http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity

afiner, I dub thee: the Fred Phelps of atheists.

As an FYI, afinertouch, threads created should not consist of only a single link. Don't be such a lazy ass, and at least quote the article so we have some idea as to what it contains before clicking the link. If you can't be arsed to do that, just write a little blurb of a few sentences describing it. But since this whole "writing" thing seems to be new to you, why don't you just stick to commenting for awhile before taking the big leap and start posting threads?

afiner, I dub thee: the Fred Phelps of atheists.
i second that.:thumbs:

Oh brother!

Annnnnnnnd, you're done.

Annnnnnnnd, you're done. And your an ass!

afiner, I dub thee: the Fred Phelps of atheists. And why in the world would you say that? It does not even make any sense!

and the motion carries-any other new business?

I did laundry today, first time in years. My neighbors thank me.

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity

Excellent!

i took the truck thru a car wash yesterday and those f'ers scratched it:rant:

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity
The most BS I've read in a while.

The most BS I've read in a while. Care to elaborate on what you thought was BS about it?

This thread delivers.

I couldnt get the link to work.

Wow, I looked up freethoughtpedia and it was oddly strange. Its like evangelicals with nothing to evangelize so now they're selling crapy titles and advertising them like big macs.
Afinertouch were you once Christian and now you're gay?
oddly strange is more then strange, its odd and strange.

link doesn't work

And why in the world would you say that? It does not even make any sense!

OldPhart rarely makes sense.

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OldPhart rarely makes sense.

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To you.... I'm sure I don't make sense. I take that as a complement.

To an person that doesn't have his head up his ass... I oft make more sense than you.

Why not put up a poll, oh wise one. Ask others (and not your magic mirror) who is the "fairest of them all"?

A) OLDPHART B) dharmabum

A) OLDPHART B) dharmabum

I am, just look at my avatar. YoOo0oo will seeeeee.

[QUOTE=Inviolable]I am, just look at my avatar. YoOo0oo will seee!! Your a crazy pussy?

[QUOTE=Inviolable]I am, just look at my avatar. YoOo0oo will seee!! Your a crazy pussy?

Yes, one that says, Obey Me!

definitely B

The link worked last time I tried it.

Hey it works now, man if those people were racist it wouldnt show.

Okay, thank you for your information. Now what??? WTF do i do now???

You see, people like you write and say these narrow ignorant things, or better yet, megaphone other people's ignorance, but have no other alternatives. I'm not a Christian, but I see no use in these "facts," if they do not have alternatives.

Okay, thank you for your information. Now what??? WTF do i do now???
Continue your attacks on other peoples belief systems?

You see, people like you write and say these narrow ignorant things, or better yet, megaphone other people's ignorance, but have no other alternatives. I'm not a Christian, but I see no use in these "facts," if they do not have alternatives.
I don't like english peas.... so what? What "fact" will prove or disprove that?

I don't go about, willy nilly, trying to dissuade others to the "evil" of english peas. If you like them fine, if you don't... well, we have that in common I suppose.

It seems some atheists spend as much time and energy trying to disprove Christians (and other believers), as some of the zealous fundamentalist followers do trying to prove everyone who don't believe are wrong.

If it was "proveable" then it wouldn't be called "faith".

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity

Excellent thread, aft5.

Prediction; none of the superstitionists herabouts will be able to (and likely will not even try to) mount any credible refutation of a single point of the 20 reasons.

I particularly liked the segment that pointed out--

""How deep dishonesty runs in Christianity can be gauged by one of the most popular Christian arguments for belief in God: Pascal’s wager. This "wager" holds that it’s safer to "believe" in God (as if belief were volitional!) than not to believe, because God might exist, and if it does, it will save "believers" and condemn nonbelievers to hell after death. This is an appeal to pure cowardice. It has absolutely nothing to do with the search for truth. Instead, it’s an appeal to abandon honesty and intellectual integrity, and to pretend that lip service is the same thing as actual belief.""

Excellent thread, aft5.

Prediction; none of the superstitionists herabouts will be able to (and likely will not even try to) mount any credible refutation of a single point of the 20 reasons.

I particularly liked the segment that pointed out--

""How deep dishonesty runs in Christianity can be gauged by one of the most popular Christian arguments for belief in God: Pascal’s wager. This "wager" holds that it’s safer to "believe" in God (as if belief were volitional!) than not to believe, because God might exist, and if it does, it will save "believers" and condemn nonbelievers to hell after death. This is an appeal to pure cowardice. It has absolutely nothing to do with the search for truth. Instead, it’s an appeal to abandon honesty and intellectual integrity, and to pretend that lip service is the same thing as actual belief."" That is certainly a good argument! Of course not for xtian apologist!

Okay, thank you for your information. Now what??? WTF do i do now???

You see, people like you write and say these narrow ignorant things, or better yet, megaphone other people's ignorance, but have no other alternatives. I'm not a Christian, but I see no use in these "facts," if they do not have alternatives. Alternatives, well those are up to you if you want them so bad! And what about the 20 statements do you consider narrow ignorant things?

The thing I find ignorant about many of these, is that these are all points that can be made for all mono-religions.

Christianity is based on fear- one can make the example that morality itself, right and wrong, is based on the fear of consequence.
The 2nd reason goes without saying, is ridiculous, how many F'in kids you know that sit in their room scared that God will strike them because they did wrong. This is the 21st century, most adults don't believe that God will strike thee upon where he stands anymore.
5 is ridiculous, because aren't the Jews considered the chosen people, hence the reason they don't go around sending missionaries to gain believers. Also, the Koran states the same things stated in 5. The infidels, the non-believers will pay for their mis-deeds.
7 makes sense, but its members who picket funerals of AIDs victims, those are merely ignorant peoples. Since the AIDs came after the Bible, should go without saying, then how can they extract their protest of AIDs through the Bible. For those who picket are ignorant beings who don't understand that people get AIDs through birth.

Look I, like you, can go on for countless arguments, which you will refute and so on and so on. The biggest problem I have with your post and the article comes from the disrespectful method you used of portraying your ideas. I know life isn't a fukin tea party, but debating in the form of disrespect will get you the responds you received. The article quotes "Nietzsche," in relation to its point of why Christianity is egocentric, but Nietzsche also said, what I consider to be one of the most important philosophical arguments in my life, its all perspective, perspective, perspective.

The part where the article writes Christianity sanctions slavery, people either forget or don't know that the slave trade didn't consist of white men prancing with guns capturing Africans. African leaders enslaved Africans, just as nearly every society, especially that of Greece, had enslaved its citizens.
The African slave trade was conducted as a means of business for both African leaders and the new slave owners.

The thing I find ignorant about many of these, is that these are all points that can be made for all mono-religions.

The fact that other religions also have reasons why they should be abandoned does nothing to refute any of the 20 points.


Christianity is based on fear- one can make the example that morality itself, right and wrong, is based on the fear of consequence.

You keep going back to --"Well, other beliefs do it too!!".

That does nothing to refute any of the 20 points.


The 2nd reason goes without saying, is ridiculous, how many F'in kids you know that sit in their room scared that God will strike them because they did wrong.

This does nothing to dispell the fact that Christianity is rooted in and instills in its adherants the fear of death, fear of the devil and fear of hell.

This is the 21st century, most adults don't believe that God will strike thee upon where he stands anymore.

Ok. But in noting that, you aren't refuting any of the points made at http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity


5 is ridiculous, because aren't the Jews considered the chosen people, hence the reason they don't go around sending missionaries to gain believers.

You ignore the fact that Christians call themselves "God’s people," "the chosen people," "the elect," while labeling nonbelievers "heathens" and "infidels". This sets up a have/have-not division of humanity in which the Xtians are, in their view, the only "good" people while all others are evil sinners bound for Hell.


Also, the Koran states the same things stated in 5.

Simply noting that --"Well, other religions do it too!" -- does nothing to refute what the author of the 20 points is saying about Xtianity.


7 makes sense, but its members who picket funerals of AIDs victims, those are merely ignorant peoples.

True.

IOW, they're Christians. Superstitionists.


The biggest problem I have with your post and the article comes from the disrespectful method you used of portraying your ideas.

You have not refuted anything said at the link.

And those mind-numbed superstitionists who would worship a monstous entity like the god of the Bible, who orders infants slaughtered, are undeserving of the respect of rational, sane people.


The part where the article writes Christianity sanctions slavery, people either forget or don't know that the slave trade didn't consist of white men prancing with guns capturing Africans. The African slave trade was conducted as a means of business for both African leaders and the new slave owners.

Continually repeating --"Well, others do it/did it too!" -- does nothing to refute the facts laid out about Christianity by the author of the 20 points.

The thing I find ignorant about many of these, is that these are all points that can be made for all mono-religions.

Christianity is based on fear- one can make the example that morality itself, right and wrong, is based on the fear of consequence.
The 2nd reason goes without saying, is ridiculous, how many F'in kids you know that sit in their room scared that God will strike them because they did wrong. This is the 21st century, most adults don't believe that God will strike thee upon where he stands anymore.
5 is ridiculous, because aren't the Jews considered the chosen people, hence the reason they don't go around sending missionaries to gain believers. Also, the Koran states the same things stated in 5. The infidels, the non-believers will pay for their mis-deeds.
7 makes sense, but its members who picket funerals of AIDs victims, those are merely ignorant peoples. Since the AIDs came after the Bible, should go without saying, then how can they extract their protest of AIDs through the Bible. For those who picket are ignorant beings who don't understand that people get AIDs through birth.

Look I, like you, can go on for countless arguments, which you will refute and so on and so on. The biggest problem I have with your post and the article comes from the disrespectful method you used of portraying your ideas. I know life isn't a fukin tea party, but debating in the form of disrespect will get you the responds you received. The article quotes "Nietzsche," in relation to its point of why Christianity is egocentric, but Nietzsche also said, what I consider to be one of the most important philosophical arguments in my life, its all perspective, perspective, perspective.

The part where the article writes Christianity sanctions slavery, people either forget or don't know that the slave trade didn't consist of white men prancing with guns capturing Africans. African leaders enslaved Africans, just as nearly every society, especially that of Greece, had enslaved its citizens.
The African slave trade was conducted as a means of business for both African leaders and the new slave owners. Listen I could really care less if you think my posting style is offensive. I agree with the 20 reasons and that's it. The thread was about christianity so if you want to say something about another religion have at it. I'm not stopping you but don't tell me one of the reasons is ignorant because it does not say anything about other religions. And what does white guys prancing around with guns capturing Africans have to do with what the bible says about slavery? Nothing. If you don't agree with one of the 20 reasons that is fine but a personal attack on me does nothing. I am still going to post what I post so deal with it or don't read my threads if you don't like my posting style.

You ignore the fact that Christians call themselves "God’s people," "the chosen people," "the elect," while labeling nonbelievers "heathens" and "infidels".

The only people I have heard using those terms to describe themselves are the Jews, and Islamics are the only ones I know of who call people "infidels", but Christians do label others "Heathens".


This sets up a have/have-not division of humanity in which the Xtians are, in their view, the only "good" people while all others are evil sinners bound for Hell.

There is defiantly that fundamentalist sect within Christianity, the "Left Behinders" who pray for the "rapture" to come because they sincerely believe that they are the only "good" people on the planet. Tim Lehay lays it all out in his books, they are the only people who go to "Heaven" and everyone else is left on earth to suffer and deal with hoards of scorpions and other nasties.

In his books, all the Jews are killed or converted at the beginning of the rapture.

Most religions have their fundamentalists but the largest religions have the most visible ones.

Wow this thread is hard to follow.........
Not sure what the hell people are trying or not trying to do.
20 reasons to abandon Christianity;;;;

Well no link or back ass thinking is going to change anyone.
Bring a valid point and view then try.
Religion is one of those topics that their are no winners or loser's.
It is your beliefs and your view. Does it make you wrong to have a point different from others NO...that is religion.

Listen I could really care less if you think my posting style is offensive. I agree with the 20 reasons and that's it. The thread was about christianity so if you want to say something about another religion have at it. I'm not stopping you but don't tell me one of the reasons is ignorant because it does not say anything about other religions. And what does white guys prancing around with guns capturing Africans have to do with what the bible says about slavery? Nothing. If you don't agree with one of the 20 reasons that is fine but a personal attack on me does nothing. I am still going to post what I post so deal with it or don't read my threads if you don't like my posting style.

15. Christianity sanctions slavery.
The African slave trade was almost entirely conducted by Christians. They transported their victims to the New World in slave ships with names such as "Mercy" and "Jesus," where they were bought by Christians, both Catholic and Protestant. Organized Christianity was not silent on this horror: it actively encouraged it and engaged in it. From the friars who enslaved Native Americans in the Southwest and Mexico to the Protestant preachers who defended slavery from the pulpit in Virginia, the Carolinas, and Georgia, the record of Christianity as regards slavery is quite shameful. While many abolitionists were Christians, they were a very small group, well hated by most of their fellow Christians.

Again, slavery was common in almost every single culture in the world at the time and well before, the article continually discusses slavery as being conducted by Christians. My point is so what if Christianity endorsed slavery and diminished democratic thinking, their isn't one word in the bible that discusses liberty in the context as we believe it, meaning freedom for all. The reason I say so what is because slavery and un-democratic laws>(the democratic part of my argument comes from the article where "Christianity breeds authoritarianism.") have been going on well before Christianity.

You know what, I'll look like the "puss-y" here and apologize for my calling this article ignorant and you as well, because the man obviously took a lot of time to render all these facts and incorporate them in his article.

FreeThinker, are you stating that all religions, not only Christianity, share or have many other reasons for its abandonment. You state many times that Christians are "Superstitionists," do all religious people fall under the same category?
Oh, and you make a great argument that nothing in the article can be refuted, and thats because the entire Bible itself is Purely about faith, just as all religion. I believe no one can refute these statements because of that, these are not held up as objective and universal truths. I was merely arguing for the sake of arguing, truthfully speaking, but also because I am trying to remain as objective as possible for the sake of being more understanding of the insanity of the world. Pascal's wager is a great argument, logically speaking, it makes complete sense, but I as well don't believe in religious stories and beliefs, because I find it hard to believe that somethings (prophets and messengers) happened during different time periods, but it all happened in and around the same place.
One more thing, from your posts, you seem like an atheist. Yes?

One more thing, from your posts, you seem like an atheist. Yes?

FT doesnt believe in anything except truthout's 5973 article archive from moveon.org or what dharma says.. (and one day Dharma is going to turn on him watch... DB isnt fucking around anymore)

1. Christianity is based on fear.
Fear? Yes, some people have used fear to try to advance Christianity. That's a failure of man not Christianity. A lot of our actions are conditioned by fear, fear of getting caught, fear of losing, fear of failing ... whatever.
But, Christianity also teaches that with love you need not fear.

2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
Yes, again a failure of people not Christianity.

3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
The paragraph merely emphasis's that professing to be a Christian, when you aren't, is dishonest. I doubt that "patriarchal God of Christianity" would approve.

4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
This section is just plain hyperbole and says nothing of meaning.

5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
So, the writer believes some Christians show arrogance. That's true of many organizations. However, unlike the arrogance exhibited by some elite organizations, Christianity welcomes everyone.

6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
Amusing actually. In some sections the article uses the differences in Christian beliefs to make a point. In this section, all Christian sects are tarred withe same brush.

7. Christianity is cruel.
See comments on section 6.

8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
Even the article acknowledges that only Christian fundamentalists presently hold such thinking.

9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex
Yet Christian churches are marrying divorced persons and accepting homosexuals.

ENOUGH!

I am getting bored commenting on this post. It continuously takes bits of data from different sources, classifies them all as representative of all Christianity and thus condemns Christianity as a whole.

1. Christianity is based on fear.
Fear? Yes, some people have used fear to try to advance Christianity. That's a failure of man not Christianity. A lot of our actions are conditioned by fear, fear of getting caught, fear of losing, fear of failing ... whatever.
But, Christianity also teaches that with love you need not fear.

2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
Yes, again a failure of people not Christianity.

3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
The paragraph merely emphasis's that professing to be a Christian, when you aren't, is dishonest. I doubt that "patriarchal God of Christianity" would approve.

4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
This section is just plain hyperbole and says nothing of meaning.

5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
So, the writer believes some Christians show arrogance. That's true of many organizations. However, unlike the arrogance exhibited by some elite organizations, Christianity welcomes everyone.

6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
Amusing actually. In some sections the article uses the differences in Christian beliefs to make a point. In this section, all Christian sects are tarred withe same brush.

7. Christianity is cruel.
See comments on section 6.

8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
Even the article acknowledges that only Christian fundamentalists presently hold such thinking.

9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex
Yet Christian churches are marrying divorced persons and accepting homosexuals.

ENOUGH!

I am getting bored commenting on this post. It continuously takes bits of data from different sources, classifies them all as representative of all Christianity and thus condemns Christianity as a whole. typical apologist dribble!

typical apologist dribble!

You tell 'em, afredphelpstouch5!

You tell 'em, afredphelpstouch5! Are you retarded or did you just forget to take your medication?

typical apologist dribble!


Well that's a comprehensive rebuttal. :rolleyes:

Are you retarded or did you just forget to take your medication?

Would it be better to say "typical atheist dribble"?

Since that was your response to someone that made the effort to respond to your post.... excuse me, your link.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6990/poster21518995jc4.jpg

typical apologist dribble!Could any of these "reasons" be countered in any way without your viewing it as "typical apologist dribble?"

Are you retarded or did you just forget to take your medication?


You dont have an argument for him so you call him retarded?

You dont have an argument for him so you call him retarded? I would have called him worse then that if he refered to me as being like Fred Phelps. He is a digusting excuse for a human being! Him and his family. Anyone that would picket a funeral of someone that died of aids is crazy and a horrible person. Fred Phelps is a douchebag! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps I was glad to read he was disbarred!

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/20_Reasons_to_abandon_Christianity

and again Afinertouch (5 :) ) runs genius! I hate that boy! :)

so now that we have had an emotional moment :) I think that this topic/thread is going to be fun :) !

And Gold Medal Nappy is even here :) this is just way to cool!

In this topic we get to meet the "Boys!" (Oh ya, and probably the "Girls" :) )

I would claim to love you (again) AfinerTouch, but that would be totally contrary to anything that could possiblily be construed as constructive :)

"Tag", my e-mail :) "Oh God! There is no mercy :) !"

tuck :)

FreeThinker, are you stating that all religions, not only Christianity, share or have many other reasons for its abandonment.

No. I am not saying *all*, because i do not know the tenets of all the thousands of religions and countless "gods" that mankind has invented.

But some of them, yes.

(side note; don't you find it fascinating that --excluding Christianity-- the Christians of this world can look at ALL the thousands of religions that have ever existed, and at ALL the myriad gods that have ever been worshipped, and with no hesitation whatsoever, they will tell you that all of them were false. To a Christian, every religion, other than Christianity, is bullshit. Utterly false and unbelievable. Impossible. Could not be true. To a Christian, every god, other than the one in the Bible, is imaginary. Utterly false and non-existant. Impossible. Could not have existed. (And they are correct.) But that one religion --the one that just happens to be the one that they believe and follow-- ......why!, it's all true. 100%. No question about it!)

You state many times that Christians are "Superstitionists," do all religious people fall under the same category?

Yes, if they believe in the supernatural or miracles or other such nonsense.

Oh, and you make a great argument that nothing in the article can be refuted, and thats because the entire Bible itself is Purely about faith, just as all religion.

IF the relgion being talked about was valid, then the things the author of the 20 points is saying could be refuted.

One more thing, from your posts, you seem like an atheist. Yes?

Yes.

Contents [hide]
1 1. Christianity is based on fear.
2 2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
3 3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
4 4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
5 5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
6 6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
7 7. Christianity is cruel.
8 8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
9 9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex.
10 10. Christianity produces sexual misery.
11 11. Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality.
12 12. Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils.
13 13. Christianity depreciates the natural world.
14 14. Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization.
15 15. Christianity sanctions slavery.
16 16. Christianity is misogynistic.
17 17. Christianity is homophobic.
18 18. The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings.
19 19. The Bible, Christianity’s basic text, is riddled with contradictions.
20 20. Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions.

In case nobody has actually quoted what we are dealing with, the above is what we are dealing with :)

And :) they are right :) God but I hate Afinertouch (5 :) ) Oh and Nappy too :) I just know that I hate Nappy :) Please don't ask me why :) I just know that I never will be able to be honest with just about anybody :) I might have to be with Sal and DanF, but other than that, it is every Man for themself :)

tuck

tuck :)

In case nobody has actually quoted what we are dealing with, the above is what we are dealing with :)

And :) they are right :) God but I hate Afinertouch (5 :) ) Oh and Nappy too :) I just know that I hate Nappy :) Please don't ask me why :) I just know that I never will be able to be honest with just about anybody :) I might have to be with Sal and DanF, but other than that, it is every Man for themself :)

tuck

tuck :)

dude what happened to you???? You just went off the deep end all of a sudden...

No. I am not saying *all*, because i do not know the tenets of all the thousands of religions and countless "gods" that mankind has invented.

But some of them, yes.

(side note; don't you find it fascinating that --excluding Christianity-- the Christians of this world can look at ALL the thousands of religions that have ever existed, and at ALL the myriad gods that have ever been worshipped, and with no hesitation whatsoever, they will tell you that all of them were false. To a Christian, every religion, other than Christianity, is bullshit. Utterly false and unbelievable. Impossible. Could not be true. To a Christian, every god, other than the one in the Bible, is imaginary. Utterly false and non-existant. Impossible. Could not have existed. (And they are correct.) But that one religion --the one that just happens to be the one that they believe and follow-- ......why!, it's all true. 100%. No question about it!)



Yes, if they believe in the supernatural or miracles or other such nonsense.



IF the relgion being talked about was valid, then the things the author of the 20 points is saying could be refuted.



Yes.

Free, you are up to your butt is stuff :)

Are we going to re "fruit" the author? Even if we are willing to accept the Author as right? It is not that the Author is wrong! Because the author is right! That is Afinetouch's genius. The problem is that Satan is running rampant in Christianity. John looks at Gold Medal Nappy and :) 's

I don't know guys but AfinerTouch is a gift to this messageboard and I hate to admit it (after all that boy is a handfull :) )!

tuck :) hankering down to thinking mode :) !

I love this topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude what happened to you???? You just went off the deep end all of a sudden...

Hi LiquidFork :) Thank you for being gentle! I love your screen name, everytime I pick up a fork I think of you and wonder how I am going to eat off of it :) !

LiquidFork, I am Always off the deep end :) My quest is, "How do I lure others into jumping off into my end of the pool :) ?" And there is this, "If they did, one may have to question their sanity." Which is why Sal and DanF approach me carefully :)

Anyway LiquidFork, I love your screen name!

tuck

typical apologist dribble!
Btw, gentle help (I am a poor speller and often mistype...): The correct word is drivel, not dribble.:cool:

"How do I lure others into jumping off into my end of the pool :) ?" Which is why Sal and DanF approach me carefully :)

DF in my opinion has been in the deep end ofthe pool for sometime.. LOL.. Ducky isnt far behind her...

The problem is that Satan is running rampant in Christianity. John looks at Gold Medal Nappy and :) 's
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7483/methumbxb3.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7483/methumbxb3.jpg

Aw, what a cute little devil.

DF in my opinion has been in the deep end ofthe pool for sometime.. LOL.. Ducky isnt far behind her...

Dan is a guy... And you can just think of Dan, tuck and I as a trinity... so to speak. :D I personally have been nuts since birth. Knowing so, keeps me sane.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7483/methumbxb3.jpgThat's not Satan, that's Moses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses#Horned_Moses)!

I love this topic! As much as I hate to admit it, AfinerTouch has to be considered a "gift" to this messageboard. He is a Genuis at asking the "hard" questions. :) If you want to be a Christian around him :) By God the Holy Spirit better speak through you :) or your are going to be in over you head.

The thing about the "deep end" guys, is that if you can swim :) it is not deep :) and the water is fine.

I am inclined to say that Nappy is in the wading pool along with his buds, but your "Nappy picture" Nappy, was/is creative and way too much fun!

It is like Coberst, he is swimming in the "deep end", and if you can't swim, things don't make sense.

And then we have Afinertouch who says, "Why swim if you can play in the wading pool :) "

Somewhere along the line the people in the "wading pool" and the "swimmers" are going to play separately. It is built into the system.

The only Fly in the ointment is "Nappy". He is so damn big that he is going to be wading in the swimming part of the pool :) Argg!

tuck

Contents [hide]
1 1. Christianity is based on fear.
2 2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
3 3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
4 4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
5 5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
6 6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
7 7. Christianity is cruel.
8 8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
9 9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex.
10 10. Christianity produces sexual misery.
11 11. Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality.
12 12. Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils.
13 13. Christianity depreciates the natural world.
14 14. Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization.
15 15. Christianity sanctions slavery.
16 16. Christianity is misogynistic.
17 17. Christianity is homophobic.
18 18. The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings.
19 19. The Bible, Christianity’s basic text, is riddled with contradictions.
20 20. Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions.

The problem with the above is that it is actually true, "sort of :) "

There are actually two kinds of Christians, "The real ones and the non real ones". What Afinertouch has created with this topic, "is Satan helping Satan". :)

None of the above quoted reasons fit real Christians :) it doesn't you know and never did. Jesus said, "You work miracles in my name and I know you not."

Rev. tuck

An "Easter Egg" that plays music like your cellphone does :)

Imagine a park filled with small children hunting Easter Eggs and every Easter Egg is playing a tune :) If we can just keep Nappy out of the park :) life will be good :) ! But at the sametime Nappy is fun! :)

"Until you are as a child, you shall not see the Kingdom of Heaven! :) "

tuck

typical apologist dribble!

Now that's an interesting and informative way to support your position.:confused:

Now that's an interesting and informative way to support your position.:confused:

OldTimer your post record says that you are a Newbe, relatively speaking. To Cool :) ! Major wecome to All Forums.net! The feel in the "force" says that you have wisdom (based on experience :) I love that part). And that you will kick my butt if you think that I am out of line! :) Lets start here, "I don't mind :) !" I may wiggle abit :) But I do respect you. And again wecome.

tuck