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paulc
10-06-2007, 02:29 AM
The Vatican is to publish a book which is expected to shed light on the demise of the Knights Templar,a Christian military order from the middle ages.

Will this put to bed the 'Holy Grail',stories,input more mystery to the tale,or Vatican propaganda to try and kill of the tale.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7029513.stm

es347fan
10-06-2007, 07:32 AM
In a word: no.

The 'good ole boys' of the Vatican have their propoganda down to a science and want nothing more than to discredit anything published about them, their history and anything else they might dream up, that arrives on the public stage without both an Imprimatur (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Imprimatur)and a Nihil obstat (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Nihil_obstat). Anything else is heresy. The Roman Catholic Church is very protective of itself.

rendova
10-06-2007, 07:57 AM
The Knights Templar was dissolved on charges of heresy and "sorcery" because the reigning King of France was in debt to them. Here's more:


The Templars' success was tied closely to the success of the Crusades. When the Holy Land was lost and the Templars suffered crushing defeats, support for the Order's existence faded. Rumors about the Templars' secret initiation ceremony created mistrust, and King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Order, began pressuring Pope Clement V to take action. On Friday, October 13, 1307, King Philip had many of the Order's members, including the Grand Master Jacques de Molay, arrested, tortured into "confessions", and burned at the stake.[5] In 1312, Pope Clement, under continuing pressure from King Philip, forcibly disbanded the entire Order. The sudden disappearance of a major part of the European infrastructure gave rise to speculation and legends, which have kept the name "Templar" alive in modern fiction.

PS. I don't buy the current fashionable Grail legend that the "Grail" as we think of it was in fact Mary Magdalene. I believe the Grail was a true chalice that figures prominently in the Arthurian legends.

paulc
10-06-2007, 09:30 AM
The theory of a bloodline,as depicted in the film,didnt do anything for me,I would tend to agree on the grail being a cup or chalice.

paulc
10-06-2007, 09:58 AM
After being driven out of the Holy Land and then persecuted in Europe,some Templars found sanctory in Scotland,were their graves tell of them having lived there in the 14th century.
It has been suggested that Templars were the Scottish Cavalry who defeated the English at Bannockburn in 1314,as the Scots didnt have a mounte force.These men were known as The Scots Guard.

Two prominent Scottish Families of the time were the Stuarts and the Sinclairs,Hugus de Payns,the first Grand Master of the Templars was married to a Sinclair.

The Sinclairs castle near Edinburgh was next to Rosslyn chapel which was built by the Sinclair Family,on a floorplan of Solomans Temple.Engraved in the stonework of the chapel are images of maize and aloe plants,at the time only found in North America,so had the Templars been there before the Spanish.

Napsterbater
10-06-2007, 10:00 AM
Templar is just a cool sounding word, it most certainly wouldn't have disappeared even if the circumstances were shady.

paulc
10-06-2007, 11:46 AM
Maybe maybe not,but its one of those stories that just wont go away.

CarbonBasedLife
10-09-2007, 11:30 AM
Templar is just a cool sounding word, it most certainly wouldn't have disappeared even if the circumstances were shady.

Not to mention a totally badass class in Starcraft.