China: The authority did not punish the criminals but punish the unaccountable victim
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On four o’clock forty on the afternoon of November 13th, 1998, at the place one meter west from the center of the crossing of a road junction, less than 200 meters from the north of Liaoyuan City Mining Bureau General Hospital, where (it is said by the criminal that) the visibility was two to three hundred meters and had good sight and open zone, because Xu Shaoqi, a resident of Sun Rising Rural of Lighthouse Village in Xi’an District, Liaoyuan City, was drunk driving and over speeding and driving conversely (according to the fact that the victim did not have traces that showed being hit on his body and the position of the hitting point on the body of the bike, it can be proved that Xu was truly driving conversely on the left driveway. This fact has been testified.) when the two speeding Ji D-50813 South 125 B-side two-wheel motorcycles hit my older sister Xia Lianqun (hereinafter referred to as the victim) who was passing the road normally pushing a bike and bumped her far to more than ten meters, Xu did not take any measures and looked on with folded arms. His subjective hostility is evident. He deliberately dragged on for nearly one hour and then sent the victim to the hospital which is only two hundred meters away from the crime scene. Because the lunatic criminal wished the victim died and deliberately dragged on without aids for the victim the victim died from the excessively bleeding. Xu Shaoqi knew clearly that the victim could die if he gave no curing measures. His subjective hostility is one important element of murder.
Traffic accident and giving no aids are in the same process of Xu Shaoqi’s crime. The main reason of victim’s death is that Xu did not adopt necessary curing measures.
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The authority did not punish the criminals but punish the unaccountable victim (forcibly imposed responsibilities on her). The perpetrator hit the pedestrian but got no punishment! Why are the two serious peccancies of after drink and over speed written into the Road Traffic Accident Advisor? Why to amerce the dead victim?

After the criminal happened, the handling traffic department didn’t impose any criminal and administrative punishment to the troublemaker who killed a person because of the traffic accident, nor detained the troublemaker even only one day. What it did was setting the criminal free. Because I couldn’t accept the decision sentenced by the Ministry of Public Security, I went to Beijing to appeal to higher authorities for help. To my surprise, I was detained by the authority and had labor education and then detained again.

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The world really does not have the axiom?

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The administrative executive department, which is responsible for handling the accident is not to Remove Criminal Cases to judicial organizations to solve the problem, and plots out responsibility on purpose irregularly. Additionally, they impose responsibility to the victim and force to collect penalty. In recent ten years, I rushed about to appeal to the higher authorities for help in Beijing. However, there is still no just solution.

A case involving human life is to be treated with the utmost care. Our country is ruled by law, why they can be so arrogant?

What else can I expect?

Give back the truth Justice to the Chinese Law to awe the local government and the vicious power of the Security, Procuratorate and Justice departments. I do not have the aim to damage the image of our country. Please forgive me.

I have nothing to wish only hope the related department finish the case earlier, and give the victim a fair, reasonable and justice statement. Let the victim have his bones buried.

http://groups.msn.com/Tragedy-behindthecurtain/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=3

Meanwhile, I appeal to the international just people who maintain people’s rights and can help me to get justice. Let’s build a harmonious society!

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A relative of the peacebreaker said in the office of accident ministry: We just bumped a person to death! It is not a big matter!
why they can be so arrogant?

The third item of the thirty-third article in Constitution of the People's Republic of China writes the nation respects and ensures human rights.

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http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2005-06/14/content_6310.htm

The deceased who should not have taken responsibility to the accident was not only imposed the responsibility but also forced to pay 100 RMB as penalty:

Public Security Organs has changed-over the Determination Re-designated on Road Traffic Accident in Responsibility and the relative regulations of solving traffic accident for twice since the past six years, which is sufficient to prove that the penalty on defunct victim is imposed.

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This is despises the Chinese law the robber act!

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For the falsification of the head of Accident Settling Group of Liaoyuan City, the character of the case has been changed. We impeach the fact to the City Public Prosecutors Office, but they refused to put on record. So we called on the Secretary of the Municipal Party Committee for help and explained the case. To our surprise, he has transferred our documents to the mayor of Liaoyuan City. The Government of Liaoyuan City has given us the solving attitude at last.

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In what situations the traffic accidents are impunity?
Clear :
http://groups.msn.com/Incarnationofhumanrights/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=19

How to designate the responsibility when a driver makes traffic accidents after taking alcohols?　　
Clear :
http://groups.msn.com/Incarnationofhumanrights/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=20

How to deal with the situation when the higher public security organs discover that the lower public security organs makes a wrong re-designation of responsibility on the traffic accidents?
Clear :
Although …… The Regulation of Settling Process in the Road Traffic Accidents

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http://law.law-star.com/txtcac/chl/028/chl_28.138.htm

The public security organs shirk responsibility mutually, which cause the situation of the unjust charge unsolvable for a long time.
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Notice sheet for transferring letter appeals of the public security organs

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Settling Method for The Road Traffic Accidents (issued by the State Council, NO.89, in Sept. 22, 1991)

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The Clause 4 regulates that the public security department is the responsible authorities of the state council to settle traffic accidents.

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The following is clearly written in No. 2110153 Road Traffic Accident Reliability Confirming Letter made by Liaoyuan Traffic Accident Handling Group of Pointsmen Detachment on November 30th, 1998:
Confirming Letter of Reliability of Road Traffic Accident
No. 2110153
Time: November 13th, 1998 16:40
Place: Thirty meters before Yindu bathhouse on Kuangdian Street
On November 13th, 1998 16:40, Xu Shaoqi (male, 50-year old), an inhabitant of Sunrise 4th Group, Dengta Village, Xi’an District in Liaoyuan City, drove Southern125B mode motorcycle marking Ji D50813 from north to south along Kuangdian Street. When he drove thirty meters south to Yindu Bathhouse, because of drunk driving and speeding, he crashed with Xia Lianqun (female, 41-year old, a worker of Liaoyuan Coal and Machine Factory), who was crossing the road from the east of the road by a bicycle. Xia Lianqun was hurt on the head and died after void salvage of the hospital on the same day.

According to the investigation on spot, it is confirmed that party Xia Lianqun did not implement traffic rules or pay attention to keep away from passing vehicles, which offended The Regulation of the People’s Republic of China on Road Traffic Administration the 58th item in Rule No. 7 and the 3rd item in Rule No.7, and that behavior was the main cause of the accident. Party Xu Shaoqi’s drunk driving and speeding disobeyed The Regulation of the People’s Republic of China on Road Traffic Administration the 6th item in Rule No.26 and The Regulation of Jilin Province on Road Traffic Administration the 7th item in Rule No.46, which was the subordinate cause of the accident. According to Rule No.19 in The People’s Republic of China for Handling Road Traffic Accidents, it was confirmed that Xia Lianqun took the main responsibility to the accident and Xu Shaoqi took the subordinate responsibility to the accident.
Transactor: Gao Jian, Liu Qiang (with name print)
Liaoyuan Traffic Accident Handling Group of Pointsmen Detachment (with cachet)
November 30th,1998

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The Xicheng branch of Beijing Public Security Bureau in Beijing City
Public Security Administrative Penalty Decisions

Jing Gong (Xi) Jue Zi [2006] No. 002708

Person being punished: Xia Yuanfeng, male, Han Nation ,no job, Group 6, Committee four, Nankang Street, Longshan District, Liaoyuan City, Jilin Province, ID number：220402195905161414

Now it is ascertained that, Xia Yuanfeng, at about 21:30 on July 17, 2006, ganged up with Qu Yanjiang and Li Fuxiang, put their higher authorities applying materials together with stones into one plastic bag respectively in the west green land of north gate in the Zhongnanhai, and Qu Yanjiang throwed the plastic bags into the wall of Zhongnanhai, then was arrested.
The above mentioned facts was offered and narrated by Xia Yuanfeng himself, attestor was verified, , material evidence, audio-visual data etc. were verified.
In accordance with the item 2 clause 1of article 23 in The Public Security Control Penalty of P.R.China, now, it is decided that Xia Yuanfeng should be under administrative attachment for 10 days. Suboffice of Xicheng District, Public Security Bureau of Beijing City (seal of public security organ)

July 18, 2006

The above mentioned contents have already been read out to Xia Yuanfeng, who refuse to sign.

Relevant original evidences please enter super chaining above:
http://www.freepowerboards.com/xiayuan/xiayuan-about227.html

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I'm not sure I'm getting the complete picture.
Can you provide more information?

Thanks in advance.
:smile2:

Is was something about a traffic accident that some guy caused. The chinese police blamed the victim instead of the other guy because he was important.

THere was alot of "fluff" I think at one point some pople tried to indimidate the victim because he was blowing the whistle.

Is was something about a traffic accident that some guy caused. The chinese police blamed the victim instead of the other guy because he was important.

THere was alot of "fluff" I think at one point some pople tried to indimidate the victim because he was blowing the whistle.Thanks for helping Sparky out there, LF.

He's a little slow on the uptake, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for helping Sparky out there, LF.

He's a little slow on the uptake, if you know what I mean.


Say thar Bubba,how's cUm you always manage to post # 2,3,4
on a new thread.?
This is really gettin to bee a pattern.

Foolsworth... I think you should start a thread about you and tell us about yourself. :D

Foolsworth... I think you should start a thread about you and tell us about yourself. :D


he he he.... Hey I'd read it. Then I would want to read Dharmas story,,,,, that that nutcase lance zuma... his too.

I'm not sure I'm getting the complete picture.
Can you provide more information?

Thanks in advance.
:smile2:


See, it was a joke.

The guys posts a dizzying thread with nearly 1,600 words and 19 hyperlinks, and I asked for more information.

:hahanot:

Eh. I guess you just had to be there.
:rolleyes:

falafellollerz!

I'm not sure I'm getting the complete picture.
Can you provide more information?

Thanks in advance.
:smile2:
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Sister frozen nine years in a funeral parlor "no" cremation

The authority did not punish the criminals but punish the unaccountable victim

The deceased who should not have taken responsibility to the accident was not only imposed the responsibility but also forced to pay 100 RMB as penalty:

Yes accidents? Or deliberate?

On four o’clock forty on the afternoon of November 13th, 1998, at the place one meter west from the center of the crossing of a road junction, less than 200 meters from the north of Liaoyuan City Mining Bureau General Hospital, where (it is said by the criminal that) the visibility was two to three hundred meters and had good sight and open zone, because Xu Shaoqi, a resident of Sun Rising Rural of Lighthouse Village in Xi’an District, Liaoyuan City, was drunk driving and over speeding and driving conversely (according to the fact that the victim did not have traces that showed being hit on his body and the position of the hitting point on the body of the bike, it can be proved that Xu was truly driving conversely on the left driveway. This fact has been testified.) when the two speeding Ji D-50813 South 125 B-side two-wheel motorcycles hit my older sister Xia Lianqun (hereinafter referred to as the victim) who was passing the road normally pushing a bike and bumped her far to more than ten meters, Xu did not take any measures and looked on with folded arms. His subjective hostility is evident. He deliberately dragged on for nearly one hour and then sent the victim to the hospital which is only two hundred meters away from the crime scene. Because the lunatic criminal wished the victim died and deliberately dragged on without aids for the victim the victim died from the excessively bleeding. Xu Shaoqi knew clearly that the victim could die if he gave no curing measures. His subjective hostility is one important element of murder.

Traffic accident and giving no aids are in the same process of Xu Shaoqi’s crime. The main reason of victim’s death is that Xu did not adopt necessary curing measures.

The authority did not punish the criminals but punish the unaccountable victim (forcibly imposed responsibilities on her). The perpetrator hit the pedestrian but got no punishment! Why are the two serious peccancies of after drink and over speed written into the Road Traffic Accident Advisor? Why to amerce the dead victim?

In traffic accident, there are four circumstances under which the party will not be punished according to the regulation: the third one is that if the party dies in the accident, the party will not be charged with the penal and administration responsibility. That is whether the party has peccancies in the accident and whether the party has responsibility for the accident, he will not be given penal or administration sanctions.

In Nov. 30, 1998, the professional executing authority the accident disposal unit of Liaoyuan City traffic police detachment (hereinafter referred to as the accident unit) issued the NO. 2110153 Road Traffic Accident Responsibility Cognizance which says that the accident perpetrator drove speeding after drinking and made the victim die. But the authority deliberately exculpated for the criminal and unlawfully judged that the criminal should take the subordinate responsibility and forcibly imposed on the decedent in the accident main responsibility and gave the victim one hundred Yuan penalty according to the NO.2110153 Road Traffic Accident Responsibility Cognizance.

The accident unit officiates in deputy of the nation. The head of the accident unit Zhang said, The responsibility partition of the accident is studied and made by our whole community

The third item of the thirty-third article in Constitution of the People's Republic of China writes the nation respects and ensures human rights. The police department defied and trampled human rights and forcibly imposed responsibility on the victim and gave the victim penalty of one hundred Yuan.

ISBN 7 - 80078 - 804 - 0/D.728
http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2005-06/14/content_6310.htm

On the second day after the accident, the head of accident unit Zhang and other two people came to the Liaoyuan City Mining Bureau General Hospital (note: I was hit by Audi car of the head of Anshu Mine of Liaoyuan City Dongliao County in 1997 and had to accept cure in hospital because of the left leg tibial fracture. the bad skills of the doctor caused a nonunion of my leg. The hospital colluded with the mine head and misguided me that my leg was healed and forcibly transacted the procedures for leaving hospital without my consent, which led to my second operation. Because my sister’s case has not finished and I was put into prison for reeducation through labor, the case of Anshu Mine traffic accident economic compensation is discontinued on the court of first instance), and lied to us, the perpetrator escaped from our accident unit. We sent three troops of people but did nit catch him. On the same day in the accident unit, Zhang said the perpetrator did not have the ability to compensate and asked us to negotiate with the dependents of the perpetrator about the compensation. He tried not to lawfully investigate the criminal’s penal responsibility and finish the penal case personally. I clearly expresses on the spot, the perpetrator has no money. We may accept none of the compensation of more than 38,900 Yuan. But the perpetrator committed a crime and he must receive punishment and be put into prison for the period he deserves. But Zhang said to us, you are too fractious to return unless you get a lesson. At last you will be hurt badly and come back to beg them on kneels.

The person who investigates this case in the Traffic Police Brigade didn’t allow my lawyer to peruse the paper; he said that Their authorities didn’t allow us to peruse the paper. It is obvious that the system has flaws during handling the case, disobeying the legal principle.

The Traffic Police Brigade disobeyed the facts and law deliberately. They counterfeited materials, concealed the state of affairs, played tricks, changed the nature of the criminal case, set criminals free on purpose and refused to hand over the case to he judicatory organ. They have violated the Article eleven in Provisions on the Procedures for Road Traffic, which content is If it is needed to give criminal sanction to the person who is responsible for the traffic accident, the person should be handed over to the judiciary.

People’s Procuratorate of Jilin Province connived and took sides of the Public Administrative Enforcement of Law Organization and People’s Procuratorate of Liaoyuan City, so I have to appeal to the higher authorities for ten years since 1998. Due to that, I (the brother of the victim) was detained for twice and had a labor education for once, which is I was forced to be detained on May 30th, 2004. (If you want to condemn somebody, you can always trump up a charge)
http://www.freepowerboards.com/xiayuan/xiayuan-about198.html

To sum up, after the case happening, the Public Security Department and the Traffic Police Brigade played tricks, freed the criminal, made the unreal evidence, prevented the lawyer to peruse the paper, hided the truthful facts, broke the division responsibility law, forced the responsibility and imposed a fine to the dead victim, and then they counterfeited the material and changed the nature of the criminal case.

A relative of the peacebreaker said in the office of accident ministry: We just bumped a person to death! It is not a big matter!
why they can be so arrogant?

This is despises the Chinese law the robber act!

The public security organs shirk responsibility mutually, which cause the situation of the unjust charge unsolvable for a long time.

What else can I expect?

Give back the truth Justice to the Chinese Law to awe the local government and the vicious power of the Security, Procuratorate and Justice departments. I do not have the aim to damage the image of our country. Please forgive me.

I have nothing to wish only hope the related department finish the case earlier, and give the victim a fair, reasonable and justice statement. Let the victim have his bones buried.

Meanwhile, I appeal to the international just people who maintain people’s rights and can help me to get justice. Let’s build a harmonious society!

China, Qiangguo Forum

Records

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China:

Liaoyuan City, Jilin Province
Brother of Victim: Xia Yuanfeng
Read more:

http://www.freepowerboards.com/xiayuan/xiayuan-about227.html

In 2001, series of books on Road Traffic Control, Settling Rules and Regulations Violation and Accidents mainly compiled by Wang Li and published by China Legal System Press

ISBN 7 - 80083 - 767 - X/D.734
http://www.51goushu.com/358788.html

Handbook of Settling Methods for the Road Traffic Accidents

Chapter VII Penalty of the Road Traffic Accidents

341, In what situations the traffic accidents are impunity?

In traffic accident, there are four circumstances under which the party will not be punished according to the regulation: the third one is that if the party dies in the accident, the party will not be charged with the penal and administration responsibility. That is whether the party has peccancies in the accident and whether the party has responsibility for the accident, he will not be given penal or administration sanctions.

In 2001, series of books on Road Traffic Control, Settling Rules and Regulations Violation and Accidents mainly compiled by Wang Li and published by China Legal System Press
http://www.51goushu.com/358788.html

Handbook of Settling Methods for the Road Traffic Accidents

Chapter III Designating the Responsibility of the Road Traffic Accidents

170,
How to deal with the situation when the higher public security organs discover that the lower public security organs makes a wrong re-designation of responsibility on the traffic accidents?

Although it is definitely demonstrated that the conclusion of re-designation for the responsibility of traffic accidents is a final decision in The Regulation of Settling Process in the Road Traffic Accidents, it is not absolutely, according to the internal leadership system of the public security organs, the higher public security organs have the power to lead and supervise the work of lower public security organs.

The People's Police Law of P.R.China

The clause 43 makes a definite regulation to the levels supervision within the public security organs: the higher organs of the people’s police carry out supervision to the law enforcement of lower organs……, if the higher public security organs discovers the re-designation by the lower public security organs is wrong, it can require the lower organs basing on the internal supervision process to correct or directly give modification or withdrawal.

People’s Procuratorate of Jilin Province
() Ji Jian Xin Zi No. (without No.)
Xia Yuanfeng: The problem which is reflected in your letter (which belongs to the ministry of Public Security) has been transferred to (Public Security Bureau of Jilin Province) be dealt with. You could contact with them directly.
October 11th, 1999
The reception office on accusing and appealing in People’s Procuratorate of Jilin Province (marked with official stamp)

[b]Sister frozen nine years in a funeral parlor "no" cremation

China, Qiangguo Forum

Records

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http://www.freepowerboards.com/xiayuan/xiayuan-about227.html

The following is clearly written in No. 2110153 Road Traffic Accident Reliability Confirming Letter made by Liaoyuan Traffic Accident Handling Group of Pointsmen Detachment on November 30th, 1998:

Confirming Letter of Reliability of Road Traffic Accident
No. 2110153

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The deceased who should not have taken responsibility to the accident was not only imposed the responsibility but also forced to pay 100 RMB as penalty:
Road Traffic Accident Punishment Order
No. 2110153
Time of Proclaimnation: November 30th, 1998
Party: Xia Lianqun
Female, 41-year old on November 13th, 1998
She has a traffic accident thirty meters south to Yindu Bathhouse on Kuangdian Street, who should take the main responsibility. According to Rule No.20 of The People’s Republic of China for Handling Road Traffic Accidents, she is punished for 100 RMB.
Administrative reconsideration petition to the legal department of higher Public Security sub-bureau is permitted within fifteen days if there is any disagreement.
Statutory delegate：Xiao Tongshan (with name print)
Liaoyuan Traffic Accident Handling Group of Pointsmen Detachment. (with cachet)
This copy is for the punished party. （deceased）

Road Traffic Accident Punishment Order

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The Xicheng branch of Beijing Public Security Bureau in Beijing City

Public Security Administrative Penalty Decisions

Jing Gong (Xi) Jue Zi [2006] No. 002708

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