I find this highly alarming but hey, dat's our Gubment! As if our solders don't have enuff to worry about already.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58419

I find this highy alarming but hey, dat's our Gubment!

HATEMONGER!!!!!

BAN HER!!!! BAN HER!!!!!!!!!!!

SHE IS MONOPOLIZING THE BOARDS AND STIFLING DEBATE!!!!!

STFU! GTFO! ESAD! GB,YSOB! LADCB!!!! GO AWAAAAAY!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(oh yeah........errr........<ahem>..........)

I will not participate in this thread!

<sniff sniff>

HATEMONGER!!!!!

BAN HER!!!! BAN HER!!!!!!!!!!!

SHE IS MONOPOLIZING THE BOARDS AND STIFLING DEBATE!!!!!

STFU! GTFO! ESAD! GB,YSOB! LADCB!!!! GO AWAAAAAY!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(oh yeah........errr........<ahem>..........)

I will not participate in this thread!



<sniff sniff>

LAFFING MY FUKKING ASS OFF!!!

LOL, good to see you've found some buddies, g/f. Just think, y'all might get married someday and have a whole yardful of little lefty tree-huggers!

I'm so happy for you both, I could cry.

~sniffle~

;)
SMW

LOL... SMW, children don't necessarily turn out like their parents. My mom is like a female version of FT, but without the anger and bitterness. More ditzy. :p And look how I turned out!

LOL... SMW, children don't necessarily turn out like their parents. My mom is like a female version of FT, but without the anger and bitterness. More ditzy. :p And look how I turned out!

You must take after your dad, DF.

Scummy, on the other hand, takes after her pet rat. Except he's cleaner than she is.

;)
SWM

LOL, good to see you've found some buddies, g/f. Just think, y'all might get married someday and have a whole yardful of little lefty tree-huggers!

I'm so happy for you both, I could cry.

~sniffle~

;)
SMW

Dry yer tears, Honeybuns. I mean, we haven't been formally introduced yet and here you are, gettin us engaged and havin kid. KIDS?? No freakin way! I'd rather have a nursery full or rats :-)

Hey, I been wantin to come over to yer place and say HI but I dint think you liked me much anymore. I felt so distanced and left out, I just wanted to cry.... but I got drunk instead :D

You must take after your dad, DF.

Scummy, on the other hand, takes after her pet rat. Except he's cleaner than she is.

;)
SWM

Oh, the hilarity continues with you, doesn't it? But basically correct altho my rat is FEMALE.

I think DF's dad is a biker. I read that late last night and was too tired to post. hmmm... or was I too high to post?

*scratches head*

:confused: :confused:

LOL... Yes he is a biker. He pretty much doesn't care at all about politics, but like many bikers in his age group he leans right. He's actually very interested in some of my libertarian-ish beliefs.

LOL... Yes he is a biker. He pretty much doesn't care at all about politics, but like many bikers in his age group he leans right. He's actually very interested in some of my libertarian-ish beliefs.


He sounds like an interesting fellow, and he has a very nice daughter for sure.

:) :) :) :) :)

He sounds like an interesting fellow, and he has a very nice daughter for sure.

:) :) :) :) :)
Thanks. :D I like you too, glad you started posting lately. Always nice to have someone with a good sense of humor around!:drinktoth

Dry yer tears, Honeybuns. I mean, we haven't been formally introduced yet and here you are, gettin us engaged and havin kid. KIDS?? No freakin way! I'd rather have a nursery full or rats :-)

Hey, I been wantin to come over to yer place and say HI but I dint think you liked me much anymore. I felt so distanced and left out, I just wanted to cry.... but I got drunk instead :D

You silly girl. I got over your skanky ways years ago. Was wondering why you haven't been by the homebase. Sean and Mikey had a long discussion about trucks last night... just like old times, eh?

Oh, here ya go...

Freethinker, this is my good friend the Scumbag. She's pretty kewl unless you get too close, then the smell will make you dizzy. Scumwad, this is the Freethinker. He likes long walks on the beach, quiet dinners, and overthrowing the government.

May you both live long and prosper.

:lolhit:
SMW

Thanks. :D I like you too, glad you started posting lately. Always nice to have someone with a good sense of humor around!:drinktoth


CraZed sense of Humor,Mores like it.
Hmm ... notice hows I managed to work the word " it " IN.?

CraZed sense of Humor,Mores like it.
Hmm ... notice hows I managed to work the word " it " IN.?
Sheesh, you are SO weird. :p

WOW. This had potential to be a great thread!!

Sure went to hell in a handbasket.:mad:

I find this highly alarming but hey, dat's our Gubment! As if our solders don't have enuff to worry about already.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58419
if you think the vaccines are rough, you should get a whiff of what they're being vaccinated for :(


15th reply, and the 1st on topic! i win!

Sure went to hell in a handbasket.

That is what happens when twits step in who imagine themselves "smart" mouthed but who are in reality dumb-assed.

That is what happens when twits step in who imagine themselves "smart" mouthed but who are in reality dumb-assed.

and you really are a JERK-WAD....aren't ya?

That is what happens when twits step in who imagine themselves "smart" mouthed but who are in reality dumb-assed.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/texrose752/board-auth.gif

Say, crybaby... Scummy is an old friend of mine and I'll jump into a thread she creates anytime I feel like it. If YOU don't like it, I suggest you stick it where the sun don't shine. Got it? Good.

;)
SMW

and you really are a JERK-WAD....aren't ya?

I was attacked by the mindless shrew first, I'd like to point out to you. I had not spoken a single word to her or about her before her hateful comments. She made an inflammatory remark, I said what I thought of her.

No problem.

she started it!
waaaah!

Originally Posted by Freethinker------
she started it!

waaaah!

I would thank you, you scumsucking POS, to quote me in context and to not quote me as having said something that I did not post.

Thanks.

Shit-looks like the weddings off.

I can see this thread isn't doing too well as far as sticking to the topic goes. I blame myself for threadjacking it so I'll try to get it back on track but first, I must say I like everyone here (ya, even the Right-wingnuts) and I think FT is a very smart noodle and I do value his input.

But please don't rip each others eyes out, ok? I mean, I do like a good fight but this thread is spozed to be about..... good gawd, I forgot.

Oh ya, about how our Gubment is demanding our troops to be vaccinated against Anthrax and that is just not right. It should be (IMO) absolutely 100% received by CHOICE. That's a word that gets swept under the carpet in way too many scenarios but I'll leave it at that.... for now ;-)

Here's an excerpt from the link I posted...

Concerned about the questionable safety of the vaccine, he became even more concerned after he discovered the military wasn’t even handling the vaccine under the rules for storing it at the correct temperature.

In an open letter he states, “The tactics they have used to coerce me into taking the shot are unregulated, unscrupulous and downright un-American.”

I don't know about anyone else here, but I think vaccines are many times quite harmful and many of them are riddled with MERCURY, especially the ever-popular flu vaccine.

I'd rather take a nap on the freeway than get injected with ANY vaccine, but hey, dat's just me.

Here's the original link once again...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/11/24/vaccines-threaten-up-to-44-000-u-s-soldiers.aspx

ANY COMMENTS?????

Wasnt there a similar problem during the Gulf War and Nam?

Wasnt there a similar problem during the Gulf War and Nam?

I remember during Desert Storm they gave our soldiers hypodermic needles filled with god-knows-what and told them to inject themselves when a SCUD missile landed by them and that caused all sorts of problems. Lots of them injected themselves needlessly cuz they thot a SCUD landed by them when it had not.

And even if it had, that toxic concoction wasn't such a good idea, from what I remember, and I don't remember much these days.

As far as Nam goes, I would hafta research that to see what injections were involved, if any.

WAR IS THE PITS!!!!

What was it called-Gulf War Syndrome'.

In Vietnam I think 'Agent Orange' that shit they sprayed to kill the tree's-fucken weedkiller-I think it effected the ground troops.

We have a few Nam vets around-Im sure they'll let us know.

What was it called-Gulf War Syndrome'.

In Vietnam I think 'Agent Orange' that shit they sprayed to kill the tree's-fucken weedkiller-I think it effected the ground troops.

We have a few Nam vets around-Im sure they'll let us know.

I think Gulf War Syndrome goes far beyond any vaccine they may have taken. It's a very deep and very real syndrome and the poor vets get very little, if any, compensation for their mental problems and that is happening in this fukked up war too.

Let's send our people to war and have them come back maimed or mentally impared (or both... if they come back at all) and if they don't have enuff $$$ to afford health care or a place to sleep, let them live on the streets! That's the American way!!!

Is it just me or is there a real problem with this picture?

Agent Orange. Gasp! Do you realize they use the same stuff in Chemotherapy? No wait, they use Nitrogen Mustard Gas, like that's any better.

What was it called-Gulf War Syndrome'.



Yes it is Paul. Here's a snip outta wikepedia...
Gulf War syndrome (GWS) or Gulf War illness (GWI) is the name given to an illness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illness) with symptoms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symptom) including immune system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system) disorders and birth defects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_defect), reported by combat veterans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans) of the 1991 Persian Gulf War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War). It has not always been clear whether these symptoms were related to Gulf War service or the occurrence of illnesses in Gulf War veterans is higher than comparable populations.
Symptoms attributed to this syndrome have been wide-ranging, including chronic fatigue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatigue_%28physical%29), loss of muscle control, headaches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headache), dizziness and loss of balance, memory problems, muscle and joint pain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_and_nociception), indigestion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigestion), skin problems, shortness of breath, and even insulin resistance. Brain cancer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_cancer) deaths, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyotrophic_lateral_sclerosis) (commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease) and fibromyalgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia) are now recognized by the Defense and Veterans Affairs departments as potentially connected to service during the Gulf War.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome#_note-0)
Since the end of the Gulf War, the United States Veteran Administration and the British Ministry of Defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_%28United_Kingdom%29) have conducted numerous studies on Gulf War Veterans. The latest studies find that while there is an increase in 4 out of the 12 medical conditions reportedly associated with Gulf War syndrome.



I've known 4 people that went to the gulf. Three of them were told they HAD to take the immunization, it was mandatory. The government had used our guys as guinea pigs and gave half the guys shots and half didn't get them.
Every single one that got the shot became ill.One of them, Tim, became very ill, his neck would swell and he almost died a few times, meanwhile at that time fighting the govt. that was trying to deny it. The other became gravely ill and the third had a child with birth defects. The one who didn't take the shot is perfectly healthy and has a healthy child since.
Thankfully, now, the govt. is helping them and taking responsibility.


Same with agent orange in Nam. Those chemicals were dropped merciful less on the troops with no care to their lives. You've seen the after effects.



That's why I think this is a good subject to discuss, because yet again, another war but the govt. still is using vaccinations and our guys as guinea pigs.
And don't even get me started with the shots they have given our kids and the levels of autism, add, adhd, etc and how it's increased since.:mad:

Maybe you should start a seperate thread on the subject Imp.

You seem well informed,you know guys personaly and this subject is a touchy one for you.

I'll be interested in reading what ya have to say about it.

I must say I like everyone here (ya, even the Right-wingnuts)....
EXCELLENT! Now I know you'll cook dinner promptly every night and stay outta the politics section for good. Remember now, baby - all that confusing, highly technical stuff is reserved for "man-talk"......say it out loud with me.......that's "M-A-N -- T-A-L-K". :)

I have a distinct feeling this is gonna be the start of a beautiful friendship, because, and I gotta be honest here - I like you too.

Oh, and welcome to Allforums, Scumbelina. :)

EXCELLENT! Now I know you'll cook dinner promptly every night and stay outta the politics section for good. Remember now, baby - all that confusing, highly technical stuff is reserved for "man-talk"......say it out loud with me.......that's "M-A-N -- T-A-L-K". :)

I have a distinct feeling this is gonna be the start of a beautiful friendship, because, and I gotta be honest here - I like you too.

Oh, and welcome to Allforums, Scumbelina. :)

Thankee for the welcome and heck yes I'll cook you dinner but I won't stay outta the politics section.

I WON'T - I WON'T - I WON'T!!!!

*stomps feet and flails wildly*

Now that we have that clear, I'll go make you a very nice din-din. I hope yer hungry cuz I'm gonna put my cooking expertise into it just fer you :)

Hang Tight!!!!

I hope you like my cooking, I truly do. This is a two-course meal. Ya, that's right. Two Courses!!!

That's how much you mean to me :)

ENJOY!

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/74/haggisun2.jpg


And don't forget to do the dishes.

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

More info about the Anthrax vaccine...

http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/

Benign breast lumps leading to hospitalization occurred a whopping 9 times as often after anthrax vaccinations as before. Breast and genitourinary cancer hospitalizations occurred more than 3.5 times as often. Abnormal PAP smears led to hospitalization more than 5 times as often after vaccination.

Hospitalizations for nerve damage in the arm--usually the vaccinated arm--or several damaged nerves (mononeuritis multiplex) occurred 1.6 times as often. Eyelid problems leading to hospitalization occurred more than twice as often. This is no joke. Draining, purulent eyelids appear to be a common consequence of anthrax vaccination, and the reason is obscure. Optic neuropathy leading to hospitalization occurred nearly 3 times as often after vaccination. This condition is usually autoimmune, and many cases later develop into multiple sclerosis.

Dermatophytosis is a fungal skin infection. It resulted in hospitalizations nearly 5 times as often after vaccination. Is this a consequence of impaired immunity to fungal infection?

Some illnesses made the list because they simply occur more often during deployments, like malaria, cholera and typhoid. Anthrax vaccinations are required for soldiers who deploy, but not required for other troops. Others illnesses may be miscoded. Many males have reported testicular inflammation after anthrax vaccine, which may lead to low testosterone levels, loss of interest in sex, and difficulties conceiving. (I have evaluated a number of males with this problem.) Perhaps some of these cases were miscoded as hydrocele, which is associated with fluid on the testis but is not due to acute inflammation.

Look at the second table: there are a list of cancers that caused hospitalizations more often after anthrax vaccine. Female uterine cancer hospitalizations were more than 4 times more common after vaccination. Gallbladder and bile duct cancer hospitalizations were nearly 3 times as common.

Blood clots seem to be related to vaccination. Both hospitalizations for portal vein thrombosis and "acute pulmonary heart disease" (pulmonary embolism) are more common. So are hospitalizations for varicose veins, and "injury of blood vessels of upper extremity" which may represent miscoded episodes of deep vein thrombosis.

Anthrax vaccine seems to cause very unusual illnesses and patterns of symptoms that cannot be found in medical textbooks. This might be why nonspecific diagnostic codes are used more often in hospitalizations after vaccination, such as: "other disorders of stomach and duodenum," "other disorders of the respiratory system," "ill-defined descriptions of heart disease," "symptoms involving nervous and musculoskeletal," "other nonspecific abnormal findings," and "complications of medical care, not elsewhere classified." These diagnoses need to be sorted out, so we can discover precisely what kinds of complex illnesses are due to the vaccine.

http://www.anthraxvaccine.org/wmd.shtml

Paragraph 4 tells how our Dept. of Offense, I mean Defense blatantly lies to hush up the adverse affects of this horrible stuff...

Many studies of Gulf War veterans suggest anthrax vaccine caused or contributed to chronic illness in those veterans. The only studies that claim the vaccine is safe were performed by the Defense Department. Most of those studies were supervised by the same individual, Colonel John Grabenstein, who was the director of the military's vaccine program. Colonel Grabenstein claimed that NO chronic illnesses resulted from anthrax vaccine. Yet on the anthrax vaccine package insert, FDA explains why those military studies had serious problems and cannot be relied upon.

And so it goes....

I hope you like my cooking, I truly do. This is a two-course meal. Ya, that's right. Two Courses!!!

That's how much you mean to me :)

ENJOY!

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/74/haggisun2.jpg


And don't forget to do the dishes.

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:


I deleted the shit sandwich cuz I guess it wasn't that funny.

Mind boggling, really.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Ok, back on the VACCINE track I go.........>>>>

Definitely worth reading, especially Dr. Mercola's comments....

http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/3/mercury_vaccines.htm

Definitely worth reading, especially Dr. Mercola's comments....

http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/3/mercury_vaccines.htm


Here are his comments in case that link won't work...


Dr. Mercola's Comment:

Hard to even imagine that any physician with half a brain would even consider giving a newborn baby a substance that is highly toxic to their central nervous system.

I have seen hundreds and hundreds of autistic children and have reached the conclusion that many, but certainly not all, had the root cause of their autism from the hepatitis B vaccine they were given on their first day of breathing air, which was loaded with a mercury preservative called thimerosol.

The central nervous system of a newborn infant is particularly susceptible to toxic influences. This is one of the reasons why the hepatitis B vaccine is such a problem. If it were given later in life, like many other countries do, it would not be as much of a problem.

Thimerosol is still used as a preservative in vaccines. You would think that the companies would wake up and pull it from the vaccines. They have not.

If, for whatever reason, you are not yet convinced of the value and safety in avoiding vaccines, you should NOT let your child receive vaccines from the multi dose vials. These vaccines still have the thimerosol in them.

Inform the physician or nurse that you want the single dose vaccine container and request that you want to actually witness them removing it from the vial and would like the empty vial to take home with you as proof that they did not receive the mercury contaminated vaccine.

This way you will at least avoid one of the problems with the vaccines.

I would rather take my chances with the vaccine than with the disease. But that's just me.

Maybe you should start a seperate thread on the subject Imp.

You seem well informed,you know guys personaly and this subject is a touchy one for you.

I'll be interested in reading what ya have to say about it.
Thanks Paul, this subject is a bit too touchy for me. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to hold it together if I started to post about it.


As far as childrens vaccinations, Scummy has posted an excellent link above.

It's absolutely your choice Jester, but be careful when you have your first kid. Do your homework and make sure the govt. don't slip in there and make your kid a guinea pig.

Here's another article which pisses me off to no end, although I'm not surprised. I do know one foster kid that has been used and pumped with drugs he should never have been on. :/
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071210/NEWS01/712100343/1002/NEWS

After spending more than four years in foster care, 14-year-old Jessie Sayyeau returned this summer to his Rochester home with prescriptions for five different psychotropic drugs. Yet physicians and lawmakers nationwide now fear that the increasing prescription of the drugs, without ironclad assurance of their safety, could be sentencing foster children to physical or mental ailments later in life. Two trends are especially worrisome:
Many psychotropic drugs prescribed to children and teens have not been tested for effectiveness or safety in youths.

The prescription of multiple psychotropic medications for individual children, such as Jessie Sayyeau, has become more common.


Many of those psychotropic medications have not been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to address a particular disorder among children. They are prescribed "off-label," (http://www.fda.gov/cder/pediatric/presentation/SFEthics/sld004.htm) which means they can be prescribed for different purposes and to different age groups than those approved by the FDA. Eight years ago, between 75 percent and 80 percent of the drugs prescribed for children had not been studied for pediatric use, said FDA's Murphy. In 2002, Congress passed laws providing financial incentives to companies that conducted pediatric testing on medications. Under the law, the companies were granted exclusivity, meaning the time was extended before competing generic brands could be approved and reach the market. Murphy said regulators are seeing results, but many drugs already commonly prescribed off-label probably won't be tested for pediatric use. A March study by the U.S. Government Accountability Office estimated that about two-thirds of drugs prescribed for children are used off-label, which, the report said, "places children at risk of being exposed to ineffective treatment or incorrect dosing."
Many critics say that, despite the congressional action, far more needs to be done.

"If the United States does not build a more adequate system for studying and monitoring drug safety, then it's reasonable to think, down the road, we're going to see (side effects) in children that are going to surprise us," Zito said.
:mad:

This damn thing won't let me post.

What da fukk? :@@:

Oh shit, I give UP

:rant: :hitout:

Happy Days :)

Now I can sat summit about ya,and ya cant reply.


PS: Did ya pay yer bill.

Happy Days :)

Now I can sat summit about ya,and ya cant reply.


PS: Did ya pay yer bill.

Oh, I can reply but I can't post the important stuff I wanted to post. It was kind of long but not that long. I think Merck is watching me, those fukkers.

Bill? What bill? You don't actually hafta pay to post here, do ya?

I must be delinquent then :-(

Yeah ya do-all donations to Drews website-Im sure he'll be grateful.

Now.

Lets see that important stuff.

Yeah ya do-all donations to Drews website-Im sure he'll be grateful.

Now.

Lets see that important stuff.

Ok, I just sent him $300.00 thru Paypal. I hope that'll keep me going for at least a few more weeks. Damn, this place is 'spensive!

I'll post the link and forget about posting the other stuff cuz it doesn't seem to like that, the wimp.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/12/6/merck-unblinds-aids-study.aspx

Here's anudder one...

http://www.mercola.com/2007/mar/10/growing-controversy-over-new-merck-vaccines.htm


This BETTER work or heads will roll, make no mistake.

*crosses bony fingers*

OK OK Keep yer hair on [that is YOUR hair].

Da link worked-Drew musta got the bucks.

Dosent these people need some sorta licence from the Health Dept

before they can test these things ?

OK OK Keep yer hair on [that is YOUR hair].

Da link worked-Drew musta got the bucks.

Dosent these people need some sorta licence from the Health Dept

before they can test these things ?

Of COURSE that is my hair, you goof. And those are my sugar tits too!

Moving right along....

Glad Drew got his big bucks but what do you mean by this exactly??

<<<Dosent these people need some sorta licence from the Health Dept before they can test these things?>>>

What people and test what things???

You leave me so perplexed.

:confused: :confused:

Vaccines are good??

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/26/how-vaccines-can-damage-your-brain.aspx