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Leper
11-05-2007, 10:50 AM
I don't know about you, but I found this article pretty alarming.

The euro, worth 83 cents in the early George W. Bush years, is at $1.45.

The British pound is back up over $2, the highest level since the Carter era. The Canadian dollar, which used to be worth 65 cents, is worth more than the U.S. dollar for the first time in half a century.

Oil is over $90 a barrel. Gold, down to $260 an ounce not so long ago, has hit $800.

Have gold, silver, oil, the euro, the pound and the Canadian dollar all suddenly soared in value in just a few years?

Nope. The dollar has plummeted in value, more so in Bush's term than during any comparable period of U.S. history. Indeed, Bush is presiding over a worldwide abandonment of the American dollar.

Is it all Bush's fault? Nope.

The dollar is plunging because America has been living beyond her means, borrowing $2 billion a day from foreign nations to maintain her standard of living and to sustain the American Imperium.

The prime suspect in the death of the dollar is the massive trade deficits America has run up, some $5 trillion in total since the passage of NAFTA and the creation of the World Trade Organization in 1994.

In 2006, that U.S. trade deficit hit $764 billion. The current account deficit, which includes the trade deficit, plus the net outflow of interest, dividends, capital gains and foreign aid, hit $857 billion, 6.5 percent of GDP. As some of us have been writing for years, such deficits are unsustainable and must lead to a decline of the dollar.

A sinking dollar means a poorer nation, and a sinking currency has historically been the mark of a sinking country. And a superpower with a sinking currency is a contradiction in terms.

What does this mean for America and Americans?

As nations realize that the dollars they are being paid for their products cannot buy in the world markets what they once did, they will demand more dollars for those goods. This will mean rising prices for the imports on which America has become more dependent than we have been since before the Civil War.

U.S. tourists traveling to the countries whence their ancestors came will find that the money they saved up does not go as far as they thought.

U.S. soldiers stationed overseas will find the cost of rent, gasoline, food, clothing and dining out takes larger and larger bites out of their paychecks. The people those U.S. soldiers defend will be demanding more and more of their money.

U.S. diplomats stationed overseas, students and businessmen are already facing tougher times.

U.S. foreign aid does not go as far as it did. And there is an element of comedy in seeing the United States going to Beijing to borrow dollars, thus putting our children deeper in debt, to send still more foreign aid to African despots who routinely vote the Chinese line at the United Nations.

The Chinese, whose currency is tied to the dollar, and Japan will continue, as long as they can, to keep their currencies low against the dollar. For the Asians think long term, and their goals are strategic.

China — growing at 10 percent a year for two decades and now growing at close to 12 percent — is willing to take losses in the value of the dollars it holds to keep the U.S. technology, factories and jobs pouring in, as their exports capture America's markets from U.S. producers.

The Japanese will take some loss in the value of their dollar hoard to take down Chrysler, Ford and GM, and capture the U.S. auto market as they captured our TV, camera and computer chip markets.

Asians understand that what is important is not who consumes the apples, but who owns the orchard.

Other nations that have kept cash reserves in U.S. Treasury bonds and T-bills are watching the value of these assets sink. Not fools, they will begin, as many already have, to divest and diversify, taking in fewer dollars and more euros and yen. As more nations abandon the dollar, its decline will continue.

The oil-producing and exporting nations, with trade surpluses, like China, have also begun to take the stash of dollars they have and stuff them into sovereign wealth funds, and use these immense and growing funds to buy up real assets in the United States — investment banks and American companies.

Nor is there any end in sight to the sinking of the dollar. For, as foreigners demand more dollars for the oil and goods they sell us, the trade deficit will not fall. And as the U.S. government prints more and more dollars to cover the budget deficits that stretch out — with the coming retirement of the baby boomers — all the way to the horizon, the value of the dollar will fall. And as Ben Bernanke at the Fed tries to keep interest rates low, to keep the U.S. economy from sputtering out in the credit crunch, the value of the dollar will fall.

The chickens of free trade are coming home to roost.

To find out more about Patrick Buchanan, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com.


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Foolsworth
11-05-2007, 02:35 PM
Yes,Internationally one has much to worry about in exchange rates.
But here at Home,the dollar is still very strong and buys more than
ever before.Not a haircut or a cab ride,but most other things.
Like a TV,Radio or staple goods.
Electronics are far better in terms of choice and what they can
do.
One can forgo the Milk and get soy or rice milk,which is healthier.
Bread is also far better.Wal*mart offers a good selection plus
fresh bakes french or Italian crusty loaf for $1.oo
Shoes and clothes are very affordable.
Yes,if one is travelling outside the continental U.S. the exchange
rate will put a big dent in their pocket.
Buying a car couldn't be any easier.A local dealer was even advertising bigtime
a nickle down for certain models.
One can get German Beers and French goods,like never before.
Not like in the 60's when their cheese wasn't shipped and their
wines dint travel well also.
Life is a give and take process.
Ya can't have Beluga caviar for lunch every day.

Leper
11-05-2007, 02:38 PM
Yes,Internationally one has much to worry about in exchange rates.
But here at Home,the dollar is still very strong and buys maore than
ever before.Not a haircut or a cab ride,but most other things.
Like a TV,Radio or staple goods.
Electronics are far better in terms of choice and what they can
do.
One can forgo the Milk and get soy or rice milke,which is healthier.
Bread is also far better.Wal*mart offers a good selection plue
fresh bakes french or Italian crusty loaf for $1.oo
Shoes and clothes are very affordable.
yes,if one is travelling outside the continental U.S. the exchange
rate will put a big dent in their pocket.
But one can Buy French goods right here.
Not like in the 60's when their cheese wasn't shipped and their
wines dint travel well also.
Life is a give and take process.
Ya can't have Beluga caviar for lunch every day.

On the contrary, many, if not most, goods bought by the average American are imported from another country. Also, the lower the dollar's value becomes, the more profitable it becomes for local producers to sell their goods overseas.

waldo
11-05-2007, 02:41 PM
What is it you find alarming about the article?

Leper
11-05-2007, 02:45 PM
What is it you find alarming about the article?

That the American economy is losing strength. As the article points out, the lower the value of the dollar becomes, the more assets and wealth we lose to other countries.

waldo
11-05-2007, 02:52 PM
It's losing strength anyway, but not because of the dollar. It's because lending is going to tighten up and the consumer, doesn't have anything else to borrow against.

Teh US is not losing wealth. You only lose if assets are sold for less than what you paid for them. I don't see any sign of that. A weaker dollar helps the manufacturing sector, makes their products more competitive. A weaker dollar will, in the long run, be a benefit to the US.

Leper
11-05-2007, 04:01 PM
It's losing strength anyway, but not because of the dollar. It's because lending is going to tighten up and the consumer, doesn't have anything else to borrow against.

Teh US is not losing wealth. You only lose if assets are sold for less than what you paid for them. I don't see any sign of that. A weaker dollar helps the manufacturing sector, makes their products more competitive. A weaker dollar will, in the long run, be a benefit to the US.

Ah, so a weaker dollar is a good thing! Thanks for the correction, waldo. Now, if only we can reduce the value of the dollar down to the level of the peso, we'll be rich! Our manufacturing sector will take off, so we can start building a bunch of shoe factories that will sell all of their products to the silly Canadians...Viva la shoemakers!

The Praetorian
11-05-2007, 05:18 PM
Ah, so a weaker dollar is a good thing! Thanks for the correction, waldo. Now, if only we can reduce the value of the dollar down to the level of the peso, we'll be rich! Our manufacturing sector will take off, so we can start building a bunch of shoe factories that will sell all of their products to the silly Canadians...Viva la shoemakers!
LOL - it's certainly not a good thing, but OTOH, it's not as terrible as some people are making it out to be. In short, look at it like a pendulum; it'll swing the other direction eventually.

Leper
11-05-2007, 05:47 PM
LOL - it's certainly not a good thing, but OTOH, it's not as terrible as some people are making it out to be. In short, look at it like a pendulum; it'll swing the other direction eventually.


I'll agree that it's not as bad as the article makes it sound. As for the pendulum, the question is how far it's going to continue swinging in the wrong direction and how long it's going to take to swing back to where we want it.

Foolsworth
11-05-2007, 06:45 PM
I'll agree that it's not as bad as the article makes it sound. As for the pendulum, the question is how far it's going to continue swinging in the wrong direction and how long it's going to take to swing back to where we want it.

One only need to look at our GNP to decide affiimatively that
this Country will ALWAYS have THE upper hand in terms of
Financial independence and liquidity.
However CHINA is steadfastly manifesting itself to overtake
as THE world leader in production and finances.
Germany,Russia and France are really in a rut,economically and
in terms of maintaining a Lifestyle they feel comfortable in.
Yes,Our Country is in Debt,due to Debenture bonds and oversea
credit.But it isn't inconceivable for us to remedy that,even quicker
than The New Deal.
Ours is THE Premier land of Opportunity and exchange.

waldo
11-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Ah, so a weaker dollar is a good thing! Thanks for the correction, waldo. Now, if only we can reduce the value of the dollar down to the level of the peso, we'll be rich! Our manufacturing sector will take off, so we can start building a bunch of shoe factories that will sell all of their products to the silly Canadians...Viva la shoemakers!


As brooks used to say, if you have to exaggerate my point.....

A declining dollar is not a reason to get your shorts in a knot. It comes with several benefits, and none of them are shoe factories. You'll see a bump in inflation but that too will pass.
As to where we want it. I'm not sure that's the relevant question.

Foolsworth
11-09-2007, 07:40 AM
As brooks used to say, if you have to exaggerate my point.....

A declining dollar is not a reason to get your shorts in a knot. It comes with several benefits, and none of them are shoe factories. You'll see a bump in inflation but that too will pass.
As to where we want it. I'm not sure that's the relevant question.

There will always be variables in any Economy.
GNP is up as is Producyivity.Jobs are still being created and
jobless rate is very encouraging.
Take away High Oil prices and a Recession in the Home market
and things would be purdy hunky-dory.
In the Carter years we were told to wear a sweater in winter to better
help in those Long gas-rationing lines at the pump.
Plus if one wanted to buy a Home,it took a double-digit Mortgage.

shortstuff
11-09-2007, 10:12 AM
I love the Canadian dollar finally shows its worth..
Makes it hard to do business on ebay and many of the Americans don't want to have to sell to Canadians as they are loosing money know..Well how do they think we felt all the years the American money was so much more then ours...Booking many holidays now and loving it..
Guess Bush and his war have really had an impact on the USA...sorry.
But I didn't elect him.

I guess money wise it is Canada's turn to rape the US.

dharmabum
11-09-2007, 10:30 AM
At least our weak dollar will likely mean an increase in tourism as foreigners come here to take advantage of their increased buying power.

mikezila
11-09-2007, 10:43 AM
we have enough Canadians clogging our shopping malls as it is with our lower taxes.:rolleyes:

Foolsworth
11-09-2007, 11:45 AM
At least our weak dollar will likely mean an increase in tourism as foreigners come here to take advantage of their increased buying power.

No.We may not want YOU and yer palsy come'n here from
Canada and drinking our better Booze and Beer.
Takin advantage of Oue better Broads and Boobs.
Stay in Canada and deal with the upcoming Cold.
Oh and yeah... But a new sweater.

es347fan
11-09-2007, 02:36 PM
Bring on the tourists!

The Praetorian
11-09-2007, 02:36 PM
I guess money wise it is Canada's turn to rape the US.
How so? You already buy our cars, computers, medication, and a sundry of other technologies. You'll just be able to get 'em cheaper (well, for a while, that is), which in turn, makes it even MORE difficult for your industry to compete in our market (which just so happens to be your most LUCRATIVE market, but I digress).

A devalued US dollar is, believe it or not, really BAD news for Canada. IOW, we're gonna "rape" you like never before based on that alone.

On that note, you're gonna start seeing layoffs here any day. Some estimates state that more than 50% of the petroleum and gas industry and more than 50% of all manufacturing in Canada is foreign-owned and foreign-controlled. In no foreign country does Canadian investment play a dominant role. Canada's largest foreign investment, which is in the US, gives Canadians control over only a minute portion of the US economy, which is in contrast to the very large fraction of the Canadian economy that is controlled by American interests. Here is a list of SOME of the American companies on your soil:

General Motors Canada, Canada's largest automotive manufacturer, owned by Detroit-based, General Motors

Wal-Mart Canada, wholly owned by Wal-Mart of the US

Ford Motor Company of Canada, owned by the American Ford company

Imperial Oil, controlled by ExxonMobil, which owns 69.8% of its stock.

Ultramar fuels, owned by US-based Valero

Costco, whose Canadian operations are the 7th largest private company in Canada as of 2006, is based in Seattle

Hudsons Bay Company, Canada's largest retailer, and North America's oldest corporation (est. 1670), sold to U.S. investor Jerry Zucker in 2006.

Sears Canada, one the largest retailers (created by buying old Simpson's stores), controlled by the US Sears Holdings Corporation

IBM Canada, owned by IBM

Safeway Canada supermarkets, owned by Safeway Inc.

Cargill Ltd. owned by Cargill of Minnesota

McDonald's Canada, owned by McDonald's

Pratt & Whitney Canada owned by US United Technologies Corporation

MacMillan Bloedel, B.C. forestry giant acquired by Weyerhaeuser for US $2.45 billion in 1999

JDS Fitel announces $8.9-billion merger with U-S.-based Uniphase to form JDS Uniphase, in 1999. Company headquarters move from Ottawa to San Jose.

Eaton's, at one time Canada's largest retailer, with a history going back to 1869, purchased by Sears in 1999

Corel, a software and programming company, taken over by Vector Capital in August 2003.

Molson Brewries, one of the oldest companies in Canada merged with Coors, in 2005.

Terasen Inc., previously BC Gas (a public utility company), sold to American-owned energy giant Kinder Morgan for $6.9 billion. The deal is approved by the B.C. Utilities Commission despite 8,000 letters of protest, 2005.

Canadian Pacific hotels the owner of many of Canada's most historic hotel properties (operating under the name Fairmont Hotels and Resorts since 1999) is sold to Colony Capital, LLC of California for $3.9 billion in January of 2006.

ATI Technologies, Canada's graphics chip maker, to be acquired by Advanced Micro Devices, July 2006.

Stelco, Canada's last major independent steel producer, taken over by United States Steel in August 2007.

So outta curiosity, just how do you plan on "raping" us again considering the fact that we OWN your ass???

No, moron - Canada's not going to "rape" anyone here; our weak dollar is gonna fuck your market up like never before, meanwhile every Canadian and his brother is gonna line up to buy our "cheap" products...to wit, the Canadian companies that actually COMPETE with us are in REAL trouble.

IOW, tell mommy and daddy to start looking for jobs.