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paulc
11-18-2007, 06:02 PM
18 November marks the anniversary of a very sad day in 'cult' culture.
The year 1978-the place-Guyana.
The bodies of 914 people,including 276 children,have been found inGuyana,
South America.
Most of the dead-members of the Peoples Temple Christian Church-had
consumed a soft drink laced with cyanide and sedatives.
However the body of the Peoples Temple charismatic leader,Jim Jones,
was said to have a bullet wound in the right temple,believed to be self
inflicted.
The deaths are being linked to the earlier killings of five people,including
US Congressman Leo Ryan,on a nearby airstrip.
Mr Ryan had been on a fact finding mission to the churchs jungle settlement,
-Jonestown-after allegations by relatives in US of human rights abuses.
Last year [1977] Jim Jones and most of the 1000 members of the Peoples Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after an investigation began
into the church for tax evation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/18/newsid-2540000/2540209.stm
tucker58
11-18-2007, 07:39 PM
18 November marks the anniversary of a very sad day in 'cult' culture.
The year 1978-the place-Guyana.
The bodies of 914 people,including 276 children,have been found inGuyana,
South America.
Most of the dead-members of the Peoples Temple Christian Church-had
consumed a soft drink laced with cyanide and sedatives.
However the body of the Peoples Temple charismatic leader,Jim Jones,
was said to have a bullet wound in the right temple,believed to be self
inflicted.
The deaths are being linked to the earlier killings of five people,including
US Congressman Leo Ryan,on a nearby airstrip.
Mr Ryan had been on a fact finding mission to the churchs jungle settlement,
-Jonestown-after allegations by relatives in US of human rights abuses.
Last year [1977] Jim Jones and most of the 1000 members of the Peoples Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after an investigation began
into the church for tax evation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/18/newsid-2540000/2540209.stm
Son you seemed to have left out why this topic is in the Religion Forum. Or the Philosophy Forum. :) Things need to be correlated here somewhere. Otherwise you are just shooting blanks.
tuck
afinertouch5
11-18-2007, 07:42 PM
Son you seemed to have left out why this topic is in the Religion Forum. Or the Philosophy Forum. :) Things need to be correlated here somewhere. Otherwise you are just shooting blanks.
tuck It was a religious cult!!!!!!!!:lolhit:
paulc
11-19-2007, 11:47 AM
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tucker58
11-19-2007, 03:24 PM
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Oh Shit! I have tangled with one of the Gods!
Paulc I thought that you were a newbe. Sorry about that! Please don't hunt me to extiction. As this messageboard's resident "fool", I have a short life expectancy anyway.
tuck
tucker58
11-19-2007, 03:47 PM
It was a religious cult!!!!!!!!:lolhit:
Hi Afinertouch, So my friend may I ask this, "What does religion have to do with it?" In any given group of people there are going to be "idiots" that are easily led by other "idiots". This is the "basic nature" of some of mankind and has nothing to do with religion.
Afinertouch, my friend, I think Mr. Pualc is an athest that is promoting his religion. I don't think that Mr. Pualc would allow a free thinker into his cult. I think that he is also searching for the "blind idiots". Which is why he is shooting blanks. All Forums.net is pretty thin when it comes to finding "blind idiots" in it. Is all.
tuck
paulc
11-19-2007, 04:24 PM
Tuck-relax.
Firstly-I did think this was were to post this thread,tho History section did
cross my mind.
Secondly-I am Irelands worst Catholic.
Thirdly-if your gonna talk about me-spell da name right.
Fourth-'Shoot blanks'-I wish, Id be a rich man today.
shortstuff
11-19-2007, 04:47 PM
Tuck-relax.
Firstly-I did think this was were to post this thread,tho History section did
cross my mind.
Secondly-I am Ireland's worst Catholic.
Thirdly-if your gonna talk about me-spell da name right.
Fourth-'Shoot blanks'-I wish, Id be a rich man today.
omg poor Paul... blanks hehe
Ireland's worst catholic...say a few hail Mary's and should be good to go.
It is sad how people can get so brain washed and gullible. It just goes to show the lengths some will go to....to fit in and believe.
It is very sad.
tucker58
11-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Tuck-relax.
Firstly-I did think this was were to post this thread,tho History section did
cross my mind.
Secondly-I am Irelands worst Catholic.
Thirdly-if your gonna talk about me-spell da name right.
Fourth-'Shoot blanks'-I wish, Id be a rich man today.
Hi Paulc, it is nice to meet you! Sorry about my spelling. I don't have any children, so thank you for maintaining the white race :) it is appreciated!
If I wasn't a Christian mystic, I would be a Catholic priest. I love the Catholic Church and I am not even Catholic.
In order to get post credits I just step into topics with no idea what is going on and make a fool of myself :) there has got to be one in every crowd.
Love you!
tuck
~Sal~
11-19-2007, 04:54 PM
I remember the occurrence of this particular story. I clearly remember the horror I felt as the story slowly unfolded.
What a church he had. What a leader he was. What a man he was. And then it all collapsed as he deemed himself next to God and moved his congregation into the jungle. And they innocently followed thinking they would begin a utopia.
When you hear stories of the survivors and how badly many wanted out and how they felt so trapped it is horrifying. Lost in the jungle with no one to turn to.
How it descended into utter chaos as he fed his manic sexual appetite with any woman he chose.
How things can go sour when people no longer question their spirituality, their leaders and their church.
paulc
11-19-2007, 05:19 PM
Yeah guys-I stay being a Catholic-why.
Live how you like,
quick act of contrition-hey presto.
Good Catholic again-were would ya get it.
Sal your right-if I remember rightly-a lot of believers were found-execution style-very sad.
tucker58
11-19-2007, 07:38 PM
I remember the occurrence of this particular story. I clearly remember the horror I felt as the story slowly unfolded.
What a church he had. What a leader he was. What a man he was. And then it all collapsed as he deemed himself next to God and moved his congregation into the jungle. And they innocently followed thinking they would begin a utopia.
When you hear stories of the survivors and how badly many wanted out and how they felt so trapped it is horrifying. Lost in the jungle with no one to turn to.
How it descended into utter chaos as he fed his manic sexual appetite with any woman he chose.
How things can go sour when people no longer question their spirituality, their leaders and their church.
Oh my God Sal you are promoting Free Thinkers! No good can ever come from this!
Jesus said something about, "Shepherd my sheep." And relative to histroy, alot of His sheep got screwed by their shepherds. Maybe He was talking to some individuals that He knew at the time He was present on Earth. After all He did say that, "I will be right back." But at the sametime He also said that, "Only God knows truly when I will be back." He did do the will of the Father you know.
And Jesus said that there were folks working miracles in His name and that He knew them not.The gift of Paulc is that he has created a topic that separates the goats from the sheep here, and how in the Hell do you tell the difference relative to shepherds?
I want to be a "sheep"! I absolutely do not want to be a shepherd. At the sametime I do not want me and my loved ones jumping off of clifts, so to speak, so that some asshole can feel good about themselves because they "Fucked" God.
I love this topic! Is it "Suicide or Murder?" Paulc has given us a gift. And this crap needs to be talked about. So how can we protect the sheep and inform the sheep that there are folk out there that want to kill you and screw you just to have a joke on God?! And in all fairness, maybe these folk just want to be rich and the sheep are easy.
Guys, I am a legally ordained minister of the Lord and also a called lay minister of the Lord. :) I said, "God! No no, not me, please not me!" The Lord said to me, "Remember Jonah?!"
Anyway Arrg! I love this topic! I think that the Holy Spirit was talking through Paulc when it comes at least this topic :) and probably the rest of his over 7000 posts on All Forums.net.
rev. tuck
Napsterbater
11-19-2007, 07:58 PM
They recorded the final hour of the mass suicide-murder, I listened to it once. It was some of the scariest shit I ever heard. Four people escaped. They poisoned the children first. Many refused to drink, so they were held down and the poison was squirted into their mouths. It was alleged that it was done to put the adults into a grief-wracked state so they wouldn't resist themselves.
They held rehearsals for months beforehand, dry-runs with unmodified Kool-Aid. No one knew whether the Kool-Aid was poisoned or not. The members were kept in a perpetually drugged state, with nurses monitoring the drug intake, and extra drugs given to misbehaviors.
sassyrunner
11-19-2007, 08:02 PM
omg poor Paul... blanks hehe
Ireland's worst catholic...say a few hail Mary's and should be good to go.
It is sad how people can get so brain washed and gullible. It just goes to show the lengths some will go to....to fit in and believe.
It is very sad.
Like some folks up in Utah - at least some of the women get wise and get out.
tucker58
11-20-2007, 09:50 PM
They recorded the final hour of the mass suicide-murder, I listened to it once. It was some of the scariest shit I ever heard. Four people escaped. They poisoned the children first. Many refused to drink, so they were held down and the poison was squirted into their mouths. It was alleged that it was done to put the adults into a grief-wracked state so they wouldn't resist themselves.
They held rehearsals for months beforehand, dry-runs with unmodified Kool-Aid. No one knew whether the Kool-Aid was poisoned or not. The members were kept in a perpetually drugged state, with nurses monitoring the drug intake, and extra drugs given to misbehaviors.
What I love about you Nappy is that you would not have been suckered.
What they did "was" murder. And it was "mind mechanics" that suckered the religious folk. It is like P. T. Barnum said, "There is a fool/sucker born every minute."
The Bible talks about Magogs and their gogs (Revelation 20:8). The murdered folks were "gogs". Which is actually short for "Gaga", check the dictionary for that word's meaning. And actually a Magog is someone who uses mind mechanics to create "gogs". This is why we all love the internet. :)
Access to the minds of the world. The first horse of Apocalypse is the "White Horse" (Revelation 6:2). Traditionally, good rides a white horse. The fellow riding that white horse has a bow. That bow that that fellow has, is the "Internet" :)
Any who Nappy :) Trust not! Trust no one! Not even God! :)
Love you!
Rev. tuck