If any of you want a special FORUM for the US, you should've started a whole new FORUM, but by doing this you are trying to tell us that the US is special and above all the other countries of the World, BS... Thought AllForums was an International Forum with the participation of people from everywhere... Guess it is not...

See ya...

Don't bother writing a reply to this POST.

don't let the door hit ya on the way out:)

Please don't take it upon yourself to establish the rules around here. The majority of people posting on Allforums are from the U.S. Get over it.

P.S. the majority of people in the U.S. are also conservatives. Get over that, too.

If any of you want a special FORUM for the US, you should've started a whole new FORUM, but by doing this you are trying to tell us that the US is special and above all the other countries of the World, BS... Thought AllForums was an International Forum with the participation of people from everywhere... Guess it is not...

See ya...

Don't bother writing a reply to this POST.
Bye! Don't come back! :)
P.S. the majority of people in the U.S. are also conservatives. Get over that, too.
WTF? That's not even close to true.

If any of you want a special FORUM for the US, you should've started a whole new FORUM, but by doing this you are trying to tell us that the US is special and above all the other countries of the World, BS... Thought AllForums was an International Forum with the participation of people from everywhere... Guess it is not...

See ya...

Don't bother writing a reply to this POST.

come on... dont tell me someone is going to win the jackass of the day before 10am.....

come on... dont tell me someone is going to win the jackass of the day before 10am.....
I know you had your heart set on winning that award for the 100th straight day, LF, but better luck next time. ;)

Bye! Don't come back! :)

WTF? That's not even close to true.

Wanna prove it's not true? I have undisputed proof... liberals are NOT in charge of this country... much to their obvious chagrin.

I'll anxiously await your statistics to prove otherwise.

;)
SMW

I know you had your heart set on winning that award for the 100th straight day, LF, but better luck next time. ;)

ahhh come on borg there is alot of stiff competition here for jackass of the day... for me to of won it 100 days in a row with the likes of you all is a life time accomlishment... ... I want to thank the academy...my family.... my dog spot.... my goldfish barry..... ::music gets louder and louder::

:corn:

P.S. the majority of people in the U.S. are also conservatives. Get over that, too.How do you mean "conservative"?

Wanna prove it's not true? I have undisputed proof... Do share.
...liberals are NOT in charge of this country... Flag burning is legal. Abortion is legal. Organized school prayer is illegal. Evil Hollywood liberals are still raking in the dough. Women and minorities get to vote.:cool:

Ta Ta. *waves*

Do share.
Flag burning is legal. Abortion is legal. Organized school prayer is illegal. Evil Hollywood liberals are still raking in the dough. Women and minorities get to vote.:cool:


Demographics of Liberals
While it is difficult to gather demographic information on ideological groups, some studies have been conducted. Liberalism remains most popular among those in academia and liberals commonly tend to be highly educated and relatively affluent. According to recent surveys, between a 19% and 26% of the American electorate identify as liberal, versus moderate or conservative.[4] A 2004 study by the Pew Research Center identified 19% of Americans as liberal. According to the study, liberals were the most affluent and educated ideological demographic. Of those who identified as liberal, 49% were college graduates and 41% had household incomes exceeding $75,000, compared to 27% and 28% as the national average, respectively.[5] Liberalism also remains the dominant political ideology in academia, with 72% of full-time faculty identifying as liberal in a 2004 study. The social sciences and humanities were most liberal, whereas business and engineering departments were the most conservative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States

Geesh, do I have to teach you guys EVERYTHING?

19-26% is far from the majority, folks. Just because you cry louder doesn't mean there are more of you. Just seems that way to those of us who have to listen to you.



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Wanna prove it's not true? I have undisputed proof... liberals are NOT in charge of this country... much to their obvious chagrin.

I'll anxiously await your statistics to prove otherwise.

;)
SMW
Hew, SMW! Majority means "more than 50%". Provide statistics saying that self-identified conservatives make up more than 50% of the country. I know you're wrong saying that the majority of the country is self-identified conservative, and I suspect you'd be wrong saying that self-identified conservatives even enjoy a plurality. I imagine that plurality probably belongs to self-identified moderates.

Saying that self-identified liberals are not the majority is NOT THE SAME as saying that self-identified conservatives are the majority.

Hew, SMW! Majority means "more than 50%". Provide statistics saying that self-identified conservatives make up more than 50% of the country. I know you're wrong saying that the majority of the country is self-identified conservative, and I suspect you'd be wrong saying that self-identified conservatives even enjoy a plurality. I imagine that plurality probably belongs to self-identified moderates.

Saying that self-identified liberals are not the majority is NOT THE SAME as saying that self-identified conservatives are the majority.

Nobody said a word about self-identified anythings, Borg. Give it up... you can't win this one.

Big words won't save you. Facts are facts.

;)
SMW

Nobody said a word about self-identified anythings, Borg. Give it up... you can't win this one.

Big words won't save you. Facts are facts.

;)
SMW
Sorry, SMW, you simply don't understand the words you're using. You claim that conservatives enjoy a majority in this country; i.e., 50% plus one person, or more, of this country is a conservative. The most fair way to define "conservative" is by self-identification, but fine, use whatever identification you want. Show me the statistics that 50% plus one person of this country is conservative.

Sorry, SMW, you simply don't understand the words you're using. You claim that conservatives enjoy a majority in this country; i.e., 50% plus one person, or more, of this country is a conservative. The most fair way to define "conservative" is by self-identification, but fine, use whatever identification you want. Show me the statistics that 50% plus one person of this country is conservative.

OK, Borg... here's some more big words you might understand better.

THE WASHINGTON MONTHLY

LIBERALS vs. CONSERVATIVES....Today, Scott Winship takes on an ancient question: how does the American electorate break down between liberals and conservatives? After some preliminary throat clearing, here's his answer:

42% say they're conservative and really are conservative.
5% say they're liberal but are actually conservative.
13% are genuinely centrist (or perhaps just confused).
13% say they're conservative but are actually liberal.
27% say they're liberal and really are liberal.

So: if you go by what people say, conservatives outnumber liberals 55% to 32%. If you go by how they act, conservatives outnumber liberals 47% to 40%. Here's a bit more detail on how this breaks down:

Adults are conservative on foreign policy and national security (52 to 48) and values (62 to 38), but liberal on economic/social policy (57 to 43) and fiscal policy (60 to 40). Consistent with the idea that liberal is a stigmatized word, just 56 percent of operational liberals self-identified as liberal, while 30 percent self-identified as conservative. In contrast, 79 percent of operational conservatives said they were conservative.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_07/009150.php

I stand by what I SHOULD HAVE SAID in my initial statement: Liberals are NOT the majority in this country. ;)

I stand by my initial statement... LIBERALS ARE NOT THE MAJORITY IN THIS COUNTRY.
That was not your initial statement! And I never would disagree with that statement! Liberals are not the majority in this country, but neither are conservatives! Jesus Tapdancing Christ, how much clearer can I be?

By the way, the statistics you just pasted? They're from a blog, of all things. I'd rather trust the Pew Institute...

Adults, late 2004, Pew Research Center for the People and the Press: 19% liberal, 39% conservative (remainder are moderate) http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/242.pdf

OK... let's leave it to the Pew Institute:

A 2004 study by the Pew Research Center identified 19% of Americans as liberal.

(the only reason I posted the self-identified crap was to humor you... besides, it's a liberal website)

And you're right... my actual statement SHOULD have been:

LIBERALS ARE NOT THE MAJORITY IN THIS COUNTRY.

However, in my social, family and work circle, as well as the White House, conservatives ARE the majority.

Apples & oranges, dear... we could go on like this forever.

If any of you want a special FORUM for the US, you should've started a whole new FORUM, but by doing this you are trying to tell us that the US is special and above all the other countries of the World, BS... Thought AllForums was an International Forum with the participation of people from everywhere... Guess it is not...

See ya...

Don't bother writing a reply to this POST.
This is the best US news I've seen all day. You'll be missed, Liberal.

19-26% is far from the majority, folks. Just because you cry louder doesn't mean there are more of you. Just seems that way to those of us who have to listen to you.
No one said there were more liberals in the country than non-liberals. In response to your actual comment: ...liberals are NOT in charge...

I said: Flag burning is legal. Abortion is legal. Organized school prayer is illegal. Evil Hollywood liberals are still raking in the dough. Women and minorities get to vote.

These are all liberal issues. So who is actually in charge, huh?

No one said there were more liberals in the country than non-liberals. In response to your actual comment: ...liberals are NOT in charge...

I said: Flag burning is legal. Abortion is legal. Organized school prayer is illegal. Evil Hollywood liberals are still raking in the dough. Women and minorities get to vote.

These are all liberal issues. So who is actually in charge, huh?
You think conservatives wanna make flag-burning illegal? You think they wanna cut the salaries in Hollywood? You think they wanna deprive women and minorities of the right to vote!?!?

Dude, what the fuck's the matter with you? That was pretty offensive, actually.

Dude, what the fuck's the matter with you? That was pretty offensive, actually.These are clearly Liberal, er, Secular Progressive, issues. Sorry if you don't like it. Take it up with the "Traditionalists."

They maybe progressive (god, I love that term) "issues", but they're by no means unique to your party. You don't champion all things American and pure, you know. You guys aren't our saviors. :rolleyes:

However, in my social, family and work circle...conservatives ARE the majority.
A) You live in Texas.
B) People whom one choose to surround oneself with are usually similar in interests and attitude.
C) What kind of idiot would believe that liberals are the majority in this country? (That said, what kind of idiot would believe that conservatives are the majority in this country? But I digress...) There is no political majority in the United States, and the plurality? Well, moderates happen to have a plurality. And this presupposes only a left/right paradigm, which is wholly inaccurate as I consider myself somewhat radical but I am certainly neither liberal nor conservative. What the hell am I, a radical moderate? No, I'm a libertarian.

God, but this is a stupid argument anyway. What the hell does it matter?

They maybe progressive (god, I love that term) "issues", but they're by no means unique to your party."Liberal" isn't a party.
You don't champion all things American and pure, you know. You guys aren't our saviors. :rolleyes:Many times the Liberals are damn well your savior, whether you accept it or not.

(Btw, I am not a Liberal, though your assumption says something about you.)

That was not your initial statement! And I never would disagree with that statement! Liberals are not the majority in this country, but neither are conservatives! Jesus Tapdancing Christ, how much clearer can I be?

By the way, the statistics you just pasted? They're from a blog, of all things. I'd rather trust the Pew Institute...

Adults, late 2004, Pew Research Center for the People and the Press: 19% liberal, 39% conservative (remainder are moderate) http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/242.pdf

Yer not thinkin Rationally.
Obviously a 3rd party or Independent's can't be a majority.
But of the 2 Major party,AGAIN...Obviously one has to hold a
majority.Because if not than yer basically sayin their TIED.
And that's Impossible.
Obviously ONE of the 2 big parties has to have the majority.
I guess one could use the popular vote.
But i'd rather use the Red vs. Blue states Motif.
Because the Major metropolis are definately a majority of Dimocrats.
That's what Motivates Hillary and why she originally dint feel the need
to stop at Fly-over states but rather focus all her energy on Big cities
Like L.A,New York,Chicago etc.

"Liberal" isn't a party.
Many times the Liberals are damn well your savior, whether you accept it or not.

(Btw, I am not a Liberal, though your assumption says something about you.)
My, my, but you must have been living under a rock these past few years! Liberal isn't something you can decide for yourself whether you are or not anymore. If someone calls you a liberal, that makes you a liberal!

My, my, but you must have been living under a rock these past few years! Liberal isn't something you can decide for yourself whether you are or not anymore. If someone calls you a liberal, that makes you a liberal!

I'm not sure if Irony or Hypocrisy would do justice to the
hard to explain recent phenonmena of ALL these Liberal Pols
from Kerry to Dean to just about any Dimocrat cept Kennedy
who share this abnormal fear of loathing to be called what they
truly are...which is Liberal.
One surefire test for a Liberal of late,is that if a Politician throws
a tizzy fit over bein called a Liberal,then they Are.
By all means Liberal.

One surefire test for a Liberal of late,is that if a Politician throws
a tizzy fit over bein called a Liberal,then they Are.
By all means Liberal.You ought to know, you Left wing extremist!

I don't understand liberal's problem with Allforums or his anger.

There are twenty four individual subsites on Allforums. One deals specifically with United States issues and one deals specifically with non-United States issues. The other twenty two deal with issues that are not unique to any one nation.

I don't understand liberal's problem with Allforums or his anger.I don't either. The "U.S. News" forum was created because non-political U.S. news stories were being posted in "World News", there being no better place to put them. But when 9 out of 10 threads in "World News" are really U.S. news stories it leaves the impression that the members here think that America is the whole world. I would have thought conveying that impression is far more offensive than a separate forum created to redress it.

I don't either. The "U.S. News" forum was created because non-political U.S. news stories were being posted in "World News", there being no better place to put them. But when 9 out of 10 threads in "World News" are really U.S. news stories it leaves the impression that the members here think that America is the whole world. I would have thought conveying that impression is far more offensive than a separate forum created to redress it.

Say...how do U know...Thar Bub.?
Whata ya some kind of Illussionist round hears.
In point of facts,yer gettin a little too above yer pay grade
round here and that's not nice.
Don't furgit,If yer Not Nice,ya can't post
over at Smarty's place {thread/board }.
I bet that wasn't in yer deck of cards.
Probably some 'ol sailors deck with them Betty Grable gam
Joker's.

The United States was still part of the World and vice-versa
no matter what The United Nations or Robert Redford say.

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