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cranston36
10-27-2007, 07:50 AM
Mahdi Mohammed Ahmed was born August 12, 1844 and died on June 22, 1885.
He was a religious leader in north Africa who wanted to create a global Islamic state.
He fought the British in north Africa and defeated General Charles ‘Chinese’ Gordon at Khartoum . He beheaded the general and hung his head in a tree for children throw stones at.
His title was that of Mahdi – to Muslims the Mahdi is the prophesied redeemer of Islam. He is a prophet himself. His coming is to unite the Muslims in one world Islamic state to prepare for the second coming of the prophet Isa.
The prophet Isa is Jesus.

The British were in north Africa as they were intending to increase their presence in Egypt . Their main opponents in power and prestige were the Arabs, who, at the time, were primarily slave traders. In fact in Sudan over eighty percent of the black population was enslaved by a comparatively small number of Arabs. The situation was a good example of what one day would have happened to the southern United States had not the Civil War intervened and slavery abolished in North America .
In the late 1800’s, however, slavery was still a major part of the economy and the British hoped to break the monopoly the Arabs had on the economy by destroying the slavery system. They did so with good intent but ended up breaking down the entire society of north Africa without preparing anything to replace it.
Into this vacuum stepped the Mahdi Mohammed Ahmed.
He raised an army of considerable size and was financed by Arabs who hoped to reestablish the slave trade as well as many Muslims who wished to see the creation of an Islamic nation that stretched from Morocco to the southern seas of the Pacific.
At first the Mahdi was successful and defeated the British presence in Sudan . Even Khartoum , as mentioned above, was taken from British control.
Shortly after the successful termination of the campaign against Khartoum and the death of General ‘Chinese’ Gordon the Mahdi died of a tropical disease.
His body was laid in a tomb in a place called Omdorman in Sudan .
On 2 September 1898, the battle of Omdurman occurred and the British and Egyptians slaughterd about 11,000 Mahdi fighters. The British then dominated the Sudan until 1956. The Sudan ’s flag sports a black stripe at the bottom which symbolizes the Mahdi.
On or about September 11, 1898 the Mahdi’s tomb was broken open and torn down. The bones of the Mahdi were thrown into the Nile . His skull was kept as a keepsake by General Kitchener.

As we all know September 11 marks another day in history – that of the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York .

The Mahdi’s relation to Osama Bin Laden is not spoken of. The idea of the second coming of Christ, which is hoped for by many Christians and actively worked towards by many fundamental Christians is shocking when put in the context of terrorism.
Just what was the Mahdi up to?
Just what was Osama Bin Laden up to?
Preparing for the second coming of Christ? It seems so.
Now besides his own history where do you think a man like Bin Laden would pick up the notion that attacking the World Trade Center might be a good move to start the ball rolling and get God to put Jesus back on earth for a second go around?
Consider that the Bin Laden family and many Arabs have constant and ongoing contact with fundamental Christian sects who control, operate and work for major oil companies.
The Bush family is a prime example but not the only one. Do you know someone who is convinced that these are the ‘end of days’? If so you know someone who is unwittingly feeding the war on terror and helping dishonest politicians and business owners steal what they want without working for it.
With an imperfect understanding of Christianity and even of his own religion it is possible that he believed he was pulling the strings in his own magic show that would one day, ‘Presto-Change-O’, produce Jesus Christ.
Do you think that many of the half educated and ignorant members of our society would argue against something like that – especially if the price to be paid were only an attack on New York , which many of them hate for some unnamed reason anyway?
The invasion of Iraq spurred the coming out of the Mahdi’s Army in that country. It is in fact, the strongest opponent of American and British occupation at this time in Iraq . They are dedicated to the notion of a global Islamic state.
Add to the mix the greed and murderous attitude of the Turks in their quest to secure Iraqi oil by slaughtering Kurds you have an explosive atmosphere.
Keep in mind that the Kurds worship the ‘Peacock Angel’ – known to you and I as the devil. Whoever the Mahdi is supposed to be these days a limited engagement between the forces of ‘good’ (those wanting to spur the return of Christ) and ‘evil’ (folks worshipping the devil) is political good news for religious fanatics and the people who spur them on and then steal their wealth out from under them.
Now consider also that the President, whose beliefs already echo and mirror those of men and women who think like Osama Bin Laden – that is – being predisposed to looking forward to the return of Christ.
Other examples of this particular type of interference can be seen on the world stage. None are so blatant as those of our own president however who recently urged the people of Cuba (as well as their military) to rebel against their government. It was an ugly scene to watch as the president, in his usual stammering manner, encouraged the people of Cuba to riot and run wild in their streets.
It is common law and common sense that someone who spurs on another to murder and mayhem are themselves guilty of murder and mayhem.

Finally – to complete the scene you have been watching – the British Empire announced through their military and newspapers in the 1880’s that they need to ‘smash the Mahdi’ before he could form his global Islamic Republic.
This is from April 4, 1885 in the New York Times :
“"Smashing the Mahdi," on the scale upon which that operation is now prosecuted in the Soudan, cannot exhilarate the British Jingo.”
From August 6, 2006, Time Magazine :
“For Sunnis, the failure to smash the Mahdi Army is not so much an indictment of al-Maliki as proof of a U.S. double standard.”

Now you know why it was September 11 and not some other date.



:bombout:

LiquidFork
11-29-2007, 09:13 PM
WOW... ummmmm thanks cranston. That was if anything very eye opening. Wow.

Foolsworth
11-29-2007, 09:35 PM
WOW... ummmmm thanks cranston. That was if anything very eye opening. Wow.

Oh !,So's NOW yer juts gonna bees a widdle rascally rabbit
out to play the Victimless Hero.
It ain't gonna work,thar Bubs.
The stripes are already ON yer Posts.
The best you could hope for is maybe an Executive clemency and
then a Long time in secluded retreat.
You have rotten apples painted all over yer " Id ".@

LiquidFork
11-30-2007, 03:29 PM
What in the hell are you even talking about. The only thing I can gather from your mumbles is that your trying to somehow say i am trying to turn over a new leaf and lay low because of the current issues going on in the political section,and that it is too late because i am "branded". \

Foolsworth i have tried to ignore your attempts to antagonize me,because I do have alot of respect for you,as I do Dharma,and even Free thinker.

I know I ruffled your feathers one day because i poked fun at the beginning of a serious thread you attempted to start. I do apologize for that,and assure you it was not done by disrespect or malice.It was an error in my judgment and a mistake I do regret. I dont know what else you want out of me besides blood.

Before you,or anyone else for that matter wants to toss those same "rotten apples" on any poster here... why dont you take the time and actually see the things they post before passing judgment. Sure I posted some crude political jokes,I posted some politically incorrect links to youtube videos poking fun of politicians.... But i know alot of posters here can speak up that there is much more to my personality as a poster than someone that floods the board with biased political threads.

I am not sure what to do with you. I mean where ever I post there you are lurking underneath me with your haiku style of writing. Posting underhanded insults,and verbal jabs. I try to turn the other cheek,and look the other way. I dont set out every day on here and try to be an asshole. I have been told to ignore you,that you are a little fly buzzing about not meaning anything to be taken to heart.But god damn Fools,,,,get off my jock strap already.....

DarkFantasy96
11-30-2007, 03:41 PM
I don't think anything Fool says is meant to be taken seriously, LF. So just laugh it off. :D

LiquidFork
11-30-2007, 03:47 PM
I don't think anything Fool says is meant to be taken seriously, LF. So just laugh it off. :D

I want to.. I really do.. Part of me is touched he even takes the time out to write me such poetry.. But damn... he sure holds grudges long...

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 06:10 PM
I don't think anything Fool says is meant to be taken seriously, LF. So just laugh it off. :D

Good thing You ain't Serious.
But I still refuze to duhbate Theology or Philosophy with a
mere neophyte.
Plus,I doubt you attended College.
Yer Polemic is basically just Coulda,shoulda,woulda,and
sophomoric chit-chat.

tucker58
11-30-2007, 06:15 PM
Good thing You ain't Serious.
But I still refuze to duhbate Theology or Philosophy with a
mere neophyte.
Plus,I doubt you attended College.
Yer Polemic is basically just Coulda,shoulda,woulda,and
sophomoric chit-chat.

:)

tuck

tucker58
11-30-2007, 06:16 PM
I want to.. I really do.. Part of me is touched he even takes the time out to write me such poetry.. But damn... he sure holds grudges long...

:)

tuck

tucker58
11-30-2007, 06:28 PM
I don't think anything Fool says is meant to be taken seriously, LF. So just laugh it off. :D

Dark, Mr Foolsworth pollutes this messageboard :) Dark you present really good advice to this message and its members. Mr. Foolsworth is "rabid" and if he bites anyone, then they, that person, is going to be rabid also.

Mr. Foolsworth is a management problem, not ours. Management protects the community. We just live in it.

Love you!

tuck

tucker58
11-30-2007, 06:44 PM
Good thing You ain't Serious.
But I still refuze to duhbate Theology or Philosophy with a
mere neophyte.
Plus,I doubt you attended College.
Yer Polemic is basically just Coulda,shoulda,woulda,and
sophomoric chit-chat.

Mr. Foolsworth what you have posted above is "Character Assassination". No successful messageboard allows that sort of thing.

tuck

tucker58
11-30-2007, 06:51 PM
Oh !,So's NOW yer juts gonna bees a widdle rascally rabbit
out to play the Victimless Hero.
It ain't gonna work,thar Bubs.
The stripes are already ON yer Posts.
The best you could hope for is maybe an Executive clemency and
then a Long time in secluded retreat.
You have rotten apples painted all over yer " Id ".@

You have rotten apples painted all over yer " Id ".@

What you have again posted here Mr. Foolsworth is "Character Assassination". Sucessful messageboards do not allow that sort of thing.

tuck

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 07:16 PM
Mr. Foolsworth what you have posted above is "Character Assassination". No successful messageboard allows that sort of thing.

tuck

Not at all."Characacter assassination" is when a Vicious attack,of
usually a public person is done and grevious harm can result.
I merely pointed out that That Poster,hasn't got what it takes
to debate the Humanities,to a skill level,beyond probably Jr.high.
Saying I doubt she went to college,certainly is within me Rights.
Both as a Human,and message boarder...herein.
Plus, she Basically said I was not to be taken seriously.
That encompasses a WHOLE lot.
Both in terms of Fairness and also affecting how others may
broach a topic I discuss.
Double plus,she instructed,more than once for udders to
merely IGNORE Me posts.

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 07:20 PM
What you have again posted here Mr. Foolsworth is "Character Assassination". Sucessful messageboards do not allow that sort of thing.

tuck

OK,You got stuck having to eat SPAM,right from the can this
Eve.Not even as mush as a warming or some Grease dripping to
accompany.
Don't take it out on me,ya had to settle for cold,cruddy EATS.

tucker58
11-30-2007, 08:45 PM
OK,You got stuck having to eat SPAM,right from the can this
Eve.Not even as mush as a warming or some Grease dripping to
accompany.
Don't take it out on me,ya had to settle for cold,cruddy EATS.

Sir, all you are doing with the above post is saying to everybody is that you are "Rabid". And I actually know that I am actually next on your and your folk's list :) . I have dumped my messageboard personality and I am prepared to be banned. As an actual junior member of this messageboard, I have involked your personal wrath! I take that seriously.

You have changed the rules son and you ain't even a god. You have declared and proven yourself a player and we are all waiting to see what happens next.

tuck

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 09:01 PM
Sir, all you are doing with the above post is saying to everybody is that you are "Rabid". And I actually know that I am actually next on your and your folk's list :) . I have dumped my messageboard personality and I am prepared to be banned. As an actual junior member of this messageboard, I have involked your personal wrath! I take that seriously.

You have changed the rules son and you ain't even a god. You have declared and proven yourself a player and we are all waiting to see what happens next.

tuck

*****************************
Yup,yer suffering some kind of Delusions of Post Grandeur.
I don't have a clue what yer hinting at.
But Hint away.
If that's what tickles yer fancy.
Oh ! BTW... Who are the " we " in ," we are all waiting to see ... " ?

tucker58
11-30-2007, 09:09 PM
Not at all."Characacter assassination" is when a Vicious attack,of
usually a public person is done and grevious harm can result.
I merely pointed out that That Poster,hasn't got what it takes
to debate the Humanities,to a skill level,beyond probably Jr.high.
Saying I doubt she went to college,certainly is within me Rights.
Both as a Human,and message boarder...herein.
Plus, she Basically said I was not to be taken seriously.
That encompasses a WHOLE lot.
Both in terms of Fairness and also affecting how others may
broach a topic I discuss.
Double plus,she instructed,more than once for udders to
merely IGNORE Me posts.

Sir, folks that have not gone to college are welcome here also. You are only a god because management alows you to be. It has nothing to do with your education.

IGNORE Me posts.

Did you ignore Mr. Shaman's posts? No. You thew a "shittys" personally into the pile. We are suppose to ignor you, but you are not suppose to have to ignore us if we diagree with you. Hell that seems fair to me :) If you want to be here on this messageboard, take Mr. Foolsworth's abuse and ignor him. He is somebodies lap kitten. We are just nobodieds.

tuck

OldPhart
11-30-2007, 09:14 PM
Now now, fellows.

Play nice, I think both of you are more than welcome here. I have to admit that the challenge of decifering both of you guys posts is quite enjoyable and you both bring an eccentric "flair" to the boards.

:drinktoth

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 09:14 PM
[QUOTE=tucker58]Sir, folks that have not gone to college are welcome here also. You are only a god because management alows you to be. It has nothing to do with your education.



Did you ignore Mr. Shaman's posts? No. You thew a "shittys" personally into the pile. We are suppose to ignor you, but you are not suppose to have to ignore us if we diagree with you. Hell that seems fair to me :) If you want to be here on this messageboard, take Mr. Foolsworth's abuse and ignor him. He is somebodies lap kitten. We are just nobodieds.


oh !

Foolsworth
11-30-2007, 09:17 PM
[QUOTE=OldPhart]Now now, fellows.

Play nice, I think both of you are more than welcome here. I have to admit that the challenge of decifering both of you guys posts is quite enjoyable and you both bring an eccentric "flair" to the boards.


I don't need bees " deciphered " No mores than a Tenured Prof
needs to dust off his Sheepskins.I don't care if they ARE Latex.

OldPhart
11-30-2007, 09:28 PM
Oh contraire! Being of the southern persuasion, I often have to decifer myself!

(and those sheep intestine thingies are not safe or sanitary... try the new Michelin ones... 70,000 mile warranty!)

Sparky2
12-01-2007, 04:33 AM
70,000 mile warranty yes, but that warranty if null and void if your wiener is tasered while wearing the damn thing.

Not only does the tasering part hurt, you gotta go spend money on a new raincoat for Mr. Happy.

Word to the wise. Ixnay on the asertay on the ienerway.

:(

primitive man
12-01-2007, 09:26 AM
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! worldwide islamic state. yeah, you can't get anyone to agree amongst themselves on anything for that to happen. the christians proved that one. they have different churches, read the same book, and still can't agree on anything. BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

but if the islamics wanna bring back isa, and the end of civilization. go right ahead. i'm all for it.

tucker58
12-01-2007, 07:05 PM
*****************************
Yup,yer suffering some kind of Delusions of Post Grandeur.
I don't have a clue what yer hinting at.
But Hint away.
If that's what tickles yer fancy.
Oh ! BTW... Who are the " we " in ," we are all waiting to see ... " ?

Sunshine, I have read Sparky's post. Thank you Sparky for defining our working enviornment.

Sir Mr. Foolsworth you are using the "Royal "We"" word. This means that you are a part of a crowd that carries "power". And that you and this group are waiting for me (and maybe others) to handle what you personally have created, relative to you personally carrying power.

Mr. Foolsworth you personally ostracized me in one of your posts because I signed that post with, "I love You!" Those three words offended you.

Sunshine Mr. Foolsworth, what kills old established messageboards is the old established "Anal Retentive" members. These folks hunt sunshine and love and life (new menbers) to extinction. And then they (these old members) "lurk" for newbies. Management is "screwed".

This messageboard is at a pivotal point. Are you Mr. Sunshine and your "Royal We" folk, are or are not, going to be allowed to kill it. Mr. Sparky says no. From a researcher's view things are interesting. :)

God but I love All Forums.net! That sucker is real!

tuck

Shilohproject
12-01-2007, 09:04 PM
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! worldwide islamic state. yeah, you can't get anyone to agree amongst themselves on anything for that to happen. the christians proved that one. they have different churches, read the same book, and still can't agree on anything. BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!At least among Christians, in this day and age, there's not a lot of Methodists bombing Presbyterians, evem though we disagree on the Calvinism-Arminianism debate!

Shilohproject
12-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Sunshine Mr. Foolsworth, what kills old established messageboards is the old established "Anal Retentive" members. These folks hunt sunshine and love and life (new menbers) to extinction. And then they (these old members) "lurk" for newbies. Management is "screwed".
Should "anal retentive" have a hyphon when used as an adjective?:cool:

Napsterbater
12-01-2007, 09:16 PM
At least among Christians, in this day and age, there's not a lot of Methodists bombing Presbyterians, evem though we disagree on the Calvinism-Arminianism debate!
It's spelled, "even."

Foolsworth
12-01-2007, 09:24 PM
At least among Christians, in this day and age, there's not a lot of Methodists bombing Presbyterians, evem though we disagree on the Calvinism-Arminianism debate!


Institutes of the Christian Religion {1536}
" God who is perfect righteousness,cannot love the inquiry
which He sees in all.All of us,therefore,have that within us which
deserves the hatred of God. "

-- John Calvin { ne Jean Chauvin or Caulvin }

Foolsworth
12-01-2007, 09:27 PM
It's spelled, "even."

How wood U know,thar mere Atheist boy.?
You haven't the meams to evem doubt a spelling,In my book.

Shilohproject
12-01-2007, 09:32 PM
It's spelled, "even."
It's not a spelling problem this time; it's a typo.:cool:

Shilohproject
12-01-2007, 09:33 PM
Institutes of the Christian Religion {1536}
" God who is perfect righteousness,cannot love the inquiry
which He sees in all.All of us,therefore,have that within us which
deserves the hatred of God. "

-- John Calvin { ne Jean Chauvin or Caulvin }Help me out: what's the point here.

tucker58
12-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Should "anal retentive" have a hyphon when used as an adjective?:cool:

I love you Shiloh :) I have editors that handle that stuff :) I ain't no Michael Crichton you know :)

Sparky says that I can't use the word "asshole" anymore, so I am doing the best that I can. :)

Love you!

tuck

Shilohproject
12-01-2007, 09:46 PM
I have editors that handle that stuff :) Actually, I do too. But it's still a sphincter clenching conundrum, huh?:cool:

OldPhart
12-01-2007, 10:09 PM
Sparky says that I can't use the word "asshole" anymore, so I am doing the best that I can.
We can't say "asshole" anymore? Shit, that's my wife's pet name for me (and no, I'm NOT kidding)

Foolsworth
12-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Help me out: what's the point here.


" I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this
year's fashions. "

-- Lillian Hellman

Foolsworth
12-01-2007, 10:17 PM
I love you Shiloh :) I have editors that handle that stuff :) I ain't no Michael Crichton you know :)

Sparky says that I can't use the word "asshole" anymore, so I am doing the best that I can. :)

Love you!

tuck

I just bet if Sparky said,it was time fer Beddie,you'd gladly
throw a tissy and then git all sleepy pooh.

primitive man
12-02-2007, 07:58 AM
At least among Christians, in this day and age, there's not a lot of Methodists bombing Presbyterians, evem though we disagree on the Calvinism-Arminianism debate!

no, but they do pay taxes to a government that sends a billion dollars to isreal, and to bomb other countries that don't agree with them.

tucker58
12-02-2007, 07:50 PM
Actually, I do too. But it's still a sphincter clenching conundrum, huh?:cool:

Cool Shiloh :)

I don't mind. "Sphincter clenching", is your world not mine.

Love,

tuck