"Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott's resignation announcement on Monday was the latest in a wave of retirements to hit congressional Republicans, making an already difficult 2008 electoral landscape even more complicated for the minority party.

Party officials insist that the retirements -- 17 members of the House and six senators -- are simply the result of individual decisions and not indicative of a broader negative sentiment within the party.

But with so many lawmakers -- including a large number from competitive states and districts -- heading for the exits, it's hard not to point to the GOP's newfound minority status in Washington, the turnover in party leadership and the perilous political environment heading into 2008 to explain the exodus.

Regardless of the reasons for the retirements, Republicans find themselves in serious danger of falling deeper into the minority in [B]both the House and Senate in 2008 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/26/AR2007112602235.html?hpid=topnews)."

*

The obvious-response?

They advertise for MORE Oligarchs (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/us/politics/26recruit.html?ex=1353733200&en=65b1fef8e190bd1f&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Confronting an enormous fund-raising gap with Democrats, Republican Party officials are aggressively recruiting wealthy candidates who can spend large sums of their own money to finance their Congressional races, party officials say."

I will not participate in this thread.

Karma's a bitch Shaman.

Take some time off Shaman. Come back in three days if you want, but when you do, try to keep the wishes of your fellow posters in mind before you decide to post a bunch of new threads.

Thank you, Vile. Now maybe more people will once again participate in the Politics thread.

Whew...

Thank you, Vile. Now maybe more people will once again participate in the Politics thread.

Yer a People Poster...then ?


Bwa Haa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Good post Shaman.

Too bad the reich-wingers who dominate this board got their way and have managed to stifle actual discussion of real issues.

The board demanded more personal attacks and less discussion of the issues and the moderators (who claim they don't police behavior when it is a reich winger behaving badly) have decided to cave in to their demands.


:rolleyes:

Good post Shaman.

Too bad the reich-wingers who dominate this board got their way and have managed to stifle actual discussion of real issues.

The board demanded more personal attacks and less discussion of the issues and the moderators (who claim they don't police behavior when it is a reich winger behaving badly) have decided to cave in to their demands.


:rolleyes:
Ahh what a twisted web we weave.....when we choose what to, or not to, believe......

Ahh what a twisted web we weave.....when we choose what to, or not to, believe......

http://www.peaholmquist.com/bullshit/images/bullshit_pile.jpg
http://overcaffeinated.net/extras/bullshit800x600.jpg

Yes, thank you.

Thanks for banning the e-ville thread starter.

Now perhaps all the little -"Waaa, waaa, I'm not going to play with you!!!"-- whiners will stop crying long enough to resume their worship of the smirker-in-Chief.

Yes, thank you.

Thanks for banning the e-ville thread starter.

Now perhaps all the little -"Waaa, waaa, I'm not going to play with you!!!"-- whiners will stop crying long enough to resume their worship of the smirker-in-Chief.

Let the personal attacks and picture spam recommence!!!

Down with discussion of actual issues!

:thumbs:
db

Dharma and Freethinker, you know that I "think" like you guys on many issues. However, Shaman was not "debating" anything. He would just posts loads and loads of info (and that is ok), HOWEVER whenever someone even tried to discuss his points he would just come back with name calling and stereo-typing. Even if someone made a non-biased comment, he was ready to "attack" - not debate. (even to people like me who are on "his" side - whatever that meant).

Shaman was not "debating" anything......whenever someone even tried to discuss his points he would just come back with name calling............even if someone made a non-biased comment, he was ready to "attack" - not debate.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Completely unlike what Decka, Travh20, REDWHITEANDBLUE and others here do day after goddamned day.

:rolleyes:

Let the personal attacks and picture spam recommence!!!

Down with discussion of actual issues!

Excellent suggestion.

After all, that's what the rightwing whiners seem to prefer.

Good post Shaman.

Too bad the reich-wingers who dominate this board got their way and have managed to stifle actual discussion of real issues.

The board demanded more personal attacks and less discussion of the issues and the moderators (who claim they don't police behavior when it is a reich winger behaving badly) have decided to cave in to their demands.


:rolleyes:

What discussion? The number of threads where there was any semblance of an intelligent discussion that wizard participated in can be counted on your thumb.

"Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott's resignation announcement on Monday was the latest in a wave of retirements to hit congressional Republicans, making an already difficult 2008 electoral landscape even more complicated for the minority party.

Party officials insist that the retirements -- 17 members of the House and six senators -- are simply the result of individual decisions and not indicative of a broader negative sentiment within the party.

This is actually an interesting topic (even more-so without the annoying visual embellishments). Apparently, there's a bit more to to these departures from Congress than they're letting on...

Lott to quit Senate only one year into new term (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-lott27nov27,1,2632124.story?coll=la-news-politics-national&track=crosspromo)

The 35-year veteran's decision to leave by year's end will let him avoid a two-year wait if he wants a lobbying job.

Los Angeles Times: November 27, 2007

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Trent Lott, a 35-year Capitol Hill veteran who staged a political comeback after losing his Senate leadership post because of racially insensitive remarks, plans to resign from office before the year is out.

With his decision, the Senate's No. 2 Republican will avoid a new ethics rule that takes effect by the end of the year, allowing him to pursue a lucrative lobbying job after a year's wait rather than after two years.

"One of the things that troubles me now is the great difficulty in passing needed legislation," Lott said Monday in Pascagoula, Miss. The 66-year-old, who only last year won reelection, said he had made no decision on his post-congressional career. "I don't know what the future holds for us," he said. "A lot of options, hopefully, will be available."

But the timing of his departure fueled speculation that Lott was leaving to join the parade of former lawmakers who turn to lobbying to cash in on their experience and connections.

An ethics bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush this year doubles, to two years, the "cooling off" period that senators must wait after leaving Capitol Hill before they can lobby their former colleagues. House members balked at lengthening their turnaround time, leaving their waiting period at one year.

It's happening in both parties, of course, but the Republican party will suffer the most for it, because they will have to defend 23 seats in next year's Congressional elections and the Democrats will only have to defend 12. The current, very slim Democratic majority in each house will surely increase.

Maybe then we can get the hell out of Iraq! :thumbs:

Let the personal attacks and picture spam recommence!!!

Down with discussion of actual issues!

:thumbs:
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The source of Mad Cow disease has been discovered...

http://tinyurl.com/4ammf

Oh good grief, I didn't know that pic was so LARGE.

But... it's very thought provoking

Thank you and please continue.

What discussion? The number of threads where there was any semblance of an intelligent discussion that wizard participated in can be counted on your thumb.

Yeah.

Gee fucking whiz. I wonder why?? :rolleyes:

We both know exactly why.

Because whenever a thread is started that expresses the slightest bit of criticism (or, I should say, when a thread WAS started, as that sort of thing has apparently been outlawed in order to placate the crybabies hereabouts) for a saintly Conservative politician (as Shaman's threads often did) the whining rightwing faction here will forever --instead of discussing the issue like an adult might, or trying to form a coherant counterpoint to the information that was posted-- begin to moan and bitch about the topic even being even raised.

They simply cannot bear the slightest criticism of ANY sort and they WILL not hear anything spoken of that confronts or questions their worldview or the agenda of the ruling RightWing.

They are like spoiled little rich kids, accustomed to having their way 100% of the time. Pure and simple.

Completely unlike what Decka, Travh20, REDWHITEANDBLUE and others here do day after goddamned day.


Absolutely correct.

The only difference is that we do not whine about it as much as they do about Shaman and truthout, even going so far as to try and shut down the boards with picture spam and claiming they will reuse to participate in any discussion.

I lesson is that the loudest whiners around here get what they want.

Lesson learned.

Yeah.

Gee fucking whiz. I wonder why?? :rolleyes:

We both know exactly why.

Because whenever a thread is started that expresses the slightest bit of criticism (or, I should say, when a thread WAS started, as that sort of thing has apparently been outlawed in order to placate the crybabies hereabouts) for a saintly Conservative politician (as Shaman's threads often did) the whining rightwing faction here will forever --instead of discussing the issue like an adult might, or trying to form a coherant counterpoint to the information that was posted-- begin to moan and bitch about the topic even being even raised.

They simply cannot bear the slightest criticism of ANY sort and they WILL not hear anything spoken of that confronts or questions their worldview or the agenda of the ruling RightWing.

They are like spoiled little rich kids, accustomed to having their way 100% of the time. Pure and simple.

Again, you are absolutely correct.

Lets remember that the thread (started by a junior moderator) specifically cited the fact that Shaman's posts were "pointedly anti-Bush" as the reason he and others objected to them.


.

Yeah.

Gee fucking whiz. I wonder why?? :rolleyes:

We both know exactly why.

Because whenever a thread is started that expresses the slightest bit of criticism (or, I should say, when a thread WAS started, as that sort of thing has apparently been outlawed in order to placate the crybabies hereabouts) for a saintly Conservative politician (as Shaman's threads often did) the whining rightwing faction here will forever --instead of discussing the issue like an adult might, or trying to form a coherant counterpoint to the information that was posted-- begin to moan and bitch about the topic even being even raised.

They simply cannot bear the slightest criticism of ANY sort and they WILL not hear anything spoken of that confronts or questions their worldview or the agenda of the ruling RightWing.

They are like spoiled little rich kids, accustomed to having their way 100% of the time. Pure and simple.

Pfffffft. Do you really want me to go get threads he scurried away from when asked a hard question? He is no more interested in a discussion than crapout is of having another stick inserted for spinal support.

Dharma and Freethinker, you know that I "think" like you guys on many issues. However, Shaman was not "debating" anything. He would just posts loads and loads of info (and that is ok), HOWEVER whenever someone even tried to discuss his points he would just come back with name calling and stereo-typing. Even if someone made a non-biased comment, he was ready to "attack" - not debate. (even to people like me who are on "his" side - whatever that meant).

IMO, Shaman became quite (understanably) defensive after a while of having the reich-wing crybabies on here constantly going straight to personal attacks or changing the subject. When anyone complained to the mods about their behavior we are told they "don't police behavior".

But then what do the mods turn around and do when the reich-wingers whine and cry?

Suddenly they police behavior.

Jeez, Dharma. Way to make a huge deal out of something that's not a huge deal. If I were Shaman, I would have just left after seeing that so many people were against me.

(Just to add: I don't mind Shaman. I've never been bothered by him. I don't think he should have been banned.)

Pfffffft. Do you really want me to go get threads he scurried away from when asked a hard question?

By all means, I do.

Show me where he deserted the threads instead of trying to keep the discussion moving forward.

He is no more interested in a discussion than crapout is of having another stick inserted for spinal support.

How ironic. I guess it's completely lost on you.

In the same post where you accuse another poster of not being interested in discussion, you deride yet another poster by calling him a name, using the childish epithet *crapout* in place of his screen name, truthout.

I didn't make it a big deal Dark.

The reich-wing cry babies on here who decided to kill the board with picture spam instead of participating in discussions made it a big deal.

what do the mods turn around and do when the reich-wingers whine and cry?

Suddenly they police behavior.

Nah.

They just bent --as has happened in this society throughout its entire existence-- to the prejudices of the *God-Guns-TheFlag-ApplePie-Motherhood-Comprises-All-That-Is-Holy* faction and -defacto- censored those threads which tended to question the status-quo and which the hurt the tender feelings of the Rightwing zombies.

By all means, I do.

Show me where he deserted the threads instead of trying to keep the discussion moving forward.



How ironic. I guess it's completely lost on you.

In the same post where you accuse another poster of not being interested in discussion, you deride yet another poster by calling him a name, using the childish epithet *crapout* in place of his screen name, truthout.

Because you asked for it.

http://allforums.net/showthread.php?t=32974
http://allforums.net/showthread.php?t=33040
http://allforums.net/showthread.php?t=33063
http://allforums.net/showthread.php?t=32776
http://allforums.net/showthread.php?t=32777

IMO, Shaman became quite (understanably) defensive after a while of having the reich-wing crybabies on here constantly going straight to personal attacks or changing the subject.



Show me that one.:rolleyes:

Good post Shaman.

Too bad the reich-wingers who dominate this board got their way and have managed to stifle actual discussion of real issues.

The board demanded more personal attacks and less discussion of the issues and the moderators (who claim they don't police behavior when it is a reich winger behaving badly) have decided to cave in to their demands.


:rolleyes:


Very well said -they never seem to have a problem with personal attacks on here.

Very well said -they never seem to have a problem with personal attacks on here.
There's a very fine line between keeping discussion fun for everyone and unnecessary (and undesirable) censorship. If you think the mods could do their job better, perhaps you should make some suggestions to them. :)

There's a very fine line between keeping discussion fun for everyone and unnecessary (and undesirable) censorship. If you think the mods could do their job better, perhaps you should make some suggestions to them. :)

hey! I have 96 - the personal attacks rage on - no banning for that - but these 2 were banned - is that what YOU wanted???

We have a "Feedback/Help" forum for a reason, guys.

hey! I have 96 - the personal attacks rage on - no banning for that - but these 2 were banned - is that what YOU wanted???
Absolutely NOT. I do not approve of Shaman being banned. I have said over and over that I really see NO PROBLEM with anything Shaman has done or said. I have contributed ideas for solutions that allow Shaman to continue posting but reduce other posters' irritation at him. If I were Shaman, I would have started combining my threads so as not to start so many of them. It's about having respect for the rest of the community. However, he didn't break any forum rules as far as I know. We don't even have the rules posted. Therefore, I don't think he should have been banned.

Lets remember that the thread (started by a junior moderator) specifically cited the fact that Shaman's posts were "pointedly anti-Bush" as the reason he and others objected to them.


You have a selective memory.

BTW, if you don't like whining and personal attacks, maybe you shouldn't engage in that kind of behavior quite so often.

BTW, if you don't like whining and personal attacks, maybe you shouldn't engage in that kind of behavior quite so often.
I agree. I don't think the mods should have to be the forum police, picking up any little infraction, but I also don't think that we should be so liberal (no political meaning attached here) with the personal attacks. Dharma, you are just as guilty as anyone else you have pointed out. And before you say "They started it!", just remember that two wrongs do not make a right - in this case, they just make more hostility.

It's about having respect for the rest of the community.

That's exactly what it's about.

Good post Shaman.

Too bad the reich-wingers who dominate this board got their way and have managed to stifle actual discussion of real issues.

The board demanded more personal attacks and less discussion of the issues and the moderators (who claim they don't police behavior when it is a reich winger behaving badly) have decided to cave in to their demands.


:rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing. I have visited many boards and usually respect the moderators and appreciate the good job they do. On this forum, Not!!!

There's a very fine line between keeping discussion fun for everyone and unnecessary (and undesirable) censorship. If you think the mods could do their job better, perhaps you should make some suggestions to them. :)

OK

Message to Mods,

As Norman Lloyd said (not verbatim, but as I remember it) - It is cowardice for those in authority to cave in and put someone on the black list because it is the easy thing to do, but is not the right thing to do.

I suggest that you hire a real moderator.

OK

Message to Mods,

As Norman Lloyd said (not verbatim, but as I remember it) - It is cowardice for those in authority to cave in and put someone on the black list because it is the easy thing to do, but is not the right thing to do.

I suggest that you hire a real moderator.Having seen Vile post for years now, I can honestly say you cant find a better moderator. Sparky is just about as even keeled as they come. And Borg, while a little too caustic sometimes, is an over all fair and impartial moderator.


You should try another line of attack than this jenny

I suggest that you hire a real moderator.
One that went to moderator school?

I was thinking the same thing. I have visited many boards and usually respect the moderators and appreciate the good job they do. On this forum, Not!!!
Then fucking leave. Your opinion isn't worth shit to us. It's funny, you claim not to respect us yet we're the first people you come to if there's spam, or when Napster was posturing about Shaman and truthout. If you don't like us, it's this simple: leave. It's very simple and saves everyone a lot of hassle. I'm sick of fucking around. I'm sick of being called names and so forth even though I formerly spent probably a good half an hour a day fighting spam on here just so this forum is usable for you. Now that the spam problem is more or less solved (because of a policy I implemented), people on both sides are bitching about Shaman and truthout. You know what? I'm sick of it. It's self-righteous idiots like you who think you're entitled to mods you like who piss me off. So either deal with us, or leave. I don't give a damn either way.

I suggest that you hire a real moderator.


the ones we have are real moderators. They aren't babysitters,if anyone wants that they should be playing in a daycare center not on the internet

Yer darn tootin'

! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

the ones we have are real moderators. They aren't babysitters,if anyone wants that they should be playing in a daycare center not on the internet
I absolutely agree.

the ones we have are real moderators. They aren't babysitters,if anyone wants that they should be playing in a daycare center not on the internet

I have seen what it is like on boards that have good moderators where intelligent debate can take place without baiters and attackers. This board does not have good moderation and it shows.

then leave,no one is twisting your arm to keep you here :rolleyes:

I have seen what it is like on boards that have good moderators where intelligent debate can take place without baiters and attackers. This board does not have good moderation and it shows.
Then why are you here?! Fucking leave! It's really no skin off my nose! You are under no obligation to stay here and deal with a forum you so obviously hate. We aren't for you? Fine, see you later.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. What are you, a fucking masochist?

Then why are you here?! Fucking leave! It's really no skin off my nose! You are under no obligation to stay here and deal with a forum you so obviously hate. We aren't for you? Fine, see you later.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. What are you, a fucking masochist?
:eek:

Then why are you here?! Fucking leave! It's really no skin off my nose! You are under no obligation to stay here and deal with a forum you so obviously hate. We aren't for you? Fine, see you later.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. What are you, a fucking masochist?
Take a deep breath, Grasshopper!:cool:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

This is the politics threads and you are here to attack, not debate. Where is the intelligent discussion about politics? I see, you are not interested in participating in political discussion. Veryyyyyy Interesting!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

This is the politics threads and you are here to attack, not debate. Where is the intelligent discussion about politics? I see, you are not interested in participating in political discussion. Veryyyyyy Interesting!You gotta admit, this post isn't too interested in political discourse either, huh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

This is the politics threads and you are here to attack, not debate. Where is the intelligent discussion about politics? I see, you are not interested in participating in political discussion. Veryyyyyy Interesting!
My dear, you are hardly part of the solution. You come into this thread pissing and moaning about the moderators here. How is this political, exactly?

You're pretty goddamn close to being banned as a troll, which would solve your problem for you. It's beyond me as to why you continue to torture yourself here if you hate it so much.

My dear, you are hardly part of the solution. You come into this thread pissing and moaning about the moderators here. How is this political, exactly?

You're pretty goddamn close to being banned as a troll, which would solve your problem for you. It's beyond me as to why you continue to torture yourself here if you hate it so much.
someppl aren't happy unless they're complaing about something.:rolleyes:

the PC police are out it appears. Mr S had added alot to this board. Unfortunately I don't have 24/7 to be on this board.

Be thankful I save profanity for the real assholes in the White House. No need to be profane ... or to tell anyone to f--ing leave.

the PC police are out it appears. Mr S had added alot to this board. Unfortunately I don't have 24/7 to be on this board.

Be thankful I save profanity for the real assholes in the White House. No need to be profane ... or to tell anyone to f--ing leave.
No, there's no true need, but does any of us need to be posting here, either? George Carlin curses all the fucking time. And he, sir, is my hero. :thumbs:

If you were smart, truth, you wouldn't find 1/1 to be on this board.

someppl aren't happy unless they're complaing about something.:rolleyes:

What's that? You want a Snapple?

Damn, I'm confused.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

guess I'll go to the refrig and grab a bottle. This board is going down hill fast.

What's that? You want a Snapple?

Damn, I'm confused.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
i'm not really into Snapple, but coffee would be nice;)

[B]
What's that? You want a Snapple?

Cute. Are you being catty, here?:cool:

Gee. I thought it was getting lively. Lots of comments, people posting what they thought. What else is a forum about?
btw, you really should find another source to copy/paste. Truthout is becoming far too wishy-washy. Take the post that started this thread; it is just full of words like could, may and perhaps. As such it is a column that purports to be informative, but is, instead, just another inane ramble about what may happen in the future.

I was thinking the same thing. I have visited many boards and usually respect the moderators and appreciate the good job they do. On this forum, Not!!!

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

But apparently speaking that truth on here is cause for banning by childish moderators. :rolleyes:

Very well said -they never seem to have a problem with personal attacks on here.

Thanks.

There seems to be a small "inner circle" of posters who can say whatever the hell they want with no repercussions. Those few posters are the source of 90% of the personal attacks and escalating tensions on the board but since they seem to enjoy a "protected" status from the mods, nothing ever changes.

When it comes to that "inner circle" the mods say that they "don't police behavior" but everyone is open game for banning on a whim.

There's a very fine line between keeping discussion fun for everyone and unnecessary (and undesirable) censorship. If you think the mods could do their job better, perhaps you should make some suggestions to them. :)

I have beat my head against that particular brick wall already.

I was pointedly told that the mods "don't police behavior", but that apparently only applies to certain protected posters who just happen to be the worst offenders.

I was pointedly told that the mods "don't police behavior", but that apparently only applies to certain protected posters who just happen to be the worst offenders.
You mean the other 998 posters that didn't get banned?

BTW, if you don't like whining and personal attacks, maybe you shouldn't engage in that kind of behavior quite so often.

When in Rome...

I gave up trying to change anything here a while ago. The mods aren't interested in improving debate, only in keeping a small inner circle of posters happy. Now I just give as good as I get.

I am just telling it like it is. You don't like the way it is here, go talk to the mods.
I didn't make the board this way, I just do as the Romans do.

You mean the other 998 posters that didn't get banned?

Don't be an idiot Nappy. I know it is a challenge for you, but give it a shot anyway.

I don't give a crap about the 980 lurkers who never participate in the board.

And neither do we, about you.

And neither do we, about you.

ROFL!!!

Who is "we"? Do you think you speak for all "998"?

You are an idiot Nappy. Get a life.

ROFL!!!

Who is "we"? Do you think you speak for all "998"?

You are an idiot Nappy. Get a life.
I banged your wife again last night, dbum. Yum!

I banged your wife again last night, dbum. Yum!

ROFL!!!

You don't have the equipment kiddo.

I stand corrected, calling you an idiot is an insult to idiots everywhere.

You gotta tell her to quit switching lipsticks on me. My "equipment" is starting to look like a friggen rainbow!

Someday they might actually invent a microscope strong enough to see your equipment Nappy.

:lolhit:

One day they might invent a creativity machine that will allow you to actually be funny!

Nappy, you wouldn't know funny if a clown crapped on your head.

:thumbs:
db

I'm thinking about pie. Who likes pumpkin pie? I personally like it with Vanilla Cool Whip. Yum!

Yeah... you are a regular Dave Chapelle there Nappy. :rolleyes:

Chocolate cream pie is another great pie. I'm glad I don't get it very often, then I'd be fat like dbum!

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

But apparently speaking that truth on here is cause for banning by childish moderators.

I have to disagree there, dharma.

Vile is, and has always been, extremely fair and even handed, (and Drew too) but he was put in a bad position. The people doing all the moaning and complaining about threads (by truthout and Shaman) being started were the real source of the childishness, not the mods.

Napster --whose postings I usually like and whose outlook on life is about as cynical as mine at times-- in particular acted like a petulant seven year old. Albeit a seven year who imagines himself to be the internet equivalent of the Incredible Hulk when it comes to "settling" (as he pictures himself as doing ... :rolleyes:) disputes on bulletin boards.

I am still astounded at the way that some of the adults here threw a temper tantrum over something that was causing them little to no inconvenience, had they simply visited the threads they liked and not visited the ones that hurt their feelings because the actions of certain politicians were being questioned/criticised.

Correct me if I am wrong FT, but I don't think it was Vile who banned Jenny.

By the way, you hit the nappy nail on the head. Very funny comments! (Nappy should take notes)

One day, I'll drive out to Mississippi and explain it all to you in person, FT. Then we can pour perfectly good bottles of Jim Beam Black down our throats and lament about the piss poor state the ultra-conservatives putting our country in. But for right now, I've got to keep this little forum together. They might be ultra right-wing conspirators dedicated to keeping the B*shies in office, but I still like to call them friends.

It was Borg. Nice work, there.

Correct me if I am wrong FT, but I don't think it was Vile who banned Jenny.

Oooops.

I wasn't even aware she'd been banned........!

That's hard to believe...................Jenny?!?

What did she do to upset the zombie clique??!?........Imply that she disagreed that the Bush Administration is the most kindhearted, benevolent and godly group of people on the planet?

What did she do to upset the zombie clique??!?........Imply that she disagreed that the Bush Administration is the most kindhearted, benevolent and godly group of people on the planet?

Worse!

She stated her opinion that the mods on this board don't do a very effective job of making this a productive or enjoyable place for discussions.

I'm just glad the mods don't have tasers.

....for right now, I've got to keep this little forum together.

Yeah, when it comes to "keeping the forum together", your powers are truly awe inspiring.

Yeah, when it comes to "keeping the forum together", your powers are truly awe inspiring.

Pay attention Nappy... THAT is what funny looks like.

:thumbs:
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No, I'm pretty sure it looks like this:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/WIllow_Arcane/gestapo.jpg

Oooops.

I wasn't even aware she'd been banned........!

That's hard to believe...................Jenny?!?

What did she do to upset the zombie clique??!?........Imply that she disagreed that the Bush Administration is the most kindhearted, benevolent and godly group of people on the planet?
No, she, with all of 140 posts here, decided to question the efficacy our mods, you presumptuous dick. I didn't necessarily agree with Borg's decision to ban her, but none of the "conserva-zombies" you were so ready to indict did anything to prompt it.

No, she, with all of 140 posts here, decided to question the efficacy our mods, you presumptuous dick.Bitch at the refs too hard and you get tossed for the rest of the game. Life, folks.

stop crying long enough to resume their worship of the smirker-in-Chief.

Are you that dumb?

Since when does wanting obnoxious and spamming posters to leave automatically equal "worshipping" President Bush? You extremists paint everything black and white... it's a never-ending flow of BS.

Napster --whose postings I usually like and whose outlook on life is about as cynical as mine at times.....
Then stop implying he's a goddamned "right-winger". Oh, and FYI - neither is Vile, Phyrex, Paul, CarbonBasedLife, DF, LF (despite what he claims), or a myriad of other posters who complained about the SAME thing. The one responsible for making the biggest stink here, you just named as being someone you like.

Stop saying this is political, jackass.

Bitch at the refs too hard and you get tossed for the rest of the game. Life, folks.
Exactly.

Are you that dumb?

Since when does wanting obnoxious and spamming posters to leave automatically equal "worshipping" President Bush?
Well, FT - he's got you there, bro.

Since when does wanting obnoxious and spamming posters to leave automatically equal "worshipping" President Bush?

Since the people wanting these *obnoxious and spamming posters* to be banned only want those who make posts critical of the Rightwing to be kicked off.

When other posters do far more spamming than the two that you're referring to-- but posts that are not critical of the Right-- nothing is said.

Originally Posted by Freethinker
Napster --whose postings I usually like and whose outlook on life is about as cynical as mine at times.....

Then stop implying he's a goddamned "right-winger".

I did not mean to imply that I though he himself was a rightist. But he is on the --""Let's ban posters who start threads that hurt the tender widdle feelings of the Rightwingers here!!"-- bandwagon.

The one responsible for making the biggest stink here, you just named as being someone you like.

I simply said that **I usually like his posts**.

Stop saying this is political, jackass.

I think it is completely political, or else the whiners would have bitched about the other spammers who ---when they began MORE threads in one day than Shaman/truthout did--- made numerous posts that were not critical of the Right, there was not a single word of complaint.

Since the people wanting these *obnoxious and spamming posters* to be banned only want those who make posts critical of the Rightwing to be kicked off.

When other posters do far more spamming than the two that you're referring to-- but posts that are not critical of the Right-- nothing is said.

Let me think of the right way to reply to your falsehoods...

hmmmmmm

oh yes... now i have it!

http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny3/professor.jpg

Do the research... Liquidfork is clearly a conservative, and even though he disagrees with me, i consider him to be on an equal plain and have said so many times.

So it seems that you are wrong... and I have one message to say:

http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny3/flame2.jpg

I did not mean to imply that I though he himself was a rightist. But he is on the --""Let's ban posters who start threads that hurt the tender widdle feelings of the Rightwingers here!!"-- bandwagon.
Okay, then you tell me, Pal - what was his motivation? As far as I know, he certainly doesn't curry favor with the right-wingers here, so outside of the obvious, the golden question still remains: why would he do it in the first place????

Or is this simply another one of those "what happened to building 7" on 9/11 queries?
I think it is completely political, or else the whiners would have bitched about the other spammers who ---when they began MORE threads in one day than Shaman/truthout did--- made numerous posts that were not critical of the Right, there was not a single word of complaint.
Are you talking about the person or people who did so in RETALIATION!?! I think at that point in time we were ALL fed up with Shaman's incredible bullshit here (which he'd been warned about OVER A YEAR AGO, mind you), and although many of us probably shrugged Napster's retaliatory move off as childish, we UNDERSTOOD why he did it, because UNLIKE Shaman, it's not something he normally does on Allforums.

Are you really that fuckin' surprised!?

C'mon, man......for the love of Christ!!!

FT seems to think I'm a lot more political than I actually am. It matters not to me whether they were Bush-bashers, or Bush-lovers, on either side, but when something starts happening and people start to hate posting here, I'm gonna do something about it.

I personally hate politics. I don't give a monkey's fuck who is in office. Because all those pantywaists are exactly the same. I find it amusing how FT draws the line here.

...but when something starts happening and people start to hate posting here, I'm gonna do something about it.


As long as it doesn't involve thread-jacking or another form of obnoxious posting, fine. Your best course of action would be to talk to a mod about it. :)