...Santa??? (Don't worry, it's not a... burning issue...)

Santa who

Uh, I fergit... Lemmee go back and read the... clause...

tell me if it's good or bad

One fact I learned in Viet Nam: in a land with not even a word for snow, Santa still shows up at Christmas. So what is snow for?

So what is snow for... uh, snow jobs??? Sorry fer the... flaky... answer... if ya catch my... drift...


Time fer me ta scoot... I see icy stares... ;)

What is snow for? Snowmen and snowwomen. How do you tell the difference?............Snow men have snowballs

Santa Claus is a fairy tale for children.

Jesus is a fairy tale for (gullible and/or ignorant and/or willfully blind) adults.

Jesus may well be a fairy tale, or he may well have existed. We will probably never know. I can say with relative certainty, however, that Jesus was not resurrected and did not have a virgin for a mother.

Originally posted by Freethinker
Santa Claus is a fairy tale for children.

Jesus is a fairy tale for (gullible and/or ignorant and/or willfully blind) adults.
Just like the evolution theory is a faire tale for scientists. And acceptance into a civilized, rational society can only be a faire tale for atheists.

See there… I can be just as immature as you. Nothing special about it :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Mopoloton
Just like the evolution theory is a faire tale for scientists...See there…I can be just as immature as you.

If you consider the theory of evolution to be a "faire tale", then I can assure you that you have few equals in terms of immaturity........or ignorance.

If you don’t believe in Jesus, then I KNOW you have no equals in terms of ignorance. And you prove in every one of your posts that maturity is beyond your grasp.

Originally posted by Mopoloton
If you don’t believe in Jesus, then I KNOW you have no equals in terms of ignorance.

Actually, Mopoloton, the historicity of the "Jesus" character is HIGHLY suspect.

My extensive research into the question leads me ---and many other people capable of rational thought--- to the inescapable conclusion that this "Jesus" fellow is an invention, with NO basis in reality.

http://humanists.net/jesuspuzzle/preamble.htm

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/m_m_mangasarian/truth_about_jesus.html

Originally posted by Mopoloton
If you don’t believe in Jesus, then I KNOW you have no equals in terms of ignorance.

Ignorant for not believing something that no proof to support it? That is an interesting concept.

It appears to me that all of your “research” came from the Internet; not the most reliable source in the world. Search the net long enough and you can find several so-called scholars saying what YOU want them to say.

The events of Jesus’ time were recorded in scriptures and passed down from one generation to the next, this is why he is remembered by everyone over 2000 years afterward. How many historical figures can you think of with that kind of recognition?

Ceaser, Herc., Santa Claus, Easter bunny, Boogie man, Merlin, Satan, Adam and Eve, Noah, David and Goliath, Dragons, sea monsters....................

Buddha, Cleopatra, King Tut, Moses, .....

Originally posted by Mopoloton
And acceptance into a civilized, rational society can only be a faire tale for atheists.



what's that mean? explain...please....

Originally posted by es347fan
Budda, Cleopatra, King Tut, Moses, .....
I don’t understand exactly who “Budda” is supposed to be; didn’t someone on this forum say Buddhists don’t believe in a divine entity?
Originally posted by sputnic
what's that mean? explain...please....

I only posted that to spite Freethinker; there’s something about that guy that I just don’t like.

Mopo take him(freethinker) down to the corner hospital parking lot and beat his a** :D :D

Originally posted by mad dog
Mopo take him(freethinker) down to the corner hospital parking lot and beat his a**

is he gonna be able to do that after that bear dismembers him? (Sorry, I still can't get over that:))

Originally posted by Mopoloton
I don’t understand exactly who “Budda” is supposed to be; didn’t someone on this forum say Buddhists don’t believe in a divine entity?


One more "Monopolitonism".

Buddha, whose real name was Siddharta Gautama, was an Indian prince who lived during the sixth century BC. He was a great thinker and philosopher and his doctrine, known as "Buddhism", is considered as a religion since it believes in the surviving of the soul, even if it does not imply the existence of a god.

It does not matter what Buddha believed, fact is, his name is known today, over 2000 years following his death.

Originally posted by es347fan
It does not matter what Budda believed, fact is, his name is known today, over 2000 years following his death.
Except it's spelled with an "H", Buddha. Guess it isn't as well-known as we once thought? :D

/spelling Nazi

All right, SA, I've fixed it.

Ah… so, that fat bald statue is actually a sculpture of Prince Siddharta Gautama. Is that what he REALLY looked like? And why do I always hear the words “Buddha God” when people refer to that statue?

Originally posted by mad dog
Mopo take him(freethinker) down to the corner hospital parking lot and beat his a** :D :D
:D :DThat’s a very, VERY good idea. Tell Freethinker to check himself in so I can add another hit to my list.:D :D

Yeah, a Buddha statue looks as much like the real individual as much as any statue displaying Hey-zeus as a white boy looks like the actual individual.

Originally posted by Mopoloton
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I only posted that to spite Freethinker; there’s something about that guy that I just don’t like.

oh, uh, sorry to interrupt your little, uh, catfight thingy there. does seem a bit of a low blow, though...not that i'm siding myself with freethinker...

Originally posted by sputnik
oh, uh, sorry to interrupt your little, uh, catfight thingy there. does seem a bit of a low blow, though...not that i'm siding myself with freethinker...
Ain’t nothin’ wrong with an occasional low blow now and again, especially when you’re able to get away with it. Cheap shots keep life interesting.

wow, another religious debate turned into a shouting match between men... c'mon guys, WWJD? :)

How did we get onto all of this, I thought that this was all about Santa???

Santa who? You are very new if you expect the members here to stay on topic for any length of time.
Nice of you to remind us though.

George Carlin is one of the funniest fools out there, don't ya agree?

but he looks.. nothing like santa...

He could be one of the mischievous elves though.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mopoloton
[B]Just like the evolution theory is a faire tale for scientists. And acceptance into a civilized, rational society can only be a faire tale for atheists.

Very interesting theory you have created, but by saying all beliefs are fairy tales you are basically saying that our lives are a bunch of fairy tales since we base our lives on our beliefs which according to Monopoly, all beliefs are fairy tales.

About the Santa thing he is a fairy tale, but wait a minute according to Monopoly Santa is as real as our beliefs.

Me I think that was very interesting and will give us something to talk about in another topic, right now I got to get my own opinions in here before you all think I'm converting from christianity.

I pretend to believe in Santa just to keep my brothers and sisters happy.

About the Santa thing he is a fairy tale, but wait a minute according to Monopoly Santa is as real as our beliefs.
There is as much evidence on Earth today for the existence of Santa Claus as there is evidence for the existence of God. More in fact, because of the commercialization of Xmas.

For the Christians Santa was real in 230 something AD. He went under the name Saint Nicholas. So infact there is just as much if not more proof of there being a Santa then there is of Jesus.

Originally posted by mad dog
For the Christians Santa was real in 230 something AD. He went under the name Saint Nicholas. So infact there is just as much if not more proof of there being a Santa then there is of Jesus.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

Thanks Borg

Originally posted by BorgHunter
There is as much evidence on Earth today for the existence of Santa Claus as there is evidence for the existence of God. More in fact, because of the commercialization of Xmas.
There’s actually more proof of God than there is of evolution, but that’s an ENTIRELY different topic, so I’m not going to elaborate any further.

Originally posted by Mopoloton
There’s actually more proof of God than there is of evolution, but that’s an ENTIRELY different topic, so I’m not going to elaborate any further.
All right, Mopo, show us your "proof" of God then.

Go read the rapture thread, supposedly there is scientific proof of satan and hell.

Why hasn't the media ran with these stories???????????

Originally posted by BorgHunter
All right, Mopo, show us your "proof" of God then.
Look in the “serious debate on the existence of god” thread and you’ll never have questions again. I stopped posting there because it seems to have broken out into a shouting match, but I said what I needed to.

Originally posted by Mopoloton
Look in the “serious debate on the existence of god” thread and you’ll never have questions again. I stopped posting there because it seems to have broken out into a shouting match, but I said what I needed to.
I refuted you, and yet you still tout these things as "proof". Proof, irrefutable proof is what I want, not "Well the brain is complex and that's a sign of higher intelligence blah blah blah".

Originally posted by Mopoloton

The events of Jesus’ time were recorded in scriptures and passed down from one generation to the next, this is why he is remembered by everyone over 2000 years afterward.

Don't you find it curious that the bible is the ONLY place that jesus is mentioned?

Of all the contemporary Greek and Roman writers, scholars, politicians and soldiers whose writings have survived, and describe their travels in Judea at the "time of Christ", NOT ONE of them mentions anyone named Jesus or talks about the events described in the Bible. Their is NO proof other than the Bible to prove that the man described in the Bible ever existed.

Don't you find it curious that the bible is the ONLY place that jesus is mentioned?
Not true. Why, because, to your second paragraph, I have read a few. They are few and far between. Largest reason might be because Jesus is a Greek name, and his Jewish name I can't quite remember off the top of my head right now. But outside the bible, you are somewhat correct, there is very little.

Jesus real guy (maybe)

Bible bestselling fiction (yup)

Originally posted by BorgHunter
I refuted you, and yet you still tout these things as "proof". Proof, irrefutable proof is what I want, not "Well the brain is complex and that's a sign of higher intelligence blah blah blah".
Well, just what would you consider to be “irrefutable proof?” I think those posts about the brain & the eye are good, solid arguments.

Since this Santa Claus thread got hijacked into a Jesus thread, I might as well add my 2 cents. I believe Jesus is very real, and everyone has a right to their own opinion as to if he's real or not.

What I want to know is how can those deer fly?

Originally posted by Mopoloton
Well, just what would you consider to be “irrefutable proof?” I think those posts about the brain & the eye are good, solid arguments.
Not this indirect evidence crap, direct evidence, like God showing himself at Halftime in Super Bowl XXXVIII, or Jesus Christ floating down from the sky, or hellfire and brimstone coming down. Not very likely, huh? So thus, there is no proof and it is a matter of faith.

LOL Mad Dog, are you referring to Santa's reindeer?

only the most magical of "magic cupcakes" could get those reindeer to fly!

M&M

ya i was asking about the reindeer :)

silverbulletkc

I've heard of folks flying on brownies but not cupcakes :)

Borg

years ago God did show herself at a game in front of thousands, Rosanne Barr sang the anthem :D :D What more proof do you need

Originally posted by BorgHunter
Not this indirect evidence crap, direct evidence, like God showing himself at Halftime in Super Bowl XXXVIII, or Jesus Christ floating down from the sky, or hellfire and brimstone coming down. Not very likely, huh? So thus, there is no proof and it is a matter of faith.
So the second coming is the only thing that will convince you, huh? Well, none of us here on earth can make that happen, but it will eventually. I still think you’re not open-minded enough about this subject; I mean, I didn’t actually SEE monkeys evolve into men, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…does it?

Perhaps you have monkey's genes in your ancestry, mopo.

Originally posted by mad dog

years ago God did show herself at a game in front of thousands, Rosanne Barr sang the anthem :D :D What more proof do you need Actually, im more inclined to think that Rosanne Barr and her rendition of the anthem strengthened atheists beliefs that there is no God. :D

Actually, we all have monkey genes. Humans are the highest form of animals, and God was in the making of the beginning of animals, (including humans). Humans are the most intelligent form of animals, with Apes second, monkeys third, and so on down the line. A lot of people refuse to think that humans are animals, but there are only two forms of living things, and that's plants and animals. We are not plants, so we must be animals. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by es347fan
Perhaps you have monkey's genes in your ancestry, mopo. You should know Es, you’re a lot closer to the prehistoric age than I am.:D

Humans are the highest form of animals
Oh bullshit.

but there are only two forms of living things, and that's plants and animals. We are not plants, so we must be animals.
Well actually there are 7 kingdoms currently... or was it jumped up to nine?

well I'm not human or animal I'm an a** :D