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Imp
07-29-2007, 09:12 PM
I have a question.I have a friend let's say named Mark. He was born in France while his daddy was stationed there in the military. They relocated back to america, so he has dual citizenship right?
Ok, another question would be, if Mark got arrested and went to prison, while in prison they requested his birth certificate and he lost his, how would he go about getting another one, thru the pentagon?
ok, one more. Say they got his birth certificate and found out he was born in france, can they legally deport him? How does that work? It's someone close to me and it's a need to know the facts.

Thanks for any help.

OldPhart
07-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Lionel would probably be the best here to answer this for you.

First question... I would assume the military would have access to his birth certificate (if he was born in a base hospital).

Second question... no, he should be registered as having dual citizenship unless he renounced US citizenship at some point?

YooHoo! LionelHutz, where are you?

mikezila
07-29-2007, 09:26 PM
the children of American citizens are natural born citizens themsleves even if born overseas and not deport-able.

and being born in a foreign country doesn't guarantee citizenship in that country. France might not take him unless his mother is French.

Imp
07-29-2007, 09:29 PM
Lionel would probably be the best here to answer this for you.

First question... I would assume the military would have access to his birth certificate (if he was born in a base hospital).

Second question... no, he should be registered as having dual citizenship unless he renounced US citizenship at some point?

YooHoo! LionelHutz, where are you?

Yes, he was born on a military base.

I need to know how to get ahold of the military to get a copy of it. Someone told me I have to thru the pentagon because they deal with it because of dual citizenships.

No, he has not renounced US citizenship. I'm not sure if he renounced his France citizenship though. Should he have done that at age 21? or do they renounce it after a certain age?

Imp
07-29-2007, 09:31 PM
the children of American citizens are natural born citizens themsleves even if born overseas and not deport-able.

and being born in a foreign country doesn't guarantee citizenship in that country. France might not take him unless his mother is French.
Ok, thats one thing I needed to know. You know this for a fact Mike? *I just need to be positive* I don't want the guy deported.
He doesn't want citizenship in France.

So I just need to contact ANY military base for his birth certificate?

mikezila
07-29-2007, 09:40 PM
Ok, thats one thing I needed to know. You know this for a fact Mike? *I just need to be positive* I don't want the guy deported.
He doesn't want citizenship in France.

So I just need to contact ANY military base for his birth certificate?
yes...it's why the children of Illegals are called "anchor babies". the parents can't get deported, because the children can't be deported..and the Feds aren't in the business of splitting up families. that's the State's job:thumbs:

Napsterbater
07-29-2007, 09:41 PM
and being born in a foreign country doesn't guarantee citizenship in that country.
It should be that way here so we could deport Mexicans' kids right along side the parents.

TurdFerguson
07-29-2007, 09:47 PM
Imp, not sure but the JAG office at the nearest military installation may be able to point you in the right direction.

Imp
07-29-2007, 09:50 PM
Imp, not sure but the JAG office at the nearest military installation may be able to point you in the right direction.

Ok, thank you sweetie, now I have a direction to go.

And thank you OP and Mike, I appreciate it!:thumbs:

Imagineer
07-29-2007, 10:00 PM
Imp, here is a suggestion that could make it much easier. Contact the office of your local Congressman and ask for their help. They have staff just for the purpose of helping citizens from their district in their dealings with the federal bureaucracy, and a phone call from a congressional office gets much more attention than you will individually.

Imp
07-29-2007, 10:13 PM
Imp, here is a suggestion that could make it much easier. Contact the office of your local Congressman and ask for their help. They have staff just for the purpose of helping citizens from their district in their dealings with the federal bureaucracy, and a phone call from a congressional office gets much more attention than you will individually.

Herein a problem lays. I am in TN, Mark is in prison in NY. He has family there, he's not family to me so I'm not sure if I would be able to get it for him.
I am good friends with a NY state senator, I might just have to give him a call tomorrow. Thanks dear.:thumbs:

es347fan
07-30-2007, 04:58 AM
My son was born in the Air Force hospital in Wiesbaden, Germany while I was stationed there. When we brought him to the U.S. the first time we were told that he had dual citizenship status until he was 18 and made a decision about registering for the draft and such. Until that time he could have returned to Germany and been welcomed as a citizen. For a child of American citizens born outside the U.S. to be an automatic U.S. citizen, that birth must take place at an Embassy. The fact that both my wife & I were stationed there made no difference.

A birth certificate should be available through the State Dept.

Call that Senator, make them do the legwork.

Imp
07-30-2007, 06:35 AM
My son was born in the Air Force hospital in Wiesbaden, Germany while I was stationed there. When we brought him to the U.S. the first time we were told that he had dual citizenship status until he was 18 and made a decision about registering for the draft and such. Until that time he could have returned to Germany and been welcomed as a citizen. For a child of American citizens born outside the U.S. to be an automatic U.S. citizen, that birth must take place at an Embassy. The fact that both my wife & I were stationed there made no difference.

A birth certificate should be available through the State Dept.

Call that Senator, make them do the legwork.

I was under the impression Mark had a dual citizenship also, but he never wanted or used it. His daddy was in the military and both parents are american. He was born at the millitary base there.
I will call him and have them do the leg work, and I'll give Mark's family contact info so they can get the certificate.
Thanks sweetie. ;)