View Full Version : Nazi criminals have to pay!
SteveSilv
08-16-2007, 08:37 AM
Rabbit! I wonder whether Holocaust and Genocide of Jews during WW2 stopped meaning anything to people. Just now I had an opportunity to read about certain Estonian national who now lives in Costa Rica. His name is Harry Männil and he is accused by the Simon Wiesenthal Center for being a high-ranking member of the violent Estonian Political Police during the Nazi occupation from 1941 to 1943, and this police force was notorious for persecuting the Jewish community in Estonia in much the same way Jews were persecuted throughout Nazi Europe! With this being so, MFing Männil has the conscience to deny the indictments claiming he was simply involved in administrative tasks. No way, bastard! You will have to pay for all your crimes against Jewish people! He must get due to what he had done unless hundreds of Nazi criminals in hiding would demand justification as well while they may not get one! Justice must prevail!
Freethinker
08-16-2007, 11:39 AM
certain Estonian national who now lives in Costa Rica. His name is Harry Männil and he is accused by the Simon Wiesenthal Center for being a high-ranking member of the violent Estonian Political Police during the Nazi occupation from 1941 to 1943, and this police force was notorious for persecuting the Jewish community in Estonia in much the same way Jews were persecuted throughout Nazi Europe! .... Männil has the conscience to deny the indictments claiming he was simply involved in administrative tasks.
I'm more concerned over the uber-Conservative war criminals we have running this country right now, who because of their insatiable greed for power and the control of oil resources in the Middle East have sentenced hundreds of thousands of inncoent people to die.
No doubt if these criminal are ever dragged into the International Court of Justice they will pull out the lame defense that they too were simply carrying out the "administrative tasks" of the Executive Branch.
DarkFantasy96
08-16-2007, 01:02 PM
Costa Rica is a hideout for all sorts of upper-class type criminals... I personally knew an Italian man who had been convicted of some sort of bank fraud or something. Interpol caught up with him and arrested him a little while before I moved back here.
Slevin57
08-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Costa Rica is a hideout for all sorts of upper-class type criminals... I personally knew an Italian man who had been convicted of some sort of bank fraud or something. Interpol caught up with him and arrested him a little while before I moved back here.
Costa Rica is a beautiful place to hide. If you drive through the towns you see the poor people in their homes. It's the spanish style to have a gate in front of your house. Both for protection and culture.
However if you go a little deeper into the towns there are long winding roads up jungle ridden mountains. There are huge villas in the mountains, with huge gates. The local regulations can easily be bought. You can't really blame them the residents like that that have all the money didn't get it in Costa Rica.
DarkFantasy96
08-16-2007, 06:26 PM
Costa Rica is a beautiful place to hide. If you drive through the towns you see the poor people in their homes. It's the spanish style to have a gate in front of your house. Both for protection and culture.
However if you go a little deeper into the towns there are long winding roads up jungle ridden mountains. There are huge villas in the mountains, with huge gates. The local regulations can easily be bought. You can't really blame them the residents like that that have all the money didn't get it in Costa Rica.
Hmm... I didn't really see a lot of huge villas where I was. But the more prosperous homes, like those of the people who owned the grocery store, did have gates in front of them. The winding roads and the jungle ridden mountains I did see a lot of though. I didn't see too many extremely poor people, since I was almost never in the city. Out in the country towns the people got their land for free in the government's push to move people out of the cities about 20-25 years ago, so every family owns quite a bit of land. They make huge amounts of money from the tourists.
Plus it's very cheap to live there. I think in the city it is more expensive to live, which is probably why there are more people in poverty there. My mom, her boyfriend, my brother and I all lived for $700 a month, and we had amenities that many people didn't like internet and a clothes dryer (although we only used it during the rainy season when it was impossible to get clothes dry on a line). And the richest people in our towns were Costa Rican. There was one German family, but they were effectively Costa Rican; the grandparents emigrated to Costa Rica at the beginning of WWII and they were the only people in the area for about 40 years before the Costa Ricans began to come from the city. The other rich families are mostly native Costa Ricans who own hotels or businesses.
Foolsworth
08-16-2007, 08:26 PM
Buenos Aires was a nutter poplar place that Nazi war criminals
seemed to enjoy.
Until they got ferreted out.
Then like most Nazi,they peed on themself whilst in
retreat and had No guilty conscience,courtesy of the
The Turd Reich and it's inherent madness towards a
disposition upon human depravity,that beguiiled the
very ability God gave ALL,including Germans,to decipher
Good vs. Evil.
Brooks
08-17-2007, 07:17 AM
Rabbit! I wonder whether Holocaust and Genocide of Jews during WW2 stopped meaning anything to people.
Justice must prevail!
People have stopped caring about it, unfortunately.
People in this country feel abivalence at best and antipathy at worst toward Jews and therefore are not interested in the Holocaust.
Stick around here long enough and you'll see what I mean. People are civilized and subtle now, but it's there.
(I don't get the "Rabbit" thing)
Frogger
08-17-2007, 07:24 AM
Rabbit! I wonder whether Holocaust and Genocide of Jews during WW2 stopped meaning anything to people. Just now I had an opportunity to read about certain Estonian national who now lives in Costa Rica. His name is Harry Männil and he is accused by the Simon Wiesenthal Center for being a high-ranking member of the violent Estonian Political Police during the Nazi occupation from 1941 to 1943, and this police force was notorious for persecuting the Jewish community in Estonia in much the same way Jews were persecuted throughout Nazi Europe! With this being so, MFing Männil has the conscience to deny the indictments claiming he was simply involved in administrative tasks. No way, bastard! You will have to pay for all your crimes against Jewish people! He must get due to what he had done unless hundreds of Nazi criminals in hiding would demand justification as well while they may not get one! Justice must prevail!
According to your own post all Mr. Männil has been accused of is being a member of the Estonian police force. I see no claim that he was personally involved in any persecution of Jews or anyone else. You have simply assumed that since he was a member of the Estonian police he must be so involved.
Are you of the opinion that every member of the Estonian police, the SS, the NAZI Party, the Croatian police, etc. should be tried as a war criminal?
Foolsworth
08-17-2007, 08:29 AM
According to your own post all Mr. Männil has been accused of is being a member of the Estonian police force. I see no claim that he was personally involved in any persecution of Jews or anyone else. You have simply assumed that since he was a member of the Estonian police he must be so involved.
Are you of the opinion that every member of the Estonian police, the SS, the NAZI Party, the Croatian police, etc. should be tried as a war criminal?
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Ah...the guy looks GUILTY fer starters.
Just look at the mugs of most nazi commandants or even worse,
those Non-soldiers Doktors like Josef Mengele.
Responsible for Violent deaths of thousands of children & women.
Mengele hand-picked his victims as the trains arrived.
Some Nazi were just hard to track down,but still cocky enough
to demand they were soldiers,thus being treated as such in court.
Like Robert Mulka who represented himself as a respectable
merchant,when in fact he was No soldier,but rather a uniformed
member of the Nazi Death Squad.
It took many years to amass the witness list and formulate
more than 70 dossiers on those Nazi war criminals,but finally
- The Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial {1963-65} took place.
My point being,that Most of the Nazi war criminals fit a profile.
That being,respectable Family men,who tipped their hats in
public and went about their days,using public transportation
and returning home,usually like clockwork,w/o a shred of
any Guilty conscience.
Y'nose like sum round hears.
Frogger
08-17-2007, 08:58 AM
So, in other words, if someone looks a particular way he is guilty. If someone was a member of the police he is a war criminal. No questions asked. Glad we got that straightened out.
Slevin57
08-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Hmm... I didn't really see a lot of huge villas where I was. But the more prosperous homes, like those of the people who owned the grocery store, did have gates in front of them. The winding roads and the jungle ridden mountains I did see a lot of though. I didn't see too many extremely poor people, since I was almost never in the city. Out in the country towns the people got their land for free in the government's push to move people out of the cities about 20-25 years ago, so every family owns quite a bit of land. They make huge amounts of money from the tourists.
Plus it's very cheap to live there. I think in the city it is more expensive to live, which is probably why there are more people in poverty there. My mom, her boyfriend, my brother and I all lived for $700 a month, and we had amenities that many people didn't like internet and a clothes dryer (although we only used it during the rainy season when it was impossible to get clothes dry on a line). And the richest people in our towns were Costa Rican. There was one German family, but they were effectively Costa Rican; the grandparents emigrated to Costa Rica at the beginning of WWII and they were the only people in the area for about 40 years before the Costa Ricans began to come from the city. The other rich families are mostly native Costa Ricans who own hotels or businesses.
This is slightly OT. I guess it depends on where you where in Costa Rica. Riding on horseback on the Carribbean side I saw alot of poor people and alot of Costa Rican's who didn't favor us touristas. I got alota "Gringo" asking questions.
The villas I speak of are more on the pacific side about an hour or two outside of San Jose.
Foolsworth
08-17-2007, 06:06 PM
So, in other words, if someone looks a particular way he is guilty. If someone was a member of the police he is a war criminal. No questions asked. Glad we got that straightened out.
Um,If the Shoe {Glove} fits then arrest it.
Makes Life a better place to Dwell.
Frogger
08-17-2007, 06:08 PM
But don't just assume the shoe fits without proof.
Foolsworth
08-17-2007, 08:50 PM
But don't just assume the shoe fits without proof.
Oh...Like Alleged Proof or Alleged Fit.
There is NO assuming necessary.
If a shoe fits,it fits.
That is why we're in a Pickle,as a country.
We've let manipulative trial lawyers,convince us that
what's right before our eyes,may not be what we think.
Things were better in olden days.
If a criminal { nasty villian} doesn't wanna fess up,then
have them trotted out to a large,deep snake pit full of
deadly ratlers.Threaten them with the unvarnished truth or else.
If they won't cooperate,then toss them in.At least we'll have
demonstrated a courageous individual,regardless of the guilt.
DarkFantasy96
08-17-2007, 10:11 PM
Ah well... I lived on the Pacific side. And by the side I mean the coast - quite a few hours from San Jose (about four to five hours driving plus an hour on the ferry across the gulf). I never went to the Caribbean side but all the people I met were quite friendly and pro-tourist, unless you acted like an idiot and littered and disrespected the locals like some tourists unfortunately tend to do.
And who cares if it's off topic? :p