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You should never do anything just because someone asked you to do it. You should never not do anything just because someone tells you to or not to. What you should do is endeavor to understand why he/she is asking you to do it, and then act, or not act, accordingly. If it pisses someone off, so be it.

Yet another cop mistakenly shoots (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20397508/from/RS.2/)an unsuspecting citizen in Oklahoma.

Yet another cop mistakenly shoots (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20397508/from/RS.2/)an unsuspecting citizen in Oklahoma.

Prosecute that killer!

Prosecute that killer!

The dude didn't croak ... yet.

Norman, Oklahoma (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Sep07/0,4670,BoyKilled,00.html)Two police officers were charged Friday with second-degree manslaughter for their roles in an accidental shooting in which a bullet intended for a snake fatally struck a 5-year-old boy.
Paul Bradley Rogers, who fired the shot, and Robert Shawn Richardson, who was Rogers' supervising officer with the Noble Police Department who was at the scene of the Aug. 3 shooting, could face up to four years in prison if convicted.
"I take no pleasure in this decision," District Attorney Greg Mashburn said. "Although this event was accidental, with reasonable care and caution, the death of a child could have been avoided."
Rogers, 34, fired his .357-caliber handgun at a snake in a birdhouse outside a home in Noble, just outside Norman. He thought it was a rattlesnake, but it turned out to be a harmless black rat snake that is often mistaken for a dangerous snake, city officials have said.
The bullet killed the snake but also struck Austin Gabriel Haley, who was standing on a fishing dock with his grandfather at a pond in a wooded area near the house, authorities said.
Mashburn said the child's death was caused by the "culpable negligence" of the officers.

Mashburn said the child's death was caused by the "culpable negligence" of the officers.
Sounds about right.

Prosecute that killer!I'm waiting for some here to tell us how wrong the Oklahoman authorities are now that they seem to be moving forward with prosecution in the case of shooting the snake, er, 5 year old boy.

Thanks for the update. I feel bad for all involved.

Thanks for the update as well ES. Sad case.

Yet another cop mistakenly shoots (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20397508/from/RS.2/)an unsuspecting citizen in Oklahoma.Unreal!!

Yet another cop mistakenly shoots (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20397508/from/RS.2/)an unsuspecting citizen in Oklahoma.
Now I find that story a touch difficult to swallow. A "ricocheted" bullet (ostensibly fired from a handgun) that traveled beyond the berm at the end of a target range to a dealership lot ONE MILE away?!?! C'mon. What handgun round (unless fired in an upward direction) has the ability to travel a mile? Even if it were a .223, the question's still valid. The speed at which it would have to travel to come off a METAL target frame and over that backstop would have be incalculably high (and not to mention, the path the bullet took - next to impossible). Like try 10,000 ft per sec + (with no deformation in size). This isn't rocket science here, it's purely a logical deduction on my part. In short - I smell bullshit, but hey - we all know cops would never lie, so hell - I'm probably all washed up here.

This isn't rocket science here, it's purely a logical deduction on my part. In short - I smell bullshit, but hey - we all know cops would never lie, so hell - I'm probably all washed up here.I thought ballistics was rocket science. :)

I thought ballistics was rocket science. :)
Well, to a degree it is. The study of rocket dynamics goes waaay beyond tracing bullet trajectories. That said, I'll admit it - you caught me - I actually am a rocket scientist who moonlights as a political dilettante here on Allforums. You know, minus roughly 150 IQ points, that is - but hey....don't tell anyone, okay? ;)

Now I find that story a touch difficult to swallow. A "ricocheted" bullet (ostensibly fired from a handgun) that traveled beyond the berm at the end of a target range to a dealership lot ONE MILE away?!?! C'mon. What handgun round (unless fired in an upward direction) has the ability to travel a mile? Even if it were a .223, the question's still valid. The speed at which it would have to travel to come off a METAL target frame and over that backstop would have be incalculably high (and not to mention, the path the bullet took - next to impossible). Like try 10,000 ft per sec + (with no deformation in size). This isn't rocket science here, it's purely a logical deduction on my part. In short - I smell bullshit, but hey - we all know cops would never lie, so hell - I'm probably all washed up here.
I'd call bull on that one too, Prae. I know of no conventional bullet that would go that far after it "glanced/ricocheted" off of anything. If this is true (source of the bullet...that is), it most likely would have to have been fired into the air.

Damn straight. Thank you, OP.

Norman, Oklahoma (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Sep07/0,4670,BoyKilled,00.html)Two police officers were charged Friday with second-degree manslaughter for their roles in an accidental shooting in which a bullet intended for a snake fatally struck a 5-year-old boy.
Paul Bradley Rogers, who fired the shot, and Robert Shawn Richardson, who was Rogers' supervising officer with the Noble Police Department who was at the scene of the Aug. 3 shooting, could face up to four years in prison if convicted.
"I take no pleasure in this decision," District Attorney Greg Mashburn said. "Although this event was accidental, with reasonable care and caution, the death of a child could have been avoided."
Rogers, 34, fired his .357-caliber handgun at a snake in a birdhouse outside a home in Noble, just outside Norman. He thought it was a rattlesnake, but it turned out to be a harmless black rat snake that is often mistaken for a dangerous snake, city officials have said.
The bullet killed the snake but also struck Austin Gabriel Haley, who was standing on a fishing dock with his grandfather at a pond in a wooded area near the house, authorities said.
Mashburn said the child's death was caused by the "culpable negligence" of the officers.



There as since been another update - both police officers were fired after being charged, and the police chief of Noble has also been fired. A former police officer who worked there said it was like coming to work in a cesspool everyday - this was even before the incident of the death of the little boy.

There as since been another update - both police officers were fired after being charged, and the police chief of Noble has also been fired. A former police officer who worked there said it was like coming to work in a cesspool everyday - this was even before the incident of the death of the little boy.

If that's true sassy, then it's sad it took the death of a little boy to call attention to the problem.

If that's true sassy, then it's sad it took the death of a little boy to call attention to the problem.


Yes it's sad - but I'm sure a lot of people work in a cesspool for years before it ever gets better.

Typical government, and there are people here who actually want 'em to "fix" our healthcare problem. I wonder what it would take to "out" the worthless employees they hire? Hmmm.

The flaw in this reasoning is that the problem is in no way limited to the evil, mythical government.

You're right, it's certainly not "limited to it", but with that said, the noteworthy distinction here is that it's endemic to government. Probably to the tune of 3 to 1 what it is in the private sector. The officer's ineptitude just happened to be a glaring example, and it took the death of a child to (well, hopefully) remedy the problem (although, past precedent dictates it's not likely).

You're right, it's certainly not "limited to it", but with that said, the noteworthy distinction here is that it's endemic to government. Probably to the tune of 3 to 1 what it is in the private sector. The officer's ineptitude just happened to be a glaring example, and it took the death of a child to (well, hopefully) remedy the problem (although, past precedent dictates it's not likely).I agree with you in this matter.