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This may be the most viscious pit bull story I've heard yet. Two pit bulls came into a person's home through a dog door and attacked a lady while she was sleeping.

As for pit bulls generally, I think these dogs should be banned from urban environments.

I've known three owners of pit bulls in my life, two of whom acknowledge that their dogs have attacked and killed other pets. The third was peppersprayed by a postman for unknown reasons.

I also used to work for a government entity that dealt with dog attacks. There are a LOT more of these attacks then people realize. But most don't result in serious injuries or involved killed/maimed pets. I will also say that the majority, and I would estimate a strong majority (around 70%) of these cases involved a pit bull. Frankly, it disgusted me how frequently these things happened, even before I take into account the frequent lack of remorse by the dog owners.

And what's particularly concerning is that their popularity as pets seems to be growing. No one should be placed at risk of being attacked by a wild animal in the city, particularly when the animal serves no function but to serve as a pet. Hell, people shouldn't even have to fear these dogs.

These dogs need to be banned from densely populated areas, period.

Agreed. Although I met a woman online who runs a Pit Bull rescue operation and she swears they're only mean if bred to be mean. I'm a dog lover, but not too sure I swallow that line.

:)
SMW

Agreed. Although I met a woman online who runs a Pit Bull rescue operation and she swears they're only mean if bred to be mean. I'm a dog lover, but not too sure I swallow that line.


Yeah, all three of the owners (all very peaceful individuals themselves, btw) I knew served up similar BS. Apparently, they don't think the incidents I mentioned were "mean." And just for the record, I too love dogs, and animals generally.

My big sis, lifelong dog lover, thought she'd disprove the idea that pit bulls are inherently vicious.

She hand raised a fine specimen from babyhood, even feeding it by a bottle on the hour.

It grew into a friendly, happy dog, and repaid her devotion by one day, while she was at work, attacking and killing her elderly black Lab and then viciously mauling her husband's arm when he tried to corral the creature.

They are vicious, dumb dugs; ugly too. Why anyone wants to keep them as pets is beyond me. You cannot make pets of them.

Ugly is right. Too bad about your sister's experience. What did they end up doing with the dog?

The sad part about pit bulls is the breed.Once a highly respected
and quite noble breed has been relegated to meaness.
There's a Movie about the once grand breed.-- It's a Dogs Life -- {1955}
The problem with Pit Bull Terriers is once they have a
bad puppyhood,it stays with them.
They should not be put up for adoption.

Once a Pit Bull has learned to rip and tear, as
a puppy to lunge and rip at big ham bones or certain pet
toys,then their inner instinct to do that will always be just one
step away from happening.I perfectly docile and mannered pit
bull,if exposed to any rip & Tear activity as a puppy,may some day
decide to do just that with a baby.It has even happened.
Also any Puppy whose parents have a checkered or bad history
wil be passed down from one generation to next.
A Pit Bull secrets some kind of glandular activity which causes them to
lock their jaws in battle.Therefore many a Pit will have to have cold
or hot water thrown at them,if locked-on to a victim.

Ugly is right. Too bad about your sister's experience. What did they end up doing with the dog?

It was destroyed, SMW, but the black Lab received a nice funeral complete with flowers and burial in the backyard.

Class will tell. :eek:

almost all pit bulls come from animals that were bred for the specific purpose of being killers. it would take some time to go through the process of culling out the mean ones, and those born in the future that have the killer instinct. cull means, kill them.

almost all pit bulls come from animals that were bred for the specific purpose of being killers. Exactly. Mike Vick, et al, weren't working with pugs, ya know.

Exactly. Mike Vick, et al, weren't working with pugs, ya know.
Mike Vick is a walking piece of shit.

Oh, and Pugs (although rather girly) are the BEST dogs on the planet. I dated a girl for 3 years who bought one, I ended up raising it myself, and when we broke up, she wound up getting pregnant (not mine, btw - :woohoo:), so (as a favor) she called me to take him. Hell, I love that dog more than my brother.

My guess is that it would take 3 or more generations of pit bulls raised without violence before one of the eventual offspring might be trusted not to attack without provocation.

Well there are people who keep bobcats, pythons, or alligators as pets. Should all these be banned as well?

Well there are people who keep bobcats, pythons, or alligators as pets. Should all these be banned as well?
Yes, well, at least I think so.

My guess is that it would take 3 or more generations of pit bulls raised without violence before one of the eventual offspring might be trusted not to attack without provocation.
I didn't mention this earlier, but a Pit Bull recently killed my neighbor's Chihuahua (a few months back, that is). I can't believe people still purchase ‘em. They're dumb, not friendly, and generally, a liability. I've noticed that they're VERY popular with black people. That's just a personal observation.

Well there are people who keep bobcats, pythons, or alligators as pets. Should all these be banned as well?
Those aren't treated like friendly animals, and kept away from other animals. Owners of pit bulls tend to think of them as just another dog, and don't expect them to attack others.

I've noticed that they're VERY popular with black people. That's just a personal observation.
You remind me of my father... He's convinced that I can't get a good education at a college with more than 50% black students, like some of the ones I'm considering transferring to are. We had a big fight about it, and now my main school choice is 86% white. :rolleyes:

Well there are people who keep bobcats, pythons, or alligators as pets. Should all these be banned as well?

I think many places do ban the ownership of wild animals. For instance, I seriously doubt you can walk down the streets of any major metropolitan area with a alligator or bobcat on a leash.

As for pythons, I've never heard of a case in the U.S. where a python has killed, or even hurt someone.

Agreed. Although I met a woman online who runs a Pit Bull rescue operation and she swears they're only mean if bred to be mean. I'm a dog lover, but not too sure I swallow that line.

:)
SMW

I agree with her. If you are going to get a Bull Terrier, or any related breed, make sure you know the breeder and examine dogs from previous litters.
Prospective owners should also be aware that Bull Terriers and the related breeds, also Dobermans, Shepherds, Great Danes, etc., need proper training and social training as very young pups. These breeds have dominant type characteristics that the owners must learn how to channel correctly. That's not to say other breeds do not have similar characteristics, but, as has been posted, nobody gets killed by a bite from a small dog.
To summarize, some dogs are bred to be mean. In other cases the owners are at fault they got a breed they did not know how to control.

Those are good points.

The Presario dogs that killed the young woman in San Fran several years ago, and whose owners both re'c prison sentences, were widely known to be out of control. Neighbors told of attacks on both themselves and their own dogs. The Presarios would not obey even simple commands and dragged their "handlers" around like puppets. In truth, I believe they were scared of their own dogs.

We've had German Shepherds for years and we understand the importance of teaching this breed, and others like them, who the boss is in the household. At some point, ususally in young adolescence, the dog will challenge your authority, sometimes "play" attacking--somewhat like a young wolf will do to the pack leader. They need to be put in their place immediately and harshly or the attacks will continue, and worsen in severity.

A dog that's running the household is not a happy dog.They enjoy obeying but must be taught who the boss is!

You remind me of my father... He's convinced that I can't get a good education at a college with more than 50% black students, like some of the ones I'm considering transferring to are. We had a big fight about it, and now my main school choice is 86% white. :rolleyes:

Well, it sounds like you already know that's bullshit...but I go to a school that's probably 85-90% black and I've enjoyed it. I've found that the students there care a lot more about school than the students at Cleveland State. (more expensive and larger school) It creates a better classroom atmosphere.

i don't get why people want a pitbull. it must be the social thingy of being feirce don't fuck with me mentality. there are too many cases of these dogs just up and attacking people for no reason at all. even when they have not been mistreated or taught to be attackers.

i had the wolf thing for awhile. i had a part wolf/dog. she was very smart, gentle with us, but she was unpredictable around kids with rollar skates, bicycles, or skateboards. don't know why. we had her put down. it was for the best. she would not stay in a house. even when the temp dropped below 0 degrees F. and i could not bear to tie her up all the time.

one of her siblings, a very large male who weighed 80 pounds at 8 months old tore me a new asshole (just an expression) one day. and this after spending a week at my house. he knew i was not a threat. but the wild thing came out and he snapped. tore my hands up, some places down to the bone. i would never recommend wolf hybrids as pets. wolves belong in the wild and not crossed with a dog and kept as a pet.

alligators? snakes? well, these things are kept in pens or cages and have almost no chances of wandering about. no problem.

[QUOTE=rendova]Those are good points.

The Presario dogs that killed the young woman in San Fran several years ago, and whose owners both re'c prison sentences, were widely known to be out of control. Neighbors told of attacks on both themselves and their own dogs. The Presarios would not obey even simple commands and dragged their "handlers" around like puppets. In truth, I believe they were scared of their own dogs.

We've had German Shepherds for years and we understand the importance of teaching this breed, and others like them, who the boss is in the household. At some point, ususally in young adolescence, the dog will challenge your authority, sometimes "play" attacking--somewhat like a young wolf will do to the pack leader. They need to be put in their place immediately and harshly or the attacks will continue, and worsen in severity.
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Oh ! Ya meanie like what SMW is tryin to teach all the fellars,round
hears.That SHE's the boss lady and that's all there is to it.

I agree with her. If you are going to get a Bull Terrier, or any related breed, make sure you know the breeder and examine dogs from previous litters.
Prospective owners should also be aware that Bull Terriers and the related breeds, also Dobermans, Shepherds, Great Danes, etc., need proper training and social training as very young pups. These breeds have dominant type characteristics that the owners must learn how to channel correctly. That's not to say other breeds do not have similar characteristics, but, as has been posted, nobody gets killed by a bite from a small dog.
To summarize, some dogs are bred to be mean. In other cases the owners are at fault they got a breed they did not know how to control.
Absolutely. Specific breeds have specific temperments. German shepards can be very unpredictable if not raised right and they have size and strength on their side. Only dog bite I've ever suffered was from a white GS who was chained up. He came running up to me, wagging his tail, and I petted him on the head... just before he lunged at me, knocking me down and sinking his teeth into my thigh. I've never been so scared in my life! Also dispelled that ole rumor (in my mind anyway) that a dog won't bite you if you don't show them any fear. I had no fear of him until AFTER he attacked me!!

Also had a Siberian Husky once. Most beautiful dog ever... and very loyal and loving to us. But he was hell around other dogs. It wasn't safe to let him out without a leash because he'd chase down and try to kill any other dog who came close to his 'territory.'

I just stick to Heinz 57 mutts nowdays. I think in many cases, they're smarter and more loving than many purebreds, have fewer health problems and make better all-round pets.

*woof woof*

:)
SMW

ours now is a rescued dog. he was abused at the last place he lived. part border collie and part english springer spaniel. took awhile for him to realize i wouldn't hurt him. he had no problem with the wife and kids. apparently it was a man who abused him. when he realized i wouldn't hurt him he started following me around everywhere. wants to ride in the truck or car with me, goes for canoe rides. and will sleep next to me in the bedroom. always there.
buds.

I've been bitten twice, both times as a youngster.. Neither were pets. One I kicked until he let go and the other I beat with a book. Both times infuriated me. The dogs were damn sorry!

I've been bitten twice, both times as a youngster.. Neither were pets. One I kicked until he let go and the other I beat with a book. Both times infuriated me. The dogs were damn sorry!
I can relate, Ren. I literally wanted to KILL the dog that bit me. Never felt that way about any animal before. Not only that, but for about a year after, I'd be walking down the beach or someplace out in the open and I'd see a dog frolicking closeby and FREEZE in terror! Fortunately, that feeling went away with time.

ours now is a rescued dog. he was abused at the last place he lived. part border collie and part english springer spaniel. took awhile for him to realize i wouldn't hurt him. he had no problem with the wife and kids. apparently it was a man who abused him. when he realized i wouldn't hurt him he started following me around everywhere. wants to ride in the truck or car with me, goes for canoe rides. and will sleep next to me in the bedroom. always there.
buds.
I think those dogs make the best buds, PM. It's nearly like they 'appreciate' having a good home. (Too bad some of the lefties 'round here don't seem capable of learning that lesson.)

;)
SMW

It's lucky you got over your fear, SMW. I know a few folks who've had bad run-ins with dogs, and it's affected them in a bad way the rest of their lives--esp if it happens to them as a youngster.

My little sis was bitten twice within a one week time span when she was about 6 or so. One was our own dog, a German shepherd who was sick and she was pestering him, the other was our neighbor's dog, a bad-tempered shepherd who bit her when she leaned over the fence to try to pet him.

She has never gotten over her fear of dogs and actually hates them!

It's lucky you got over your fear, SMW. I know a few folks who've had bad run-ins with dogs, and it's affected them in a bad way the rest of their lives--esp if it happens to them as a youngster.

My little sis was bitten twice within a one week time span when she was about 6 or so. One was our own dog, a German shepherd who was sick and she was pestering him, the other was our neighbor's dog, a bad-tempered shepherd who bit her when she leaned over the fence to try to pet him.

She has never gotten over her fear of dogs and actually hates them!
I work with a lady like your little sis. She's absolutely TERRIFIED of dogs. And guess who's the latest employee to join our group? Yep... a blind guy and his guidedog. She won't even come into staff meetings until they're both in their places (BG at the table, dog under the table). I tried to tell her even if he wasn't a guidedog, Golden Retrievers are the least likely dog to bite anybody -- but she wasn't buying it. I feel sorry for her... that's really a tough burden to live with.

Maybe exposure to this situation will help her some. Let's hope.

You remind me of my father... He's convinced that I can't get a good education at a college with more than 50% black students, like some of the ones I'm considering transferring to are. We had a big fight about it, and now my main school choice is 86% white. :rolleyes:
Interesting way to connect the dots there, DF. I said nothing of the sort.

You're prone to a better education at a better school, period. Now, whether or not 50% (or more) of the student body at said "better" school are black, well, that's unlikely, but possible, I guess.

Just browsing some stories about pit bull attacks, and I came across this one.

http://www.wesh.com/news/13951948/detail.html

From the story:

A pit bull ran into a couple's home Sunday and attacked their dog, WESH 2 News reported.

The woman had just finished putting out the garbage when a pit bull running loose, ran up the steps, in to her home and attacked her dog.

But somehow...

Kat Kennedy, a spokeswoman for Orange County Animal Services said Cooner(the attacking animal) is not a dangerous dog.

"Fortunately, in this case, the dog was not seriously injured so therefore we wouldn't pursue a dangerous dog classification," Kennedy said.

If this dog lived next door to me, I'd buy a choice piece of meat and prepare a nice strychnine marinade.

Just browsing some stories about pit bull attacks, and I came across this one.

http://www.wesh.com/news/13951948/detail.html

From the story:



But somehow...



If this dog lived next door to me, I'd buy a choice piece of meat and prepare a nice strychnine marinade.

Geez.I wooda figgerd You as putz'n dat Pit on a strict 3 day
ban,with short leash and maybe K-Rations.
Y'nose...like what yer makin Frogger go thru .
Same damn thingy.
The only ting Frogger bite was yer Pride,BTW.

... If this dog lived next door to me, I'd buy a choice piece of meat and prepare a nice strychnine marinade.

Trust me on this one - a .45 bullet is cheaper and every bit as effective.

I don't know about shooting those things. A few years ago in my city, some pit bull escaped his house and attacked and mauled several neighbourhood dogs. The dog went mad. The cops were chasing it. They shot it numerous times and the thing made it from one end of the city to the other with about four bullets in it. Some were in the head.

That was alarming.

I don't know about shooting those things. A few years ago in my city, some pit bull escaped his house and attacked and mauled several neighbourhood dogs. The dog went mad. The cops were chasing it. They shot it numerous times and the thing made it from one end of the city to the other with about four bullets in it. Some were in the head.

That was alarming.

Obviously they didn't use the right sized hand cannon.

Trust me on this one - a .45 bullet is cheaper and every bit as effective.

Noisier too. And poisoned steaks don't ricochet. ;)

Noisier too. And poisoned steaks don't ricochet. ;)

Lol, one unlucky shot and someone will want to throw you in jail.

shooting most animals in the head is risky. if not placed well, a deer can run a mile with half its head gone. the best and most effective head shot is at the base of the skull where the spine connects to the brain. instant disconnect. you can kill a deer this way with a .22 caliber up to 30 yards away.

Lol, one unlucky shot and someone will want to throw you in jail.
:)

Of course, shooting your firearm in a DOWNWARD position greatly reduces the chance of an "unlucky" shot, but short of having to cyber-skull fuck anyone here with regards to logic and proper procedure (....again :p), I'll do ANYTHING to avoid having this conversation. ;)

That said, a 12 gauge loaded with double aught buck beats a .45 in a knock down competition any day of the week (within 25 yards, that is).

you can kill a deer this way with a .22 caliber up to 30 yards away.
You've actually DONE that!?!? You inhumane bastard.

You've actually DONE that!?!? You inhumane bastard.
Ain't it against the law to hunt deer with a .22? If it ain't, it oughta be!

Lol, one unlucky shot and someone will want to throw you in jail.Don't you mean "irresponsible" shot, "negligent" shot?

Ain't it against the law to hunt deer with a .22? If it ain't, it oughta be!
Yes, VERY. No rim fire round can be used to hunt medium to large sized game. I bagged my first deer in Texas with a .30-06 (a four point buck, that is), and with it's guts hanging out, he still managed to run 1000 ft from where I shot him. I just remember feeling terrible about that. Of course, I was only 15 at the time, and it was a risky shot (roughly 125 yards away in thick brush with an open-sighted Remington). Since then, I've NEVER taken aim at a buck unless I knew I could guarantee a clear shot.

you hit a deers spinal cord with a .22 and severed it at 90 feet? It always seems people overestimate thier accuracy and ability on this board. Not to long ago someone ws saying they could get a 3round burst from an M-16 within a 2" circle at 90 plus feet.

you hit a deers spinal cord with a .22 and severed it at 90 feet?
Well, sure. Of course that was the 462nd deer he'd shot at with a .22, so he was bound to get lucky eventually. I've always just found it easier to catch the deer on foot, break it's neck, and eat it raw. However, WTF do I know about hunting with rifles - I'm just a primitive man.

I've always just found it easier to catch the deer on foot...Indians used to do this. Crazy, huh? Does anyone recall an article in Sports Illustrated many years ago about some guy (a marathoner?) doing this same thing. Didn't kill the deer, if I remember right, just ran it down and touched it, counting coupe, as it were.

he probably just sets his dogs loose on the deer

who needs a gun,a good clean double lung kill with an arrow does the job too. Just my opinion

or if you are freethinker you could bore the deer to death with stale conspiracy theories and predictable childish insults.

or if you are freethinker you could bore the deer to death with stale conspiracy theories and predictable childish insults.


:lolhit:
poor deer....what did it do to deserve that punishment,lol

or if you are freethinker you could bore the deer to death with stale conspiracy theories and predictable childish insults.

Deer know better than to stand still and listen to bullshit.

Obviously they didn't use the right sized hand cannon.

Yes, I hear their skull bones are extremely thick. When they shot this thing it went into a frenzy apparently. I looked for a link but couldn't find one.

Well there are people who keep bobcats, pythons, or alligators as pets. Should all these be banned as well?

So far as I know all three animals you mentioned are generally banned from urban environments.

shooting most animals in the head is risky. if not placed well, a deer can run a mile with half its head gone. the best and most effective head shot is at the base of the skull where the spine connects to the brain. instant disconnect. you can kill a deer this way with a .22 caliber up to 30 yards away.
you actually did that?! good shot!:thumbs:

Many people here in North Florida have pit bulls. Most lead a rather crappy life of cages and chains. Some raise them for the profit of resale, some probably fight them, and some seem to use them for some type replacement of missing personality traits.

One broke a chain and bit me in the back when I was a small child. I understand that the people that saved me killed the dog right there. I was too young to remember and today have no fear of dogs, only a respect that they are animals, animals ruled by pack instincts regardless of how human we try to make them.

Years ago, in Georgia, I was sent into a small town to eliminate stray dogs, traveling in packs, that had attacked and maimed a small girl. I killed around two hundred stray dogs that day. My weapon of choice was a pump shotgun with buck shot.
The local chief of police wanted to get into the publicity and he shot the station wagon, of the local newspaper editor, with double ought buck and missed the dog with three shots. Very funny at the time.

Most of these dogs, I believe, were simply released by owners that did not want to care for them anymore. Many choices of dogs are based on instincts, many choices of their owners are based on stupidity.

If Chihuahuas weighed a hundred pounds, there would be bounties on their heads. Meanest animal alive. :thumbs:

Many people here in North Florida have pit bulls. Most lead a rather crappy life of cages and chains. Some raise them for the profit of resale, some probably fight them, and some seem to use them for some type replacement of missing personality traits.
Yeah here we go again: The rapper DMX Hounded in AZ
See what he did to his dogs. I think we should ban these dogs because of the type of people who have them and the way the animals end up being treated.

I love this line: "We had a caretaker that wasn't taking care, that's what happened,'' Richman told the Associated Press. "He loves dogs—he loves these animals. Those dogs are practically his family.''

Richman said he was unaware of any problems at the property until contacted by reporters on Friday.

They haven't arrested him and I think they should.

Yet another vicious attack by a pit bull... this one killing a 6 yr old kid.

Scariest parts of this story -- dog was raised from a pup by this family and only a year old when he turned on the little boy while he was watching TV, while his whole family was in the same house.

Very sad.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa070831_lj_boy2.8cdb6b3d.html

:(
SMW

Deer know better than to stand still and listen to bullshit.

I'm s'Not so sure bout dat.
There's LOTS Dearie on one the most poplar Threads that
seem quite keen on each udder's Bullshit.
Very keen,I'd say.

Yeah here we go again: The rapper DMX Hounded in AZ......
You see, DF.....I'm not just making this shit up. Black people, for whatever reason, love those freaking dogs. I know, I know, white people own them too (why - I haven't a clue), but the point I was making (which I'll admit I formulated from a purely observational standpoint - i.e., using empirical data) was simple; they're nowhere near as popular in white neighborhoods as they are in black, period.

And I'd be willing to bet my left nut I'm right.

You see, DF.....I'm not just making this shit up. Black people, for whatever reason, love those freaking dogs. I know, I know, white people own them too (why - I haven't a clue), but the point I was making (which I'll admit I formulated from a purely observational standpoint - i.e., using empirical data) was simple; they're nowhere near as popular in white neighborhoods as they are in black, period.

And I'd be willing to bet my left nut I'm right.
Um, Prae... glad you have another one 'cuz the people in the attack I posted about this morning are white.

Well, OK... barely.

But they ain't black.

;)
SMW

And I'd be willing to bet my left nut I'm right.
If you're so sure, why such a small wager? :D

If you're so sure, why such a small wager? :D
^5

(good one, Sal)

^5

(good one, Sal)
well it was just one of those `begs to be used` lines. :D

If you're so sure, why such a small wager? :D
It may be small, but it's potent.

Um, Prae... glad you have another one 'cuz the people in the attack I posted about this morning are white.

Well, OK... barely.

But they ain't black.

;)
SMW
Where did you find information on their ethnicity?

Where did you find information on their ethnicity?
They were interviewed on the news all weekend.

Are you walking funny now?

;)
SMW

I think pitbulls are more a poor/trashy people thing than a black or white thing. It may be that you happen to encounter more poor blacks than poor whites in Chicago, Prae. :)

I think pitbulls are more a poor/trashy people thing than a black or white thing. It may be that you happen to encounter more poor blacks than poor whites in Chicago, Prae. :)
Exactly, and thank you for not blowing that outta proportion, DF. It's been MY EXPERIENCE that more black families own them, and that's all I was trying to say. I see black people walking them all time where I live currently. There is one white person (a young girl - like probably 19) who owns one two buildings down from me. I don't understand it, but whatever.

Prae might not be politically correct but he is right. Minorities tend to be more prone to owning pit bulls than whites. Maybe it is an economic thing like Darkfantasy says. Maybe its a cultural thing. Whatever the reason far more blacks and Hispanics, at least around here own pit bulls than whites or Asians.

Are you walking funny now?
Your idea of proving me wrong entails throwing the story of one (how did you put it - "barely"?) white family's tale of a Pit Bull attack in my face? I'm not parting with my nut that easily. Besides, men are NEVER supposed to walk funny - that's your job.

Especially if you're "smartmouthed". ;)

Relax, Prae. I totally agree with your premise that these dogs are owned primarily by blacks and/or white trash.

Ethnicity aside, the story of this little boy's death is just more proof that these dogs should not be considered family pets. Amazingly enough, he was killed one day before a new law went into effect giving prison time to any owner whose dog attacks and harms and/or kills a person. If it had been one day later, the grieving mom would be looking at prison time.

More on the story (with pics)...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/090207dnmetpitbullfolo.34b7030.html

Footnote to this story. I have to admit, I felt very sorry for the poor dog when the news showed him shivering inside animal control's cage. At 12 months old, he's barely more than a puppy.

A very deadly puppy who grabbed his master by the throat and killed him.

A true case of mixed emotions.

:(
SMW

Relax, Prae.
I wasn't upset - I was joking the entire time. :)

Amazingly enough, he was killed one day before a new law went into effect giving prison time to any owner whose dog attacks and harms and/or kills a person. If it had been one day later, the grieving mom would be looking at prison time.
WOW!!!

I don't know, maybe its geographical and racial. To my knowledge, I have never been around people, or places, where it is acceptable behavior.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070904/ap_en_ce/tv_goldberg_vick_1

I don't know, maybe its geographical and racial. To my knowledge, I have never been around people, or places, where it is acceptable behavior.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070904/ap_en_ce/tv_goldberg_vick_1
Nor have I, Mod.

I don't know, maybe its geographical and racial. To my knowledge, I have never been around people, or places, where it is acceptable behavior.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070904/ap_en_ce/tv_goldberg_vick_1

Wait wait, VA is the south? Cmon now. Anyways, how are you going to defend something like that, just because he grew up around it doesn't make it right.

I have never been around people, or places, where it is acceptable behavior.
Neither have I, but what do you expect - (and I don't mean this in the racial sense) but these people are just a different breed of cat, period. They weren't raised like you or I.

Phyrex: I'm not defending dog fighting. Its wrong, just like cock fighting, bull fighting, and boxing. All of those "sports" just appeal to the base instincts of some people. The cause of such behavior is what is in question.

Over the years I've encountered cock fighting (attended once), dog fighting (only seen on tv during the Vick escapade) and read of bear vs bull. This video was actually shown on tv here in Atlanta last night (on SPIKE) and is new (http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_rxeh53YOk) to me.

Relax, Prae. I totally agree with your premise that these dogs are owned primarily by blacks and/or white trash.

Ethnicity aside, the story of this little boy's death is just more proof that these dogs should not be considered family pets. Amazingly enough, he was killed one day before a new law went into effect giving prison time to any owner whose dog attacks and harms and/or kills a person. If it had been one day later, the grieving mom would be looking at prison time.]See now I think that is an excellent law. They are a deadly weapon and as such an owner is as responsible for it's behaviour as one is for a gun.

In the area where I live most pit bull owners are white, stalky, young muscular looking with tattoos all over them. When they walk they look serious or at least they try to.

Footnote to this story. I have to admit, I felt very sorry for the poor dog when the news showed him shivering inside animal control's cage. At 12 months old, he's barely more than a puppy.

A very deadly puppy who grabbed his master by the throat and killed him.

A true case of mixed emotions. I think it's pathetic every time I see them shaking like that. They are loaded into vans and driven away. It's like they know they are going to die. And all because it is inbred. I think breeding them should be heavily punished and owning them should be outlawed. It is outlawed in my city. After a certain year all pits had to be registered. They are the only ones allowed. No new ones are supposed to be brought in. :rolleyes: Of course they likely are, but it slows things down and gives more power to the law.

In the area where I live most pit bull owners are white, stalky, young muscular looking with tattoos all over them. When they walk they look serious or at least they try to.
Yeah, but you're in Canada. I think there are probably, like, 3 black people in the entire country. It's cold and they play hockey there. Not exactly a black dreamscape, is it?

Yeah, but you're in Canada. I think there are probably, like, 3 black people in the entire country. It's cold and they play hockey there. Not exactly a black dreamscape, is it?
LOL @ Prae. I have a few I'd be willing to send her... how 'bout you?

:)
SMW

Fire away.

I'm sure she's used to it by now. :)

Ireland is probally the worst offender in Europe for dog fighting,especially in the Northern 3rd of the island,tho only last week there was an undercover BBC film exposing a lot of it.A top GAA footballer from Co.Tyrone has been incriminated tho no charges have been brought.
Only today another couple of dogs were rounded up. Ive never watched a dog fight,Im afraid of dogs haha,tho when I was a kid I used to watch cock fighting every Sunday morning.

I can't even imagine why anybody would want to watch a dogfight! It scares me to death when I see two get 'hung-up' -- much less try to tear each other's throats out!!

;(
SMW

Ireland is probally the worst offender in Europe for dog fighting,especially in the Northern 3rd of the island...
Well, you know what they used to say about the Irish here, don't you?

I can't even imagine why anybody would want to watch a dogfight! It scares me to death when I see two get 'hung-up' -- much less try to tear each other's throats out!!
It takes a sick person. Someone of low blood, IMHO.

Well, you know what they used to say about the Irish here, don't you?
In Chicago they wouldnt say too much about the Irish,but lets hear it.

In Chicago they wouldnt say too much about the Irish,but lets hear it.
I'm not making this up.....I've heard this before, so don't freak out.....they (and by they, I mean the English and Germans primarily) used to call the Irish Europe's niggers.

Oh yeah I knew that one, 'white niggers' was the term.
When I lived in London about 20 years ago I was informed that we still were.

I like white niggers' music better than black niggers', but black nigger women better than white nigger women.

The English are a ruthless bunch of (deleted). Oh, well - fuck 'em.

Cool it a bit Prae ;) -Vilepagan

I like white niggers' music better than black niggers', but black nigger women better than white nigger women.
Well, alrighty then....

There we have it.

Well, alrighty then....

There we have it.
Fear my random racist remarks!

The English are a ruthless bunch of (deleted). Oh, well - fuck 'em.
It sort of worked out to my advantage strangely enough.
The conversation took place in a pub,this guy was pushing me to react,but i was on my own and he had 3 pretty big friends,also the 'chucks' were having a bombing campaign in London at the time,so I let it go.
The next day in work however,I played stupid and asked a couple of Jamicans I worked with,what the term meant,they went crazy and after I told them the story 2 things happened. Firstly,they took me under they're wing,got me sorted out with good accommodation and very good contacts for work. Second the following week after pointing out the four Brits picking on someone else, all four of these guys got the shit beaten out of them behind the pub and werent seen again.
But your right,the English are a ruthless people who dont like anyone,including Americans.

But your right,the English are a ruthless people who dont like anyone,including Americans.

HAH, that's their misfortune.

Send them to our neighborhood. There's many a person, myself included, who'd be glad to shoot off their white wigs.

I like white niggers' music better than black niggers', but black nigger women better than white nigger women.

Surely you can find a better way to say this.

Ren,I think your riled about the Clinton thread,go index something and chill out a bit haha.