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DarkFantasy96
10-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Maybe youd like to share those stats DF.

and

Do you think that stats comprised say,in the US,would be viable for Europe,
just a thought.
I don't have the statistics, but I have read that most kidnapped children who are gone for a long time are not found alive.

paulc
10-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Your right ofcourse,
I was just curious to know if US stats would measure up the same as Euro ones.

The child is gone.

sassyrunner
10-26-2007, 03:47 PM
I have a hard time believing parents on TV pleading for their children's return after that one chick drove her 2 babies into a river and let them drown. Then got on TV crying and begging for her children to be safe.

I would hope that they didn't do it because how anyone could hurt their own child..i dont know. But it happens WAY too often.

It IS chilling. It's really easy for 'em to cry isn't it, probably 'cause they're afraid they are going to get caught. Except, in this case the Spanish reporter that interviewed this 'Mom' on tv - reported she acted like she was crying but she saw nary a tear on her face.

Frogger
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
It is a sad commentary when so many people jump to the conclusion that the parents killed their child. I think they were extremely careless. I think they drugged the little girl so she would sleep, not an uncommon practice in Europe from what I've been told. I believe they bear some responsibility for the loss of their daughter but I don't believe they killed her.

paulc
10-26-2007, 04:50 PM
Never heard of parents drugging the kids before Frogger.
Were ya dig that one up.

That said,there were time I was tempted.

sassyrunner
10-26-2007, 05:50 PM
Never heard of parents drugging the kids before Frogger.
Were ya dig that one up.

That said,there were time I was tempted.


Don't do that in Ireland, eh? I'm sure it's not just in Europe, I'm sure some in America do it too. It is very careless, because it can cause death.

paulc
10-26-2007, 06:12 PM
Dont know if its done here or not,just never heard it.
Ive always found were couples are concerned,one always stays at home or gets a babysitter.
Tho what goes on behind peoples front doors isnt always what ya think.

I guess its not the sort of thing people brag about.

Frogger
10-27-2007, 05:50 AM
Never heard of parents drugging the kids before Frogger.
Were ya dig that one up.

That said,there were time I was tempted.

It was in one of the U.K. papers I read online. Can't remember which one.

rendova
10-27-2007, 06:20 AM
It is a sad commentary when so many people jump to the conclusion that the parents killed their child. I think they were extremely careless. I think they drugged the little girl so she would sleep, not an uncommon practice in Europe from what I've been told. I believe they bear some responsibility for the loss of their daughter but I don't believe they killed her.

Frogger, most of us wouldn't consider the parents suspects if the girl's DNA hadn't been found in the rental car the McCanns obtained 25 days after her disappearance. You have to admit, that is damning evidence.

Also, as in any criminal investigation, parents and other close family memebers are ALWAYS considered leading suspects--because mostly they are the ones responsible.

Quote DF:
I don't have the statistics, but I have read that most kidnapped children who are gone for a long time are not found alive.

DF, do you mean kidnapped children, or abducted children? These are 2 different types of crimes. In cases of abductions--that is, taken kids with no ransom demand, it's mostly a noncustodial parent responsible, and mostly the kids are found safe and alive eventually.
Genuine ransom- demand kidnappings have become exceedingly rare. It's a very difficult crime to pull off.

~Sal~
10-28-2007, 08:08 AM
It is a sad commentary when so many people jump to the conclusion that the parents killed their child. I think they were extremely careless. I think they drugged the little girl so she would sleep, not an uncommon practice in Europe from what I've been told. I believe they bear some responsibility for the loss of their daughter but I don't believe they killed her. I think it is a pathetic sad happening if they drugged their child and killed her and then pretended she was kidnapped. They bear TOTAL responsibility for that, they are two professionals. (Supposedly) they are experts with the human body. They bear TOTAL responsibility for misleading the police and the public. They bear total responsibility for all the money spent on trying to find a small child whose body they disposed of in some horrific clandestine way.

They bear TOTAL responsibility for so many people wishing to lynch them.

Had they come forward truthfully as caring, remorseful parents, devastated by what they had done, many would have embraced them and their pain. They would have had a tiny to chance to have some type of healing.

paulc
10-28-2007, 02:24 PM
You like saying
total responsibility
dont ya duck.

paulc
10-29-2007, 03:09 PM
Today on sky news:What a case.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1290652,00html

rendova
10-29-2007, 03:20 PM
Nice--using the money donated to help find Maddie to make their mortgage payments and pay for living expenses.

They're a lovely couple.
Lovely.

googs
10-31-2007, 12:36 AM
Is it true a new team was put under kidnapping because the parents didn't like how the investigation was going?

I'm not a parent. But who leaves their 4 year old child alone? I thought that was a little strange. My sister takes her kids everywhere or drops one of them off at my moms.

~Sal~
10-31-2007, 06:26 AM
You like saying
total responsibility
dont ya duck.
Pretty much donkey. :D

sassyrunner
10-31-2007, 04:40 PM
Is it true a new team was put under kidnapping because the parents didn't like how the investigation was going?

I'm not a parent. But who leaves their 4 year old child alone? I thought that was a little strange. My sister takes her kids everywhere or drops one of them off at my moms.

That's what got my back up- they said they "left their children ALONE and checked on them every 30 minutes "while they were also downing several bottles of wine of course at the restaurant. wow

A lot can happen in 30 seconds with a child.

paulc
11-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Today marks 6 months since the disappearance of Madeline McCann.

Today in the sun newspaper is has been claimed thru a leak the results of
DNA samples which were processed in the UK and have been forwarded to
Portugese Police.

Page 4 The Sun: ''Four year old Madeleine's body WAS in a car they hired
25 days after she vanished in Portugal'''.

Page 4 The Sun: ''Bodily fluids from the Renault Scenic appeared to have come from the youngsters CORPSE''.

Page 4 The Sun: ''BLOOD found in the family's rented Algarve apartment was
also hers''.

~Sal~
11-03-2007, 06:18 PM
Aha, here we go!

paulc
11-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Well,the paper,which I have beside me has a page 4 headline;

'McCanns are back in frame'.

But when I went to the online edition,its not mentioned!!!!

~Sal~
11-04-2007, 07:51 AM
Yeah I looked too, couldn't find anything. Do you think they released to press to fast?

paulc
11-04-2007, 01:14 PM
Dont know Sal,but I checked the 'news of the world',which is like a sunday edition of the sun,always another twist with this case.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0311_maddie.shtml

sassyrunner
11-06-2007, 03:54 PM
Dont know Sal,but I checked the 'news of the world',which is like a sunday edition of the sun,always another twist with this case.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0311_maddie.shtml

thanks Paul - the last I heard, last week, they ruled all those findings were contaminated.

paulc
11-06-2007, 03:59 PM
I know.

Yesterday I was having a coffee/smoke break reading that the parents were part of a swinger group in Portugal, this case twists and turns daily.

sassyrunner
11-06-2007, 04:12 PM
I know.

Yesterday I was having a coffee/smoke break reading that the parents were part of a swinger group in Portugal, this case twists and turns daily.

That does not surprise me in the least - the Portugese police are attacking the family and their publicity campaign today- on the "hunt for Madeline" - they say it has hindered their investigation and no one cares anymore about looking for her.