what existed before space?

Non-space? n-space?

Pre-space

mmmm........space?

isnt it possible that particles existed before space did? that space is just a description of the way that particles interact?

what existed before space?
The Cubs' most recent World Series victory.

Time.

MySpace?

Nothing. Seems to me the only way to avoid substituting "space" with the answer and ask the same question again indefinitely.

couldnt particles interact in a nonspacelike way?

cheese in a can

couldnt particles interact in a nonspacelike way?
I think they can. But I'm not sure what it means to say something exists purely in and of itself, independent of space. That would make it non-physical then? What then is the difference between such a "thing" and a concept, a number, an imagination?

I thought that's not what the question was about.

The Cubs' most recent World Series victory.

You mean your "National Series"... Hardly anyone else plays your game...

You mean your "National Series"... Hardly anyone else plays your game...
Take your European arrogance and shove it up your ass. "World" refers to the fact that the team who wins is the best baseball team in the world. Granted, that may not be true anymore what with Japan having some very good teams as well, but honestly, your arrogance is absolutely atrocious.

It's called the "World Series". Get the fuck over it.

MySpace?:lolhit:

I think they can. But I'm not sure what it means to say something exists purely in and of itself, independent of space. That would make it non-physical then? What then is the difference between such a "thing" and a concept, a number, an imagination?

I thought that's not what the question was about.


no i dont think it would be non-physical. it would be a part of objective reality just as much as anything else. why wouldnt it be?

what existed before space?

I would think that if there were no space it would be because the area was occupied. Once the area expanded, or relocated, the distance between that which had occupied would be called space.

Ok, what existed before space? I've given up trying to answer, so I'll say Chuck Norris.

Why not energy?

I believe that within space, there is definately something there. Without energy there is no space. It takes energy to perform a task and in order for you to perform a task, you need the space to do it in. So, before space, there was energy---moving around looking and seeking space to occupy and become living...breathing....

How's that? :drinktoth

Originally posted by Phyrex
Ok, what existed before space? I've given up trying to answer, so I'll say Chuck Norris.
And why is that? Cause he's Chuck-Fucking-Norris, that's why!

The same whatever that surrounds the universe?

what existed before space?
I honestly don't know. I haven't thought that far. That kinda stuff always confuses my religious belifs.

Why not energy?





why not information?

just a black vaccum

just a black vaccum

Is that some ebony porn star? "The black vacuum?"

This is an odd question and I may be in the minority with my answer. Looked at in a pretty simplistic way, we can say that space is a relationship between bodies. The degree or magnitude of space depends upon the disposition of bodies. When I say that there is space between myself and the brick wall, I am saying that should I advance myself a certain number of paces without any degree of resistance, I will make physical contact with the wall. Not only is space a relationship between bodies but a relationship between the movements of our bodies and the tactual sensations that we expect to have as a consequence of those movements. As far as the idea of "pure" space or space absolutely deprived of any bodies, I have difficulty conceiving that idea; nor can I attempt to make a representation of such an idea in my imagination.

Since space is a relationship between material objects, it doesn't really make sense to ask what existed before it. To say that matter or energy existed before space is to already presuppose some notion of space-time. As far as we know, matter can only occupy space and energy represents the transfer of power or a quality: in other words, a body is acting upon another body. But bodies can only act upon other bodies already standing in spatial relations with another. I can imagine a lot of things yet I don't want to argue that things which exist can only depend upon my ability to conceive or imagine them. That's a solipsistic claim. But what I do want to deny is that we can have a pure idea of space: abstracted from all the bodies which furnish us with such ideas.

I like to believe that we are all dying stars

what existed before space?Well, people had to keep in touch via the mail or telephone, or-gasp!- face to face conversations. They kept actual photo albums, instead of these electronic things. "Friends" were actually folks you could rely on and didn't come as mass-mailed spam for lame porno sites. Things were, in many respects, much better before mySpace.

What? Oh, you mean "space" as in, like, outer space, or space-time or some astronomical thingy? Oh, well, never mind!:banana:

I think space may have always been and alway will be. I believe that it is possible that we look for a beginning and the answer is not there because the existence of space in some way has always been.

Chuck Norris created space the first and the only time he's ever farted. Top scientists fear another Norris fart even more than they fear a giant meteor from outer space.

Well, I do remember when other than an USA team won it. Don't remember the Cubs winning it though.