That lazy motherfucker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1OCrRrgVw

That lazy motherfucker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1OCrRrgVw
I'm pretty-certain most people (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/1118930.stm) have seen that video. :rolleyes:

That was pretty funny... :p

That lazy motherfucker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1OCrRrgVw

Clinton's eight years in office pretty much kept the grand *steal-from-the-poor-and-middle-classes-and-hand-it-to-the-military/Industrial complex* scam going uninterupted. True, he did more for the overall economic well-being of this country than almost any president before him and almost certainly anyone after him --especially any hardline Rightwinger with a 2 digit I.Q.-- will ever do. But. He did little to nothing for poor people. He --in concert with his uber-Conservative friends in Congress-- undermined the social programs that aided single mothers and underpriviledged people. He accomplished little to nothing in the way of addressing global warming and the associated dire environmental threat that faces us. He did very little in the advancement of education. And what was his foreign policy agenda? He basically did what the Republicans told him to do. IOW, stride about the globe bombing and killing and flexing the nation's invincible military might, forcing the rest of the planet to knuckle under, ....which causes nothing except hatred towards this country and retaliatory attacks down the road.

Like every president who preceded him, he was a complete lapdog to far Right ConservaCorporate interests. Bill Clinton, for all his brilliance and intelligence, was a pathetic excuse for a president and a severe disappointment when it came to having truly done what was best for the American People.

he did more for the overall economic well-being of this country than almost any president before him and almost certainly anyone after him

May I ask what he did exactly?

May I ask what he did exactly?


Yes, you can ask.

But you cannot hear.

Yes, you can ask.

But you cannot hear.
I'm of the school of thought that the executive branch has very little to do with the economic well-being of the country. I'd like to hear your arguments against that, to be honest.

I'm of the school of thought that the executive branch has very little to do with the economic well-being of the country. I'd like to hear your arguments against that, to be honest.

What if the Executive branch-- through the use of their expanded powers-- were to foment a pre-emptive war (a war based purely on lies that later became a huge expensive tar-baby of a quagmire) and begin to wage it against a foreign nation (like, say, Iraq, for instance) that cost the taxpayers close to a trillion dollars, and they paid for it with borrowed money.

Would THAT possibly have any effect on the economy, either good or bad?

Couldn't the things that the Executive office DOES NOT DO, the mistakes that they DO NOT MAKE, allow an economy to prosper? Were the other branches of government entirely responsible --in your opinion-- for the longest economic expansion in history, the lowest unemployment rate in 30 years, the highest homeownership rate in history and the largest five-year drop in child poverty since the 1960s...............? Which branches?

What if the Executive branch-- through the use of their expanded powers-- were to foment a pre-emptive war (a war based purely on lies that later became a huge expensive tar-baby of a quagmire) and begin to wage it against a foreign nation (like, say, Iraq, for instance) that cost the taxpayers close to a trillion dollars, and they paid for it with borrowed money.

Would THAT possibly have any effect on the economy, either good or bad?

Couldn't the things that the Executive office DOES NOT DO, the mistakes that they DO NOT MAKE, allow an economy to prosper? Were the other branches of government entirely responsible --in your opinion-- for the longest economic expansion in history, the lowest unemployment rate in 30 years, the highest homeownership rate in history and the largest five-year drop in child poverty since the 1960s...............? Which branches?
When I was composing my response, I had a disclaimer typed up that they can't do much positive but can do a great deal of damage to an economy, because I do agree that Bush can be blamed for a lot of the economic damage the US is suffering. But I thought better of it, for some reason. And, given that, I think we're in agreement, though I should note that a lot of blame lies at the feet of Congress as well, which pretty much allowed Bush to do all that damage.

However, this assumes a fairly normal economy--I'm of the opinion (and I'm in the minority here among my libertarian compadres) that the New Deal, which was primarily orchestrated by FDR, did a fantastic amount of good during the Depression. So I suppose it is technically possible for the executive to have a positive impact as well, though yes, Clinton did the economy good by mostly butting out of it. In fact, the Lewinsky thing was kind of a blessing in disguise, as he couldn't really do much in terms of pushing for legislation while everyone was in an uproar about with whom he was having sex. All in all, Clinton was probably the best President overall since Nixon (pre-Watergate).

Yes, you can ask.

But you cannot hear.

I figured you would have no answer. And, it was of no suprise to anyone that in your attempted response to borg about what clinton did to make the economy boom you couldnt yourself and mentioned the big bad wolf and his illegal war again. What is with you man? Does every topic in the world relate to Bush and the war in iraq to you? I bet you could tie lead poisoned toys from china to Bush and the war in Iraq couldn't you? That would be fun. lets hear it. :corn:

Clinton's eight years in office pretty much kept the grand *steal-from-the-poor-and-middle-classes-and-hand-it-to-the-military/Industrial complex* scam going uninterupted. True, he did more for the overall economic well-being of this country than almost any president before him and almost certainly anyone after him --especially any hardline Rightwinger with a 2 digit I.Q.-- will ever do. But. He did little to nothing for poor people. He --in concert with his uber-Conservative friends in Congress-- undermined the social programs that aided single mothers and underpriviledged people. He accomplished little to nothing in the way of addressing global warming and the associated dire environmental threat that faces us. He did very little in the advancement of education. And what was his foreign policy agenda? He basically did what the Republicans told him to do. IOW, stride about the globe bombing and killing and flexing the nation's invincible military might, forcing the rest of the planet to knuckle under, ....which causes nothing except hatred towards this country and retaliatory attacks down the road.

Like every president who preceded him, he was a complete lapdog to far Right ConservaCorporate interests. Bill Clinton, for all his brilliance and intelligence, was a pathetic excuse for a president and a severe disappointment when it came to having truly done what was best for the American People.

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Is it randomly possible for YOU to post a paragraph w/o mentioning
some kind of Military/Industrial/Capitalist ... COMPLEX.?
Maybe YER the one with the Complex.
There...I just solved a nutter board conundrum.

lol, it is freethinker that has the military industrial complex!

I'm of the school of thought that the executive branch has very little to do with the economic well-being of the country. I'd like to hear your arguments against that, to be honest.

Weld,fer starters the President and his Executive Branch definately
decide on whether there will be a Monetary OR Fiscal Policy of
Economics.That makes a huge difference in the way a market
operates and manipulates certain economic conditions.

I figured you would have no answer.

I have an answer.

I have given answers on several topics to you in the past.

You will not listen. Your precious preconceived notions about your godlike rightwing leaders --your Archie Bunkerish view of the world-- might be irreparably harmed if you ever allowed yourself to recognize the truth about what is occurring in America under the leadership of the band of liars and thieves currently running things.

There is no point in wasting time explaining it to a willfully blind person who is going to steadfastly refuse to listen.

There is no point in wasting time explaining it to a willfully blind person who is going to steadfastly refuse to listen.

Typical answer of a person who has no answer.