Sometime ago I reported the disappearence of 4 yo Madeline McCann in Portugal.Madeline her brother and sister were left alone in they're hotel room while they're parents went to dinner about 100 yards away.On they're return Madeline was gone and theres been no sight sign or trace of her since.That was over 100 days ago.
Her parents started a massive campaign to find her,supported by all the major British newspapers,they toured southern Europe,even having an audience with the pope,still nothing.
This week,with the Portugese public seeming to turn on them,things have moved on considerablly,this is a major news story across Europe at present.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6989960.stm

Isn't it amazing when of all the missing / murdered folks in the world that the media will choose one, seemingly at random to sensationalize? Rather like that young lady who went missing in Aruba a year or 2 ago. The media just would not let it go.

I'm not assigning blame or taking any sides, just making an observation.

Sometime ago I reported the disappearence of 4 yo Madeline McCann in Portugal.Madeline her brother and sister were left alone in they're hotel room while they're parents went to dinner about 100 yards away.On they're return Madeline was gone and theres been no sight sign or trace of her since.That was over 100 days ago.
Her parents started a massive campaign to find her,supported by all the major British newspapers,they toured southern Europe,even having an audience with the pope,still nothing.
This week,with the Portugese public seeming to turn on them,things have moved on considerablly,this is a major news story across Europe at present.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6989960.stm


Your right - and isn't it interesting how they have quickly gone back home now since they have been named suspects. They had been in Portugal since day 1 of the disappearrance of this poor little girl.

You didnt need to report it, it's one of the few things going on in the Old World that actually makes it over here.

Right,wasnt aware that it had made it stateside,anyway,es is correct in what he says,one picked out,hundreds of kids go missng in Europe everyday.
If Madelines parents were poor,unemployed and from some shithole down East London,it wouldnt have got a mention.

Gerry McCann,Madelines father runs his own blog and makes an entry everyday.

http://www.findmadeleine.com/

I remember when all the American hippies were trekking around Europe, & the Middle East (for "$5 a day"). Scads went missing and you couldn't buy any news coverage.

At the time of the poor girl's disappearance, I thought the parents did a lousy job of keeping an eye on their kids--claiming to have left a four year old in charge of 2 two-year-olds.

Now I consider them much worse than bad parents. The evidence, at this point, seems overwhelming against them--the little girl's blood and fluids found in a rental car the parents rented twenty-five days after her disappearance.

Good job by the Portugal police in building a strong case against this shameless couple.

I agree, Ren. Leaving a four year old alone would've been bad enough. Wonder if this is a common practice in European countries? It would be considered a crime (child abandonment) in the U.S.

The blood in rental car is baffling. 25 days after she disappeared???

I don't think it's strange at all that the story makes world-wide headlines. Lots of people disappear or are murdered every day in the world, but not lots of parents appear to be involved. IMHO, that makes this story news.

Remember Jon Benet Ramsey?

At the time she disappeared the whole thing was,who leaves they're kids alone in a hotel,the Portugese media have houndd them about this since day one,quite rightly so.

Originally posted by es347fan
Isn't it amazing when of all the missing / murdered folks in the world that the media will choose one, seemingly at random to sensationalize? Rather like that young lady who went missing in Aruba a year or 2 ago. The media just would not let it go.
I definitely agree with this. Although, on what seems to me a frequent occasion, the media picks a story that has some sort of unique twist or situation to it and reports it to somewhat serve the people a reminder that this sort of thing is real and it happens more often than you think. I wouldn't call a random but sporadic update of the story a bad thing...but we just don't need to be hearing about the same thing over and over again...even though it's a sad event and I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I have found that every single one of these over-reported cases concerns a white, wealthy family.

See Ramsey case for overload of specualtion and ad nauseum reportage on a simple crime in which practically the entire population of the US knew who was responsible--either the mother or the father--whoever was dumb enough to write that idiotic, grade-Z -movie type ransom note.

Also the Natalie Holloway case, or the Scott Peterson case. At the time of Lacy Peterson's disappearance, there was another, very similar case, in California, of a young, poor Hispanic woman, pregnant, who had disappeared and her boyfriend considered the leading suspect. Zero media coverage. Maybe they thought her face or her boyfriend's face wasn't pretty enough to sell many papers.

Can somebody tell what the end result was in Aruba

I don't think it's strange at all that the story makes world-wide headlines. Lots of people disappear or are murdered every day in the world, but not lots of parents appear to be involved.

That's another reason for the over-reportage, besides being white and wealthy--some bizarre twist to the case.

Can somebody tell what the end result was in Aruba


Well, the last I heard, they were searching another area of Aruba--but found nothing.
It's my belief the poor young girl was dumped in the ocean--the world's biggest graveyard.

Can somebody tell what the end result was in Aruba
Nothing new has been reported about the missing girl in Aruba, Paul.

But I'm sure Nappy will find her.

;)
SMW

Latest from Wednesday 12 September:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6991181.stm

Thanx SMW.

OK Any theories for whatsgoing on in Portugal.Anyone.

Interesting article paul, thanks.

from the article:

He said: "Gerry and Kate's view is that if they take money from the fund it might be that 90% of people who made donations aren't bothered about it. But if 10% of people are bothered about it, they don't want to upset them. They want to take the controversy out of the situation."

That was speaking about the fund that people donated to , to help find Madeline.

i should think that ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the poeple who donated wouldn't want their money going to their defense, such as it is. Lord, they've a nerve.

Thanx SMW.

OK Any theories for whatsgoing on in Portugal.Anyone.

My son was wondering how big an insurance policy Madeline had?

Oddly enough Ren,I thought this thread would appeal to you haha.
OK My theory is:
I think the parents may have given the kids sleepers before they went out that fateful night,but for some reason Madeleine may have reacted badly,and when they returned home she was dead,in they're panic they hid her and shouted 'abduction',after which,events took over,thats my 2 cents worth.

My son was wondering how big an insurance policy Madeline had?Idont know,tho I dont think its a money thing,both these guys are doctors.

Oddly enough Ren,I thought this thread would appeal to you haha.
OK My theory is:
I think the parents may have given the kids sleepers before they went out that fateful night,but for some reason Madeleine may have reacted badly,and when they returned home she was dead,in they're panic they hid her and shouted 'abduction',after which,events took over,thats my 2 cents worth.

That makes sense to me too.

Either that, or maybe they really did leave Madeline alone with the 2 little ones for a bit--then came back and discovered some accident, like, she fell and hit her head.

I heard there was blood found in the hotel room--is that right?
Hard to know what to believe in some papers, lol.

Then, like you say, panic time. But at least they didn't try to fool the public and police with a ridiculous ransom note, like the Ramseys, but they DID bilk them out of $$, which in a way, is even worse.

Unlike my son, I don't think they PLANNED to kill her.

Oddly enough Ren,I thought this thread would appeal to you haha.
OK My theory is:
I think the parents may have given the kids sleepers before they went out that fateful night,but for some reason Madeleine may have reacted badly,and when they returned home she was dead,in they're panic they hid her and shouted 'abduction',after which,events took over,thats my 2 cents worth.
Interesting theory, Paul. You could be right. Guess nobody will be able to know for sure until/unless they find her body.

Re the girl vanishing in Aruba... it's really a fairly small DESERT island with nothing but sand & divi-divi trees (unless you count the palm trees planted around the hotels). A few caves, but nothing too elaborate there. I think Ren's theory is right... she was probably thrown into the ocean. The North Shore of Aruba is very wild and untamed with high cliffs and very rough water. It would be easy to get rid of a body there. The South Shore is tranquil and clear as bath water... as well as being the only populated area of the island.

Guess we'll never know what happened to the Aruba girl.

Yeah the girl in Aruba,I hope she found peace,belss her.
Madeleine.
From word go there was a real comedy of errors by the Portugese Police,the room in which she disappeared wasnt closed off for forensics,and,tho I may be wrong,another couple were rented the room after the McCanns,losing vital evidence.
The border with Spain and the airports were not checked for suspects.
All in all it took the Authorities a couple of weeks to get on board.

There was a neighbour of the hotel brought in for questioning,another UK citizen,tho he's sort of fell out of the picture lately.

Yeah the girl in Aruba,I hope she found peace,belss her.
Madeleine.
From word go there was a real comedy of errors by the Portugese Police,the room in which she disappeared wasnt closed off for forensics,and,tho I may be wrong,another couple were rented the room after the McCanns,losing vital evidence.
The border with Spain and the airports were not checked for suspects.
All in all it took the Authorities a couple of weeks to get on board.

There was a neighbour of the hotel brought in for questioning,another UK citizen,tho he's sort of fell out of the picture lately.

Didn't know that about the hotel room, or not sealing off the borders.
the McCanns will use this to build their defense.--if it comes to trial.

But they just can't get around the DNA found in their very own rental car. That is DAMNING evidence and enough to hang them both on--unless they want to make the claim that the deceased 4 year old girl planted her own blood in a car that appeared 25 days after she died, a car that she drove around Portugal while looking at the pretty sights.

Knowing some defense lawyers, I'm sure that's exactly what they'll say!

Thats IF they done it,right.
Maybe we should have an internet jury for this one hehe.
Unfortunatly all the indications,and my instincts tell me the child is dead.

LOL, it's one of our favorite pastimes, that internet jury thing.....you should have seen the Crime Library message boards over the Peterson case--there were about 10, 000 posts a day!

Yeah,thats what I love about living in the modern world,'guilty until proved innocent', haha.

Hang 'em!!

Hang them ALL!!!!!!!!

Oddly enough Ren,I thought this thread would appeal to you haha.
OK My theory is:
I think the parents may have given the kids sleepers before they went out that fateful night,but for some reason Madeleine may have reacted badly,and when they returned home she was dead,in they're panic they hid her and shouted 'abduction',after which,events took over,thats my 2 cents worth.


Could be... , who knows what was going on with these people. Two nights before she disappeared an upstairs neighbor heard the little girl screaming for daddy for about 45 minutes, and she reported it to the manager. There is a reason the police think the mother killed her.

This is my theory, for what it's worth. I think the girl was already dead before they went to dinner. Then they had the bright scheme, "let's go out to dinner and leave them here alone" , then they can blame it on an abduction. Who knows what this poor child has suffered before she died.

Could be... , who knows what was going on with these people. Two nights before she disappeared an upstairs neighbor heard the little girl screaming for daddy for about 45 minutes, and she reported it to the manager. There is a reason the police think the mother killed her.

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Wow, sassy, I hadn't heard that...do you remember where you read/heard that?

PS You're right, just because people are doctors, lawyers, city councilmen, mayors, Senators, etc etc, does not mean that they cannot and do not kill.

Never heard that one b4 myself.

Another theory I had was that Madeleine wasnt his kid,and maybe the mum wanted to get rid of her.

Wow, sassy, I hadn't heard that...do you remember where you read/heard that?

PS You're right, just because people are doctors, lawyers, city councilmen, mayors, Senators, etc etc, does not mean that they cannot and do not kill.

Yes, - heard it on headline news on cnn last night- Who knows what this 'mother' is all about?? I'm sure there are more little tidbits we don't know of yet.

Very good - have you ever read Agatha Christie too? LOL
If they did do this - and it's looking suspicious - why do they ever think they will get away with it. I guess they think they can be another O.J.

I have always thought the parents were involved......After seeing them WAY TOO CALM on tv,i knew something wasnt right!

Heres an update of events:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/21/nmaddy121.xml

Shifting stories on this investigation. Latest I heard, from telegraph. co. UK--( a good newspaper with good coverage) is that the Portugal police are investigating the adjoining hotel room of the McCanns.

Here's more from the same newspaper:

"Even if the blood and traces gathered in the car or in the apartment were confirmed to correspond 100 per cent to the little girl's DNA, that wouldn't prove anything. . . just that the body had been transferred in the vehicle." "


It appears the police are backtracking a bit--IOW, are they now saying, besides that there's no way to prove the girl was killed, but that also the girl rode around frequently in the car's wheelwell?

What is going on here?

You can prove murder with no body--it's been done before!

I buy the UK paper the Sun on a Saturday and heres they're front page story:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2007421064,00.html

It appears that the Portugese cops are struggleing to build a case.
On the way home an hour ago,Gerry McCann's brother was on the radio saying they're gonna spend $60,000 on ads in Portugese and Spanish newspapers on Sunday appealing for information about they're daughter.
Very slick couple these two.

The blood found in the hotel room has never been confirmed as being Madeline's. Initial forensic tests showed that it most likely came from a man from the northeast European sub-group. Further tests are being conducted in the UK to confirm this.

The traces of DNA found in the boot of that car was also never confirmed as being Madeline's blood. The only articles I've seen that say it is blood have been tabloids, and we all know how truthful they can be. :rolleyes: Quotes from the police investigating this in Portugal said that they found DNA in the boot that may belong to Madeline, but it was never confirmed as being blood.

Also, something that hasn't been mentioned enough is that the car that was hired was used to transport the family's belongings, which included Madeline's clothing and toys. If the DNA traces did belong to Madeline, it is far more likely that they had come from her clothes and/or toys. Forensic scientists have found that the transfer of DNA, from object to object, can take place weeks, months, and even years later in certain cases. After 25 days, the body would be decomposing (if she had been killed, accidental or otherwise) and far more than some small traces of DNA would have been found in that boot. Unfortunately for the investigators, the method they are using to detect minute traces of DNA does not show how the DNA was deposited.

The problem with this case is that there are too many conflicting reports on what is happening. Some reports are saying that hair was found in the boot. Some are saying blood. Some are saying DNA (which could come from any part of her body). Some are saying bodily fluids (which again, could mean many things), and some are even now saying that it was fluids from a decomposing body. Yet more articles are claiming that the DNA traces are too badly contaminated to be even close to accurate.

Other forensic scientists are questioning the accuracy of the evidence. Many articles are reporting that 'spots of blood' were found in the boot. If Madeline was killed that night, then how did 'spots of blood' end up in the car 25 days later? The blood in her body would have dried up by then, and it would be impossible for it to be transferred as spots of blood. It would have been fragments of dried blood. This is just one example of how tabloids mislead or even outright lie to get more sales and/or publicity from the public.

John Barrett, a former Scotland Yard dog handler, has said that the reports of sniffer dogs detecting a 'death smell' on Madeline's mother's bible and clothing could not be possible. Those items were brought in far too late, and that scent lasts no longer than a month.

So which do we believe? All these articles have one thing in common. They say that this information comes from 'sources' in Portugal. So who are these sources? The police in Portugal have been constantly saying that they can't release any information on the investigation because it is against the law in Portugal. So why would they be going to the tabloids with this information?

The only thing we know for sure is that the tabloids, newspapers, etc. are making money from this. They are publishing what they think will generate the most sales. And it is working.

Yes its all speculation at this time,the thing about the British tabloid press is that for weeks they were supporting the McCann family,then changed course and started printing articles like above,this is very unusual for newspapers to do.I agree too many ifs and buts,however I think this case is coming to a critical stage.
The thing about someone disappearing is,they nearly always leave a trace,but as regards Madeleine,absolutly nothing.

I've read that it was a good deal of body hair or hunks of hair found in the wheelwell--too much for a mere transfer.

PS. Good post , issabee.
However, can't say I blame the tabloids or other media outlets for dumping on this exceedingly odd couple. As a cop once said, most crimes are exactly what they seem.

Their behavior has been strange from the get-go--leaving a 4 year old and two 2yar olds alone in an unlocked room after saying it was too much trouble or expense to get a babysitter.

There is a foto doing the rounds today,in fact its front page in every British tabloid,is this Maddie McCann,what you think,hard to tell.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007440681,00.html

The girl in the photo kinda looks like Maddie, but so do about 15 million other kids.

Maddie is dead. Odd that this photo of "Maddie" surfaces within a few weeks of her parents being named as suspects.

Yeah I know.
Reports coming out of the UK this afternoon suggest it is NOT Madeleine.

I agree with you,everything tells me she is dead,now.
WHO DUN IT.

IT'S NOT HER


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1391/nomadbyelinees468x590zb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Fresh blow for McCanns as picture of 'Madeleine' is Moroccan farmer's daughter

I agree with you,everything tells me she is dead,now.
WHO DUN IT.

I'm sure her grieving parents will blame either Jack the R or George W next.
If Mummy and Pops weren't loaded, they'd be hanged by now.

George W.
He gets blamed for everything else.

Back to square one.

Good foto sassy,
whats the word on the street down your way.

I'm sure her grieving parents will blame either Jack the R or George W next.
If Mummy and Pops weren't loaded, they'd be hanged by now.


Yep - They are s-o-o-o-o going to get away with it.

Sassy,were did you get that foto from,it hasnt hit tv here yet.

Good foto sassy,
whats the word on the street down your way.

Yeah - it's amazing to me that this woman - that "BROKE" this story - managed to take such a fuzzy picture and then report it looked like this Maddie. She really thought it might clear the parents didn't she?

Here's another photo taken by another person - managed to get a clear shot didn't they?

URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9977/2ndnotmaddyg468x425xf7.jpg[/URL]

Yeah it is thanks,picture just broke on tv here.
I believe the McCann's have spent a fortune on PR this last few weeks,
this case is going nowhere,I dont think any of them have a clue what happened to the child,the attention seems to focus on the parents more than what became of Madeleine.

So guys how did they dispose of the body and when? They accidentally OD her. I heard that theory on CNN too and I like it. But how do they proceed from there? Once they report her missing, they are basically under the scrutiny of the press and public.

Solve this for me please as my SO and I have been disagreeing on the parents guilt from the beginning. I don't have kids so I am not a good litmus test but if my f'ing cat went missing I would be having a meltdown. This mother did not meltdown. But then I know we are all different and perhaps she would handle herself in a different manner but still I don't get that. So my guy is arguing saying fine but how did they transport the body. I can't come up with a good one for that. How do they then get it onto a ship to dispose of it?

So guys how did they dispose of the body and when? They accidentally OD her. I heard that theory on CNN too and I like it. But how do they proceed from there? Once they report her missing, they are basically under the scrutiny of the press and public.

Solve this for me please as my SO and I have been disagreeing on the parents guilt from the beginning. I don't have kids so I am not a good litmus test but if my f'ing cat went missing I would be having a meltdown. This mother did not meltdown. But then I know we are all different and perhaps she would handle herself in a different manner but still I don't get that. So my guy is arguing saying fine but how did they transport the body. I can't come up with a good one for that. How do they then get it onto a ship to dispose of it?

It's a good question Sal - my theory, for what it's worth, was they o.d. her first and took the body away before they even went to dinner with the friends - at that time they were not under any scrutiny. I think they may been helped by some other people, chilling as that seems.

There was a lot of attention given to a rental car hired 25 days after the disappearence,I think it will come into play again at some stage.

That said,the Portugese cops were like the Keystone cops from the start.

But Paul, you have to give the Portuguese cops a break here. This kind of crime is virtually unknown in that area. Plus they were likely intimidated. Here they have a beautiful looking missing child and two foreign doctors. Who'd a thunk it. Except statistically they say, in cases such as this 1 out of 14 times, a parent did it. Those are high odds.

Sassy I like your pre dinner body disposal... sorry guys don't mean to sound so irreverant... she is beautiful baby... but then why the blood in the car 25 days later?

I dont see why we have to give the cops a break Sal,they are supposed to be a professional outfit.

Theres another nagging thing here,most people in Europe have heard stories of very secretive paedo rings operating in the country for years.

I dont see why we have to give the cops a break Sal,they are supposed to be a professional outfit.

Theres another nagging thing here,most people in Europe have heard stories of very secretive paedo rings operating in the country for years.

What are paedo rings. ?????????

This sounds similar to the some speculation done on that girl in Aruba. Some are wondering if she was being sex slaved. I believe they even hired some bounty hunter type people. These guys (the bounty hunters) that they interviewed are pretty seamy themselves. You have to be to do that kind of undercover thing. Their stories were pretty gruesome. I had no idea the sex slave trade was so prolific. For rich men one night ......... ten thousand. And there is a big call for it.

paedo rings....are what we called gangs of adults who steal kids for sexual abuse,very secretive slimey bastards.
If they did get the kid,I hope she is dead.

Okay so it is the same thing... yeah, death would be preferable for either of them rather than...

Am I the only one getting damn sick and tired of this case?

The girl is dead. When I think about the millions of bucks spent , and all the other countless missing or abused kids out there, with nothing, it irritates me no end. Those other kids could benefit from one-one=thousandth of the money spent on this non-case.

Whats wrong?
Are you indexing today again,cool it.

I'm tired of looking at her parents' phoney-looking distressed faces, and listening to their pious platitudes.
If they cared so much, why did they leave her alone to begin with. If I see the mom clutching the bunny one more time, I might just kill somebody--like them.

I understand what your saying tho, 70,000 children go missing in Europe every year.

The Mc Cann's latest tactic is most shameless of all.

They are now citicizing and belitting the Portuguese Police force and their entire system of justice. Barbarians all, according to loving Mummy and Popsie and their shameless tabloid toadies.

This reminds me of the brouhaha in the English press over the

Louise Woodward case--you may recall she was an English nanny working for an American couple, charged and convicted of a second-degree killing of a 2 year old American boy--the boy she babysat when she wasn't out drinking and carousing.

The boy sustained a wound equivalent to a two-story fall. She herself admitted on the witness stand she was a "little rough" with the poor tot.

The English press had a field day ridiculing our American press and system of justice who had dared even accuse, much less try, the dainty loving English girl. Parades, rallies were held to help her defense fund. The outcry was so great that our judge was forced to sentence her to time served.

Poor put- upon
Louise is now attending law school, courtesy of her idiotic, xenophobic supporters. Wonder how many of them hire her out as a babysitter? Probably a few who are getting sick and tired of their kids, I'd say.

the English press makes me want to barf.

Yeah I remember her,and your right,the British press did charge to her defence.
My only criticism of the Portugese Police is that they didnt preserve the crimescene for forensics.

But Paul, you have to give the Portuguese cops a break here. This kind of crime is virtually unknown in that area. Plus they were likely intimidated. Here they have a beautiful looking missing child and two foreign doctors. Who'd a thunk it. Except statistically they say, in cases such as this 1 out of 14 times, a parent did it. Those are high odds.

Sassy I like your pre dinner body disposal... sorry guys don't mean to sound so irreverant... she is beautiful baby... but then why the blood in the car 25 days later?

Yes Sal, those are high odds.

And to answer your question, the police believe the body was being transported again before it was placed somewhere permanently - they think it was disposed of at sea much later on.

Today I believe they think she was buried in Spain,what a fucking case.

Today I believe they think she was buried in Spain,what a fucking case.

Oh really ?- I need to check on that.

Your a bit of a Sherlock sas,go get em.

Your a bit of a Sherlock sas,go get em.


Yeah sure - I do love Sherlock and Agatha Christie books and movies though, always have. They think now she did it while hubby was playing tennis before dinner.

Yeah sure - I do love Sherlock and Agatha Christie books and movies though, always have. They think now she did it while hubby was playing tennis before dinner.Well lets see,tell me if I leave anything out here.

Maddie goes missing.
Police havnt a clue.
Parents go on tour of Europe.
Police havnt a clue.
British Press back parents.
British Press accuse Parents of killing her.
British Press back Parents.
Police havnt a clue.
British press accuse Parents of killing her.

Well lets see,tell me if I leave anything out here.

Maddie goes missing.
Police havnt a clue.
Parents go on tour of Europe.
Police havnt a clue.
British Press back parents.
British Press accuse Parents of killing her.
British Press back Parents.
Police havnt a clue.
British press accuse Parents of killing her.

a-w-w-w now - I think they have a FEW clues

I really really hope Im wrong,and you are right.

I really really hope Im wrong,and you are right.

well for some reason the police think she did it Paul -they could have focused on the father - but, they are focusing on her. Whether they can prove it is another matter. I'm glad portugese law says they can't give interviews to the press regarding this matter - or they face a 12 month jail sentence - 'cause they'd be on Barbara Walters right now.

Ya mean they havent been on 'Good Morning America' yet.

Oddly enough,I always thought from day one,it was him.
I figured that her gaunt complexion was worry and fear,
about the safety of her daughter.

Now I understand that it wasnt fear,it was guilt.

Ever since i saw them on TV being as calm as they were,i knew something wasnt right......

I think that the mother might actually be responsible for this sort of thing more often. Reminds me of Jonbenet... I'm sure it was her mom.

This week in the case seems to be staring off on a PR war between the Portuguese Prosecutors and the Parents,cant remember another case like this before.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007450534,00.html

from the article:

Mr Anjos said: "Four months after his daughter disappeared, during which time he was interviewed several times by the Judicial Police, he remembers that there was a man hiding in the apartment where his three children were sleeping, when he went to check they were okay.

IF this is true, if the father is really trying to say he feared there was an intruder present I would say this is a huge indicator of guilt and trying to cover it.

Maybe its me,but if I thought a man was hiding in my place waiting to prey on my kids,Id baseball bat him,without worrying about the consequence.

Maybe its me,but if I thought a man was hiding in my place waiting to prey on my kids,Id baseball bat him,without worrying about the consequence.
What? You wouldn't just leave for dinner? This is the most bizarre case and it gets stranger by the day.

If your kids were in danger you wouldn't need a bat, hands would do just fine.

Damn right.

Did you hear this week that this Mom said she is getting no sympathy because she doesn't have big boobs? :eek: Sheesh

Didnt hear that one,but I read in the paper that there definitely was a body in the boot of the car.
The case has lost the interest of everyone in Europe,therell never be a conviction in this case I feel.

Didnt hear that one,but I read in the paper that there definitely was a body in the boot of the car.
The case has lost the interest of everyone in Europe,therell never be a conviction in this case I feel.


You read there's proof there was a body in the boot and they are not going to press forward with a conviction? Aw, it must be nice to be rich and have connections ALL over the place.

I was in a shop buying cigarettes today,it was a paper headline I was reading.
Cant remember the paper,supose Im gonna have to find it now,ahhhhhhhh.

Did you hear this week that this Mom said she is getting no sympathy because she doesn't have big boobs? :eek: Sheesh

That's not quite what she said, Sassyrunner. She actually said she is not getting sympathy because being thin, good looking and having small breast she does not fit the average person's image of someone maternal, ie, a heavier person with more ample breast.

That's not quite what she said, Sassyrunner. She actually said she is not getting sympathy because being thin, good looking and having small breast she does not fit the average person's image of someone maternal, ie, a heavier person with more ample breast.

Ample as in bigger, sweet frog, but it still seems a strange comment for her to make.

Nah,cant find that paper,wasnt even drinking today either.

Madeline McCanns parents gave an interview to Spanish tv today.

I dont know if Im biased,but these people dont seem upset enough to me.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1289864,00.html

Madeline McCanns parents gave an interview to Spanish tv today.

I dont know if Im biased,but these people dont seem upset enough to me.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1289864,00.html

I've thought that from day one Paul -
So their kids aren't upset about Maddie.? - maybe 'cause their sedated.:rolleyes: Yeah, seems like crocodile tears to me too. And for some reason they are insisting she is alive and in Spain.

I read in an English tabloid this week that Mr McCann is considering going back to work shortly.

Ya know,I gotta be honest here.

If I were her father,I would live on the streets of Portugal,begging if I had to,the rest of my days if I had to,incase,even tho it wouldnt happen,she turned up.
I couldnt simply pack up and go home.

But thats just me I guess.

Thats what makes them look so suspicious (To me anyway)

News flash!!!

MADDIE IS DEAD.

No arrests forthcoming--parents too rich.

Even if it wasn't the parents, she's probably dead anyway. It's a matter of statistics.

I've thought that from day one Paul -
So their kids aren't upset about Maddie.? - maybe 'cause their sedated.:rolleyes: Yeah, seems like crocodile tears to me too. And for some reason they are insisting she is alive and in Spain.


I have a hard time believing parents on TV pleading for their children's return after that one chick drove her 2 babies into a river and let them drown. Then got on TV crying and begging for her children to be safe.

I would hope that they didn't do it because how anyone could hurt their own child..i dont know. But it happens WAY too often.

Even if it wasn't the parents, she's probably dead anyway. It's a matter of statistics.
Maybe youd like to share those stats DF.

and

Do you think that stats comprised say,in the US,would be viable for Europe,
just a thought.