I just heard some startling facts about Today's Poverty.
Most of us can attest to what our eye's inform.What we see isn't
far from the real truth.
Today's Poverty isn't what Poor used to be.
I don't have the facts at the ready or the article,but did hear
some distrubing facts about those apparently IN Poverty.
80-85% of those in Poverty have cell phones & Cable hookup.
1 or more TV's.And it's a Colored TV not B & W.A household with
1 or more vehicle.
And going back there's an article about how Wal-Mart CONTRIBUTES to
Poverty.That is almost impossible.Wal-Mart goes out of it's way
to employ those in the Communities it serves.They pay decent wages.
The only way Wal-Mart could " Contribute " to Poverty would be if
Poor customers,BUY way too much at those very reasonable and low
prices.It's tempting to Over-shop at a Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart does eliminate most Mom & Pop stores,but those stores
couldn't possibly employ or pay,with the consistency of a Wal-Mart.

Poverty is part upbringing and part mindset.
Our recent AG { Attorney General } grew up in Poverty.
Read the accounts of his struggles born into poverty.

wal-mart shmal-mart. decent pay? barely above minimum wage and part time too. wooo.... ain't that just nice o dem?

poor people? or just a bunch of spoiled brats? or maybe it is monkey see monkey do?

nobody needs half the shit they buy now.

i don't have a bunch of money. i don't have a credit card, i don't have any debt, no house payment, no rent to pay, no money saved, no insurance, no cell phone, no phone at all, no cable tv, or sattelite access, or internet access except public. and i am not poor. i have a roof over my head, food to eat, and clean water to drink, and a safe place to sleep.

people are pathetic. if they don't have the above things, they act like the world may end and worry and fret all the time. pathetic.

wal-mart shmal-mart. decent pay? barely above minimum wage and part time too. wooo.... ain't that just nice o dem?

poor people? or just a bunch of spoiled brats? or maybe it is monkey see monkey do?

nobody needs half the shit they buy now.

i don't have a bunch of money. i don't have a credit card, i don't have any debt, no house payment, no rent to pay, no money saved, no insurance, no cell phone, no phone at all, no cable tv, or sattelite access, or internet access except public. and i am not poor. i have a roof over my head, food to eat, and clean water to drink, and a safe place to sleep.

people are pathetic. if they don't have the above things, they act like the world may end and worry and fret all the time. pathetic.


Um...Okey Dokey.
Like...how much did you spend on yer SmIlE ?

nobody needs half the shit they buy now.

i don't have a bunch of money. i don't have a credit card, i don't have any debt, no house payment, no rent to pay, no money saved, no insurance, no cell phone, no phone at all, no cable tv, or sattelite access, or internet access except public. and i am not poor. i have a roof over my head, food to eat, and clean water to drink, and a safe place to sleep.

people are pathetic. if they don't have the above things, they act like the world may end and worry and fret all the time. pathetic.

I agree with this. I wish I could convince my significant other of the same...

I agree with this. I wish I could convince my significant other of the same...

Simple tell yer signicant udder,that unless she stops
spending Peter to Pay Paul,you'll cede to it she wears that
madonna Rubber training bra in public.

This post reminds me of the beginning passage from "Hooking Up" by Tom Wolfe.

Simple tell yer signicant udder,that unless she stops
spending Peter to Pay Paul,you'll cede to it she wears that
madonna Rubber training bra in public.

Haha, I would but she makes (a little!) more money than I do :)

I just heard some startling facts about Today's Poverty.

Frankly, I simply don't believe your supposed "facts".

No harm in wanting a TELEPHONE.

As for the other stuff, here today, gone tomorrow.

Frankly, I simply don't believe your supposed "facts".

I can believe it.I'm literally amazed at the shopping habits
of what look like Poor people.Poor people usually have bad shoes
or really cheap shoes.They don't take care of themselves and
usually are overweight or have bad skin/teeth.
But they still manage to buy all the wrong food.
Instead of Fruits & Veggies,they load up on mega bottles of
Pop and chips,candy,donuts.Stuff that has NO nutritional value
at all.Even if they loaded up on bread & pasta,that has Carb value.
Older folk may not have cell phones or cable,but that has more
to do with being old-fashioned and not like'n electronic stuff.
Old People may live Poor,but usually have Nice nest eggs.
So,they're NOT poor.Just live like they always have,which is
frugal and not spendthrift.
Todays Poor are spendthrifts.If they win a small Lotto or Powerball
they spend on more gambling and stuff they don't need.

I can believe it.I'm literally amazed at the shopping habits
of what look like Poor people.Poor people usually have bad shoes
or really cheap shoes.They don't take care of themselves and
usually are overweight or have bad skin/teeth.
But they still manage to buy all the wrong food.
Instead of Fruits & Veggies,they load up on mega bottles of
Pop and chips,candy,donuts.Stuff that has NO nutritional value
at all.Even if they loaded up on bread & pasta,that has Carb value.


How many more ads do we see in the corporate media for pop, chips, candy, etc. than we do for fruits and veggies?

Thats why.

Frankly, I simply don't believe your supposed "facts".


Equally frankly, who cares. Very few people would expect you to believe any facts that don't fit in with your pre-conceived notions. Your posts says nothing new.

I don't believe the "facts" either, mostly because there was no source provided.

How many more ads do we see in the corporate media for pop, chips, candy, etc. than we do for fruits and veggies?

Thats why.

Oh ! I cede.
So taking Cigarette and Beer commercials off the TV putz a real
dent in demand,eh.?

i don't have a bunch of money. i don't have a credit card, i don't have any debt, no house payment, no rent to pay, no money saved, no insurance, no cell phone, no phone at all, no cable tv, or sattelite access, or internet access except public.

oh man, party at your house!

oh man, party at your house!
...he never said "no beer":drinktoth

...he never said "no beer":drinktoth
Or weed, I bet there's weed. Paaaaaaaaaartay.

I just heard some startling facts about Today's Poverty.
Most of us can attest to what our eye's inform.What we see isn't
far from the real truth.
Today's Poverty isn't what Poor used to be.
I don't have the facts at the ready or the article,but did hear
some distrubing facts about those apparently IN Poverty.
80-85% of those in Poverty have cell phones & Cable hookup.
1 or more TV's.And it's a Colored TV not B & W.A household with
1 or more vehicle.
And going back there's an article about how Wal-Mart CONTRIBUTES to
Poverty.That is almost impossible.Wal-Mart goes out of it's way
to employ those in the Communities it serves.They pay decent wages.
The only way Wal-Mart could " Contribute " to Poverty would be if
Poor customers,BUY way too much at those very reasonable and low
prices.It's tempting to Over-shop at a Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart does eliminate most Mom & Pop stores,but those stores
couldn't possibly employ or pay,with the consistency of a Wal-Mart.

Poverty is part upbringing and part mindset.
Our recent AG { Attorney General } grew up in Poverty.
Read the accounts of his struggles born into poverty.

Okay I see your point. And can agree in some circumstances. The problem with this description of poverty in an affluent society such as ours is first of all, the degree and what one defines as poverty. For instance are you doing a comparison in your head to 3rd world? Or even some of the pictures that are posted here on Haiti. Or should poor be relative to wealth?

The other problem are the hidden poor. Those children who go to school hungry every day while mummy drinks, screws everything that walks, does drugs and calls her dealer on a cell phone.

If you want to get into how Wal-Mart encourages poverty you need to see how off-shore stuff is manufactured for them and the conditions that these people work under. Google it, it's horrific.

Okay I see your point. And can agree in some circumstances. The problem with this description of poverty in an affluent society such as ours is first of all, the degree and what one defines as poverty. For instance are you doing a comparison in your head to 3rd world? Or even some of the pictures that are posted here on Haiti. Or should poor be relative to wealth?

The other problem are the hidden poor. Those children who go to school hungry every day while mummy drinks, screws everything that walks, does drugs and calls her dealer on a cell phone.

If you want to get into how Wal-Mart encourages poverty you need to see how off-shore stuff is manufactured for them and the conditions that these people work under. Google it, it's horrific.

Poverty is a relative term.
What is Poverty in Russia isn't in Haiti.
What is Poverty in the Deep South isn't in the Deep Districts of L.A.
I digress.

Poverty is a relative term.
What is Poverty in Russia isn't in Haiti.
What is Poverty in the Deep South isn't in the Deep Districts of L.A.
I digress.

Exactly so to say someone who has a cell phone and a coloured TV isn't poor is not logical. They may be extremely poor compared to everyone else.

you puke in the house and i have the right to kick you in the head.

Exactly so to say someone who has a cell phone and a coloured TV isn't poor is not logical. They may be extremely poor compared to everyone else.

Someone who is truly Poor has little if any net worth.
They live for essentials,and can't even comtemplate the
added cost of cell phone service and charges.
Poor Literally means having little and struggling.
These poor I see with fattened bodies and walkin around kibitzing
on cell phones,aren't struglling.Their scam'n the system.
Spending what should be disposible income on Powerball and
Cigs and candy,fast food and fun stuff.
Not apples,oranges,milk and socks.Not savings acct.
But ding dongs,the hottest sneakers and funky clothes.
Oh ! and they gots moola fer Tattoo and scuzzy stuff,also.

I don't care if people have cell phones, color televisions, eat steak and lobster and own three cars. Just don't ask me to pay for those things. I believe in everyone having the essentials and I think we have a moral duty to see that people have what is considered a necessity. I feel no moral obligation to pay so that people can have the extras.

I don't care if people have cell phones, color televisions, eat steak and lobster and own three cars. Just don't ask me to pay for those things. I believe in everyone having the essentials and I think we have a moral duty to see that people have what is considered a necessity. I feel no moral obligation to pay so that people can have the extras.

I don't understand that mindset.Where is it written anywhere by
the Founder's that an American Born has a right to essentials.
Where is that notion explained.
Americns have a right to inalienable Rights and hopefully a Mother
and a Farher.Shelter,food,and clothes as a minor.But once an adult,
than ALL Americans have to tow some line.
America certainly wasn't blazed by Pioneer to be a Welfare State
from cradle to Grave.
I'm surprised you have such a cavalier attitude about what
basic responsibility average Americans should have.

I don't understand that mindset.Where is it written anywhere by
the Founder's that an American Born has a right to essentials.
Where is that notion explained.
Americns have a right to inalienable Rights and hopefully a Mother
and a Farher.Shelter,food,and clothes as a minor.But once an adult,
than ALL Americans have to tow some line.
America certainly wasn't blazed by Pioneer to be a Welfare State
from cradle to Grave.
I'm surprised you have such a cavalier attitude about what
basic responsibility average Americans should have.
When you punish the adult, you punish the child.

This also gets into the abortion issue. You can't force a young girl to have a baby and tell her you have to make it on your own with no shelter, no food, and no education, no phone, no TV.

You are looking at this in a vacuum. AND that is why your crime rate is over the top. Because those who can't get, TAKE.

I don't understand that mindset.Where is it written anywhere by
the Founder's that an American Born has a right to essentials.


In the preamble of the US Constitution.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

In the preamble of the US Constitution.

hm, YES!....go Vile :thumbs:

America certainly wasn't blazed by Pioneer to be a Welfare State
.

but remember FOOLsworth. america was basicly stolen and then land speculators sold the land for profit to idiots dumb enough to buy stolen goods. and lots of land is destroyed for generations in various forms of industrialization by corporations with welfare for the rich called subsidization (tax cuts / handouts) and thus jobs.

When you punish the adult, you punish the child.

This also gets into the abortion issue. You can't force a young girl to have a baby and tell her you have to make it on your own with no shelter, no food, and no education, no phone, no TV.

You are looking at this in a vacuum. AND that is why your crime rate is over the top. Because those who can't get, TAKE.

When a Parent no longer meets their responsibility to care for
their offspring,they go to Court and face a fine and jail time
and the Kids are handed over to either responsible relatives or
for adoption or an orphanage.
A lot of Good Americans came from Orphanages.
Yes,an Adult SHOULD be punished for not caring to the needs of
a child.
I also know that Hillary wants Americans to believe,that merely putting
her in charge as President will indubitably Guarantee a more suitable
and comfortable America for all those in need.
Every American will now have Hospitalization and opportunity to
have a college education.
Her Village will care for ALL.
But that is fundementally Flawed.No one American { President }
or mindset has ever,or will ever,Guarantee anything beyond
reason.Like Katrina.The 9th ward is still a mess.Probably because
of the mindset of those,who aren't motivated to get off their own
keister and fix the problem.Plus it's BELOW sea level,and isn't
feasible for repair w/o an entire New Levee system,which would run
in the neighborhood of $30-65 Billion.
New Orleaneans Voted back an Incompetent Democrat Pol in
mayor Nagin,who has yet to determine how his city should be rebuilt.
Nagin has stalled and stopped development projects because of his
Chocolate city Politics.

In the preamble of the US Constitution.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

" Promote " ... not Provide,thar Dumbass.

hm, YES!....go Vile :thumbs:

Go...My keister.
America PROMOTES Lots stuff.
Advertisement is one big Promote.
To help to establish a General Welfare for Citizens is a far
cry from actually providing.
A Parent HAS to Provide for a Child.
Does a Parent merely Promote for a Child's needs.
There...Again,I just proved how lackadaisically looney udders herein are.
And continual ta Bee.

rich people should be grateful for welfare. their is only so much money, and so many jobs. and their is a large portion called the working poor, who do have job, or jobs but still need assistance. this welfare keeps hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich peoples houses down.

rich people should be grateful for welfare. their is only so much money, and so many jobs. and their is a large portion called the working poor, who do have job, or jobs but still need assistance. this welfare keeps hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich peoples houses down.


In this country, when a group of people get really angry, they are more likely to burn their own neighborhood(s), than they are those of others. At least that is what history shows us.

rich people should be grateful for welfare. their is only so much money, and so many jobs. and their is a large portion called the working poor, who do have job, or jobs but still need assistance. this welfare keeps hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich peoples houses down.

Your entire premise that there is only so much money and so many jobs is wrong, primitive man. Money and jobs are not zero sum. If one person has money and/or a job that does not mean some other person has either less money or no job. Jobs and money are constantly being created. Welfare does not keep hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich people's houses down. The poor will always be vastly outnumbered by the rich and middle class who would be able to put down any such behavior. The only time there would be the revolt of which you are speaking is if it was led by the middle class. The poor without the middle class are powerless.

Besides, in the United States and most countries of the West the poor need not always remain poor. There is great social and economic mobility in free societies. Poor become middle class or even wealthy and wealthy become middle class or even poor. If you look at the ranks of the wealthy you will find that the vast majority of them did not inherit their wealth but earned it.

Welfare is not a program designed to keep the poor from rebelling but rather a program of compassion designed to assist the poor. Those on welfare should not have the same amenities as those who are wealthy or members of the middle class. They should have the necessities but not the frills that come with having more money. This lack of the extras is what impells them to work hard and leave the ranks of the poor. If you are provided with a color tv, a cell phone, a car, hundred dollar sneakers, etc. what incentive is there to work. It is always easier to sit around and be given stuff than to wake up early in the morning, go out into the cold and go to work for a full day.

Welfare should be temporary assistance to those who happen to be down and out not a way of life.

Your entire premise that there is only so much money and so many jobs is wrong, primitive man. Money and jobs are not zero sum. If one person has money and/or a job that does not mean some other person has either less money or no job. Jobs and money are constantly being created. Welfare does not keep hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich people's houses down. The poor will always be vastly outnumbered by the rich and middle class who would be able to put down any such behavior. The only time there would be the revolt of which you are speaking is if it was led by the middle class. The poor without the middle class are powerless.

Besides, in the United States and most countries of the West the poor need not always remain poor. There is great social and economic mobility in free societies. Poor become middle class or even wealthy and wealthy become middle class or even poor. If you look at the ranks of the wealthy you will find that the vast majority of them did not inherit their wealth but earned it.

Welfare is not a program designed to keep the poor from rebelling but rather a program of compassion designed to assist the poor. Those on welfare should not have the same amenities as those who are wealthy or members of the middle class. They should have the necessities but not the frills that come with having more money. This lack of the extras is what impells them to work hard and leave the ranks of the poor. If you are provided with a color tv, a cell phone, a car, hundred dollar sneakers, etc. what incentive is there to work. It is always easier to sit around and be given stuff than to wake up early in the morning, go out into the cold and go to work for a full day.

Welfare should be temporary assistance to those who happen to be down and out not a way of life.


Is IS and generally ALWAYS has been a Liberal advantage to
Promote to Society in NEED of assistance.But assistance should not
be a Lifestyle,but rather merely a " safety net ".
Republicans aren't against a " safety net ".That's what F.D.R.
New Deal and Social Security was all about.SS was to be a supplement
in one's senior years.Not a wholly retirement plan.
Liberals Profit politically when a populace feels it isn't being
taken care of.Like New Orleans and Haley Barber's Mississippi.
Mississippians saw to it there Katrina hit { the eye of Katrina swept
thru the state } was remedyied and fixed.They weren't sittin around
like mud on a stump,waiting for Godot.
Theres a good lesson there.
Some Folk just aren't American enough.
They'd ruther stew in their empty pot than git the fixings for
a really jazzy gumbo.

Your entire premise that there is only so much money and so many jobs is wrong, primitive man. Money and jobs are not zero sum. If one person has money and/or a job that does not mean some other person has either less money or no job. Jobs and money are constantly being created. Welfare does not keep hungry people from getting really pissed off and burning rich people's houses down. The poor will always be vastly outnumbered by the rich and middle class who would be able to put down any such behavior. The only time there would be the revolt of which you are speaking is if it was led by the middle class. The poor without the middle class are powerless.

Besides, in the United States and most countries of the West the poor need not always remain poor. There is great social and economic mobility in free societies. Poor become middle class or even wealthy and wealthy become middle class or even poor. If you look at the ranks of the wealthy you will find that the vast majority of them did not inherit their wealth but earned it.

Welfare is not a program designed to keep the poor from rebelling but rather a program of compassion designed to assist the poor. Those on welfare should not have the same amenities as those who are wealthy or members of the middle class. They should have the necessities but not the frills that come with having more money. This lack of the extras is what impells them to work hard and leave the ranks of the poor. If you are provided with a color tv, a cell phone, a car, hundred dollar sneakers, etc. what incentive is there to work. It is always easier to sit around and be given stuff than to wake up early in the morning, go out into the cold and go to work for a full day.

Welfare should be temporary assistance to those who happen to be down and out not a way of life.



oh yeah. i forgot. cell phones, tv, and the net keep an awful lot of people distracted from reality.

the middle class is falling. the rich balance of the bent back of those who are retarded enough to do it and smile, and eat a shit sandwich.

watch people freak and unplug the drug.
watch people freak.