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truthout
09-11-2007, 04:15 PM
Ignoring the Other Victims of 9/11

By Marie Cocco
Truthdig.com

Washington - When the National Guard helicoptered her husband, Mark, to Staten Island to work as a wireless technician setting up a communications network for thousands of emergency workers who were descending upon Lower Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2001, Jeanmarie DeBiase did not know this would begin the unraveling.

She would not realize it until Jan. 8, 2006-her birthday-when, during a family celebration, Mark broke down in tears.

"He sat at my dining room table crying that there was something wrong, that he didn't want to die," DeBiase recalled in an interview from her home in Jackson, N.J. Her husband, who worked at the landfill where debris from the fallen World Trade Center was dumped, had suffered a cold for a few days-nothing serious, it seemed. He was a vigorous man of 41, an exercise aficionado who was so careful about his diet that his wife packed his lunch every day. Yet that night at dinner, he sobbed that he wanted to watch his young sons grow up, to play ball with them, to know his grandchildren.

The initial diagnosis was pneumonia, but Mark failed to respond to antibiotics; lung X-rays could not confirm any diagnosis at all. "There was so much stuff in his lungs I don't think they could pinpoint anything," Jeanmarie says. "They really didn't know how to treat it." Visits to the prestigious Deborah Heart and Lung Center did not bring hope. Mark DeBiase died on April 9, 2006, in Philadelphia, while awaiting a double lung transplant.

"A lot more illness and death is going to come out of this," says his widow, who is supporting her three sons on about $3,400 a month in Social Security survivors' benefits. Health insurance, still provided by Mark's employer, the wireless company Cingular, cost $64 a month during the first year after her husband's death. In May, the monthly premium rose to $394.

DeBiase considers herself fortunate-she has supportive family and friends, and access to health insurance. She has filed a worker's compensation claim under a New York state program for workers who were consistently exposed to health hazards in the days and months after the Twin Towers collapsed in a poisonous concoction of dust, burning fuel, chemicals and metals. The contents and lethality of the toxic stew still aren't entirely known.

Typically, employers fight the claims, lawyers say. And typically, a claim takes one to two years to wind through the bureaucracy.

The country says it will always remember 9/11. Few politicians miss the chance to appear at this or that commemorative service.

Perhaps it is true we have not forgotten those who died that day. But we have abandoned those who are dying now.

Thousands of construction workers, janitors, communications specialists, food-cart vendors and others who worked amid the noxious fumes for weeks or months-removing debris not only from Ground Zero but from the office buildings that still stood, reviving communications, feeding and providing aid to those who toiled-are sick with lung disease and all manner of rare cancers, according to various health officials. An expert panel created by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg concluded that as many as 410,000 people faced sufficient exposure to health hazards that they could become ill.

About 59 percent of those screened at a city center for patients suffering from World Trade Center-related illnesses are uninsured. The majority have incomes of less than $15,000 a year. Even at a screening center run by Mount Sinai Medical Center for "first responders"-an elite group among those who are turning up sick-an estimated 40 percent lack insurance.

New York politicians have persistently pursued more federal involvement and funding. The federal government has perennially rebuffed them.

Here is one measure: After federal health authorities involved in monitoring and treatment of World Trade Center emergency responders estimated they would need $283 million a year to run the program, President Bush's budget allocated $25 million.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., whose district encompasses Ground Zero, and other New York lawmakers used the sixth anniversary of the attack to introduce legislation to require health monitoring and care for all those who are sick from exposure to what may be the most serious environmental catastrophe in the nation's history. Yes, it would be an "entitlement." And yes, it would be costly-certainly more expensive than a ribbon of remembrance.

It would, at last, require the country to come to grips with the knowledge that the official toll of 2,750 from the World Trade Center attack isn't the final death count. It's only the first.

LiquidFork
09-11-2007, 07:36 PM
Leave it to the jackasses of the world to turn a day that should be held to preserve the memory of those lost six years ago to turn it into a chance to push an agenda. I would love just one day to walk into a starbucks or a diner and hear one of these types spouting off.

dharmabum
09-11-2007, 07:42 PM
Oh please. :rolleyes:

You have just as much of an agenda that you push.

LiquidFork
09-11-2007, 09:01 PM
Oh please. :rolleyes:

You have just as much of an agenda that you push.


no sir.... when it comes to the subject of 9/11 and all other tragic events i do not bring any agenda at all into it. I like the idea i can have a gun in my house. I like knowing if some punk kills my grandmother for her purse chances are he will be executed. I like knowing somewhere on capital hill a group of people are pushing to get people off of welfare and into the work force. I like knowing that hopefully one day on the books there will be a law that makes it unlawful to engage in irresponsible behavior and then kill a fetus as a result of a mistake from such behavior

Yes I do have strong beliefs and morals. I will defend my ideas of what is right and wrong with my last breath. I will speak against those who are trying to destroy this country with only negativity and no real logical solution to the worlds problems.

The difference between people like me and people like you is you will find any and every chance to push your views on people. You will desperately look for any opening. I on the other hand have the common sense to realize some subjects are just in poor taste to get into a pissing match over and would rather respect those who have suffered and continue to suffer

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BorgHunter
09-11-2007, 09:09 PM
While I agree with most of your post (except the death and the abortion parts), I found this to be deliciously ironic:
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Napsterbater
09-11-2007, 09:10 PM
Rofl!

dharmabum
09-11-2007, 09:36 PM
no sir.... when it comes to the subject of 9/11 and all other tragic events i do not bring any agenda at all into it.

Bullshit.


I like the idea i can have a gun in my house. I like knowing if some punk kills my grandmother for her purse chances are he will be executed. I like knowing somewhere on capital hill a group of people are pushing to get people off of welfare and into the work force. I like knowing that hopefully one day on the books there will be a law that makes it unlawful to engage in irresponsible behavior and then kill a fetus as a result of a mistake from such behavior

All parts of your agenda which you push at every possible chance... like just now, for instance. ( a thread about 9-11 by the way)


Yes I do have strong beliefs and morals. I will defend my ideas of what is right and wrong with my last breath. I will speak against those who are trying to destroy this country with only negativity and no real logical solution to the worlds problems.

And I do exactly the same thing but when I do it, you criticize me for doing it.

That is the real difference between you and I. I do not fault you for having or voicing your opinions. On the other hand, you criticize everyone who dares have an "agenda" different from yours.

:thumbs:
DB

truthout
09-11-2007, 10:02 PM
what agenda could there be, Liquid, other than wanting the best for those who suffered on 9/11???

Thousands of construction workers, janitors, communications specialists, food-cart vendors and others who worked amid the noxious fumes for weeks or months-removing debris not only from Ground Zero but from the office buildings that still stood, reviving communications, feeding and providing aid to those who toiled-are sick with lung disease and all manner of rare cancers, according to various health officials. An expert panel created by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg concluded that as many as 410,000 people faced sufficient exposure to health hazards that they could become ill.

About 59 percent of those screened at a city center for patients suffering from World Trade Center-related illnesses are uninsured. The majority have incomes of less than $15,000 a year. Even at a screening center run by Mount Sinai Medical Center for "first responders"-an elite group among those who are turning up sick-an estimated 40 percent lack insurance.

New York politicians have persistently pursued more federal involvement and funding. The federal government has perennially rebuffed them.

you have a problem with that agenda, liquid-brain?

Jester
09-11-2007, 10:36 PM
Leave it to the jackasses of the world to turn a day that should be held to preserve the memory of those lost six years ago to turn it into a chance to push an agenda. I would love just one day to walk into a starbucks or a diner and hear one of these types spouting off.This isn't the first time 9/11 has been used to push an agenda. Remember the Republican Convention of 2004?

Brooks
09-11-2007, 11:16 PM
Truthout, Unlike the rest of the country, the health of the first-responders is, and has been, a huge story in New York. Just as 9/11 has been and still is.

And Liquidfork is right. The only time some people bring up 9/11 is for criticisms, such as this thread, or to peddle a Bush / Cheney conspiracy.

LiquidFork
09-12-2007, 09:58 AM
what agenda could there be, Liquid, other than wanting the best for those who suffered on 9/11???

I couldnt agree with you more. But when you get up on the soap box to speak about it and the best thing you can do is blame the current administration for lack of a solid health care plan... that is just in poor taste.

I will never understand that on the heels of such a horrific event you still have probably yet in your life to blame the people actually responsible for that day. Sure.... spout your negativity and pointless hate 364 days out of the year....but how about for one day out of the year you actually shut your pie hole and mourn like the rest of us.



you have a problem with that agenda, liquid-brain?

See i come back here after close to two weeks and you want to pick a fight with me. Even go as far as name calling. I will admit i do like the "new" truthout who does more than simple C/P articles.. Hell all knows i even supported it. However if it is a nasty,drag out,offensive laden approach you want to start taking on here i will more than happy to oblige,and remember you asked for it.

I am all for spirited debate. I even have came to accept the bleeding heart antics of DB,the floating arguments of FT,and the overall nonsense of Sedan.. The way they are is the way they are. But if you simple want to get ugly,,,then i am most definitely your huckleberry.

dharmabum
09-12-2007, 10:12 AM
The only time some people bring up 9/11 is for criticisms, such as this thread, or to peddle a Bush / Cheney conspiracy.

Or to try and explain why we are occupying Iraq.

See Jester's post above yours. He made a good point that disproved your statement before you made it.