"The strategy is "clear, hold and build, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/24/AR2007112401333.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2007112500076)" said Seth Jones, an Afghanistan expert at the Rand Corp. "You clear the Taliban out, then you hold it for a period of time. You keep forces there, including Afghan forces, then you begin to build, then expand and go into neighboring districts. The problem has been that when you move troops into neighboring districts, you don't have enough to hold what you just cleared."

Experts said the Taliban's control has extended beyond the group's traditional southern territory, with extremists making substantial inroads this year into the western provinces of Farah, Herat and others along the Iranian border even as they regularly challenge eastern-based U.S. forces.

"We're seeing definite expanded strongholds," said a U.S. official who declined to be identified by agency. "That's not going to stop in 2008. . . . If anything, it's gaining momentum."

President Bush seldom mentions Afghanistan. In White House remarks last month asking Congress for an additional $200 billion for both wars, he noted that "our troops, NATO allies and Afghan forces are making gains against the Taliban," then offered an extensive recounting of progress in Iraq." :rolleyes:

This ought to be interesting.

You've identified a problem. What's your solution?

america will be ousted out of afghanistan just like everybody else has been who tried to control it. it doesn't matter if it is the taliban, or some warlord, or whatever.

This ought to be interesting.

You've identified a problem. What's your solution?
The point is.....the CHICKENHAWKS blew our wad, in Iraq......and, are planning on dropping their whole Middle-East-debacle in the next President's lap....much like they did with Daddy Bush's economic-blunder (of an economy).

How entertaining (it's gonna be) to see Bill Clinton clean-up, after them, again!! :thumbs:

In other words you don't have a clue. In fact it's entirely probable that you don't even understand the problem which is why you can't propose a solution. Instead we get another throwaway line attempting to end the discussion.

Your attempts to create an echo chamber are feeble at best.

Shaman, you couldn't figure out how to piss straight if we gave you a plastic tube and a funnel.

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