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Liberal
07-29-2007, 08:03 PM
This is from the Independent Media Center in Winnipeg, Canada.


Bush Outlaws All War Protests In United States

Posted by Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscr on Thursday, 19th July 2007 (5:00 PM)

19 July 2007

In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war.

President Bush enacted into US law an ‘Executive Order’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order_%28United_States%29) on 17th July titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html), and which says:

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of the 22nd May 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of the 28th August 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of the 29th July 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of the 29th November 2004."

According to Russian legal experts, the greatest concern to the American people are the underlying provisions of this new law, and which, they state, are written ‘so broadly’ as to outlaw all forms of protest against the war. These provisions state:

"(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken."

To the subsection of this new US law, according to these legal experts, that says "...the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit...", the insertion of the word ‘services ’ has broad, and catastrophic, consequences for the American people in that any act deemed by their government to be against the Iraqi war is, in fact, supporting the ‘enemy’ and therefore threatens the ‘stabilization of Iraq’.

In an even greater affront to the American people are the provisions of a law called The Patriot Act (http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/17343res20031114.html), and that should they run afoul of this new law they are forbidden to allow anyone to know about it, and as we can read as reported by the Seattle Times News Service (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2002527215_patrioted29.html).

"The (Patriot) act also expands the use of National Security Letters, which are a kind of warrant that the Justice Department writes for itself, authorizing its agents to seize such things as records of money movements, telephone calls and Internet visits. Recipients of a National Security Letter are not allowed to tell anyone about them, and so cannot contest them."

It is interesting to note, too, that this is not the first time that the United States has unleashed the brutal power of their government against its citizens to further their war aims and stifle domestic dissent, as during the European conflict of World War I they enacted a law called The Sedition Act of 1918 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918) and which "...forbade Americans to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, flag, or armed forces during war."

It is curious to note that after the enactment of this new law there has been no protest by any of the other political leaders in the United States, with the exception of the only Muslim member of the United States Congress, Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison (http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/07/17/critics_muslim_rep_likened_bush_hitler/6980/), and who compared President Bush to the Nazi War Leader Adolph Hitler by stating the attacks upon the World Trade Center could be likened to the burning of the Reichstag.

Today, as the United States faces an imminent economic collapse (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1019.htm), while at the same time its war bill has reached the staggering amount of $648 thousand millions (http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/194233.html), one of the last freedoms the American people have had to protest their leaders actions against them, and other peoples in the World, has now been taken away from them, the freedom to speak and write in opposition to what is being done to them.

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear" (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_orwell.html), said the great British writer George Orwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell), but, and sadly, liberty has been lost to the once free people of the United States who are no longer allowed to tell their leaders, or each other, what they don’t want to hear.

With this being so, the American people should, likewise, contemplate their ‘new’ future, and as, also, stated best by George Orwell, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_orwell.html).

Link: "What Does It mean". (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1023.htm)

OldPhart
07-29-2007, 09:12 PM
I have read the order... please show me where no one can protest the war?

Consider me to be all ears

Freethinker
07-29-2007, 09:54 PM
I have read the order... please show me where no one can protest the war?

To the subsection of this new US law, according to these legal experts, that says "...the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit...", the insertion of the word ‘services ’ has broad, and catastrophic, consequences for the American people in that any act deemed by their government to be against the Iraqi war is, in fact, supporting the ‘enemy’ and therefore threatens the ‘stabilization of Iraq’.


What part of that do you not understand to be a limitation on protests against the war?!?!?!?

I consider you to be NO ears.

IOW, your willfull blindness ---endemic to the Reichwing personality such as yourself-- will blind you to the clearly stated parameters of this law.

Jester
07-29-2007, 09:59 PM
Under a very broad interpretation, this executive order could be used to stifle protest against the war. However, I doubt that any sane judge would buy such an interpretation.

Shilohproject
07-29-2007, 10:27 PM
To believe this would result in an arrest for lawful protest is to be defined as utterly mental! This is so stupid. We have real enough concerns right now that we don't need to erode any credibility based on the asinine opinions of "Russian legal experts" or any fly-away dings who see jackboots around every corner! Stupid...

Evil Homer
07-29-2007, 11:23 PM
I read it too, and to squelch protests would take a very very very VERY liberal interpretation. The order forbids aiding organizations which promote violence...and that's all it says.

Imminent economic collapse...I chuckled at that.

dharmabum
07-30-2007, 12:06 AM
Under a very broad interpretation, this executive order could be used to stifle protest against the war. However, I doubt that any sane judge would buy such an interpretation.


How convenient then, that they have already purged the Justice Department of any U.S. Prosecutors who could bring such a case who were not "loyal Bushies".

Sparky2
07-30-2007, 04:35 AM
Looks like indisputable proof to me.

(Sure, you have to read between the lines, and it takes an incredible leap of logic to surmise that this is an insidious plot to squelch all war protesting. But thanks to some highly reputable, though as-yet unnamed Russian legal experts, we have been handed the smoking gun in the evidence trail against Gee Dubya Bush.)

Yep, it's indisputable proof, all right.

:woohoo:

OldPhart
07-30-2007, 05:08 AM
To the subsection of this new US law, according to these legal experts, that says "...the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit...", the insertion of the word ‘services ’ has broad, and catastrophic, consequences for the American people in that any act deemed by their government to be against the Iraqi war is, in fact, supporting the ‘enemy’ and therefore threatens the ‘stabilization of Iraq’.


What part of that do you not understand to be a limitation on protests against the war?!?!?!?

I consider you to be NO ears.

IOW, your willfull blindness ---endemic to the Reichwing personality such as yourself-- will blind you to the clearly stated parameters of this law.

Where do you get I'm a "Reichwing personality" FT?

Of course I know most everyone on the planet is right of your political opinions, but I am far from a right winger. It just so happens that I do not interpret this action as a move to squelch anti-war protests... of course I am not a lawyer... I'm assuming you are?

If not, then I would have to consider you to be NO eyes.

Phyrex
07-30-2007, 05:35 AM
Where do you get I'm a "Reichwing personality" FT?

Of course I know most everyone on the planet is right of your political opinions, but I am far from a right winger. It just so happens that I do not interpret this action as a move to squelch anti-war protests... of course I am not a lawyer... I'm assuming you are?

If not, then I would have to consider you to be NO eyes.

Don't worry, anyone that doesn't agree with him is "Reichwing."

"According to Russian legal experts.." That made me laugh a little by the way.

koutaka
07-30-2007, 06:11 AM
Outlaw Abe protests All Elections In Japan.(´・ω・`)

Ah, about matter of state sponsoring terrorism on North Korea? I guess US can lift the designation and set down that named like "state pending kidnapping."
Abe will resign when Lower House election in 2009 in Japan by Japanese law. Abe is going to be ordered it as long as Liberal Democratic Party will lose in the election. It's by Japanese law.

Frogger
07-30-2007, 07:24 AM
Don't worry, Liberal, Freethinker and Dharmabum. I have three tinfoil hats waiting for you that will protect you from the evil President Bush and all those black helicopters you see circling overhead. Just wear the hats until the mothership lands and picks you up and takes you safely to cloudcuckooland.

Napsterbater
07-30-2007, 07:35 AM
Is there anybody out there who is a little anxious over this? Look at it this way, it was already illegal to do all the things listed on the Executive Order, if it wasn't meant to curb our civil liberties. Seriously, all it says is, "Block all the bad guys when they try to do bad shit!" Something smells a little fishy there. And if there's one thing we've learned about the Bush administration, it's their extreme duplicitousness.

Genzo
07-30-2007, 08:55 AM
Under a very broad interpretation, this executive order could be used to stifle protest against the war. However, I doubt that any sane judge would buy such an interpretation.

Luckily that's all our benches are packed with.

dharmabum
07-30-2007, 09:43 AM
Looks like indisputable proof to me.

What exactly do you think it is "indisputable proof" of?

dharmabum
07-30-2007, 10:06 AM
Extra Charges Filed Against Protestors in Illinois. (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/downersgrovesun/news/482924,6_1_NA26_DSPROTEST_S1.article)

Frogger
07-30-2007, 10:23 AM
Dharmabum,

I want to be sure to get your hat size correct for your tinfoil hat. I want it to fit perfectly. Judging from the way you post I would guess your hat size to be an extra, extra small with the left side bigger than the right side. Right?

Evil Homer
07-30-2007, 02:24 PM
That link has nothing to do with the executive order. In fact, it seems that these people violated state laws. If I'm correct in that, then I demand you return those minutes of my life back which I wasted reading that. If it is federal, well, then I retract that last statement.

NEM
08-02-2007, 11:43 AM
Under a very broad interpretation, this executive order could be used to stifle protest against the war. However, I doubt that any sane judge would buy such an interpretation.

Think again. All one has to do is look at how this fascist pig has controlled the judiciary.

The Praetorian
08-02-2007, 03:20 PM
Think again. All one has to do is look at how this fascist pig has controlled the judiciary.
68 and still fighting "the good fight", eh? Color me impressed by your acumen. It's rare to hear someone who probably sports a diaper make sooooo much sense.

Napsterbater
08-02-2007, 06:24 PM
This guy's been around longer than I have!

LiquidFork
08-02-2007, 06:47 PM
Everyone is agruing about this and that about the original post but no one realizes it ISNT TRUE. None of it is. It is a editorial satire post from some dum canadian who thinks they are an american political expert. RELAX!

Freethinker
08-02-2007, 07:08 PM
Everyone is agruing about this and that about the original post but no one realizes it ISNT TRUE. None of it is.

:rolleyes:

You might want to re-think the claim that it is false.

It was publicized on the whitehouse.gov website.

There is very little that these fucks will NOT lie about, but it makes no sense whatsoever that they would have falsified the report that B*sh had signed the Executive Order in question;

...said order giving B*sh the power to outlaw citizens of this country protesting against the war.

Brooks
08-02-2007, 07:34 PM
A couple was sitting in a park next to Lake Michigan when the President passed by with Secret Service.

"Regardless of what my views are, Mrs. Mendoza apparently does feel that [he] is responsible. At an event known as the Taste of Chicago, she allegedly said to him "You suck. And those boys died."

Fifteen minutes after [the President] left, she was arrested for her comments. Her husband Glenn shouted out to her that she might need a lawyer. This intolerable use of speech caused him to be arrested as well."

This law is nothing new.

dharmabum
08-03-2007, 09:08 AM
This law is nothing new.

What "law"?

Is there a "You must not say anything negative in the President's presense" law?

Frogger
08-03-2007, 09:16 AM
68 and still fighting "the good fight", eh? Color me impressed by your acumen. It's rare to hear someone who probably sports a diaper make sooooo much sense.

It's always great when someone's IQ matches his age.:lolhit:

Brooks
08-03-2007, 09:38 AM
What "law"?
Is there a "You must not say anything negative in the President's presense" law?Nope. This woman staged her own little war protest and got locked up for it. If she yelled "You're doing a great job sir" she wouldn't have been arrested.