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16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the Beast or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the Beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six (666). (Revelation 13:16-18

"I was in one meeting where it was discussed, How can you control a people if you cannot identify them? People like Henry Kissinger and CIA folk attended these meetings.

"As we developed this microchip, as the identification chip became the focal point, there were several things that were wanted. They wanted a name and an image (picture of your face), Social Security number with the international digits on it, finger print identification, physical description, family history, address, occupation, income tax information and criminal record.

we've been in seventeen "One World" meetings where this has been discussed, meetings in Brussels, Luxembourg, tying together the finances of the world.

There are bills before Congress right now that will allow them to inject a microchip in your child at the time of birth for identification purposes. The President of the United States of America, under the Emigration Control Act of 1986, Section 100, has the authority to deem whatever type of identification is necessary whether it be an invisible tattoo or electronic media under the skin. So I think you have to look at the facts, folks: this is not coming as some big shock. The paving has been done ahead of time!"

Thats why we are putting chips into our dogs, so we can find out what they are doing. I think they found a secret base where dogs rule, and are plotting to take over the world , and get rid of cats. Keep an eye on your cats, the next time you see a dog chasing it, it is probably the start of the rise up of the K9

Originally posted by justice432
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/microchip_and_mark.html

16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the Beast or the number of his name.
.................................The President of the United States of America, under the Emigration Control Act of 1986, Section 100, has the authority to deem whatever type of identification is necessary whether it be an invisible tattoo or electronic media under the skin. I think you have to look at the facts, folks: this is not coming as some big shock. The paving has been done ahead of time!"

To be consistent with the mythology [IOW, that Bronze Age tome known as "the Bible"] that you are promoting here, these "chips" that you fret so mightily over need to be implanted into the right hand or the forehead of humans.

If your source of so-called "prophecy" were coming from some omniscient, omnipotent source, why wouldn't that "all-knowing" source have predicted exactly what form future implantations would take??

Where is your evidence ---ANY evidence whatsoever-- that such implantation into the right hand or the forehead is being carried out or even considered?

Originally posted by Freethinker
Where is your evidence ---ANY evidence whatsoever-- that such implantation into the right hand or the forehead is being carried out or even considered?

just do a google search on chip implants to find information. You are probably the only person that thinks this is not true even though it has been reported many times on the news.

only a matter of when.

Originally posted by justice432
You are probably the only person that thinks this is not true even though it has been reported many times on the news.

Make that two people.

Originally posted by justice432
just do a google search on chip implants to find information. You are probably the only person that thinks this is not true even though it has been reported many times on the news....only a matter of when.

I agree that chip implantation may well take place at some future date.

But the religionists/superstitionists are claiming it will be implanted into the **right hand or the forehead**.

The source that you are referencing that makes this prediction specifically states that the mark will be on the **right hand or forehead**

Those promoting such a scenario as fact and not fiction should have reams of evidence proving that such implantation into the right hand or the forehead is being carried out.

Where is your evidence?

Do you have a single source that states that implantations into the right hand or forehead are taking place???????........I didn't think so.

Originally posted by Freethinker

Those promoting such a scenario as fact and not fiction should have reams of evidence proving that such implantation into the right hand or the forehead is being carried out.


The Bible states that the beast will force everyone in the world to get the mark. Obviously nobody has forced anything on us...YET.

the technology we see today could verywell lead to the mark of the beast.

Who said that this is a "scratch" or "splotch" that everyone can see in order to determine who's of the beast?

To be perfectly consistent with Scripture, I think you are taking the text too literally:
It says that the mark will be on the foreheads and right hands of all who follow the beast. The forehead can be interpreted as total intellectual acceptance of and alligiance to the Beast: what he does, who he is, his intentions. The right hand symbolizes a working acceptance, where people devote their money or energy into the beast's ruling mechanism without a total intellectual forfeiture. I don't think technology has anything to do with it. Stop living the Matrix, people.

I also believe that, according to the text, the Beast will not be so outright in saying who he really is. In other words, he will act in a subtle manner to rule the world.

Originally posted by psamtik071
To be perfectly consistent with Scripture, I think you are taking the text too literally:
It says that the mark will be on the foreheads and right hands of all who follow the beast. The forehead can be interpreted as total intellectual acceptance of and alligiance to the Beast:

you need to analyze it better. How can the beast enforce not allowing anyone to buy or sell without his mark if according to you it is just "intellectual acceptance"

how is the guy on a store supposed to know you have pledged allegiance to the best if this is just intellectual allegiance? unless he can read your mind. For the prophecy to work there needs to be a mark that shows you have pledged your soul to the beast.

I think the web must have brought the end of the world closer. If it wasn't for all those loony websites then it would be business as usual.

you need to analyze it better. How can the beast enforce not allowing anyone to buy or sell without his mark if according to you it is just "intellectual acceptance"

how is the guy on a store supposed to know you have pledged allegiance to the best if this is just intellectual allegiance? unless he can read your mind. For the prophecy to work there needs to be a mark that shows you have pledged your soul to the beast.


Yeah, like a political entity like the Beast can read people's minds. A more realistic alternative is military enforement or intellectual persuation. I didn't say that people can't be forced to accept the Beast and then contribute to its power. That is what "marks" people to the Beast, an acceptance of the beast's power.

There are many ways of doing this. They can enforce a national/international day of worship or a set of regulations that stipulates allegiance to the Beast (that includes business licenses). Take Nazi Germany as an example. How were the S.S. officers able to differentiate Jews from full-blooded Germans? Their religion (the Star of David patches came later). Since the Jews worshipped on Saturday and not on Sunday like the rest of Germany, they were easily pointed out and boycotted against. Another method is a form of membership card (like Visa or Mastercard) that citizens of the new political order must obtain in order to transact business interchanges. But the card itself is not the mark, is merely a symbol of allegiance. Thus the verse that explains that those without the mark won't be able to buy or sell can be fulfilled.

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