"Ah shit :) ", I "can't" say that on the Christian messageboard. Ok? :)

Those of us that are on the side of God and are also Christian, are not trying to save all of mankind. :) Noper! We are just trying to explain to folks that they should choose wisely. Knowing full well that some foks are not going to choose wisely. Or there would be no second judgement ( maybe even no first judgement )

Everybody knows that "Makind" is going to destroy "Manking". We have all been warned by alot of really brilliant minds. The question is, "Can some of us be saved?" Jesus says yes.

We know that Christians are saved, the question is, "Can they save the rest of the world?" And not all Christians are actually saved :) I love that part :) Some of them lied :)

Tuck (I just came back to say, "Ah Shit!" :) because I can say it here :) )

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The whole "saved" thing is a Christian belief. So, if one is NOT a christian, then they don't worry about being saved. I just can't believe that this religion fraud (be it christian or any other religion) still goes on today.

In fact, in America, it seems to have gone out of hand. Its starting to scare me. I'm worried that we will become a "Saudi Arabia" or something...(of course diffferent religion)..

however.. saying that (see above), I would still rather live in a "christian" nation than any other nation. I mean if I had to choose.

The whole "saved" thing is a Christian belief. So, if one is NOT a christian, then they don't worry about being saved. I just can't believe that this religion fraud (be it christian or any other religion) still goes on today.

In fact, in America, it seems to have gone out of hand. Its starting to scare me. I'm worried that we will become a "Saudi Arabia" or something...(of course diffferent religion)..

Hi Mesk, tis nice to meet you! Your posted wisdom is a bit over whelming. "Shit" son you are right :) based on my experience. If we want a peaceful world we are kind of up against religion, politics, mostly money, and folks just running around loose :) (Except Nappy and I :) )

Mesk you have stated the problem (and it is not Nappy and I :) ) Do you have any suggestions relative to solve? Mankind is going to destroy itself, that is a given. Mesk do you have any suggestions how we can solve this problem? Is God the problem? Mankind is more important than God. We are you know.

Tuck

however.. saying that (see above), I would still rather live in a "christian" nation than any other nation. I mean if I had to choose.

Mesk :) major hugs! I agree! Some Christians are noisy, pushy, and rude. But at the same time some Christians are real. Some Islamic folk are real. There are even some good yogis. "In God we trust!" At the same time Nappy and I and folks like us will dink with things :) I think that God is big enough to handle this/things :)

Mesk, I personally love your input. Not that it matters.

Tuck

The whole "saved" thing is a Christian belief. So, if one is NOT a christian, then they don't worry about being saved. I just can't believe that this religion fraud (be it christian or any other religion) still goes on today.

In fact, in America, it seems to have gone out of hand. Its starting to scare me. I'm worried that we will become a "Saudi Arabia" or something...(of course diffferent religion)..


It is out of hand, we're actually taking notice of your IP and figuring out where you live so we can come blow up your house.

Oh wait, this is America, we dont do that kind of thing here, its the anti christian that seems to be insighting the hate in the U.S now adays.
religious hating bigots who are spawning the revolt over diversity.
Hate here in the good ol U.S of A. Kind of sounds superstitious in and of itself.
Hope you dont start worshipping evolution soon and bantering, "This is our land!"
Dang, to late again. Dawkins is marking the trail for that front.

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Nappy are we pissed at Liquidfork ?

What in the shit did he do? I love a good "Donnybrook", whos side am I on?

Don't tell me to stay out of it. I will hunt everybody to extinction, even though I am the one who becomes extinct :) it is my nature. I smell a "Donnybrook" Nappy :) God but I love AllForums, here I can be Me!

I can kick some Nappy butt and Nappy can kick some John butt and life is good! :)

Tuck :) I hate Christian websites, I want to hang out with "rogue". It is just that nobody has "Ever" done "Rogue" before and actually got away with it. But/so/because, there has got to be some money in "Rogue". It is just that it is a tricky reality to handle :) But then we got "Sparky" :) ! Maybe the "Never" can be done :) maybe! :)

It is out of hand, we're actually taking notice of your IP and figuring out where you live so we can come blow up your house.

Oh wait, this is America, we dont do that kind of thing here, its the anti christian that seems to be insighting the hate in the U.S now adays.
religious hating bigots who are spawning the revolt over diversity.
Hate here in the good ol U.S of A. Kind of sounds superstitious in and of itself.
Hope you dont start worshipping evolution soon and bantering, "This is our land!"
Dang, to late again. Dawkins is marking the trail for that front.

Hi Inviolable, I trust you as a person of God! And as good rep of God's.Yes I do! Ok?

America is the only thing that stands between the "Godless folk" and the "God folk" in todays world. Inspite of the fact that we as a nation are up to our "tushes" in the "Godless folk", in our own nation.

Inviolable when this is all over, I will either be extinct or just have to go work in my garden because there is no place for anybody like me. Because the world is a peace :) ,at least for a thousand years. I am having the time of my life, no matter how things end up. If He/God is real, "too cool!" If He/God ain't, I am going to fight on His side anyway :) Yepper!

Iviolable play the gentler side of Christianity. Please do not get mean like me :) Ok? My immoral soul is in question :) and I don't mind :) Ok?

Inviolably you are loved! Our world is a better place because you and folks like you are in it!

Tuck

Hi Inviolable, I trust you as a person of God! And as good rep of God's.Yes I do! Ok?

America is the only thing that stands between the "Godless folk" and the "God folk" in todays world. Inspite of the fact that we as a nation are up to our "tushes" in the "Godless folk", in our own nation.

Inviolable when this is all over, I will either be extinct or just have to go work in my garden because there is no place for anybody like me. Because the world is a peace :) ,at least for a thousand years. I am having the time of my life, no matter how things end up. If He/God is real, "too cool!" If He/God ain't, I am going to fight on His side anyway :) Yepper!

Iviolable play the gentler side of Christianity. Please do not get mean like me :) Ok? My immoral soul is in question :) and I don't mind :) Ok?

Inviolably you are loved! Our world is a better place because you and folks like you are in it!

Tuck


It's just growing, we're getting close.

The picture Nap left kind of left me a little upset has well. I really don't care if it was directed at one person. It only serves one objective, to direct hate tward Christians.
It should be known that some of the shelters people are passing on their way to church wouldnt exist if it werent for Christians. There are homeless shelters that are completely Christian run all across the country that have no government funding and are kept going soley on Christian donations.
Lets not focus on that, its to good to focus on, lets redirect anything good that might come from Christianity because we don't like it.
Christians also open their churches up for families in need, while the members of the church help the family with things like erronds, grociery shopping and washing their clothes.
But they more then likely want those people to read the bible so its bad.

Actually they dont, they simply help.
The world is spreading hate and people are jumping out of circus cars like midgets with stuffed sox running to spread it anyway they can.
It's really that stupid.

All the cool people are in hell anyways...

To be totally honest with you, Inviolable, I don't care much about the images and stuff I post. If I find something I think is kind of funny or biting and relates to a topic, I'll post it, not actually thinking at all what other's might think about it. I don't run into much stuff like this from a Christian point of view, but if I did, I'd gladly post it.

Do you have any suggestions relative to solve? Mankind is going to destroy itself, that is a given..........do you have any suggestions how we can solve this problem? Is God the problem?

The mental imbalance that causes people to "believe in" this "god" fantasy is the real problem. Especially when it is the Xtian god.

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"Now to the root of the matter. The great unmentionable evil at the center of American culture is monotheism. From a barbaric
Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament, three anti-human religions have evolved---Judaism,Christianity and Islam. These are
the sky-god religions. They are,literally, patriarchal---God is the omnipotent father---hence the loathing of women for 2000 years in
those countries afflicted by the sky-god and his earthly male delegates. The sky-god is a jealous god, of course. He requires
total obedience from everyone on Earth, as he is in place not just for one tribe, but for all creation. Those who would reject him
must be converted or killed for their own good. Ultimately, totalitarianism is the only sort of politics that can
truly serve the sky-god's purpose. Any movement of a liberal nature endangers his authority and that of his delegates on earth.
One God, one King, one master in the factory, one father-leader in the family at home."______Gore Vidal

"Ah shit :) ", I "can't" say that on the Christian messageboard. Ok? :)

Those of us that are on the side of God and are also Christian, are not trying to save all of mankind. :) Noper! We are just trying to explain to folks that they should choose wisely. Knowing full well that some foks are not going to choose wisely. Or there would be no second judgement ( maybe even no first judgement )

Everybody knows that "Makind" is going to destroy "Manking". We have all been warned by alot of really brilliant minds. The question is, "Can some of us be saved?" Jesus says yes.

We know that Christians are saved, the question is, "Can they save the rest of the world?" And not all Christians are actually saved :) I love that part :) Some of them lied :)

Tuck (I just came back to say, "Ah Shit!" :) because I can say it here :) )
Tuck I'm just not sure what you are asking here. Save mankind from extinction, why? We are born, we live, we die. All will die, that is a certainty. If none are left, who cares?

Or are you speaking of the Christian belief in saving souls? Is that what you mean by extinction?

It's just growing, we're getting close.

The picture Nap left kind of left me a little upset has well. I really don't care if it was directed at one person. It only serves one objective, to direct hate tward Christians.
It should be known that some of the shelters people are passing on their way to church wouldnt exist if it werent for Christians. There are homeless shelters that are completely Christian run all across the country that have no government funding and are kept going soley on Christian donations.
Lets not focus on that, its to good to focus on, lets redirect anything good that might come from Christianity because we don't like it.
Christians also open their churches up for families in need, while the members of the church help the family with things like erronds, grociery shopping and washing their clothes.
But they more then likely want those people to read the bible so its bad.

Actually they dont, they simply help.
The world is spreading hate and people are jumping out of circus cars like midgets with stuffed sox running to spread it anyway they can.
It's really that stupid.

Inviolable, reading your post before I read anybody else's, I have this to say, "You carry alot of wisdom for somebody as young as you are."

"And playing in a "Rogue" reality will/can make one mean."

But the thing to remember is that you are talking to the viewers and maybe a few other friends that post on the messageboard that you are present in. Viewers do not post, but they do send your posts to their friends in E-mail.

Watch Nappy kick John's butt :) "Humming in an E-mail reality!" :) I love it :) Michelle :) no normal guy watches her sig. and is not happy that it is there. Period! Wether they admit it or not. She found the "kicker" :) She just did!

The question is, "How can we tease her about it?" Otherwise we have to admit that she found the "kicker". Never, Never, and Never say uncle! Right Nappy? I mean after all it is "just" words and we are all licensed. :)

Inviolable, my job is to just wade in there and hopefull kick "tush" (Tuck hopes that Nappy don't get "shrinkage ", he is a muffin you know, soft and willing :) ). It is Christians like you Inviolable that actually rep Jesus ( Oh ya, in the middle of mayhem.) :)

You really are loved you know!

Tuck

If non-Christians are as hateful as you are, Freethinker I will happily remain a Chriastian. I don't see anyone bashing atherists but you seem unable to post without bashing Christians.

In answer to Tucker's question...........yes, God can save part of mankind again. In fact, God can save all of mankind. Being omnipotent God can save whoever He wishes to save. If He wishes to save only Christians that is what he will do. If he wishes to save everyone that is what He will do. I cannot presume to speak for God or to know his mind. There is no way I can say that God will not save non-Christians. That would be unbelievably presumptious of me.

It should be known that some of the shelters people are passing on their way to church wouldnt exist if it werent for Christians. There are homeless shelters that are completely Christian run all across the country that have no government funding and are kept going soley on Christian donations.


You are absolutely correct about that. There are even Christian based homeless centers in non-Christian countries.

You are absolutely correct about that. There are even Christian based homeless centers in non-Christian countries.


So why would you want to take that away?

If non-Christians are as hateful as you are, Freethinker I will happily remain a Chriastian. I don't see anyone bashing atherists but you seem unable to post without bashing Christians.

In answer to Tucker's question...........yes, God can save part of mankind again. In fact, God can save all of mankind. Being omnipotent God can save whoever He wishes to save. If He wishes to save only Christians that is what he will do. If he wishes to save everyone that is what He will do. I cannot presume to speak for God or to know his mind. There is no way I can say that God will not save non-Christians. That would be unbelievably presumptious of me.

My good friend Frogger (and with you I am being honest) may I ask you these questions:

I am a born again Christian. And Again and again and again and again.

How can this be possible? Can one be a "born again Christian" more than once? I am at the point where I expect to be "born again" on my path toward salvation, even though I am already "born again". Should I be concerned?

Tuck

All the cool people are in hell anyways...

500lb you bring up and interesting concept :) The Fnal Judgement, If God said, "I can not judge my children!" And He give you an opportunity to choose for youself so that He didn't have too, "500lb would you choose to "go" with the "Cool People" and it ain't God's fault?"

Tuck

The mental imbalance that causes people to "believe in" this "god" fantasy is the real problem. Especially when it is the Xtian god.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Now to the root of the matter. The great unmentionable evil at the center of American culture is monotheism. From a barbaric
Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament, three anti-human religions have evolved---Judaism,Christianity and Islam. These are
the sky-god religions. They are,literally, patriarchal---God is the omnipotent father---hence the loathing of women for 2000 years in
those countries afflicted by the sky-god and his earthly male delegates. The sky-god is a jealous god, of course. He requires
total obedience from everyone on Earth, as he is in place not just for one tribe, but for all creation. Those who would reject him
must be converted or killed for their own good. Ultimately, totalitarianism is the only sort of politics that can
truly serve the sky-god's purpose. Any movement of a liberal nature endangers his authority and that of his delegates on earth.
One God, one King, one master in the factory, one father-leader in the family at home."______Gore Vidal

Hi Free :) And again your wisdom is interesting! And again you have hit the heart of the matter! :)

So Free what if I said this (and I will rot in hell for it :) ), "Christianity is a Jewish sect and it ain't God's fault. The Jews have been a pain in God's "tush" since Adam and Eve. We are all caught up in the backwash that is a Jewiah problem with God."

Jesus claimed that He came to replace the Old Law. The New Law is to "Love God and Your Neighbor." Where is the love? And why are Christians and their minsters shoving the Old Law down our throats and corrupting mankind with it? I love Grumpy :) I think the he had the "kicker" about the Jews :) .

I am a man of God. I am a Christian. But I do not blame Atheists or people like you Free that question Christanity. Christianity needs to take a look at itself and maybe kick some of the money changers out of the "Temple". And promoting "Fear" to get people to know God is not what God is about. God is about "Love", not money or fear (Oh and not about power :) power is the Old Law).

Rogue, Rev.Tuck

Opps :)

My good friend Frogger (and with you I am being honest) may I ask you these questions:

I am a born again Christian. And Again and again and again and again.

How can this be possible? Can one be a "born again Christian" more than once? I am at the point where I expect to be "born again" on my path toward salvation, even though I am already "born again". Should I be concerned?

Tuck

Being born into a new life in Christ need not be a one time thing. I feel I have been born into Christ more than once. There are times when I doubt and then something happens to ease my doubts and I am born again and once again washed in the blood of the Lamb.

I always question those who say they are 'born again' as if that means they are suddenly never with any doubts. Doubt is ingrained in the human condition. We doubt what we cannot see, cannot hear and cannot touch. Faith is what allows us to overcome those doubts and sadly, sometimes faith wavers for a bit.

Tuck I'm just not sure what you are asking here. Save mankind from extinction, why? We are born, we live, we die. All will die, that is a certainty. If none are left, who cares?

Or are you speaking of the Christian belief in saving souls? Is that what you mean by extinction?

Hi Sal, Major Hugs!

First, this world "might" be a better place without mankind in it, if it could be done without destroying the planet.

Second, "some" folks that are claiming that they worship the "God of Abraham" (Jews, Christians, and Moslems) are attemping to destroy our world and us. And they are also giving the "God of Abraham" a bad rap/rep. It is like "Warior" said before she got banned, "I don't worship their God, I won't worship their God! If that really is God, then I don't want Him for my God!" She was right.

Anyway Sal, I hope that this makes some kind of sense. Like Dan said, "John you are odd :) ." And another thing that is funny is that Brahma/Brahman is also Jewish. :) I don't know, the whole thing is a mess and I don't think that it is God's fault.

Tuck

Being born into a new life in Christ need not be a one time thing. I feel I have been born into Christ more than once. There are times when I doubt and then something happens to ease my doubts and I am born again and once again washed in the blood of the Lamb.

I always question those who say they are 'born again' as if that means they are suddenly never with any doubts. Doubt is ingrained in the human condition. We doubt what we cannot see, cannot hear and cannot touch. Faith is what allows us to overcome those doubts and sadly, sometimes faith wavers for a bit.

I love you Frogger! You are real! It is just what do we do about this mess :) ? I guess maybe that is a prayer :) EEK! "And the Holy Spirit will speak through you." EEK! :) I can say this and you do understand what I am saying. "Hugs to all of manking!" :) Frogger and I are loose!

Rev. Tuck

So now what, "Can God save mankind again?" If one correlates the Bible and Science this stuff has been going on for at least 60 million years now.

The Bible says that God is slow to wrath. Talk about slow, 60 million years is ridiculous. And so far all he has gotten mad at is the Jews.

On my other post I said that God is based on love not fear :) If this is true He might just go away because nobody loves Him. And then Nappy can say he is dead :) But at the sametime I love Him, so He can't go away :)

And I know that others do also :) so God can't go away.

Those of us that love God, inspite of Satan's trails and temptations, bind God to playing in this world. We do you know :) The martyrs in Heaven gathered around the feet of God, also bind God to this world. They do you know.

We live in interesting times; and Bush has started Armegeddon. I don't think that it is about promoting God anymore, I think it is about "be thankful" that you love God :) crap is happening :)

Rev. Tuck

Guys based on what I am picking up in the "force", everybody thinks that I am totally insane, even my few friends on this message board. :)

Well now that we have that streightened out :) The gift of All Foums.net is that here we can be ourselves. Yes sometimes it is the "clash of the titans", but heck that is where part the fun is :)

Warrior and Blackhawk and I :) lone woves fighting the pack! Everybody here is an individual playing with other individuals. None of us here herd or flock well. All Forums.net is "Freedom!" Nowhere else on the internet can/could I post the stuff that I have posted. Here you guys just play around me, "Oh, it is just John again." But I still get to run my "dribble". I am a legend in my own mind! :) and everybody knows it.

America stands for Freedom of Speech, All Forums.net "is" Freedom of Speech, if at all possible. Sparky gives us the ultimate slack, he does you know. And he will even wade in and kick/create some conflict, around with us :)

I am happy that God and Sparky got together and gave us All Forums.net. We are Jerry Springer, Doctor Phill, and Saturday Night Live all rolled into one. :)

Tuck

Hi Sal, Major Hugs!

First, this world "might" be a better place without mankind in it, if it could be done without destroying the planet.

Second, "some" folks that are claiming that they worship the "God of Abraham" (Jews, Christians, and Moslems) are attemping to destroy our world and us. And they are also giving the "God of Abraham" a bad rap/rep. It is like "Warior" said before she got banned, "I don't worship their God, I won't worship their God! If that really is God, then I don't want Him for my God!" She was right.

Anyway Sal, I hope that this makes some kind of sense. Like Dan said, "John you are odd :) ." And another thing that is funny is that Brahma/Brahman is also Jewish. :) I don't know, the whole thing is a mess and I don't think that it is God's fault.

Tuck

Well tuck, *major hugs back* I don't think this planet would be a better place without mankind in it. I am kinda partial to people. The planet is merely a temporary place for us to abide. It would be nice if we could just be more respectful of our abode.

People blame God for a lot of things. In the end, it is insignificant as the demon they must fight is within them not some force from outside. We try too hard to make God human and project our own desires and behaviour upon a force which is so large and powerful that we have not the mental capacity to comprehend that force.

Personally, I have found God's true nature can best be found by seeking my true nature. A person who is balanced and centred gives off his spirit be they Buddist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian... etc. So as far as I am concerned mankind does not need to be "saved again". They need only look inward.

Well tuck, *major hugs back* I don't think this planet would be a better place without mankind in it. I am kinda partial to people. The planet is merely a temporary place for us to abide. It would be nice if we could just be more respectful of our abode.

People blame God for a lot of things. In the end, it is insignificant as the demon they must fight is within them not some force from outside. We try too hard to make God human and project our own desires and behaviour upon a force which is so large and powerful that we have not the mental capacity to comprehend that force.

Personally, I have found God's true nature can best be found by seeking my true nature. A person who is balanced and centred gives off his spirit be they Buddist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian... etc. So as far as I am concerned mankind does not need to be "saved again". They need only look inward.

sal I know that I am passing judgement here, but in my personal opinion, you are very wise (and I say this honestly). And your wisdom comes from personal experience not some guru (and how you can be wise and fun at the same time I have no idea :) )

Sal I pesonally have a "Tail Feather", and I am happy about it, and I don't think that you give them out freely.

Anyway Sal, based on my personal experience, what your have said above is real. And thank you for being a part of my life.

You are loved!

John