View Full Version : Turkey Responds To Kurds; World's Opinion
Mr. Shaman
10-21-2007, 08:14 AM
"I find it hilarious that Iraqi Kurds are protesting against Turkish incursion into Iraq & are worried about sovereignty of their country. Weren't these the very Kurds who helped US invade their own country (http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=3691&edition=2&ttl=20071021141123). Hypocrites." - Mansoor Ansari
paulc
10-21-2007, 02:48 PM
The White House could find itself in a bit of a predicament here.
The PKK the Kurds,who were/are in alliance with the US,have made attacks into Turkey,killing Turkish troops,thus there is a case for saying,
the White House actually supports terrorists.
sedan
10-21-2007, 03:03 PM
The White House could find itself in a bit of a predicament here.
The PKK the Kurds,who were/are in alliance with the US,have made attacks into Turkey,killing Turkish troops,thus there is a case for saying,
the White House actually supports terrorists.Not much new about that. The Sunni insurgents (those 'dead-enders' who were 'in their last throes' not so very long ago) are now our allies in the apocalyptic struggle against the 800 or so al-Qaeda fighters remaining in Iraq. They were terrorists too until we bought their assistance. Now they are brave freedom-loving tribesmen.
paulc
10-21-2007, 03:08 PM
Yes.Its a very bad idea to throw the T word around,you never know where its gonna show up.
The age old saying ''one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter'' comes into play very well here.
Classic example.
Travh20
10-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Once you target civilians on purpose you have crossed the line into terrorism. If you do nothing more then fight agaisnt our military as it enters your town I would not consider you a terrorist. enemy combatant more like
This area is not going to be allowed to become stable. A stable region is hard to manipulate.
paulc
10-22-2007, 01:00 PM
Once you target civilians on purpose you have crossed the line into terrorism. If you do nothing more then fight agaisnt our military as it enters your town I would not consider you a terrorist. enemy combatant more like
No one in their right mind is gonna come out and stand having a go at the US military,theyd last a matter of minutes.
This fact was played out as long ago as South East Asia.
From your point I take it u view Blackwater as a terrorist movement then.
Travh20
10-22-2007, 01:49 PM
No one in their right mind is gonna come out and stand having a go at the US military,theyd last a matter of minutes.
This fact was played out as long ago as South East Asia.
From your point I take it u view Blackwater as a terrorist movement then.
I didn't mean they were going to gather a combined arms force and carry out large scale military operations against us. I meant blowing up an IED, sniping from a building, stuff like that. As long as it is aimed at our military I do not consider those terrorist acts.
now when you start setting off bombs in grocery stores for no other reason but to kill innocents and spread fear and panic then you are a terrorist. Blowing up our troops with IED's is cowardly, but not a terrorist act in my opinion.
On a side note, were the Viet Cong considered a terrorist org.? I dont recall them ever being called that.
Frogger
10-22-2007, 03:35 PM
The problem of the Kurds is a direct result of actions taken after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. Kurds were split up into different countries with no regard for their wishes. They were just farmed out as if they were so much cattle.
paulc
10-22-2007, 03:45 PM
Yeah,I know the feeling.
waldo
10-22-2007, 03:53 PM
"I find it hilarious that Iraqi Kurds are protesting against Turkish incursion into Iraq & are worried about sovereignty of their country. Weren't these the very Kurds who helped US invade their own country (http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=3691&edition=2&ttl=20071021141123). Hypocrites." - Mansoor Ansari
That ansari would find it hilarious makes little sense unless ansari has a bizarre sense of humor. The two instances are in no way related except for the fact that there are kurds in each situation. Beyond that..... In the first instance they were supporting a force that would liberate them from a brutal dictator. In the second the invader threatens the prosperity they've created after liberation. Rather stupid comment from ansari.
Freethinker
10-22-2007, 09:29 PM
Once you target civilians on purpose you have crossed the line into terrorism.
From your lips to the ConservaFascist's ears.
Hopefully.
Shilohproject
10-23-2007, 09:43 PM
The problem of the Kurds is a direct result of actions taken after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. Kurds were split up into different countries with no regard for their wishes. They were just farmed out as if they were so much cattle.Such can be said about much of the Middle East, I fear.
Shilohproject
10-23-2007, 09:44 PM
From your lips to the ConservaFascist's ears.
Hopefully.Are you suggesting that the US "targets" civilians?