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truthout
09-07-2007, 01:10 PM
Bush's police suppress Sept. 15 press conference
Plus, read an AFP wire story and see the video
While the momentum for the Sept. 15 Peace/Impeachment demonstration grows, the Bush Administration is going to extraordinary lengths to suppress the mobilizing for this mass demonstration.
Less than 18 hours ago, National Park Service Police turned a September 15 Press Conference, held in front of the White House, into a chaotic scene. On the pretext that there was no permit for a three foot long folding table that the media placed their microphones on, the police intervened in the middle of the press conference to announce that it was an unpermitted activity. Three people were arrested and are still being held in jail. They include Adam Kokesh, an Iraq war veteran; Tina Richards of Grassroots America; and Ian Thompson an ANSWER Coalition organizer.
The Parks Police even rode a horse directly into the crowd of reporters and shocked onlookers. The National Parks Police is an agency in the Interior Department whose Secretary is a member of George W. Bush's cabinet. In recent weeks September 15 organizers have been fined more than $30,000 for putting up posters promoting the September 15 March on Washington.
We encourage ImpeachBush.org members to circulate this email and the important story from the AFP wire story that documents this outrageous assault against Free Speech rights by the Bush Administration. At the end of this email we are also enclosing a link to a video on YouTube that shows some part of the suppression of the September 15 press conference yesterday.
Bush and company want to prevent people from coming out for a mass action led by Iraq war veterans and their families that will expose his war propaganda as a lie. The Administration wants to suppress the growing movement for impeachment. This is a showdown of great magnitude.
Please make every effort to come to Washington DC on September 15. We will not be intimidated. Join the tens of thousands who are coming to Washington, DC on September 15. Buses, car caravans and vans are coming from more than 100 cities.
Go to www.impeachbush.org for more information.
Youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAfPgX7gs0
POLICE BREAK UP ANTI-WAR MEETING IN WASHINGTON
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Mounted police charged in to break up an outdoor press conference and demonstration against the Iraq war in Washington on Thursday, arresting three people, organizers and an AFP reporter said.
"The police suppressed the press conference. In the middle of the speeches, they grabbed the podium" erected in a park in front of the White House for the small gathering, Brian Becker, national organizer of the ANSWER anti-war coalition, told AFP.
"Then, mounted police charged the media present to disperse them," Becker said.
The charge caused a peaceful crowd of some 20 journalists and four or five protestors to scatter in terror, an AFP correspondent at the event in Lafayette Square said. No one appeared to have been hurt.
Three people -- Tina Richards, the mother of a marine who did two tours of duty in Iraq; Adam Kokesh, a leader of the Iraq Veterans Against the War group; and lawyer Ian Thompson, who is an organizer for ANSWER in Los Angeles -- were arrested, Becker said.
"A petition calling for the impeachment of President George W. Bush, allegedly carrying one million signatures and endorsed by former US attorney general Ramsey Clark, will also be submitted to officials during the week's activities."
The ANSWER coalition is trying to rally support for an anti-war demonstration in Washington that is due to take place on September 15.
Last month, the movement was threatened with a fine of at least 10,000 dollars unless it removed posters in the city announcing the September 15 march.
Washington city authorities have said the posters had to come down because they were stuck on with adhesive that did not meet city regulations.
"At our demonstration today we were showing the media that the paste we use conforms to the rules," Becker said.
"One of our activists was making a speech when the police barged in and grabbed the podium. At that point, Tina Richards started to put up a poster, so they arrested her and two others."
"This strategy of suppression has not worked. We expect many tens of thousands of people" in Washington for the September 15 anti-war demonstration, he said.
The march has been timed to coincide with the release of a report by the US military commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, and will be part of a week of protests led by veterans of the Iraq war.
A petition calling for the impeachment of President George W. Bush, allegedly carrying one million signatures and endorsed by former US attorney general Ramsey Clark, will also be submitted to officials during the week's activities, ANSWER has told AFP.
Brooks
09-07-2007, 05:20 PM
Less than 18 hours ago, National Park Service Police turned a September 15 Press Conference, held in front of the White House, into a chaotic scene.
Another one of your timely Republican scandal stories.
First Newt's adultery and now this.
What's your next thead going to be, "Impeach Nixon Now".
mikezila
09-07-2007, 05:26 PM
Impeach Lincoln now!
sedan
09-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Another one of your timely Republican scandal stories.
First Newt's adultery and now this.
What's your next thead going to be, "Impeach Nixon Now".The video is from yesterday.
OldPhart
09-07-2007, 05:48 PM
Douglas actually won, Lincoln stole the election!
Lincoln is against our right to secede! It's unconstitutional!
Lincoln has murdered over 618,000 people in his illegal war!
Jester
09-07-2007, 05:52 PM
I wonder... when's the last time a pro-war rally was broken up by the police? (I'm not holding my breath for an answer.)
mikezila
09-07-2007, 06:07 PM
I wonder... when's the last time a pro-war rally was broken up by the police? (I'm not holding my breath for an answer.)
there's been two that weren't counter protests...and they had their permits straight.:rolleyes:
truthout
09-07-2007, 09:37 PM
Jester, You make an excellent point. I wonder how many "pro-war" rallies actually were sponsored by the police? In fact, like the incidents in Miami-Dade by thugs sent in by the Republican party to stop the legal counting of the votes in the 2000 selection, the Bush secret police may be very involved in such "pro-war" rallies. If there was a draft protests would be massive, and nationwide today.
OldPhart
09-07-2007, 09:44 PM
/OldPhart rushes to the kitchen to construct a new tin-foil hat.
Freethinker
09-07-2007, 09:58 PM
I wonder how many "pro-war" rallies actually were sponsored by the police?
Good question.
In fact, like the incidents in Miami-Dade by thugs sent in by the Republican party to stop the legal counting of the votes in the 2000 selection, the Bush secret police may be very involved in such "pro-war" rallies.
Excellent point.
500lbguerilla
09-07-2007, 10:27 PM
How many people actually RTFA (read the fucking article)?
This wasn't a rally, it was a press conference to demostrate that police were illegally trying to suppress a protest by denying flyers.
Even if you buy the government line that what they were doing was illegal there was no reason to charge the conference. They could have easily been arrested and a tape of evidence confiscated.
I hate Pigs.
gmsisko1
09-08-2007, 05:29 AM
Truth,
You and truth do not mix. How many conservative rallies were sponsored by police?
The Republican party did not stop the vote counting, it was the supreme court. (at the time the supreme court was left leaning)
The liberal media came to the conclusion that Bush won in 2000.
What about the millitary votes that were not counted???
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html
Jester, You make an excellent point. I wonder how many "pro-war" rallies actually were sponsored by the police? In fact, like the incidents in Miami-Dade by thugs sent in by the Republican party to stop the legal counting of the votes in the 2000 selection, the Bush secret police may be very involved in such "pro-war" rallies. If there was a draft protests would be massive, and nationwide today.
gmsisko1
09-08-2007, 05:34 AM
Yep FT, Truth is right up your alley. The only problem is there is very little truth in truth's postings.
Good question.
Excellent point.
mikezila
09-08-2007, 05:44 AM
How many people actually RTFA (read the fucking article)?
This wasn't a rally, it was a press conference to demostrate that police were illegally trying to suppress a protest by denying flyers.
Even if you buy the government line that what they were doing was illegal there was no reason to charge the conference. They could have easily been arrested and a tape of evidence confiscated.
I hate Pigs.
apparently you didn't:rolleyes:
outdoor press conference and demonstration
it was in the first bloody sentence of our resident plagiarist's most recent unsourced cut & paste...of some off the wall "wire service". who the hell refers to them self in the third person outside of the Senate:confused:
Brooks
09-08-2007, 06:35 AM
The video is from yesterday.That makes a 9/15/06 story timely?
sedan
09-08-2007, 07:02 AM
That makes a 9/15/06 story timely?September 15 is the name of the planned demonstration.
The story and accompanying video are from 9/6/07.
Brooks
09-08-2007, 07:04 AM
September 15 is the name of the planned demonstration.
The story and accompanying video are from 9/6/07.Oh well.
Vilepagan
09-08-2007, 07:05 AM
That makes a 9/15/06 story timely?
What story are you talking about?
The AFP story he linked to was dated 9/6/07.
Brooks
09-08-2007, 07:12 AM
What story are you talking about?
The AFP story he linked to was dated 9/6/07.I think I addressed my embarassing error rather clearly when I said "Oh well".
What do you want, blood?
Vilepagan
09-08-2007, 07:20 AM
I think I addressed my embarassing error rather clearly when I said "Oh well".
What do you want, blood?
Sorry Brooks...if you check the time of my post, sedan's post, and your post, you'll see I was composing mine while you two were exchanging posts. If you think my post is just "rubbing it in" I'll happily remove it. ;)
Brooks
09-08-2007, 08:45 AM
No, I was joking.
dharmabum
09-08-2007, 09:20 AM
Well Truthout, what else is to be expected from an administration that thinks herding protesters into barb-wire cages is O.K. as long as he calls them an Orwellian name like "free-speech zones"?
What else can be expected from an administration that thinks he "needs" to be able to spy on whomever he chooses in secret, with no oversight?
What else can be expected from the party that hacked Democratic computers (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/) and spied on the Democrats for over a year and then refused to hold anyone accountable after the story broke?
truthout
09-09-2007, 02:39 AM
"Accountability" is for everyone else, not the Bush regime. They can do no wrong, they work for "God."
If only Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid had some backbone. We'd support them 1000%! Impeachment needs to be on the table. Impeachment hearings need to be going NOW. God help us if this doesn't happen.
Brooks
09-09-2007, 07:32 AM
"Accountability" is for everyone else, not the Bush regime. They can do no wrong, they work for "God."
Who are you quoting here?
dharmabum
09-09-2007, 08:36 AM
"Accountability" is for everyone else, not the Bush regime. They can do no wrong, they work for "God."
If only Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid had some backbone. We'd support them 1000%! Impeachment needs to be on the table. Impeachment hearings need to be going NOW. God help us if this doesn't happen.
I agree.
There is a plethora of evidence that they have committed high crimes and misdemeanors (http://www.amazon.com/United-States-George-Bush-al/dp/1583227563) as per the Constitution.
But certain hyper-partisans are dead set against holding them accountable no matter what they do and they have the conservative corporate media in their back pockets which makes it possible for them to deny any wrongdoing with the appearance of credibility.
Frogger
09-09-2007, 11:07 AM
sisko,
When it comes to truthout, the truth is out and the propaganda is in.
500lbguerilla
09-09-2007, 04:34 PM
outdoor press conference and demonstration yes they were demonstrating how the posters were put up.
I found video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAfPgX7gs0
The guy on a horse is a jackass who could have needlessly hurt someone. He should be put on parking meter duty.
The others were enforcing political suppression, something that is illegal and should be prosecuted.
mikezila
09-09-2007, 04:55 PM
yes they were demonstrating how the posters were put up.
I found video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAfPgX7gs0
The guy on a horse is a jackass who could have needlessly hurt someone. He should be put on parking meter duty.
The others were enforcing political suppression, something that is illegal and should be prosecuted.
they were enforcing the poster ban...of any sort. if they don't like it, and want to go ahead do, they can go to jail just like the those that want to drink and drive or smoke dope.
btw-that's what mounted police are for, breaking up crowds.
Freethinker
09-09-2007, 08:03 PM
they were enforcing the poster ban...of any sort.
But the video clearly shows the police loudly and insistently attempting to roust and disperse these people --who were totally non-violent and who were creating no disturbance of any sort-- before any poster was ever put up.
I do not know the particulars of the laws there in DeeCee, but one of the women repeatedly says that wheat paste is perfectly legal to use to erect posters. Also, the man at the end of the video notes that many posters are erected and have in the past been erected there on the streets and seldom if ever is there anything said by the police.
If a country where the mounted police are called in to ride their mounts directly into a crowd endangering the peacefully assembled people there on the sidewalks, and where other people who were peacefully assembling are arrested and handcuffed is the sort of country that you and your ilk honestly want to live in, the future of this nation (or perhaps I should say *of this police State*) is in serious trouble.
mikezila
09-09-2007, 08:36 PM
But the video clearly shows the police loudly and insistently attempting to roust and disperse these people --who were totally non-violent and who were creating no disturbance of any sort-- before any poster was ever put up.
I do not know the particulars of the laws there in DeeCee, but one of the women repeatedly says that wheat paste is perfectly legal to use to erect posters. Also, the man at the end of the video notes that many posters are erected and have in the past been erected there on the streets and seldom if ever is there anything said by the police.
If a country where the mounted police are called in to ride their mounts directly into a crowd endangering the peacefully assembled people there on the sidewalks, and where other people who were peacefully assembling are arrested and handcuffed is the sort of country that you and your ilk honestly want to live in, the future of this nation (or perhaps I should say *of this police State*) is in serious trouble.
the kind you country you think we live in would have sent police with batons a swinging.
gmsisko1
09-10-2007, 05:32 AM
YEP!!!
sisko,
When it comes to truthout, the truth is out and the propaganda is in.
Freethinker
09-10-2007, 08:23 AM
the kind you country you think we live in would have sent police with batons a swinging.
The police become much less prone to swinging batons when there are cameras rolling.
dharmabum
09-10-2007, 08:54 AM
yes they were demonstrating how the posters were put up.
I found video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAfPgX7gs0
The guy on a horse is a jackass who could have needlessly hurt someone. He should be put on parking meter duty.
The others were enforcing political suppression, something that is illegal and should be prosecuted.
That poster ban by itself seems a violation of free-speech.
Liberal
09-10-2007, 09:13 AM
the Bush secret police.[/B]
I would more accurate to call it "BUSH'S GESTAPO"
gmsisko1
09-11-2007, 05:24 AM
You are a sick, twisted person.
I would more accurate to call it "BUSH'S GESTAPO"
gmsisko1
09-11-2007, 05:26 AM
Truth out, please answer the questions in the quote below.
Truth,
You and truth do not mix. How many conservative rallies were sponsored by police?
The Republican party did not stop the vote counting, it was the supreme court. (at the time the supreme court was left leaning)
The liberal media came to the conclusion that Bush won in 2000.
What about the millitary votes that were not counted???
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html
Vilepagan
09-11-2007, 05:27 AM
You are a sick, twisted person.
Let's not post just insults, ok sisko?
mikezila
09-11-2007, 08:30 AM
Let's not post just insults, ok sisko?
what where the 2 previous posts?:confused:
mikezila
09-11-2007, 08:33 AM
The police become much less prone to swinging batons when there are cameras rolling.
you have absolutely no idea what crowd control is.:rolleyes:
mikezila
09-11-2007, 08:39 AM
That poster ban by itself seems a violation of free-speech.
you're confusing free with a right to steal from others.
you can put up a billboard (where zoning permits), but you can't post over other ppl's billboard's, staple signs to utilitly posts (yes, i know it's rarely enforced), or just put up yard signs in someone else's yard without their permission.
how would you feel if someone slapped a "nuke their ass, take the gas" bumper sticker on the back of your Kia?:lolhit:
Freethinker
09-11-2007, 08:46 AM
you have absolutely no idea what crowd control is.:rolleyes:
You have absolutely no idea the extent of my knowledge of 'crowd control'. Or anything else for that matter.
Besides which, there was no justification for "crowd control" involving mounted police when the people gathered there were causing NO disruption or disturbance.
I realize that the ConservaFascists do not like people putting up posters or voicing criticism of them, but there is a principle in this country associated with **peaceful assembly**. You should read about it sometime.
mikezila
09-11-2007, 08:53 AM
You have absolutely no idea the extent of my knowledge of 'crowd control'. Or anything else for that matter.
Besides which, there was no justification for "crowd control" involving mounted police when the people gathered there were causing NO disruption or disturbance.
I realize that the ConservaFascists do not like people putting up posters or voicing criticism of them, but there is a principle in this country associated with **peaceful assembly**. You should read about it sometime.
my 9 years as an MP tells me you are as clueless as you are fixated on GW as the source of all evil on planet earth.
mounted police are the the second step on the escalation of force, right behind an order to disperse. would you rather have chemical agents used?
Napsterbater
09-11-2007, 08:55 AM
Mounted police are often used for nonviolent crowd control, They just stand there and look imposing, just like a large security guard.
Foolsworth
09-11-2007, 09:07 AM
The video is from yesterday.
Ah ! Yer from yesterday.
gmsisko1
09-12-2007, 05:11 AM
Come on man,
He posted a sick twisted picture, I called it what is is.
Let's not post just insults, ok sisko?
gmsisko1
09-12-2007, 05:14 AM
Oh my,
I just read that it's funny!!!!
He Dharm, What bumper stickers do you have on your Kia?
you're confusing free with a right to steal from others.
you can put up a billboard (where zoning permits), but you can't post over other ppl's billboard's, staple signs to utilitly posts (yes, i know it's rarely enforced), or just put up yard signs in someone else's yard without their permission.
how would you feel if someone slapped a "nuke their ass, take the gas" bumper sticker on the back of your Kia?:lolhit:
Vilepagan
09-12-2007, 06:30 AM
Come on man,
He posted a sick twisted picture, I called it what is is.
Your reference was about another poster, not what they posted. :)
gmsisko1
09-12-2007, 07:53 PM
Yeah,
My bad. I'm sorry. I just get pissed off when I see such narrow minded crap.
Your reference was about another poster, not what they posted. :)
Vilepagan
09-12-2007, 07:56 PM
Yeah,
My bad. I'm sorry. I just get pissed off when I see such narrow minded crap.
It's cool...I understand your frustration. :)
BorgHunter
09-12-2007, 07:59 PM
Oh my,
I just read that it's funny!!!!
He Dharm, What bumper stickers do you have on your Kia?
Yes, but it's only funny once. The Kia joke was not funny a second time, repeated by you. Sorry.