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The Dude
09-06-2007, 02:33 PM
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/09/05/ap4086085.html

VERY SCARY!!!!!!!

es347fan
09-06-2007, 02:51 PM
VERY SCARY!!!!!!!

How many times have they been over your head without you're being aware of the fact? The USAF has been moving them around, probably since the early 1950's.

:bombout:

M&Mdelite
09-06-2007, 07:25 PM
The head of that operation has been fired, so maybe it is a rare case.

Vilepagan
09-06-2007, 07:27 PM
According to the article it's the first time such a thing has been reported.

mikezila
09-06-2007, 07:33 PM
Whoops! good thing they didn't fall off. they might have hurt somebody.

Napsterbater
09-06-2007, 07:37 PM
If they have to move nukes, I believe they typically take them apart and truck or fly the pieces separately. I bet the Air Force has a T.O. (Technical Order, big-ass binders detailing procedure to follow on tasks) out there filling up a whole room about it. Putting whole nukes on a plane... that's just fucking irresponsible.

Foolsworth
09-06-2007, 08:05 PM
According to the article it's the first time such a thing has been reported.

Well...Gee Jolly...geepers,thar Mr.Mod Man.
I wonder how Nukes get to a missle site.
Are they trucked there? Maybe Rail.
Obviously a Nuke isn't made and weaponized at the actual
sillo.
Use what brains God left at yer disposal,fer cryin out loud.

Napsterbater
09-06-2007, 08:08 PM
On the contrary, I would bet that's exactly what they do. Manufacture the pieces separately, then assemble them at the site. Just like a car. The silos themselves would be equipped with all the necessary tools to maintain it, and they probably pull the things apart from time to time for periodic maintenance and computer checks.

Vilepagan
09-06-2007, 08:11 PM
I wonder how Nukes get to a missle site.
Are they trucked there? Maybe Rail.

Usually, yes.


Obviously a Nuke isn't made and weaponized at the actual
sillo.

Obviously not. Usually they're transported without their fissile cores.


Use what brains God left at yer disposal,fer cryin out loud.

I don't believe I got my brains from God. :)

mikezila
09-06-2007, 08:12 PM
On the contrary, I would bet that's exactly what they do. Manufacture the pieces separately, then assemble them at the site. Just like a car. The silos themselves would be equipped with all the necessary tools to maintain it, and they probably pull the things apart from time to time for periodic maintenance and computer checks.
that makes a whole lot more sense than trying to lift a big honking missile and lower it into a hole in the ground.:thumbs:

Napsterbater
09-06-2007, 08:12 PM
And I'd be willing to bet also that the warhead and missile are kept separate inside the silo, with the exception of the ones currently on standby, and they rotate the standby nukes on a regular basis. Weaponizing the system probably takes only around half an hour or so, if not shorter.

Foolsworth
09-06-2007, 08:16 PM
Usually, yes.



Obviously not. Usually they're transported without their fissile cores.



I don't believe I got my brains from God. :)

So which is it.
You don't believe you got Brains,
or that God Gave you brains.
Any which way butts loose,you still look silly.
I'd amend that comment real quick if I was yuz.
Not juts to save face.
But,you may well have to post somethin important like a
simple Bundt cake recipe later.

Vilepagan
09-06-2007, 08:18 PM
And I'd be willing to bet also that the warhead and missile are kept separate inside the silo, with the exception of the ones currently on standby, and they rotate the standby nukes on a regular basis. Weaponizing the system probably takes only around half an hour or so, if not shorter.

I would tend to agree. I would also suspect most of the components are modular for easy and quick replacement.

Vilepagan
09-06-2007, 08:19 PM
Any which way butts loose,you still look silly.


You think I look silly? Have you ever read one of your posts?

Napsterbater
09-06-2007, 08:21 PM
Rofl!

Vilepagan
09-06-2007, 08:23 PM
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/09/05/ap4086085.html

VERY SCARY!!!!!!!

Not nearly as scary as these accidents...

http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/accidents.htm

From the article:

"January 17, 1966, Palomares, Spain

A B-52 bomber carrying four hydrogen bombs collided in midair with a KC-135 tanker near Palomares, Spain. Of the four H-bombs aboard, two weapons' high explosive material exploded on ground impact, releasing radioactive materials, including plutonium, over the fields of Palomares. Approximately 1,400 tons of slightly contaminated soil and vegetation were later taken to the United States for storage at an approved site. A third nuclear weapon fell to earth but remained relatively intact; the last one fell into the ocean.


The weapon that sank in the Mediterranean set off one of the largest search and recovery operations in history. The search took about eighty days and employed 3,000 Navy personnel and 33 Navy vessels, not including ships, planes, and people used to move equipment to the site. Although the midget sub "Alvin" located the bomb after two weeks, it was not recovered until April 7. Wreckage from the accident fell across approximately 100 square miles of land and water.


The accident occurred during a routine high altitude air refueling operation as the B-52 was returning to Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, North Carolina, after flying the southern route of the Strategic Air Command air alert mission code named "Chrome Dome." The bomber was attempting its third refueling with a KC-135 tanker from the American base at Moron, when the nozzle of the tanker's boom struck the bomber. The boom ripped open the B-52 along its spine, snapping the bomber into pieces. The KC-135's 40,000 gallons of jet fuel ignited, killing seven crewmen."

And,

"January 24, 1961, Goldsboro, North Carolina

In what nearly became a nuclear catastrophe, a B-52 bomber on airborne alert carrying two nuclear weapons broke apart in midair. The B-52 experienced structural failure in its right wing and the aircraft's resulting breakup released the two weapons from a height of 2,000-10,000 feet. One of the bomb's parachutes deployed properly and that weapon's damage was minimal. However, the second bomb's parachute malfunctioned and the weapon broke apart upon impact, scattering its components over a wide area. According to Daniel Ellsberg, the weapon could have accidentally fired because "five of the six safety devices had failed." Nuclear physicist Ralph E. Lapp supported this assertion, saying that "only a single switch" had "prevented the bomb from detonating and spreading fire and destruction over a wide area."


Despite an extensive search of the waterlogged farmland where the weapon was believed to have landed, the bomb's highly enriched uranium core was never recovered. In order to prevent any discovery of the lost portion of the weapon, the Air Force purchased an easement which required that permission be obtained before any construction or digging could begin in the area. Three crew members were killed in the crash.


The accident was apparently so serious that it was reported to newly-elected President John F. Kennedy. According to Newsweek, President Kennedy was informed after the accident that "there had been more than 60 accidents involving nuclear weapons" since World War II, "including two cases in which nuclear-tipped anti-aircraft missiles were actually launched by inadvertence." As a result of the Goldsboro accident, the U.S. placed many new safety devices on its nuclear arsenal and the Soviet Union was encouraged to do the same."

At least we don't have any "Ready Alert" planes flying around anymore.

Foolsworth
09-06-2007, 08:24 PM
that makes a whole lot more sense than trying to lift a big honking missile and lower it into a hole in the ground.:thumbs:

I dunno.
Seems to work really good over at Smarty's Sillo site.

Napsterbater
09-06-2007, 08:25 PM
Even bigger ROFL!!