

Oh, and your test of whether God exists based off of if your plane is struck down is bunk.. "thou shalt not test the Lord thy God"

Well, at least I can give you the Christian reasoning... Of course, you do what you want with your life, but as we all know in here, our lives change drastically, and some things that are important at one time in our lives become insignificant.

Christian reasoning=oxymoron :@@: I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ." Ghandi

The same argument could be made of how perfectly our world is set up that there HAS to be some kind of supernatural being who coordinated it all.

Actually, if you study "the world" closely you would see that it is not prefect in any way, it is controlled by random chance guided by balance. Natural selection for instance in biological life is the process of genes balancing their influence in a population. There is nothing intelligent about it whatsoever. It's like dropping a marble over the edge of a bowl, it will rock back and forth until it comes to settle at the stable point, closest to the gravitational center. Tilt the bowl a bit and it will move and resettle. Does that imply that the marble is intelligent?

Saying that there HAS to be a supernatural being is a gross overstatement, the only honest thing you can say is that there could or could not be a supernatural being. Anything beyond that (agnosticism) is belief one way or the other. Now you can look at the possibilities of each viewpoint and pick one, but all scientific research indicate that no supernatural intervention is needed whatsoever to explain what we see aroumnd us today. Therefore claiming there is one is based on pure faith alone.

There is always that pill that naysayers can throw out there.. that religion only exists because it is convenient. I'd say that if religion were based ONLY on that ideal... it would have been booted out the door a long time ago. I think it is obvious that some sort of force exists. Miraculous things have happened in our world... things science can't explain, like healings.

Religion is in the process of being booted out, but people actually need answers, so until people actually learn the answers that science already have, religion is a convenient replacement.

I honestly chuckled a bit when you said "most people are too egoistic to accept the fact that when they die, they will simply cease to be."... that has NOTHING to do with egoism. The egotistic side, in my opinion, is someone who thinks that there is no possible way there is something that has some sort of control of their lives or is bigger than they are. Believing in a religion, christianity for example, is the ultimate humility. It's giving someone your coat when it's cold, it's putting others before yourself, it's trying to do the most good you can in this world because your heart is oozing with love for your God. Does that sound like an egoist to you?

Actually, it's putting your "eternal" life as a priority, and that is as selfish as wanting to be alive in the first place. Putting other human beings before oneself is not an exclusively christain concept in any way, it predates all religions and is a natural evolutionary aspect of human society structure. Religions are not humble, they claim absolute knowledge despite facts, it is about as far from humility as you can come.

You should open your mind more Borg... there is absolutely no way you can say "with every confidence" that God does not exist.... The only thing I can get from someone who says that is that they are jacking off their own ego, and that THEY have it all "figured out". Well, sorry to tell ya, but NO ONE has it all figured out. It's hard to enjoy a shower when you have a giant bubble shield around you.. sometimes you have to seek for what you are looking for, and sometimes that takes time, something which americans hate.

I would rather say he is trying to figure it out for himself instead of blindly adopting what he has been told by others.

Oh, and your test of whether God exists based off of if your plane is struck down is bunk.. "thou shalt not test the Lord thy God"

Very convenient piece of scripture don't you think? Bible is full of excuses to cover up the fact that things happen the exact same way whether one tries to invoke God or not.

Well, at least I can give you the Christian reasoning... Of course, you do what you want with your life, but as we all know in here, our lives change drastically, and some things that are important at one time in our lives become insignificant.

I can agree on that, when I grew out of religion, it became utterly insignificant to me personally :)

Actually, if you study "the world" closely you would see that it is not prefect in any way, it is controlled by random chance guided by balance. Natural selection for instance in biological life is the process of genes balancing their influence in a population. There is nothing intelligent about it whatsoever. It's like dropping a marble over the edge of a bowl, it will rock back and forth until it comes to settle at the stable point, closest to the gravitational center. Tilt the bowl a bit and it will move and resettle. Does that imply that the marble is intelligent?Who made the marble?

Who tilts the bowl?

Decka will shred your analogy like so much cheese -- he is the master analogizer.

I can't wait to find out how the world is like a football game or God is like a basketball coach. :eek:

No, no, sedan, you've got it all wrong! Decka's analogies are like washing dishes. You always put the glasses in the top rack and the silverware in the basket. If you ever find a zebra in there after you're done, you know you've done something wrong. The water comes from the bottom, just like God's love!

Who made the marble?

Who tilts the bowl?

That would be taking the analogy beyond what it was supposed to explain, and has absolutely nothing to do with my point...
I could have used anything that would resemble the bowl and the marble to get my point across, abusing an analogy is the approach someone with no good arguments would use :)

That would be taking the analogy beyond what it was supposed to explain, and has absolutely nothing to do with my point...
I could have used anything that would resemble the bowl and the marble to get my point across, abusing an analogy is the approach someone with no good arguments would use :)
I would have responded to the original post, but there seemed to be a lot of personal opinion that just wasnt worth replying to.
That seems to be your M.O.
Basic logic that adds up to nothing but personal opinion in the end.

I do have to admit, some of it makes for an interesting read.
You seem dramatically sunk in the basic nature of reality.
I was thinking about this the other day, kind of wondering about peoples perception of reality.
I think it's all personal opinion, especially in your case.
Sometimes personal opinion happens to be popular choice. I think the atheist here are loving you.
To bad we dont have anything to say exactly what reality is.

I would have responded to the original post, but there seemed to be a lot of personal opinion that just wasnt worth replying to.
That seems to be your M.O.
Basic logic that adds up to nothing but personal opinion in the end.

I do have to admit, some of it makes for an interesting read.
You seem dramatically sunk in the basic nature of reality.
I was thinking about this the other day, kind of wondering about peoples perception of reality.
I think it's all personal opinion, especially in your case.
Sometimes personal opinion happens to be popular choice. I think the atheist here are loving you.
To bad we dont have anything to say exactly what reality is.
Angelina is agnostic. She has no personal opinion about whether god exists or not.