Enjoy!

http://www.bethinking.org/audio.php

Enjoy!

http://www.bethinking.org/audio.php
I am, but I'm still waiting for the sword of Damocles to drop when I'm on the site...though many of those contributing to the site are people I read and trust.
Blob, what do you make of the site?

Blob, what do you make of the site?I think it is a high-quality Christian website. The speakers generally provide a thoroughly fair and well-read account of that which they argue against (postmodernism; agnosticism etc). I posted the link simply because I thought people here might be interested, particularly the Christians.

For your possible interest, here are a couple of brief summaries of two audios I posted on an atheist forum a while back:
Just listened to this one:

Is God a Projection? - Wim Rietkerk (http://www.bethinking.org/resource.php?ID=330&TopicID=&CategoryID=)The second talk in Wim Rietkerk's three-part series entitled "The Challenge of Atheism" considers whether God is merely a psychological projection of human desires and aspirations, as Feuerbach and Freud, for example, claimed. This view can be summed up in the phrase: "The poor man has a rich God."

Wim considers the psychological, philosophical and Biblical arguments against this claim.

What struck me at first was a prolongued and fair representation of the argument that god is a projection, composed mainly of quotes of those who have argued that position. It was very well done because after 10 or 15 mins you are left thinking "Dude! You just destroyed your own religion. How are you going to spin this around?" In other words he had me keen to listen on and consider his defence. Clever.

Of course when his defence came it was a blend of tu quoques ("Atheists project too!"), circular reasoning ("The method for knowing if the Bible is true was set out by Paul") and shoddy logical errors ("Christian epistemology is empirical ... ... I know god because he knows me").This one was quite interesting:

Postmodernism and the question of
Identity (http://www.bethinking.org/resource.php?ID=89&TopicID=14&CategoryID=11), Dr Ted Turnau.

He seems to be a literalist Christian who talks like a postmodernist. He uses terms like "meaning" and "construct" and "identity" and "media" and "consumerism" to explain and talk about postmodernism. The first 20 mins or so can be listened to as a fairly reasonable overview of the post-modern condition and its relation to consumerism.

Unlike moderns, post-moderns respect no authority be it god or science. Arguments based on evidence and proofs from whoever will alienate them. The post-modern condition is also one of loneliness and uncertainty, but they can be reached through dialogue about meanings from popular culture.

A lesson for own our approach as advocates of enlightenment values trapped in a post-modern world in all that, perhaps?

Here's my argument against postmodernism:

It's fucking boring. Get a life. Get laid. Damn. Fucking losers.

Here's my argument against postmodernism:

It's fucking boring. Get a life. Get laid. Damn. Fucking losers.heheh

Here's mine: When the revolution comes they'll be the first to be shot.