Over my last summer holidays i visited gallipoli, in southern italy, and there i met a guy who was born in that area and who usually spoke a strange language with a friend of himself; well i could't understand a word so i asked him what kind of dialect was that.

That's how i've realized there are some greek langs still spoken somewhere in southern italy; it's so fascinating to think that after centuries and invasions of several populations somewhere in southern italy the ancient greek language still survives.

mainly thanks to internet, i've known a bit more about the greek langs spoken in italy:

one is spoken in the area of reggio calabria- calabria , and it comes from the time of the greek "poleis" also known as "Magna graecia": it seems to be related to the ancient greek languace spoken in greece in the gold age of athens and sparta

The other one is spoken in the area of lecce-apulia and it comes from the byzantium invasion of southern italy after the fall of the western roman empire when bysantium invaded the italian peninsula to try to refound the roman empire and so that greek lang is quite more recent than the other one

If someone on Allforums is fluent with modern greek, i'd love to talk with him about this argument: i'm interested into the differences between modern greek and those 2 langs, it's my personal research: how are some isolated langs been influenced by other dominant languages?

I think this thread won't be so popular on here but, maybe, someone could help me, who knows :)

Wow, that's really interesting!

I'm glad we got a new poster who is a good contributor in the history section. :)

Wow, that's really interesting!

I'm glad we got a new poster who is a good contributor in the history section. :)
thanks :) by the way do you know if someone on allforums can speak "koinč" fluently? i joined a greek chat-room weeks ago to talk about this argument but i found just some perverts who were interested in something really different :(

I don't know... The topic of Greek hasn't really come up as far as I've seen, so I don't know if anyone speaks it.

It's all Greek to me. :@@: :@@:

It's all Greek to me. :@@: :@@:
really? cool, someday would you like to help me to investigate on the evolution of those 2 isolated greek languages?
uhm i know it's not so exciting :)

really? cool, someday would you like to help me to investigate on the evolution of those 2 isolated greek languages?
uhm i know it's not so exciting :)My apologies.

"It's all Greek to me" is an idiom used to express bafflement or confusion. Looking at computer code, for example, when one is not a programmer could cause one to say "It's all Greek to me", meaning "I don't understand this at all".

Please pardon my attempt at humor. :)

My apologies.

"It's all Greek to me" is an idiom used to express bafflement or confusion. Looking at computer code, for example, when one is not a programmer could cause one to say "It's all Greek to me", meaning "I don't understand this at all".

Please pardon my attempt at humor. :)
ahhhhh never heard of that idiomatic expression before :) i've learnt something new :) in italian there's a similar idiomatic form with the same meaning, but related to the chinese language not to greek :)

Valentina,

If you are interested in learning more about the Greek spoken in Calabria do a Google search of the word Griko.

yea, i did that type of research some months ago, and, for example, i found the following sites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griko_language
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9479/griko.html
http://www.salentu.com/grecia-salentina/gr_canti.asp
http://www.eurac.edu/Focus/Languageminorities/linguistic_islands_greco_it.htm

anyways i'd love to ask something especially about the grammatical differences between modern greek and those 2 greek languages to someone fluent in modern greek :)
on msn i sometimes talk to that guy i've met in gallipoli but he can't speak modern greek at all