Im not sure if i post this in the right place because it kinda fits with everything in the debate center. So anyways....

Do you belive in Drinking?

Do you think that anything good comes from it?

Do you think that it effects the person's family more than it does them.

Here is my opinion. I don't belive in it. I don't think anything good comes from it....although some people says that it helps some things, but i don't think thats the cause to drink it. And i know it effects the family more. I have seen my cousins family nearly torn apart by it.

Your comments?

Families are not torn apart by drinking. They are torn apart by alcoholism. Quite a difference there.

I like to drink every once in a while. I believe the last time I drank was about 2 months ago when i was camping with some friends. I like to get drunk every once in a while but otherwise I don't make drinking or partying a habit. I like to stay home with my family and my boyfriend or his family, watch movies and play board games and whatnot. I used to party a lot but it didn't make me happy and neither did drinking.

I think drinking is fine as long as you don't feel guilty about drinking, you don't feel guilty about things you do while drunk, your friends don't tell you that you drink too much, and your family doesn't tell you that you drink too much. If any of those things happen you need help.

My freind is kinda like that. Shes only fifteen, and she drinks til she goes to sleep. I tell her to stop, but she says she's fine.

My freind is kinda like that. Shes only fifteen, and she drinks til she goes to sleep. I tell her to stop, but she says she's fine.
What's the point of that? I never do that. The point of drinking is to be rambunctious and have fun, not to pass out...

I have no clue. I know that some of you will call me a woosie when i tell you this, but i think the taste of regular alcohol like margreritas, bud lite, etc... is nasty. But i did have a taste of a good fruity drink with vodka in it.

Well alcohol is the most abused drug in the united states. And you could get drunk and be in an auto accident without being an alcoholic. Not to mention the damage alcohol does to your body. Statistic say that only 7% of people that drink alcohol are alcoholics. That seems like a low number to me. Maybe I have just known to many alcoholics. The friendly ones and the mean ones. I don't touch the stuff myself!

Well alcohol is the most abused drug in the united states. And you could get drunk and be in an auto accident without being an alcoholic. Not to mention the damage alcohol does to your body. Statistic say that only 7% of people that drink alcohol are alcoholics. That seems like a low number to me. Maybe I have just known to many alcoholics. The friendly ones and the mean ones. I don't touch the stuff myself!
That was the point i was driving at. There is a whole lot more bad things about it than there is good things. And i want you to know that in my last post, i only took a sip of that vodka drink. I have never had a full glass of alcohol, and i never plan to.

That was the point i was driving at. There is a whole lot more bad things about it than there is good things. And i want you to know that in my last post, i only took a sip of that vodka drink. I have never had a full glass of alcohol, and i never plan to. Good for you!:woohoo:

may I ask how old you two are skinny and afinertouch? Just curious is all


I don't drink that much because I have my daughters 24/7 and they seen their dad and grandfather drunk all the time. Not mean or viscious drunk,but still drunk. So I don't drink around them at all. Last time I drank was a beer last weekend and then in April before that. I don't have to have it,but sometimes I just want a cold Killians and to tell the world to go to hell:lolhit:
Whether you drink or not is a personal choice and one a person shouldn't be called a wussy for. Skinny,you're not being a wussy because you don't like drinking

Ridiculous. You people are robbing yourselves of experiences. Alcohol is how the grown up world loosens up and gets to know each other. You can't say you really know a man until you've gotten sloppy drunk with him. You're letting scare words interfere with living your life.

haha...that's very true Napster. Gotta love getting drunk with the guys and watching them fall off their bar stools from drinking too many Bud Lights while I'm working on my 7th Killians:lolhit:

You can't say you really know a man until you've gotten sloppy drunk with him.
:drinktoth

Skinny,you're not being a wussy because you don't like drinking
Thanks

may I ask how old you two are skinny and afinertouch? Just curious is all


I don't drink that much because I have my daughters 24/7 and they seen their dad and grandfather drunk all the time. Not mean or viscious drunk,but still drunk. So I don't drink around them at all. Last time I drank was a beer last weekend and then in April before that. I don't have to have it,but sometimes I just want a cold Killians and to tell the world to go to hell:lolhit:
Whether you drink or not is a personal choice and one a person shouldn't be called a wussy for. Skinny,you're not being a wussy because you don't like drinking Michelle, just click on anyone's handle and you can view their profile! And your right, he is not being a wussy because he does not like drinking. Especially since he is a minor!!

Ridiculous. You people are robbing yourselves of experiences. Alcohol is how the grown up world loosens up and gets to know each other. You can't say you really know a man until you've gotten sloppy drunk with him. You're letting scare words interfere with living your life. He's only 15!

afinertouch,I keep forgetting you can do that here:@@:


you're right,he is a minor and can get into trouble if he's caught with alcohol. Again,it's also a personal choice and he'll do what he wants and what is right for him,same as anyone else*shrugs*

He's only 15!Yeah, you've got no business with alcohol at this point. Nothing bad at cha, it's just a developmental thing. And, if concerned, you loose nothing by leaving it alone, period.

I keep forgetting you can do that here:@@: :)

Yeah, you've got no business with alcohol at this point. Nothing bad at cha, it's just a developmental thing. And, if concerned, you loose nothing by leaving it alone, period.
i had vocka before. i likd it.my gf drinks beer but that dont taste good to me.rum is good to.

i had vocka before. i likd it.my gf drinks beer but that dont taste good to me.rum is good to. If you don't even know how to spell it your probably to young to drink. And from your picture I would say that is the case!

Nicotine would get my vote for the most abused drug in the U.S., and perhaps the world. That being said, the issues with alcohol abuse and alcoholism are well documented and would probably fill a good sized shopping mall. Pick a topic heading - behavioral, medical, familial, developmental, political, financial, social, or legal and there's books galore regarding the negative impact of involvement with alcohol.

If you don't even know how to spell it your probably to young to drink. And from your picture I would say that is the case!
:rolleyes:

lol good point

Yeah, you've got no business with alcohol at this point. Nothing bad at cha, it's just a developmental thing. And, if concerned, you loose nothing by leaving it alone, period.
Well the only reason it tasted it at certain times was to prove that it tasted horrible...and i was right...except the fruit vodka drink. I could see how people get drunk easily off vodka.

ick.....vodka makes me hurl.

He's only 15!
So?

So?
I think that is why so many teenager like me are under the influence all the time because they like to experiement when their not ready, and it ruins them. I have decided to ignore that until i feel like im ready. But you know, i may not want to experiement at all.

I think that is why so many teenager like me are under the influence all the time because they like to experiement when their not ready, and it ruins them. I have decided to ignore that until i feel like im ready. But you know, i may not want to experiement at all.
It's your call.

And believe me, a college student is probably more likely to drink til he's falling down and blacking out than a teenager. If only because it's easier to hide that from his parents.

Nicotine would get my vote for the most abused drug in the U.S., and perhaps the world. That being said, the issues with alcohol abuse and alcoholism are well documented and would probably fill a good sized shopping mall. Pick a topic heading - behavioral, medical, familial, developmental, political, financial, social, or legal and there's books galore regarding the negative impact of involvement with alcohol. Well I didn't know we were voting on what we thought was the most abused drug in the US. I would say alcohol was and at least for students. While tobacco is surely widely abused and bad for a person's health it is not the same as alcohol. How many car accidents were caused by being under the influence of nicotine. How much domestic abuse was caused by cigarettes? And I'm not saying that it's not addictive but it is not the same as being under the influence of alcohol.

It appears that you have chosen to read and respond only to the first sentence of my post.

It appears that you have chosen to read and respond only to the first sentence of my post. Oh sorry, I agree with you on the second part of your post!!! :)

what i've noticed about alcohol is that when you drink for flavor or to enhance a meal , it is ok, but to drink to get a buzz is a problem. alcohol eventually causes the body to feel bad, then this feeling effects the mental attitude. the mind spirals down with the body.

i hate alcohol and i don't want it. i believe it should be decriminalized and not taxed. thus if someone wants it, make it yourself. and if you get caught selling it, go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars.

i hate alcohol and i don't want it. i believe it should be decriminalized and not taxed.
Decriminalized? It's already legal.

98% of the time, when I drink, it's beer, and I drink it because I enjoy the flavor, not for the alcoholic effects. A notable exception occurred this past weekend at a family reunion, where they served Miller Lite. I don't enjoy the flavor of Miller Lite, but being around a bunch of far-off family members is a tiring and distressing experience for me, so a bit of beer helped tremendously.

what i've noticed about alcohol is that when you drink for flavor or to enhance a meal , it is ok, but to drink to get a buzz is a problem. alcohol eventually causes the body to feel bad, then this feeling effects the mental attitude. the mind spirals down with the body.
Pretty much accurate for me. I love a glass of wine with a meal. If I have company or if our after dinner sit lasts longer than ususal, I may top up my glass a bit. But anything much over that and my body revolts and things feel nasty and regret for over indulgence sets in.


i hate alcohol and i don't want it. i believe it should be decriminalized and not taxed. thus if someone wants it, make it yourself. and if you get caught selling it, go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars

Make it yourself, no way. Part of the beauty of drinking fine wine is the flavour they have managed to glean from the grapes. The grapes taste different according to variety and soil ahnd harvesting technique. You can't just willy nilly drive all winerys off the face of the earth. That would be a travesty to their livelyhood and many people's taste buds.

Alcohol is not the problem. It is how it is handled.

...being around a bunch of far-off family members is a tiring and distressing experience for me, so a bit of beer helped tremendously.:drinktoth

Alcohol is not the problem. It is how it is handled.If it doesn't cause a problem, it's not a problem. And alcohol, which I notice is an inanimate object, never is the cause of a problem.

I drink alcoholic beverages like any other beverage. Almost never because I want to get drunk, but because I know what it tastes like and I feel like getting it at the time. The world of alcoholic beverages is a vast and rich one, with all different flavors and tastes to choose from, and history and stories associated with them. It's very entertaining to sample different drinks.

Except for sambuka.

I drink alcoholic beverages like any other beverage. Almost never because I want to get drunk, but because I know what it tastes like and I feel like getting it at the time. The world of alcoholic beverages is a vast and rich one, with all different flavors and tastes to choose from, and history and stories associated with them. It's very entertaining to sample different drinks.
I agree, and I'm a huge fan of good beers. Chimay Red is probably my very favorite, followed by Chimay Blue and Sam Adams Oktoberfest.

I've been meaning to try scotch, if only because my surname is Scottish and I'd like to get in touch with my heritage. I'm also Italian, but I'm not a fan of wine.

...and scotch. Ugh.

I don't like beer... But I do love a nice mixed drink like a mojito or a tequila sunrise. I like the ones that don't taste like alcohol but still pack a punch... So you don't realize until afterwards that it had about 3 shots in it. :thumbs: I don't like wine either, except champagne of course.

Wow, you make it sound delicious. I'm sure that skinnybones has probably already raided his parents liquor cabinet!

Wow, you make it sound delicious. I'm sure that skinnybones has probably already raided his parents liquor cabinet!
Oh hush. There are lots of drinks that are delicious. It's a matter of taste anyways. Like how Borg enjoys the flavor of beer and I certainly don't.

Yes, but why tempt a guy that is 15? :confused:

Yes, but why tempt a guy that is 15? :confused:
Who said I was trying to? For one thing, I'm only 17 myself.

I totally respect his decision not to drink and if he was my friend I would certainly support him and remind him of his decision anytime he seemed tempted.

I don't like beer... But I do love a nice mixed drink like a mojito or a tequila sunrise. I like the ones that don't taste like alcohol but still pack a punch... So you don't realize until afterwards that it had about 3 shots in it. :thumbs: I don't like wine either, except champagne of course. Oh really? I did not realize you were an underage drinker. So your breaking the law and you don't think your posting saying it packs a punch is not tempting to a 15 year old questioning drinking? Your making it sound cool.Geez!

Oh really?
What's your point here? Other people in the discussion were talking about their personal preferences in alcohol so I put in my two cents.

Well yes I realize that you were not the only one doing it!

Well yes I realize that you were not the only one doing it!
Doing what?! If skinny is convinced to try alcohol by a few people who he doesn't even know sharing their preferences with each other, then he doesn't really have strong convictions against it in the first place. He already said that he has tried alcohol that he doesn't like and alcohol that he does like - and that his experiences haven't changed his desire not to drink. So what on earth could possibly be your point here?

Oh hush. There are lots of drinks that are delicious. Apple martini...dangerously sly. It's like a Jolly Rancher that'll put you on your knees,.

:@@:

Wow, you make it sound delicious. I'm sure that skinnybones has probably already raided his parents liquor cabinet!
I have never raided anything containing liquor.

I've been drinking since probably about the age of 9 or so.
My father allowed us to take swigs off of his cans of Schlitz or Falstaff beers, and then later on allowed us to drink beer or wine, as long as we 'did so in his presence', and 'didn't go out and about with our moron friends in cars'.

Subsequently, by the time I ran afoul of all the Jr High and High School friends who wanted to go get wasted and tear things up, I always passed. Alcohol held no glamour or 'cool points' for me, for certain.

Later on, I fell into the culture of the military aviator (drink hard, fly hard, and then get up in the morning and do it all over again). For a brief period of time, I must admit that Mr. Jim Beam had a certain hold over me, and I eventually had to throttle-back on the drinking of the hard stuff.

To this day, I enjoy a good dark beer (or five), and I have no regrets about enjoying some of the finer things in life. Good drink, good food, a fine smoke every now and then.

I cannot presume to pass judgement on those who drink, no matter what the age. You can't protect the young ones from every hazard in life, no matter what you do. As parents, all you can do is teach them some common sense, some restraint, and the value of moderation. To this day, both my daughter and step-daughter (both about to turn 26) are light social drinkers, and I admire how both of them have a certain balance in their lives.

The only advice I would offer anybody who is worried about an under-aged guy or gal experimenting with alcohol? Don't glamorize it by trying to make it the alpha and omega of all evils. If you tell a teenager not to do something because it's wrong, chances are they will just want to do that thing all the more.

Now, here's what really works:
Tell them that, "If I catch you drinking and driving, I will kill you and eat your flesh, and grind your bones into compost, and they will never, ever find your body, do you understand me?"

Does the trick every time.
:thumbs:

Except for sambuka.

Sambucca should only be consumed by us Gods and Goddess. You mere mortals should avoid it.

Haha, I agree with that Sparky, I was drinking young too. I'm taking notes on your words of wisdom.

Now, here's what really works:
Tell them that, "If I catch you drinking and driving, I will kill you and eat your flesh, and grind your bones into compost, and they will never, ever find your body, do you understand me?"

Doing what?! If skinny is convinced to try alcohol by a few people who he doesn't even know sharing their preferences with each other, then he doesn't really have strong convictions against it in the first place. He already said that he has tried alcohol that he doesn't like and alcohol that he does like - and that his experiences haven't changed his desire not to drink. So what on earth could possibly be your point here? Oh please, that does not give you a good reason to say how your enjoy alcohol so much. Plus your a minor. It's not appropriate for you and it's not appropriate for the adults that have done the same. That's my opinion. Your just young and careless and the adults are not as bright as I would hope they would be. :lolhit:

You make no sense... When did I ever say that I enjoy alcohol "so much"? I don't think it's "inappropriate" for me to talk about alcohol in a forum full of mature adults and almost adults. And I may be young, but I am not careless.

Alcohol haters will stop at nothing to ensure that no one will ever enjoy it, ever. Such people are to be laughed at for their simple-mindedness, not taken seriously.

You make no sense... When did I ever say that I enjoy alcohol "so much"? I don't think it's "inappropriate" for me to talk about alcohol in a forum full of mature adults and almost adults. And I may be young, but I am not careless. Well it is when the thread was started by the guy that was 15. I would think it would just be common sense. Maybe not for you but your 17. You can disagree with me but that does not change the way I feel about it.

Alcohol haters will stop at nothing to ensure that no one will ever enjoy it, ever. Such people are to be laughed at for their simple-mindedness, not taken seriously. Whatever :@@:

Whatever :@@:
Yet another one of your thrilling retorts! Stay tuned next week folks, afinertouch will find new use for the :upyours: smiley!

Yet another one of your thrilling retorts! Stay tuned next week folks, afinertouch will find new use for the :upyours: smiley! I'm really getting bored with you! From what I've heard your a loser anyway.

No matter how many times you give the thumbs-down signal, I won't get my head cut off. Ancient Rome is gone, buddy! Find something else.

That's another bad side effect of alcohol skinnybones it makes a lot of people obnoxious and think that they are funnier than they really are!

You should try it some time, maybe it'll loosen you up! Hey, get this, it might even help you talk to a girl!

I know, I know, you don't believe me. But think, what do you have to lose?

Im not sure if i post this in the right place because it kinda fits with everything in the debate center. So anyways....

Do you belive in Drinking?

Do you think that anything good comes from it?

Do you think that it effects the person's family more than it does them.

Here is my opinion. I don't belive in it. I don't think anything good comes from it....although some people says that it helps some things, but i don't think thats the cause to drink it. And i know it effects the family more. I have seen my cousins family nearly torn apart by it.

Your comments?

Skinny, your topic fits, if you add the word "Philosophy". All drinkers and druggies have a "Philosophy" that supports the fact that they should drink and be drug addicks:) .

" Does any good come from the sale of "alcohol" ? Taxes :) govenmet is supported by it, just like tobacco. And if it isn't controled, it is too eazy to make and grow your own. And because it is eazy, you will be selling it to others.

The only saving grace is that the voters won't go for making "pot" legal :) and when they actually try to, they find themselves in a bigger mess! I love that part! :) Folks that want to be intoxicated generally have no sense and have not only a disruptive effect to a civilized reality, but they are also a threat to all of our loved ones. :)

Skinny I like you topic and this post is my "tag" so that it shows up in my e-mail :) so that I can't loose it nomatter how disruptive folks get :) relitive to buryring things in history :)

Tucker58

Folks that want to be intoxicated generally have no sense and have not only a disruptive effect to a civilized reality, but they are also a threat to all of our loved ones. :)

Tucker58

now that's really unfair to those of us who do not drink and drive or are not out getting totally hammered all the time. In fact the majority of the people who responded to this thread seem to have a good handle on their drinking habits. Yes,even the younger ones who have tried it and either liked it or disliked it
Don't lump all of us who drink into your idea of a drinker.:mad:

now that's really unfair to those of us who do not drink and drive or are not out getting totally hammered all the time. In fact the majority of the people who responded to this thread seem to have a good handle on their drinking habits. Yes,even the younger ones who have tried it and either liked it or disliked it
Don't lump all of us who drink into your idea of a drinker.:mad:
Thanks Michelle.

One of the earlies examples of writing from ancient times that survives to this day is a recipe for beer. Some anthropologists have theorized that the desire to make beer was the major impetus to humans developing agriculture.

Alcohol has been around for a long time, and if it was to be our demise, it would have happened by now. Some of the biggest names in history were drunks. :)

I just got some popcorn.

I just got some popcorn.

Just so long as you haven't poured yourself a drink. ;)

Just so long as you haven't poured yourself a drink. ;)
Funny, I was eating popcorn and drinking a Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout while reading this.

Just so long as you haven't poured yourself a drink. ;)

That is funny because I was drinking.

Just coke, but I can admit to a bottle of beer every now and then.

Funny, I was eating popcorn and drinking a Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout while reading this.

What a coincidence...I'm eating caviar and drinking Dom Perignon.

:drinktoth

What a coincidence...I'm eating caviar and drinking Dom Perignon.

:drinktoth

Fish eggs, can you describe the taste?
I have to admit, I cant see eating fish eggs.

A friend of mine makes a mighty fine crawfish gumbo. So I can admit to eating river bugs.

do you eat them with their heads on?
I can't eat something that's staring at me

do you eat them with their heads on?
I can't eat something that's staring at me


No thats just the duck. The river bugs have to be deheaded.

some places serve them with the heads on......yuck

I prefer throwing them at someone in the canoe while tubing:lolhit: long story

Wow, everyone's drinking and eating... hedonists. *righteous sniff*

What a coincidence...I'm eating caviar and drinking Dom Perignon.

:drinktoth

Holy hell........Dom Perignon... how much is that by the bottle now a days?

Fish eggs, can you describe the taste?
I have to admit, I cant see eating fish eggs.

Neither can I. :)

Not a big champagne fan either.

If I drink it's a screwdriver.

Holy hell........Dom Perignon... how much is that by the bottle now a days?

Good God woman...I was kidding :D

Good God woman...I was kidding :D
Ah, got me. I was going to ask if you had won the lottery then decided it sounded rude. Guess it would have been okay after all.

Wow, everyone's drinking and eating... hedonists. *righteous sniff*


just pizza and root beer:p

just pizza and root beer:p
I have water and sour gummie worms :)

If it doesn't cause a problem, it's not a problem. And alcohol, which I notice is an inanimate object, never is the cause of a problem.

In all my years I've yet to meet someone with a drinking problem.

No such thing. Everyone knows how to drink ... just pour it down your throat.

Stopping ...now that's often a problem.

In all my years I've yet to meet someone with a drinking problem.
Apparently you've never met Ted Striker.

Sambucca should only be consumed by us Gods and Goddess. You mere mortals should avoid it.
But we do exist to serve you, I believe. Have another, ma'am?

Im not sure if i post this in the right place because it kinda fits with everything in the debate center. So anyways....

Do you belive in Drinking?

Do you think that anything good comes from it?

Do you think that it effects the person's family more than it does them.

Here is my opinion. I don't belive in it. I don't think anything good comes from it....although some people says that it helps some things, but i don't think thats the cause to drink it. And i know it effects the family more. I have seen my cousins family nearly torn apart by it.

Your comments?

Anything that reduces your consciousness is not good for your mind. Having a couple of drinks is not going to cause you any problems. Drinking until you black out will inevitably reduce your wellbeing. People drink heavily as a solution to a particular problem, even if that problem is boredom. But there are better solutions.

Anything that reduces your consciousness is not good for your mind. Having a couple of drinks is not going to cause you any problems. Drinking until you black out will inevitably reduce your wellbeing. People drink heavily as a solution to a particular problem, even if that problem is boredom. But there are better solutions.
If alcohol concerns you so much, why not try something safer and a whole lot better, like Salvia?

Ah, got me. I was going to ask if you had won the lottery then decided it sounded rude. Guess it would have been okay after all.

If I win the lottery you won't have to ask. :)

Pretty much accurate for me. I love a glass of wine with a meal. If I have company or if our after dinner sit lasts longer than ususal, I may top up my glass a bit. But anything much over that and my body revolts and things feel nasty and regret for over indulgence sets in.




Make it yourself, no way. Part of the beauty of drinking fine wine is the flavour they have managed to glean from the grapes. The grapes taste different according to variety and soil ahnd harvesting technique. You can't just willy nilly drive all winerys off the face of the earth. That would be a travesty to their livelyhood and many people's taste buds.

Alcohol is not the problem. It is how it is handled.


almost everyone i know has a problem with alcohol. there are very few people who can handle it the proper way.

there are lots of functioning drunks in the world and you wouldn't know they are drunks. nice, hold down a job, etc..but drunks all the same.

decriminalized is by i mean to bring it down to that from legalized. take it off the shelf, and if you want it, make it yourself. just may reduce alcohol consumption all together. do the same with pot. not legalized. but decriminalized.

almost everyone i know has a problem with alcohol. there are very few people who can handle it the proper way.

there are lots of functioning drunks in the world and you wouldn't know they are drunks. nice, hold down a job, etc..but drunks all the same.

decriminalized is by i mean to bring it down to that from legalized. take it off the shelf, and if you want it, make it yourself. just may reduce alcohol consumption all together. do the same with pot. not legalized. but decriminalized.

My older bro is a good example of somebody who spent their whole life as a 'functioning alcoholic'. I never saw him 'drunk' even in Vegas where he could keep the scotch & sodas coming for 24 hrs straight. He never lost a job... or a wife... or friends from drinking too much.

However, he did lose a liver and is now on the transplant list. Terrible, terrible condition to end up with just when life is supposed to be getting easier. His 'mentor' (another liver transplant recipient) told him he was 3 weeks from death before he got his. Although the mentor is doing fine now, makes one wonder how 'they' knew he only had 3 more weeks. Cutting it pretty damn close, if ya ask me.

If you choose to drink, like all things we enjoy, one should do it in moderation. (which means not EVERYDAY)

SMW

almost everyone i know has a problem with alcohol. there are very few people who can handle it the proper way.

decriminalized is by i mean to bring it down to that from legalized. take it off the shelf, and if you want it, make it yourself. just may reduce alcohol consumption all together. do the same with pot. not legalized. but decriminalized

Well, if almost everyone you know has a problem with alcohol I can see why you are in favour of limiting it's avaliability. I on the other hand know few people that have a problem handling it. We are not party people or big drinkers so perhaps we gravitate toward others with the same nature, I don't know. A few of my friends had problems with it in the past but both of them have been dry for many years now.

If left up to me all alcohol and drugs would availabe for purchase.

there are lots of functioning drunks in the world and you wouldn't know they are drunks. nice, hold down a job, etc..but drunks all the same. Likely correct, they are usually called functioning alcoholics there are even weekend alcoholics.

My older bro is a good example of somebody who spent their whole life as a 'functioning alcoholic'. I never saw him 'drunk' even in Vegas where he could keep the scotch & sodas coming for 24 hrs straight. He never lost a job... or a wife... or friends from drinking too much.

However, he did lose a liver and is now on the transplant list. Terrible, terrible condition to end up with just when life is supposed to be getting easier. His 'mentor' (another liver transplant recipient) told him he was 3 weeks from death before he got his. Although the mentor is doing fine now, makes one wonder how 'they' knew he only had 3 more weeks. Cutting it pretty damn close, if ya ask me.SMW

Sorry to hear about your brother SMW and his need for a liver transplant. Hopefully one will become availabe for him shortly. Will suck though to have to take all the anti-rejection drugs for the rest of his life but people seem to do fine with it. I have heard liver cells regenerate quickly and that a whole liver is not always necessary. Don't know if that is true or not.


If you choose to drink, like all things we enjoy, one should do it in moderation. (which means not EVERYDAY) Hm, I don't know about that. My doctor would disagree with you. She has no problem with me having wine everyday with my meal. Told me not to save up the glass per day for the weekend though and have it all at once, messes too much with the liver. Not to mention the mind.

An interesting side topic is what would happen if, through science and medicine, health-related problems from alcohol consumption is completely eliminated. Will alcohol become illegal then?

If health problems, and not drunkenness-related problems, were what stopped many people from over-consumption, then an alcohol ban might ironically result in such a situation (which appears to be a great breakthrough).

Anything that reduces your consciousness is not good for your mind. Sleep, maybe?:)

I was reading this artical from a futurist where it stated that your bathroom will be able to detect alcohol in your system 50 years from now.
Which would allow most health insurence companies the right to deny you insurence, if for instence your morning pee had alcohol in it.
Then I seen the exact same thing on the history channel.

Anyway. My point is, if you drink for your health and somehow had a life threatening experience, you'd be completely out of luck.

now that's really unfair to those of us who do not drink and drive or are not out getting totally hammered all the time. In fact the majority of the people who responded to this thread seem to have a good handle on their drinking habits. Yes,even the younger ones who have tried it and either liked it or disliked it
Don't lump all of us who drink into your idea of a drinker.:mad:

Sal this lady has no "chastity belt" :) Humm?

Nappy, you said that women never psot! :) Humm?!

MichelleG, I drink! And I have reasons why I do. :) And I don't walk the streets and I don't drive :)

I love you MichelleG! You are rogue with a whole bunch of stuff attached to it. :) I am happy that I am older and not a younger person. :) Little Joe, welcome to the world!

Anyway MeshelleG :) welcome to this topic! Everybody has to stop and check out you Sig., if they are a normal guy, old or otherwise :) Nappy are you normal?

Again MichelleG welcome! At least personally, relative to my reality as a guy!

Old tuck, who is actually a normal guy :)

Tucker58

Tucker, you are just all over the place... ADD? :p