As a professional mystic. I would say that nobody in their right mind would ever choose to be a mystic. But at the sametime talking about the mystic experience is something to do :)

Nappy is going to say that it is all full of BS, Afinertouch is going to say that it is all full of BS, our beloved Borghunter is going to also say it is full of BS, probably Choberst :) we don't know about him just yet, LiquidFork is probably going to be just totally twisty :) , and Frogger is just going to go, "Oh crap :) in a "Holy Smokes" reality :) why me :) ".

Anyway guys, I am going to play here for awhile just for fun. And I do not care how you would like to approach this topic, you are welcome to step into it. I don't mind.

tuck

As a professional mystic. I would say that nobody in their right mind would ever choose to be a mystic. But at the sametime talking about the mystic experience is something to do :)

LiquidFork is probably going to be just totally twisty :)

allright... I will bite

Tell me tuck what does being a professional mystic actually mean? Is there a club? tee shirts?secret handshake???

Oh, I have little doubt you're a mystic, tucker. What I want to know is how you manage to make a living doing it. That is what "professional" means, in case you forgot.

Oh, I have little doubt you're a mystic, tucker. What I want to know is how you manage to make a living doing it. That is what "professional" means, in case you forgot.

Nappy I don't make a living at. And I looked up the word for professional and there are a whole bunch of meanings to the word that have nothing to do with making money. Not that that really matters. Professional can also mean someone who is highly trained at something and that something is not a hobby. It is full time.

Nappy that is interesting that you think that I might actually be a mystic. This is what I like about you, you are full of suprises. And you take a licking and keep on ticking :) so to speak :) The unshakable Molly Brown. I admire that in you, not that it matters.

The truth is Nappy I do everything that I can to not make a living at it. I don't like people :) that is probably what makes me a good mystic.

tuck

allright... I will bite

Tell me tuck what does being a professional mystic actually mean? Is there a club? tee shirts?secret handshake???

LF :) you and Imp are giving Michelle a run for her money. She is going to get lost in the dust here. God but I love kids, I just know that I do!

LF, I don't know any other mystics so I can't answer your questions.

tuck

Of all the definitions I could find of the word, "professional," none could be applied to a mystic. Perhaps you could point one out?

What the hell is a mystic anyways?

They're like philosophers but without all the mental heavy lifting. Instead they do heavy meditation. Supposedly it makes them wiser, but I have yet to see even anecdotal evidence of the phenomenon. All it ever really seems to accomplish is a hefty divorcing from reality.

Better question is how can you being a mystic by profession help me... Can you help me with where i lost my car keys?

Of all the definitions I could find of the word, "professional," none could be applied to a mystic. Perhaps you could point one out?

Ok :) Noun: 3. A person who does something with great skill.

I am pretty good at what I can do Nappy and a person making money off of God, is just not doable. Ok? Everything that I know, and it is all based on personal experience (53 years), is for free, to those that are at least curious. Nappy I have 500 posts on this messageboard. I have fought my way into being a player (and I can play :) ), just so that I can run free information in this topic. Just for those who are curious or interested. "The PsyshoSocial Dynamics of a MessageBoard" stuff :) I might make some money off of that one. Ok?

"Minds at Play" and I am abit psychic. Nappy, I will be honest with you at this time :) I cheat!

What is a true mystic? Someone who has attached themselves to the mind of God :) The question now is, "What is real and what is not?" And I guess everything that is in between.

Nappy, anybody can claim to be anything. Talk is cheap! What is my point :) Nappy watch yourself, inspite of the fact that you are squirmy, I am going to give you a big loving hug :) !

tuck (y) :)

I am abit psychic. :)

please tell me where my keys are?

please tell me where my keys are?

LF, Personally I think that you should run the pictures and dump the words :) A picture is worth a thousand words.

About "Frogger", I will have to hunt you to extinction if you actually piss him off. He is a man of God. Wether I am or not :) Ok? Please do not pick on "Frogger". Ok? I am asking everybody nicely.

Those are your keys son :) party on. Ok?

LF, Please cut Frogger some slack. Lf, I am happy that you are willing to talk to me, it is just please don't get cocky about it. I love a good war to extinction, wether it is you or me :) the choice is yours LF. I am really good at what I can do. LF you are not a "Nappy". Nobody on this messageboard is in his weight class :) But then Nappy don't screw with Frogger either. It is not that he knows that he can't,. It is because he knows that Frogger is a good person. :)

LF, your creativiity is fun! And you will challenge Sparky :) ! We are all watching to see how this turns out :) !

Love!

tuck

LF, I have to answer to Sparky and God (and maybe even Nappy. He and I are still working that one out). You LF, are just on the party :) ,I told you that your personality was becoming interesting.

:)

tuck

I did find my keys. left them in the ignition..sad thing is i have done that before...

tuck not sure what you mean bout froggy.. me and him see eye to eye on most things. Froggy seems to dish out as much as he takes so i dont think he needs any type of protecting... You might want to turn your attention to DF... you might like her personality.

Ok :) Noun: 3. A person who does something with great skill.
Okay. What dictionary did you get this from?

But then Nappy don't screw with Frogger either. It is not that he knows that he can't,. It is because he knows that Frogger is a good person. :)
I have destroyed Frogger more than once.

got a link to prove it?
come on i am bored....

If you're that bored, search for them yourself. Believe you me, even if you don't find the threads with me and Frogger, doing a search of threads over a year old with Napsterbater's posts in them is bound to amuse you for a few hours. Just do me a favor, and don't resurrect any.

Just do me a favor, and don't resurrect any.

awwwwwwwwwwwwww your killin me nappy......

Seriously. Nobody likes going into a thread where most of the original posters are gone. 'Specially since few of them bother checking the dates on the posts before replying to long gone participants.

i will never understand why there are 3 pages of guests on here at times and they are looking at posts from 03....

They're search engine spiders.

still..... 30 or so... or i will see alot of people "registering" yet never see them post.. not that i could keep track of them all..

They register, then post in the spam sections. Those posts never see the light of day because those sections are set so that members can't see them. It was the only thing Borg could do to keep those posts from cluttering up the New Posts quick search results pages.

ahhhhhhh... good job borg.... so these 30 so odd members are just wasting their time huh?

I did find my keys. left them in the ignition..sad thing is i have done that before...

tuck not sure what you mean bout froggy.. me and him see eye to eye on most things. Froggy seems to dish out as much as he takes so i dont think he needs any type of protecting... You might want to turn your attention to DF... you might like her personality.
Hahah oh god... Your keys were in the ignition?? :lolhit: Don't do any driving.

I did find my keys. left them in the ignition..sad thing is i have done that before...

tuck not sure what you mean bout froggy.. me and him see eye to eye on most things. Froggy seems to dish out as much as he takes so i dont think he needs any type of protecting... You might want to turn your attention to DF... you might like her personality.

LF you take all the fun out of things, LF you are boring. The thing about DarkFantacy is that she is real, you are not. You are a real "want-a-be" and never will be and never know why.

Oh well.

tuck

LF you take all the fun out of things, LF you are boring. The thing about DarkFantacy is that she is real, you are not. You are a real "want-a-be" and never will be and never know why.

Oh well.

tuck
What makes me real and LF a wannabe? I'm curious as to how you judge these things.

My guess would be sheep entrails.

Okay. What dictionary did you get this from?

Webster's NewWorld Dictionary, second college edition.

My really big dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (weighs over twelve lbs), also says the says thing.

Nappy, I am sorry that I am a confusing reality.

tuck

I have destroyed Frogger more than once.

Well! Fine, just be that way then!

tuck

American Heritage Dictionary:

ADJECTIVE: 1a. Of, relating to, engaged in, or suitable for a profession: lawyers, doctors, and other professional people. b. Conforming to the standards of a profession: professional behavior. 2. Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a career: a professional writer. 3. Performed by persons receiving pay: professional football. 4. Having or showing great skill; expert: a professional repair job.
NOUN: 1. A person following a profession, especially a learned profession. 2. One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation: hired a professional to decorate the house. 3. A skilled practitioner; an expert.

Miriam-Webster Online

1pro·fes·sion·al Listen to the pronunciation of 1professional
Pronunciation:
\prə-ˈfesh-nəl, -ˈfe-shə-nəl\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1606

1 a: of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession b: engaged in one of the learned professions c (1): characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2): exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace2 a: participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer> b: having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier> c: engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>3: following a line of conduct as though it were a profession <a professional patriot>
I do see you as having a good claim to the third Miriam-Webster definition. But I do hate it when people subvert the meanings of words to make themselves sound like they're worthy of note.

What makes me real and LF a wannabe? I'm curious as to how you judge these things.

Hi DarkFantasy and welcome to the mystic thread :)

God talks to me :) (Or maybe it is Nappy. It is sometimes hard to tell those two apart. But the one that I think is God seems to be really bigger.).

I don't know, it has nothing to do with you being a woman, that is for sure. Basically you say alot of stuff that really makes sense. And you seem to be a nice person, at least nicer than me. LF is your standard issue idiot. All message boards have at least one. I like Imp because he/she is rogue. LF isn't even smart enough to be rogue. He just thinks that he is.

tuck

All message boards have at least one.
My vote goes to SMW.

American Heritage Dictionary:



Miriam-Webster Online


I do see you as having a good claim to the third Miriam-Webster definition. But I do hate it when people subvert the meanings of words to make themselves sound like they're worthy of note.

Cool :) party on :) ! I don't mind.

tucky

My vote goes to SMW.

:) that lady is in a class of her own :) I would never tangle with her!

tuck

But I do hate it when people subvert the meanings of words to make themselves sound like they're worthy of note.

:) Lets start here: "Professional", Nappy your avatar pic indicates that you are a "Professional" merc. Your "mean-muggin" indicates that you are a "Pofessional" street punk. Are you actually any of these things? We know that you are a school yard bully. And that, "I am a know it all nerd/idiot". :)

Have your people check my military record, Nappy. It is not only classified :) but it is still classified. :) play as you wish with that one. I don't mind.

I knew that when I posted the concept of "profesional" that I had you :)

"Activity is the life of a messageboard." Look at my avatar pic, there is nothing cool about it. Look at my sig., there is nothing cool about it. I am just mouthy :)

Your turn Nappy, this is going to be fun :) no matter what you say.

tuck (y) :)

A true Mystic is sombody who has spent alot of time in meditative prayer to God. With the understanding that God is suppose to talk back to you :)

The problem is that God will. And then your question is, "Do I really want to continue this?!"

We are caught in a this world's reality. What God (whoever that boy/girl is) says to you about things will have actually nothing to do with this "world's reality." There might be a leaning curve while God is explaining to you why what God is saying has nothing to do with this world's reality.

After all Jesus tried and He was the best (and it should be said that others have also tried) :)

Anyway, if you are willing to share your experiences as a mystic, it will actually involve Nappy and his folk. They are of this world. And this also, "Most of the knowledge that you receive can not be put into words." Nappy and his world want words and also their job is to prove to everybody that "looking" is a waste of time. So if you are actually having a mystic experience :) welcome to All Forums.net., and my good bud Nappy and his folk! If the Holy Spirit actually speaks through you, Nappy and his folk might just be interesting :) fair enough?

tuck

Let say just for fun that you want to go out and talk to God.

What is going to be your first experience when you actually meet Him/Her?

Poetry and wisdom that you feel compelled to put into words, as a gift to others :)

The internet is full of these people and they are actually having the "mystic experience."

The next thing that is going to happen is, "God, how do I put this stuff into words?", and you will try.

And the the next thing that is going to happen after the above is, "I can't put that into words God!?"

Ok :) now as a mystic, once you reach a point where you can't put things into words, you are real :)

tuck

Nappy and his world want words and also their job is to prove to everybody that "looking" is a waste of time.
Once you become Buddha, it is no longer important to be Buddha.

Once you become Buddha, it is no longer important to be Buddha.

Damn Nappy :) that was unexpected :) to cool!

Based on my experience that quote is extremely right! "You are in this world but not of it." "And we are but actors on a stage."

You have an interesting part Nappy :) and I get to stumble around as your anti-christ :)

Well my "Gold Medal Member" Nappy, it is turning out that we have to go to the Cayman Islands to find out who owns this message board. Not that it actually matters. Sparky is still my god here, at least until I am thumped by his god :) ! Hey if you count Borghunter as a "sir" which I do, :) All Forums has a triune god :) at least so far :) I love a plot that thickens!

tuck

Once you become Buddha, it is no longer important to be Buddha.Or rather, once you become Buddha you realize that it never was important to be Buddha.:cool:

Damn Nappy :) that was unexpected :) to cool!

Based on my experience that quote is extremely right! "You are in this world but not of it." "And we are but actors on a stage."

You have an interesting part Nappy :) and I get to stumble around as your anti-christ :)

Well my "Gold Medal Member" Nappy, it is turning out that we have to go to the Cayman Islands to find out who owns this message board. Not that it actually matters. Sparky is still my god here, at least until I am thumped by his god :) ! Hey if you count Borghunter as a "sir" which I do, :) All Forums has a triune god :) at least so far :) I love a plot that thickens!

tuck
Allforums has three administrators, Borghunter, VilePagan, and Sparky. DrewM owns the board, and is also an admin, but he's never around and almost never gets involved with the running of the place. JereJereBinks is a moderator, but only on the Games section.

Allforums has three administrators, Borghunter, VilePagan, and Sparky. DrewM owns the board, and is also an admin, but he's never around and almost never gets involved with the running of the place. JereJereBinks is a moderator, but only on the Games section.

Nappy, what am I going to do with you my beloved friend:) !

Sheesh!

I run all kinds of twisty realities and you just get me the information. Will anyway Sparky is still my "god" and BorgHunter is still "Sir". So I guess I am now waiting for "VilePagan" to come to me out of left field :) Anyway I think I have met "VilePagan" several times in the past and he is cool! God, I love getting these messageboard "gods" sorted out. After all everybody, we are all playing in a world that they have created and do maintain.

And this also, Nappy you are a "god" in/on this messageboard, with zip for licence :) which by the way, is the trickest "god" of all :) ! You have to play on your "feet" :) all you got is words :) ! Sometimes words are fun if you have got a mind. There has got to be a "Nappy" joke (or maybe a tucky joke) here somewhere :) ?

tuck (y) :) I hope I haven't burned up all my smilies!

God only has permission to play in "our" lives, if we give Him that permission.

Lets say that you are actually evil, can the person sitting next to you give God permission to play in your life? That part I love :) !

Satan will have to destroy every person on this planet that gives God permission to play in their life, Or God has permission to play :) He just does you know :)

Even Lot and his fam. got hauled out of Sodom and Gomorrah and he wasn't actually that close to God. But Abraham was :)

To be a true mystic you have got to give God permission to play in your life. Only God can teach you about God. And God does this through His Holy Spirit.

The "Key" is not "Power". The "Key" is willingness. Power solves itself. "Seek first the "Kindom of the Father" and the "Righteousness of the Father" and all these things will be given on to you." "Your Father in Heaven knows what you need."

Rev. tuck

Lets move to a part of the mystic experience that is very hard to explain and actually can't be explained in a complete sense, "That there is a part of you that you don't know about that is really really big!"

Waking this part of you up is basically what the mystic experience is all about. The are two ways of doing this, 1) By yourself; and 2) With God's help.

Yogis have a concept called, "Self Relization." Simply put, "You are God going back to God. There is not any you." Period. These yogis maintain that mystics like me have not gone far enough to understand their concept. They also claim that Jesus didn't go far enough either (and I have not gone as far as Jesus went).

The difference between what the Self Relization yogis claim and what mystics like me and some yogis claim, is the concept of the "Family of God." To the Self Relization folks there is no "Family of God." What Jesus was teaching is that we can become a true part of the "Family of God", if we would like to. And that our helper with this quest is The Holy Spirit.

Rev. tuck

Why is there conflict between you being "God" and you joining the "Family of God?"

As a person exploring the mystic experience, you are/will going to/come up against, "I am God!" The funny part about this is that you are just looking at "yourself." You are not actually at the point of looking at, "God."

No human mind can actually look at themselves as they really are and not think that they are "God." Because what you really are, is just way to big!

All that poetry/wisdom stuff that is beng written and all that poetry/wisdom stuff that has been written, is just them looking at themselves. God is a whole nether ball of wax.

And we might just kick this out here just for fun, "God teaches you by sharing His experience with you." At that point in time you may also get confused that you are God. You are not, you are just experiencing His experience.

We have two realities that are confusing, 1) Actually having a look at your true self; and 2) You and God sharing the same experience as a learning experience, because only God can teach you about "God."

It should also be said that the human mind that we are all issued as self aware personalities, relative to this world, does not handle either of these experiences well. It just doesn't.

Ah yes, the "bumps" in the road and what to expect.

Rev. tuck

What is the "Nitty Gritty" of the mystic experience?

"You can not be indwelt by God and not become as God is."

You can though, "explore the indwelt by God experience", and change your mind at anytime. "God, I don't want to play anymore!", and God will go away.

Here is the catch, "A sin against the Holy Spirit can never be forgiven!"

What does this mean? If you take the information that you have recieved from the Holy Spirit and just walk off, all is well. If you take that information that you have learned from the Holy Spirit and use it to separate people from God, then all is not well. Forever! And only truely evil would do this.

Rev. tuck

What I am going to post over time in this topic is going to cause a "DonnyBrooke". There are over twenty-million pages on todays internet that will disagree with what I will say :)

Just because you post in this topic, does not mean that you are "evil". You only become "evil", if "I" call you a "Troll" :) I love that part :) !

Start a topic guys (and Coberst) and you can call them "Trolls" :) !

Anyone who disagrees with me is actually a "Troll", I just know that they are :) !

:)

Yes, I am having too much fun! tuck

Are you heavily sedated Tuck?

Are you heavily sedated Tuck?

:) I just trying to create some conflict. If I was sedated in any sense of the word, I wouldn't hang out on All Forums. I would just go take a nap :)

By the way Imp, nobody in their right mind hangs out here. One does have to question you sanity Imp :) !

tuck :)

:) I just trying to create some conflict. If I was sedated in any sense of the word, I wouldn't hang out on All Forums. I would just go take a nap :)

By the way Imp, nobody in their right mind hangs out here. One does have to question you sanity Imp :) !

tuck :)
All the voices in my head tell me I'm ok. Keep up the conflict, I do like reading it. :)

All the voices in my head tell me I'm ok. Keep up the conflict, I do like reading it. :)

Thank you Imp, I actually do look forward to interacting with you.

After all, I can be me and you can be you and everybody else just shakes their head and walks off :) Way too cool!

Love you! :)

tuck

Some things about my mystic experience. I had my first Christian mystic experience when I was 5 years old. And I have been a true Christian mystic ever since that time. 53 years now. I became a Christian yogi mystic at around 24 years old. And have been a Christian yogi mystic 33 years now.

Six years ago I was stepped into permanent Samadhi/oneness with God by Shiva and Yogananda's Babaji. At this point in time I am studing the Physical Immortality meditations and some other things that are difficult to put into words. At this point in time I have thousands and thousands of hours of meditative prayer experience.

The question that always seem to come up is wether or not there is any relationship between what Jesus was teaching and what Hindu yogis are teaching today. Thirty-three years and alot of hours later I can honestly say, "Sort of, but not quite." What Jesus was teaching starts you where the Hindu yogis quit teaching. I call it Yoga II for lack of any other term. Yoga II starts when God truly becomes your teacher. Because only God can teach you about God. And there is this, "Most of Yoga I and its offshoots, with the exception of Hatha Yoga, are a waste of time. You have to forget most of it and start over when God begins to teach you."

Rev. tuck

This needs to be said, "My job here on this topic/thread is to share with you that you can be best "Buds" with God." He/She/It can and wants to be the best friend that you have ever had in this world.

And I am practicing here on All forums.net. All forums has the best of the worst and the best of the best. And actually everybody in between. After over half of a century of study, I am here because Drew and his crew so far say that I can be. And we will let the future take care of itself.

Getting to know God as a friend in not easy for everybody. Actually it was not easy for me. And the truth is that I am and have always been abit of a "Pill". So the speak.

There are some tricks to getting to know God, if you are abit of a "Pill". Which is why old mystics help young mystics. We will explore this over time (God willing) on this thread/topic. What you do with the information is up to you and I do not really care. How you choose to challenge me about this information, I don't really care either. It is all about the learning experience. And this is just practice.

Rev. tuck

What is the Mystic Experience?

The Mystic Experience is what you experience as you expand your consciousness. The Mystic experience is about expanding your consciousness. There is a higher source of consciousness out there that you can attach yourself to that will help you with this attachment. The result of this attachment is that you become something way bigger than what you were before.

Generally the first difficulty that one experiences as a begiinning mystic is one's own mind. One's own mind is generally happy being unexpanded and does not want to become expanded. So as a beginning mystic your first hurdle that you will have to pass through will be your own mind. Some have called this experience "The dark night of the soul.", "The void", 23 psalm's calls it, "The valley of death." All these things are true about this first part of the experience. Which is why few ever get very far.

Why is one's own mind a problem with expanding one's consciousness?

The simple answer is, "Fear of the Unknown." And all change is considered by our minds, the "Unknown", The Mystic Experience is about "Change". Actually some very radical change. If one is really going to be a mystic, then one really needs to understand this concept. Otherwise one is going to find themselves in over their head in an experience that no one in their right mind would ever want to experience.

The folks that get through this first part of the mystic experience the easiest are the folks that have a deep loving faith in God. Most of us don't have this deep loving faith in God. So for most of us this first part of the mystic experience can be rough and should be understood that it can be rough. There is no sugar coating it. "A leap of faith.", as the Good Book says.

Otherwise it is just an leap into the unknown and you basically just hang on. That is the way I did it. And it was "ouch!" and is still sometimes "ouch!", six years later. I call it, "about to make a cognitive leap." And one does have a tendency to become unstable durring this precongitive leap time. Eventually you get use to it and things are not quite so bad. And you do develope faith in God. Everytime you take a leap into the "Unknown", He seems to catch you. And then all of a sudden you understand a whole bunch of new stuff. That part is fun.

Rev. tuck

My vote goes to SMW.

I'll second that. At least Frogger, Trav, Prae, and others make sound arguments and their path of discussion follows some sort of logic. SMW on the other hand....no so much.

I'll second that. At least Frogger, Trav, Prae, and others make sound arguments and their path of discussion follows some sort of logic. SMW on the other hand....no so much.

Who knew :)

tuck