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dharmabum
09-16-2007, 01:04 PM
If you like, a distinction without a difference.

The fact you cannot tell the difference between a revolution and a foriegn invasion says everything I need to know about your inability to comprehend the situation in Iraq.

There is no point in continuing this discussion with you if you are unable to understand such simple and obvious concepts.

:thumbs:
DB

Freethinker
09-16-2007, 01:11 PM
There is no point in continuing this discussion with you if you are unable to understand such simple and obvious concepts.

For a better understanding of waldo's worldview, see ----- willful ignorance (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=willful+ignorance).

It is quite prevalent among the uber-Conservative faction in this country.

The Praetorian
09-17-2007, 10:03 AM
You guys are both so fucking removed from reality it's laughable. Waldo's quip about "jooooo" hating may have been out of line, FT, but if THAT'S what it takes for you to condemn his point here, then you're being an idiot on purpose. Dharma doesn't have a choice in the matter - you do.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 10:07 AM
Prat,

You are the LAST person on here who has any room to talk about being removed from reality.
Well... ok, maybe third to last behind Fool and Waldo. ;)

:thumbs:
DB

waldo
09-17-2007, 10:11 AM
?!?!?

I said no such thing. What I said about Israel was simply a statement of fact. I was talking about the policies of the State of Israel, it was not meant as an indictment, in any way, of all Jewish people.


Wha.....??

I have never hinted at anything like "getting rid of the Jews", and I would greatly appreciate it if you'd stop with your lies to that effect. I have nothing whatsoever against the Jews as a people. The political leadership in Israel is a different matter.


Just wondering ft. You live in a nation that you accuse of being the world's largest terrorist. You pay taxes which are used in support of these policies. Ergo you too could be considered a terrorist. That you haven't removed yourself from the situation suggests that you are content to live off the fat of the land and willing to sacrifice of your principles, if we could call them that.
Why should we take your criticisms seriously?



You are but another liar and purveyor of strawmen in our midst.

Of course you didn't.:rolleyes:
And the retreat to the policies of the gov't was so predictable. Who do you think elected the gov't? Some secret cabal like the skull and bones society? Is your reference merely to the current gov't or every gov't since '67?

You're not fooling anybody.

waldo
09-17-2007, 10:13 AM
The fact you cannot tell the difference between a revolution and a foriegn invasion says everything I need to know about your inability to comprehend the situation in Iraq.

There is no point in continuing this discussion with you if you are unable to understand such simple and obvious concepts.

:thumbs:
DB

And you wonder why people refer to you as a drama queen. :rolleyes:

You made the same declaration about three pages and four days ago. But this time you really mean it, don't you?

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 10:17 AM
And you wonder why people refer to you as a drama queen.

No, I don't. I already know it is because they lack creativity. It is something I called Brooks and he reused it.

And FYI, it is "dhrama".

:thumbs:
DB

waldo
09-17-2007, 10:24 AM
I thought you were done. You promised!

And yet your still here.

So, still waiting on how important you think making iraq a success is? You've got a few hours left or is that question just too hard to answer?

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 10:28 AM
I thought you were done. You promised!

I am done trying to have a conversation with you about Iraq since you are so stupid you cannot even tell the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion. I won't waste my time on willfull idiots.


And yet your still here.

I never said I was going away, Drama-queen. ;)

:thumbs:
DB

waldo
09-17-2007, 10:36 AM
The conversation becomes inconvenient and drama absolves himself of further participation. Predictable.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 12:27 PM
The conversation becomes inconvenient and drama absolves himself of further participation.

"Inconvenient" is not a word I would use to describe someone who cannot tell the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion.

:rolleyes:

waldo
09-17-2007, 12:31 PM
So you don't think Iraq is undergoing a political and social revolution?

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 12:33 PM
So you don't think Iraq is undergoing a political and social revolution?

No, I sure don't.

The only thing that might be described as a "revolution" in Iraq is the one against our military occupation of their country, but I think "insurgency" is more accurate.

I just watched Red Dawn again this weekend and it struck me that is exactly what those kids in the movie did, is start an insurgency against a foreign occupation. Pretty similar to what they are doing in Iraq, minus the sectarian violence.

:thumbs:
DB

waldo
09-17-2007, 12:36 PM
No, I sure don't.

The only thing that might be described as a "revolution" in Iraq is the one against our military occupation of their country, but I think "insurgency" is more accurate.

I just watched Red Dawn again this weekend and it struck me that is exactly what those kids in the movie did, is start an insurgency against a foreign occupation. Pretty similar to what they are doing in Iraq, minus the sectarian violence.

:thumbs:
DB

The problem with that analogy is that most of the sunni tribes are fighting on our side, as our most of the shiites.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 12:37 PM
The problem with that analogy is that most of the sunni tribes are fighting on our side, as our most of the shiites.

Absolute nonsense.
But that is what I have come to expect from you.

For pete's sake, you don't even know the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion. :rolleyes:

The Praetorian
09-17-2007, 12:57 PM
I just watched Red Dawn again.....
There's a shocker. With classic cinema like that to enlighten your pea-sized brain, it's no wonder you'd draw that parallel. I mean, don't get me wrong here - bad acting and stupid premise aside - I loved it when I was 7. At 35, it must take on an entirely new meaning. Did you find yourself cheering for Lea Thompson and Jennifer Grey, or did you just spend your time jerking off to still frames of Patrick Swayze?

But hell, Dharma, all joking aside - I know what you mean. Just the other day they caught this hacker trying to crack the firewall at Chase Manhattan bank, and it kinda reminded me of War Games.

waldo
09-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Absolute nonsense.
But that is what I have come to expect from you.

For pete's sake, you don't even know the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion. :rolleyes:

Any fool can say it's nonsense. A smart one would be able to demonstrate it.

As an example the proof that iraq is undergoing a political revolution is in the change from one type of gov't (a dictatorship) to another (parliamentarian). That the change came about thru the use of force only further highlights the revolutionary nature of the change.

The Praetorian
09-17-2007, 02:07 PM
That the change came about thru the use of force only further highlights the revolutionary nature of the change.
Even if we were the precipitating factor here, it hardly changes the fact that (at this point in time) it's a full-scale revolution. It's patently absurd to argue with that reality, but hey, after all....it's Dharma we're talking to, so.......

paulc
09-17-2007, 02:13 PM
An Islamic Invasion is it,like next door.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 04:56 PM
Any fool can say it's nonsense. A smart one would be able to demonstrate it.

Any fool can make the claim that you made. Hell, you have to be a clueless fool to make idiotic claims like that.
If you had any brains at all you would have demonstrated it, but of course you cannot. The onus is on you to prove your claims, not on me to disprove whatever crap you spew. This is why you are a waste of time, you do nothing but spew unsubstantiated lies and then you demand that everyone unfortunate enough to try and converse with you to disprove your crap.

Hey, did you ever look up the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion yet? I doubt it. :rolleyes:

Have a nice day Waldo.

:thumbs:
DB

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 04:58 PM
There's a shocker.

The real shocker, Prat, is that you think you are anything but a pathetic joke. I have news for you, everyone knows you are absolutely fucking nuts. You are an idiot with no credibility.

:rolleyes:
DB

waldo
09-17-2007, 05:39 PM
Any fool can make the claim that you made. Hell, you have to be a clueless fool to make idiotic claims like that.
If you had any brains at all you would have demonstrated it, but of course you cannot. The onus is on you to prove your claims, not on me to disprove whatever crap you spew. This is why you are a waste of time, you do nothing but spew unsubstantiated lies and then you demand that everyone unfortunate enough to try and converse with you to disprove your crap.

Hey, did you ever look up the difference between a revolution and a foreign invasion yet? I doubt it. :rolleyes:

Have a nice day Waldo.

:thumbs:
DB

Says the guy, who when asked to provide a cite, gives a link that doesnt' work, claims it's from the GAO and then when confronted with the facts doesn't have the guts to stand up and admit he was wrong, again. Every time you even attempt to offer substantiation of your assertions we get a great big whoooooosh.

As for definitions, yeah i looked them up and that doesn't work in your favour either.
revolution - a sudden, radical, or complete change b : a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
http://merriam.com/dictionary/revolution

Now your going to tell us that doesn't describe to iraq.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 05:40 PM
You just can't take a hint, can you Waldo?

:rolleyes:

Napsterbater
09-17-2007, 06:13 PM
The real shocker, Prat, is that you think you are anything but a pathetic joke. I have news for you, everyone knows you are absolutely fucking nuts. You are an idiot with no credibility.

:rolleyes:
DB
If there were a poster who could speak for everyone here, it most certainly could never be dharma.

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 06:16 PM
If there were a poster who could speak for everyone here...

Not bloody likely. ;)

Napsterbater
09-17-2007, 06:50 PM
When did you take me off ignore?

dharmabum
09-17-2007, 06:57 PM
When did you take me off ignore?

Last night.

Napsterbater
09-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Damn, now I'm down to two.

*looks around for someone to agitate*

paulc
09-18-2007, 12:54 AM
I'll stick ya on ignore if ya want mate.

Napsterbater
09-18-2007, 01:36 AM
Seriously! :D Goddamn, what's a fellow got to do around here to get a little hate, eh? Maybe I gotta be a Canadian?

waldo
09-18-2007, 06:05 AM
You just can't take a hint, can you Waldo?

:rolleyes:

Which hint was that? The one where you've told us about a half dozen times that you were done with the conversation?

The one thing i do know is that you like getting rag-dolled.

~Sal~
09-18-2007, 07:38 AM
what does rag-dolled mean?

dharmabum
09-18-2007, 09:04 AM
what does rag-dolled mean?

Sounds like the kind of activity Decka is extremely familiar with.

:thumbs:

~Sal~
09-18-2007, 09:10 AM
Sounds like the kind of activity Decka is extremely familiar with.

:thumbs:
Well I just find it baffling that people want to be considered all open-minded about gay rights and then they use it to make slurs against others like that is supposed to be some kind of insult.

When I read it, I find it distasteful. Eh, what do I know? I was wondering if rag-dolled fell into the same category.

Maybe getting older and falling out of touch with the slang isn't such a bad thing after all. :thumbs:

dharmabum
09-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Well I just find it baffling that people want to be considered all open-minded about gay rights and then they use it to make slurs against others like that is supposed to be some kind of insult.

When I read it, I find it distasteful. Eh, what do I know? I was wondering if rag-dolled fell into the same category.

Maybe getting older and falling out of touch with the slang isn't such a bad thing after all. :thumbs:

Some of what passes for slang on here seems to be made up on the spot and shouldn't be given much thought.

We have some... strange... posters on here, to say the least. ;)

Shilohproject
09-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Seriously! :D Goddamn, what's a fellow got to do around here to get a little hate, eh? Maybe I gotta be a Canadian?I find it best to be hated on for trivial matters of style. So here:
Youandyourlameasswannaberapperhardstareselfwhynotg etcherselfsomefakegoldshanesdownatthefleamarketand agrilltohelpdefendagainstallthechickenheadskanksyo umugwithafterfeedingthemcrackitsallallyougotpunk.: cool:

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 09:36 AM
You are an idiot with no credibility.
Coming from you, I'll wear that insult as a badge of fucking honor.

Jesus, Dharma - can't you take a hint? You're an asshole. People here, in general, don't like you. Your arguments are pathetic, and the worst part is, when you're called out for being the dumb ass you are, you resort to playing games (but not intentionally - for you really don't understand what's going on, which is sad, but even worse yet, you won't go away). You're like a fuckin' venereal disease. Allforums has the equivalent of "flare-ups" when you arrive on scene. In summation, you couldn't intellectually stimulate a child, much less anyone else here. Dude, take a hike. Seriously. You're not worth debating.

As a matter of fact, let this be an open invitation to any moderator here who'd like to make 500 dollars cash-money. All you have to do is ban this dumb shit permanently, and voila' - the cash is yours.

waldo
09-18-2007, 10:31 AM
what does rag-dolled mean?

Ever seen a kid or a dog with a rag-doll? How they shake it from side to side throw it around like it's nothing.

In MMA parlance it's the equivalent of the guy holding you by the collar and slapping you silly.

paulc
09-18-2007, 10:58 AM
Dharma for President

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 11:32 AM
Of shit-chucking apes, sure.

If you could divide-by-zero when calculating the size of an asshole, you'd find his picture.

~Sal~
09-18-2007, 11:46 AM
Ever seen a kid or a dog with a rag-doll? How they shake it from side to side throw it around like it's nothing.

In MMA parlance it's the equivalent of the guy holding you by the collar and slapping you silly.
Okay, thanks for the clarification waldo.

paulc
09-18-2007, 11:47 AM
What u gonna do when Hilarys moves into Penn Avenue lad

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Never happen.

paulc
09-18-2007, 12:06 PM
Is this hope,or do you have a theory.In Europe shes favourite in the bookies.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 12:24 PM
Is this hope,or do you have a theory.
Just a hunch, but IMO, I'm fairly confident her party will fuck it up. Don't get me wrong, she's got a shot - a good one, but even at that, she's carrying a lot of baggage, and I'm not just talking about her legs and ass.

paulc
09-18-2007, 12:33 PM
I think things would be better if even one Republican was to stick out from the crowd,I think Republican supporters have a harder choice to make than Demo's.The Demo's are a 2 horse race.

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 02:49 PM
I think things would be better if even one Republican was to stick out from the crowd,I think Republican supporters have a harder choice to make than Demo's.The Demo's are a 2 horse race.
You're absolutely right. It's either gonna be Hilary or Obama for the Dems. The Republicans basically have nothing right now. There's no one candidate in the GOP right now that can unite enough voters to win.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 03:02 PM
The Demo's are a 2 horse race.
Both of them detracting from the other. IOW, it's gonna be tough for her. OTOH, Obama doesn't have a chance in hell.

paulc
09-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Both of them detracting from the other. IOW, it's gonna be tough for her. OTOH, Obama doesn't have a chance in hell.
Oddly enough,they were talking about this on radio the other day.
I dont know if its true but it seems that blacks dont like Obama,because he didnt come thru the slavery bit.
Tiger Woods type.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 03:51 PM
None of the blacks here today came through the "slavery bit" - at least not in the traditional sense (obviously). They don't have the slightest fucking clue what slavery is/was - aside from listening to bitter old Rufus' soliloquy about segregation in the '60's (which, of course, is waaaay different than slavery). They love riding that dead horse, but in the end, it's kind of like a rocking chair; it changes their perspective on things, but it doesn't get 'em anywhere.

The ONLY reason blacks will vote for Obama is because he, himself, is black. Hell, they'd vote for him if he was a staunch conservative. That said, blacks represent 13% of our population, yet of the 13, they'd be lucky if 25 percent of 'em showed up on Election Day. IOW, the blacks have NO say on anything. The Mexicans, OTOH - well, that's another story, and the politicians here are well aware of it.

Speaking of Tiger Woods, I hear he's gonna be the first billionaire athlete. Amazing, isn't it?

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 03:59 PM
Did you know that the average black person in America has had ancestry here for far longer than the average white person? Almost all blacks today could trace their lineage back to the mid-1700s, at the height of slave imports to North America. The average white person has had ancestors in America for less than 200 years. I learned that in history class. Kind of interesting.

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Who brough the slaves in from Africa then.
U haul

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:07 PM
None of the blacks here today came through the "slavery bit" - at least not in the traditional sense (obviously). They don't have the slightest fucking clue what slavery is/was - aside from listening to bitter old Rufus' soliloquy about segregation in the '60's (which, of course, is waaaay different than slavery). They love riding that dead horse, but in the end, it's kind of like a rocking chair; it changes their perspective on things, but it doesn't get 'em anywhere.

The ONLY reason blacks will vote for Obama is because he, himself, is black. Hell, they'd vote for him if he was a staunch conservative. That said, blacks represent 13% of our population, yet of the 13, they'd be lucky if 25 percent of 'em showed up on Election Day. IOW, the blacks have NO say on anything. The Mexicans, OTOH - well, that's another story, and the politicians here are well aware of it.

Speaking of Tiger Woods, I hear he's gonna be the first billionaire athlete. Amazing, isn't it?Tiger Woods,yeah,watched him do a round here once,couldnt believe he actually spoke with that accent in real life,there ya go.Ever notice all these rich black guys have white women on they're arm,ever notice that.Black Power or what.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 04:09 PM
Did you know that the average black person in America has had ancestry here for far longer than the average white person? Almost all blacks today could trace their lineage back to the mid-1700s, at the height of slave imports to North America. The average white person has had ancestors in America for less than 200 years. I learned that in history class. Kind of interesting.
I buy that. Of course, my ancestry here dates back to the Mayflower on my mother's side. My father, OTOH, well, I think his great grandparents showed up here circa 1800-1820.

You know, I was just thinking....it's kinda interesting to note that we're fairly familiar with one another here.

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:11 PM
What dose that mean,explain yourself lad.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 04:17 PM
Ever notice all these rich black guys have white women on they're arm,ever notice that.
Uhhh, yeah. I have. It's a status symbol for them. Sometimes you'll see the skinniest black dude with the fattest, nastiest white chick (who's usually driving the car they're in - which is, most likely, a purple Pontiac Grand Am), and he's lovin' it.

The richer they get, the skinnier their "white womens" are.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 04:18 PM
What dose that mean,explain yourself lad.
Which part?

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:18 PM
Post 154

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
Who brough the slaves in from Africa then.
U haul
There are a lot of Americans who can trace their lineage back to the days of the colonies, but that was only a couple million at most (Note: this is an estimate based on absolutely no evidence... lol). After the Revolution, and peaking around 1900) millions upon millions of Europeans came to America. Therefore, they have generated a LOT more ancestors than the earlier emigrants.

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
To add to that... Only 1/4 of my family tree (my mother's mother's side) has been here since before 1800. The rest are Swedish, Irish, and Italians who came mostly after 1850.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Do you mean this part of 154:
You know, I was just thinking....it's kinda interesting to note that we're fairly familiar with one another here.
???

If so, then nothing - it's just interesting that (after 9 thousand + entries here) I've gotten to know the other posters pretty well. We've shared a lot of personal (but not too personal) information with one another. Well, aside from my BBG tale, right, DF? ;)

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
That makes sense,ok.

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:28 PM
Do you mean this part of 154:

???

If so, then nothing - it's just interesting that (after 9 thousand + entries here) I've gotten to know the other posters pretty well. We've shared a lot of personal (but not too personal) information with one another. Well, aside from my BBG tale, right, DF? ;)Im sorry I asked now,I'll just leave for a few minutes and let u and DF have a quiet moment.

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:29 PM
Haha, you're right Prae. Most of the regular posters really bring a lot of themselves with them instead of just being anonymous internet personalities.

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:32 PM
To add to that... Only 1/4 of my family tree (my mother's mother's side) has been here since before 1800. The rest are Swedish, Irish, and Italians who came mostly after 1850.After 1850,thats not bad.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Im sorry I asked now,I'll just leave for a few minutes and let u and DF have a quiet moment.
She ain't legal yet. Maybe in a few months.

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:34 PM
Haha, you're right Prae. Most of the regular posters really bring a lot of themselves with them instead of just being anonymous internet personalities.Apart from the ones who dont have a personality ya mean hehe

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:34 PM
She ain't legal yet. Maybe in a few months.
:lolhit:

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:35 PM
She ain't legal yet. Maybe in a few months.
IM BACK,WHA DID I MI...............oh right.

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:37 PM
IM BACK,WHA DID I MI...............oh right.
:confused: A few pints into it, paulie?

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:41 PM
:confused: A few pints into it, paulie?
I said Id go and leave u 2 alone for a few minutes.

Then I said,''Im back,what did I mi.....ss,''
to Praes thread,
more confused now hehe

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 04:48 PM
Wow... So confused... Hehehe...

paulc
09-18-2007, 04:52 PM
I confused myself on that one.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 05:00 PM
You two are confusing the shit outta me.

DarkFantasy96
09-18-2007, 05:01 PM
You two are confusing the shit outta me.
I just laughed so much that I almost died... Oh god... ROFL.

The Praetorian
09-18-2007, 05:08 PM
This is like an episode of the Benny Hill Show. :)

paulc
09-18-2007, 05:19 PM
Loved Benny Hill,
you know what I mean.

dharmabum
09-19-2007, 12:08 AM
Dharma for President

Mucho Gracias!

I will sponsor you for citizenship so you can come over and vote for me. ;)