(A) Don't Steal (B) Don't covet your neighbor's wife and property. (C) Don't boil a young goat in the milk of its mother. (D) Love your neighbor as yourself.

C. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk...or something like that ;)

11) Thall shalt not shave the monkey.

12) Do not covet thy neighbor's Oldsmobile 442, damnit.

:eek:

B

.... but I want my neighbor's wife and property (if only for a short bit)....

Not that I really care either way.... but one of my neighbor's is an ass, and his wife needs to be screwed with a barb-wire rubber... just to "loosen her up" a bit.

Guess I'm going to hell....

(A) Don't Steal (B) Don't covet your neighbor's wife and property. (C) Don't boil a young goat in the milk of its mother. (D) Love your neighbor as yourself.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved for the States respectively, or to the people."

What is commonly called the Ten Commandments is a list of more than ten commands and prohibitions addressed to the Hebrew people. The last of these deals with coveting things that belong to your neighbor, or in other words, fellow Hebrews.

The Commandments were meant to list those things that were necessary for a people to be able to live together in amity. They deal with worship, group relations and personal actions and responsibility.

well vile pagan you are correct in chosing C. Believe it or not, this prohibition says thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk(I hope they were talking about goats). (Exodus 34:26) is the official tenth commandment, for the only set of stone tablets that were called "the ten commandments". There were three set of commandments: 1)the first time moses came down Mount Sinai, with commandments, he merely recited a list(Exodus 20:2-17), which is the version most churches today erroneously call the "Ten Commandments." 2)the firsrt set of stone tablets ere given to Moses at a subsequent trip up the mountain(Exodus 31:18). Then Moses supposedly destroyed these tablets when he saw the people worshipping the golden calf. (Exodus 32:19). 3)So he went back for a replacement. God told Moses:"Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first:and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest."(Exodus 34:1) Here is what was on the replacement tablets(from Exodus 34:14-26). 1)Thou shalt worship no other God.2)Thous shalt make thee no molten gods. 3)The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep.4)Six days thou shalt work,but on the seventh day thou shalt rest.5)Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks.6)Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord God.7)Thou shalt no offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.8)Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left until the morning.9)The first of the firstfruits of thy land shalt thou bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. 10)thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Keep this in mind net time you are tempted to boil a goat.

well vile pagan you are correct in chosing C.
This statute, while indeed is one of many commandments, is not generally considered one of the 10 Commandments.

10)thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Keep this in mind net time you are tempted to boil a goat.

You never seem to quote the entire scripture or even try to show the meaning of it. You only set out to describe your own agenda with no regard for the truth.
It's unadulterated ignorance and the one thing I see Atheist fight the most to avoid.
Which leaves you in a class all your own.

19 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk.

You never seem to quote the entire scripture or even try to show the meaning of it. You only set out to describe your own agenda with no regard for the truth.
It's unadulterated ignorance and the one thing I see Atheist fight the most to avoid.
Which leaves you in a class all your own.

19 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk. Well actually I thought the first part was Exodus 34:25. My mistake, but depending on which bible you look it it actually says "The choicest first-fruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thous shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk." And this thread was what was the last commandment and it says what I say plus a little more. So what! How does that have anything to do with describing my own agenda with no regard for the truth? It doesn't. I'm all about the truth. Not fairytales. You can really find no way to debate in any kind of civilized manner so you result to insults. Which leaves you in a class with a lot of other ignorant people just like you!

You deliberately twisted the quote to take a jab at Christianity. Really now, you weren't being all that subtle.

Well actually I thought the first part was Exodus 34:25. My mistake, but depending on which bible you look it it actually says "The choicest first-fruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thous shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk." And this thread was what was the last commandment and it says what I say plus a little more. So what!


E= what? eh, we don't really need that last part.


How does that have anything to do with describing my own agenda with no regard for the truth? It doesn't. I'm all about the truth. Not fairytales. You can really find no way to debate in any kind of civilized manner so you result to insults. Which leaves you in a class with a lot of other ignorant people just like you!

You change the equation and join the ignorant club yourself, thats how it describes your agenda.
With each post you make you really come off as more of a moron.

Well actually I thought the first part was Exodus 34:25. My mistake, but depending on which bible you look it it actually says "The choicest first-fruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thous shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk." And this thread was what was the last commandment and it says what I say plus a little more. So what! How does that have anything to do with describing my own agenda with no regard for the truth? It doesn't. I'm all about the truth. Not fairytales. You can really find no way to debate in any kind of civilized manner so you result to insults. Which leaves you in a class with a lot of other ignorant people just like you!

If you chose to believe that you "have it all figured out" and don't want to follow any "fairy tales", so be it. If you think that attacking those that have a belief in something that you think is "silly", then, you sir, are no more than a troll and a fool.

But then again, you are all about the "truth". Then tell me which religion is right? None? Then what's it all about?

We are just here for a while and cease to exist after death? No problem if that is what you believe... but now do you KNOW you are correct? What if you are not? You KNOW for sure?

You deliberately twisted the quote to take a jab at Christianity. Really now, you weren't being all that subtle.
I did not delieberately twist anything. And that still does not change what the second part said!!! And who said I had to be subtle? Now go stare at your walls!

You seem to revel in controvercy, afinertouch5. Basically you are a bit of a troll. You post topics not to start conversations and discussions but to enflame and annoy. You have done it in just about every thread in which you have participated.

If you chose to believe that you "have it all figured out" and don't want to follow any "fairy tales", so be it. If you think that attacking those that have a belief in something that you think is "silly", then, you sir, are no more than a troll and a fool.

But then again, you are all about the "truth". Then tell me which religion is right? None? Then what's it all about?

We are just here for a while and cease to exist after death? No problem if that is what you believe... but now do you KNOW you are correct? What if you are not? You KNOW for sure?
You do know what your in danger of when you call someone a fool don't you? I guess you don't know your bible so well! Where did I say that I have it all figured out"? I didn't. And that is just a stupid statement on your part. And why would you want to ask me for answers if you claim I'm a fool? Wouldn't that make you even more of one? Seeing your previous silly post I would assume your not worth debating because like Inviolable you don't know how but you certainly know how to call people names when you can't think of anything else to say!

You seem to revel in contravercy, afinertouch5. Basically you are a bit of a troll. You post topics not to start conversations and discussions but to enflame and annoy. You have done it in just about every thread in which you have participated.
Yawn!

What is commonly called the Ten Commandments is a list of more than ten commands and prohibitions addressed to the Hebrew people. The last of these deals with coveting things that belong to your neighbor, or in other words, fellow Hebrews.

The Commandments were meant to list those things that were necessary for a people to be able to live together in amity. They deal with worship, group relations and personal actions and responsibility.
Yes, personal actions like loving your neighbor, which meant loving your jewish neighbors. It did not mean loving the neighboring tribes or other outsiders. As the intolerant and bloody old testament (and Christian) history proves!

E= what? eh, we don't really need that last part.



You change the equation and join the ignorant club yourself, thats how it describes your agenda.
With each post you make you really come off as more of a moron.
How does the first part of it change what the second part says? It doesn't now does it? If it does please tell us how it does instead of just calling me names! Is that really all you have inviolable? My post just ask what the last commandment was and that was what I put. The part you said was the ninth commandment according to Jesus!!! So the tenth commandment would have been Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk according to Exodus 34:14-26. Or that is what it seems to say to me anyway.

afinertouch5,

You seem to have an excess of vitriol and a shortness of historical knowledge. Of course the Hebrews were most interested in keeping close relations among themselves. They were basicallly on a constant war footing and had to remain united. They were surrounded by enemies on all sides and unification was their only hope. If they allowed themselves to be seperated they would have been overwhelmed by their enemies.

The Hebrews (Abiru) were a relatively small, wandering tribe trying to form a homeland after being held in bondage in Egypt. Of course they didn't love their neighbors. They were competing with their neighbors for a limited amount of fertile land with sufficient water and grazing. As the Egyptian Empire was breaking up the Hebrews were fighting the Canaanites, Amonites, Kedarites, Moabites, Edomites, Geshuites, Aramites and other groups for the land. They were an invading force trying to displace the people who were already there.

A)Jealous B)Righteous C)Holy D)Jehovah

God has 72 known names. none of which should be written on a disposable media by a true believer.

depending on the intent of your question, it's all of the above.

Mike,

The intent of afinertouch5's question is the same intent as all his questions about religion, to stir the pot. afinertouch5 has no interest in knowing the names of God. He is simply doing his usual trolling exercise.

Mike,

The intent of afinertouch5's question is the same intent as all his questions about religion, to stir the pot. afinertouch5 has no interest in knowing the names of God. He is simply doing his usual trolling exercise.
i know, but it's more fun for the fish to steal the bait:)

I have a close, personal relationship with God.

I started out by addressing Him as Your Holiness, and/or Father.
Eventually, he just put His hand on my shoulder and said,
"Please, just call me Skip."

"Skip?" I exclaimed. "What kind of name is that for an all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful God?"

"It's a memory tool. Reminding you of the consequences."

"Consequences of what, Your Holin.... uh, I mean Skip?"

"Oh, I don't know," He grinned as he slipped on His motorcycle helmet and threw His leg over His Vespa scooter. "Why don't you try skipping church, skip donating to the collection plate, skip being good to others, or skipping your daily prayers? Then see what happens to you."

He hit the starter button, and motored on down the driveway and out onto the highway.

"What?" I cried. "Will I go to hell or what?"

No response from God. He rode His Vespa on down the road and out of sight, and all that remained was a blue trail of 2-cycle oil smoke.

"And bring some BEER next time you come, okay??" I shouted.
"Darn God," I muttered. "Drops by for a cold one, never brings his own beer, and speaks in riddles to boot."

I kicked a small pebble, and turned to go inside.
"This religion business is complicated. Kind of makes my head hurt."

I went inside and cracked open another beer.

:smile2:

i know, but it's more fun for the fish to steal the bait:)
More fun for the fish to steal the bait. What in the world are you talking about? And what is a werido? I mean it says your one on your profile! And to say a true believer can't answer the question is not true. That's is just your opinion. And if you don't want to debate religion than why are you on in this debate forum? I really can't believe the amount of people that can't answer a simple question without getting all hissy about it. Take frogger,Inviolable and Smartmouthwomen to name a few!

God has 72 known names.
Is God that group of virgins that hangs out with suicide bombers?

afinertouch5,

You seem to have an excess of vitriol and a shortness of historical knowledge. Of course the Hebrews were most interested in keeping close relations among themselves. They were basicallly on a constant war footing and had to remain united. They were surrounded by enemies on all sides and unification was their only hope. If they allowed themselves to be seperated they would have been overwhelmed by their enemies.

The Hebrews (Abiru) were a relatively small, wandering tribe trying to form a homeland after being held in bondage in Egypt. Of course they didn't love their neighbors. They were competing with their neighbors for a limited amount of fertile land with sufficient water and grazing. As the Egyptian Empire was breaking up the Hebrews were fighting the Canaanites, Amonites, Kedarites, Moabites, Edomites, Geshuites, Aramites and other groups for the land. They were an invading force trying to displace the people who were already there.
So in essence, what you are saying, is that the ten commandments are not for everyone? Just the Herbrews!

afinertouch5,
...Of course the Hebrews were most interested in keeping close relations among themselves. They were basicallly on a constant war footing and had to remain united. They were surrounded by enemies on all sides and unification was their only hope. If they allowed themselves to be seperated they would have been overwhelmed by their enemies.


True, and it seems so today.
John Hagee said this morning that the leader of Iran said that he wanted to see an end to Israel and the United States.
Hagee then said that Russia is the kingdom of the north and wants to be a super power again. This can be accomplished with the oil that is in the Middle East. He said that sometime in the future Russia will send military specialists to Iran and other parts of the Middle East to lead the Moslems against Israel to destroy them.

Hagee next said that at this time the god of the Moslems (Allah) will come up against the god of Abraham, and 3 out of 4 Moslems will be destroyed by some supernatural means, and those left alive will return home defeated.

Opinions?

I do not think I can help on this one, I will try.

I cannot pronounce the name of god, let alone spell it.

It rhymes with a beautiful sunset.
It sounds like a child's voice at play.
It smells like a red rose in bloom.
It feels like the touch of a loved one- reassuring another.
It looks like the gentle wind blowing the trees on a cool spring day.

I just can't quite get the pronunciation correct!

True, and it seems so today.
John Hagee said this morning that the leader of Iran said that he wanted to see an end to Israel and the United States.
Hagee then said that Russia is the kingdom of the north and wants to be a super power again. This can be accomplished with the oil that is in the Middle East. He said that sometime in the future Russia will send military specialists to Iran and other parts of the Middle East to lead the Moslems against Israel to destroy them.

Hagee next said that at this time the god of the Moslems (Allah) will come up against the god of Abraham, and 3 out of 4 Moslems will be destroyed by some supernatural means, and those left alive will return home defeated.

Opinions?

I don't know this man. Is he some evangelical whack job that thinks God is speaking to him and he must pass it on or does he come across as bonifide and balanced?

I don't know this man. Is he some evangelical whack job that thinks God is speaking to him and he must pass it on or does he come across as bonifide and balanced?

I am not sure Sal, I believe he is a Canadian, you can read about him at:
http://www.jhm.org/pastor.asp and get some info.

What is commonly called the Ten Commandments ..... were meant to list those things that were necessary for a people to be able to live together in amity. They deal with worship, group relations and personal actions and responsibility.

And, let us not forget, these "Commandments" also deal with earth shatteringly important moral dilemmas; like whether or not it is good to boil a young goat in it's mothers milk. :rolleyes:

I guess it makes sense to superstitionists that the magical, omnipotent Creator 'O the Universe would be extremely concerned over the crucial topic of proper goat boiling procedure.......

ROTFLMAO.

You can't make this shit up. It's hilarious.

I really can't believe the amount of people that can't answer a simple question without getting all hissy about it. Take frogger, Inviolable and Smartmouthwomen to name a few!

But you ask rational questions which --when they are unable to answer them-- cause them to look foolish for "believing in" the preposterous notion of some "god" in the sky. That shames them and infuriates them.

But then, all superstionists become enraged when their insupportable, nonsensical beliefs are dragged into the light of day.

And, let us not forget, these "Commandments" also deal with earth shatteringly important moral dilemmas; like whether or not it is good to boil a young goat in it's mothers milk. :rolleyes:

I guess it makes sense to superstitionists that the magical, omnipotent Creator 'O the Universe would be extremely concerned over the crucial topic of proper goat boiling procedure.......

ROTFLMAO.

You can't make this shit up. It's hilarious.

I have read that many of the do nots, about food, in the Christian Bible were added for health reasons. I do not know if this is one or not.

I am not sure Sal, I believe he is a Canadian, you can read about him at:
http://www.jhm.org/pastor.asp and get some info.

Interesting. He has a ministry within Canada but also in the States. He is American. According to the books he has written he seems very focused on Revelations and end times.

Hagee next said that at this time the god of the Moslems (Allah) will come up against the god of Abraham, and 3 out of 4 Moslems will be destroyed by some supernatural means, and those left alive will return home defeated.

Opinions?

He's a nutjob.

This thread illustrates the danger of trying to interpret biblical verses without benefit of a good concordance. People pick a particular Bible verse as afinertoch5 does and attempt to use it as a weapon to refute The Bible.

The verses discussing seething a kid in its mother's milk refer to a religious practice of the Canaanites by which they boiled a young kid in its mother's milk and then annointed their growing crops with the milk as a form of fertility rite. The Hebrews are being enjoined to not follow heathen customs but to rather tithe by giving of the firstborn and best of their flocks and herds. The firstborn of their flocks have taken the place of the firstborn children demanded by Moloch, a god worshiped by many of their neighbors.

What purpose is served by enumerating the names of God?

How does the first part of it change what the second part says? It doesn't now does it?

Yes it does and I keep telling you, if youre going to put the bible under such examination you should check them all out.
The Torah would be helpful here.

If it does please tell us how it does instead of just calling me names! Is that really all you have inviolable? My post just ask what the last commandment was and that was what I put. The part you said was the ninth commandment according to Jesus!!! So the tenth commandment would have been Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk according to Exodus 34:14-26. Or that is what it seems to say to me anyway.

Did you know Jesus is mentioned in the Torah and a few Talmud'?
Not as a saviour, but as a teacher.
Good eating was one of his topics. Which is recited by a Rabbi from one of the ten commandments.
Which commandment you ask..
The tenth.
Which describes ways of avoiding sickness and staying healthy when it comes to food.
roughly 3 thousand years ago.

Here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut
and here
http://www.kolel.org/pages/5762/reeh.html

In one of the post I left for you when you got here I told you Frogger knows more then you do so listen to him, which you have yet to do.
The Torah is made up of mostly OT books, Jewish law.
The original Torah is made up of 4 OT books, new information has been added to it over the years in the form of a Talmud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah

The teaching lesson is over from here on out, I am just going to slam you in debate.

What purpose is served by enumerating the names of God?In The Nine Billion Names of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God) the purpose was to end all existence. :eek:

Just to go back to the original question:
1. No other Gods
2. No idols
3. No "name in vain"
4. Sabbath
5. Honor your folks
6. No murdering
7. No adultry
8. No stealing
9. No lying 'bout folks
10. No covetting

(Based on, though not entirely quoted, per se, from, Ex 20.1-17.)

Why is there this running dispute? What am I so dense as to be missing here? Help!

In The Nine Billion Names of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God) the purpose was to end all existence. :eek:

That would've made a really cool episode of the Twilight Zone, black and white of course.

More fun for the fish to steal the bait. What in the world are you talking about? And what is a werido? I mean it says your one on your profile! And to say a true believer can't answer the question is not true. That's is just your opinion. And if you don't want to debate religion than why are you on in this debate forum? I really can't believe the amount of people that can't answer a simple question without getting all hissy about it. Take frogger,Inviolable and Smartmouthwomen to name a few!

Lets ask a simple question then, sense you dont see any problem with asking them yourself I'm sure you wont mind answering.

Why ask?

Lets ask a simple question then, sense you dont see any problem with asking them yourself I'm sure you wont mind answering.

Why ask?
Inviolable, why should I answer you question since(not sense) you have not answered mine? Start you own thread if you have a different topic. Geez!:lolhit:

This thread illustrates the danger of trying to interpret biblical verses without benefit of a good concordance. People pick a particular Bible verse as afinertoch5 does and attempt to use it as a weapon to refute The Bible.

The verses discussing seething a kid in its mother's milk refer to a religious practice of the Canaanites by which they boiled a young kid in its mother's milk and then annointed their growing crops with the milk as a form of fertility rite. The Hebrews are being enjoined to not follow heathen customs but to rather tithe by giving of the firstborn and best of their flocks and herds. The firstborn of their flocks have taken the place of the firstborn children demanded by Moloch, a god worshiped by many of their neighbors.
Nope just have a bunch of bible questions and wanted to see who could get the correct answer! And it has not been you so far. The only person who has got a question right is Vile Pagan. Vile Pagan=1 Everybody else=0.

More fun for the fish to steal the bait. What in the world are you talking about? And what is a weirdo? I mean it says your one on your profile! And to say a true believer can't answer the question is not true. That's is just your opinion. And if you don't want to debate religion than why are you on in this debate forum? I really can't believe the amount of people that can't answer a simple question without getting all hissy about it. Take frogger,Inviolable and Smartmouthwomen to name a few!
trolling is also a fishing techique...fish, bait. if you can't find the connection, you should step away from the computer and go outside.

Just to go back to the original question:
1. No other Gods
2. No idols
3. No "name in vain"
4. Sabbath
5. Honor your folks
6. No murdering
7. No adultry
8. No stealing
9. No lying 'bout folks
10. No covetting

(Based on, though not entirely quoted, per se, from, Ex 20.1-17.)

Why is there this running dispute? What am I so dense as to be missing here? Help! Well according to the bible, the replacement tablets(from Exodus (34:14-26) that is not the tenth commandment. This list differs,obvioulsy, from Exodus 20, but it is only this list that is called "The Ten Commandments:"And he wrote upon the tablles the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."(Exodus 34:28). The first time Moses came down Mount Sanai with commandments, he merely recited a list(Exodus 20:2-17) which is the version most churches today erroneously, call the "Ten Commandments," although they were not engraved on stone tablets and not called the ten commandments.

Well according to the bible, the replacement tablets(from Exodus (34:14-26) that is not the tenth commandment. This list differs,obvioulsy, from Exodus 20, but it is only this list that is called "The Ten Commandments:"And he wrote upon the tablles the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."(Exodus 34:28). The first time Moses came down Mount Sanai with commandments, he merely recited a list(Exodus 20:2-17) which is the version most churches today erroneously, call the "Ten Commandments," although they were not engraved on stone tablets and not called the ten commandments.Scholars refer to this collection of commandments as the "Ritual Decalogue," (Ex 34.1-35) to distinguish them from the original 10 (ex. 20.2-17). A cross reference is worth looking at in Deut. 5.7-21.

Given that words are meant to convey ideas, can you admit that it is a bit disingenuious (or at least a trick question!) to refer to anything else as "The Ten Commandments," since that original collection, also known as the Decalogue, is widely accepted by that name?

Inviolable, why should I answer you question since(not sense) you have not answered mine? Start you own thread if you have a different topic. Geez!:lolhit:

Thanks for the correction, I'll keep that in mind.

So, you want me to start a thread that ask why you ask about Gods names?

So, you want me to start a thread that ask why you ask about Gods names?The point to "why ask?" is that right next to the Ritual Decalogue in Exodus, at v.14, there is the statement which says; "...the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."

Finertouch is trying to point out, it seems, in this thread and the one re the Ten Commandments, that people are not so aware of the roots of their religion, its little weirdnesses, or are not very familiar with the text they claim to adore...or some such thing. That's my guess. (Am I close?)

My guess is, hes to stupid to understand that we really have no clue what hes doing. So while we're all trying to guess, we're giving the wrong answers to a reason he hasn't brought to light yet.
This in turn helps him to highlight the contradiction he is going to point out when he finally does let us all in on his little secret.
Considering Afinertouch is all about bible contradictions.

In effect hes trying to win a debate without ever actually having a debate.

Scholars refer to this collection of commandments as the "Ritual Decalogue," (Ex 34.1-35) to distinguish them from the original 10 (ex. 20.2-17). A cross reference is worth looking at in Deut. 5.7-21.

Given that words are meant to convey ideas, can you admit that it is a bit disingenuious (or at least a trick question!) to refer to anything else as "The Ten Commandments," since that original collection, also known as the Decalogue, is widely accepted by that name?
Well I was not posting what I thought was a disingenious question, but I guess you might think it is a trick question but don't blame me for apparent contradictions in the bible. The first time moses came down Mount Sinai with commandments, he merely recited a list(Exodus 20:17),which is the version most churches today call the "Ten Commandments"(I am not disagreeing with that)although they were not engraved in stone tablets and not called the ten commandments. The first set of stone tablets were given to Moses at a subsuquent trip up the mountain(Exodus 31:18). In this story, Moses destroyed the tablets when he saw the people worshipping the golden calf(Exodus 32:19). So then Moses went back for a replacement. God told Moses:"Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first:and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables,which thou breakest.(Exodus 34:1). Here is what was on the replacement tablets(from Exodus 34:14-26) 1)Thou shalt worship no other God. 2)Though shalt make thee no molten gods.3)The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep.4)Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest.5)Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks.6)Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord God.7)Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.8)Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left until the morning.9)The first of the first fruits of they land shalt thou bring unto the house of the Lord thy God.10)Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. This list differs from the one in Exodus 20 but it is called the "Ten Commandments""And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."(Exodus 34:28). I know the version used by most people is different,however it does say this is the ten comandments. So this seems to me to be a contradiction.

Yes it does and I keep telling you, if youre going to put the bible under such examination you should check them all out.
The Torah would be helpful here.


Did you know Jesus is mentioned in the Torah and a few Talmud'?
Not as a saviour, but as a teacher.
Good eating was one of his topics. Which is recited by a Rabbi from one of the ten commandments.
Which commandment you ask..
The tenth.
Which describes ways of avoiding sickness and staying healthy when it comes to food.
roughly 3 thousand years ago.

Here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut
and here
http://www.kolel.org/pages/5762/reeh.html

In one of the post I left for you when you got here I told you Frogger knows more then you do so listen to him, which you have yet to do.
The Torah is made up of mostly OT books, Jewish law.
The original Torah is made up of 4 OT books, new information has been added to it over the years in the form of a Talmud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah

The teaching lesson is over from here on out, I am just going to slam you in debate.
Well the only thing you have taught me is how hard-headed you are. And I read Mr. Frogger condescending replys to me. He has bashed me since I have been here. Just like you little man. And I already know he is right all the time. It says so by his little frog! So I look forward to when you slam me in debate. I'm not going to hold my breath though!:eek:

I do not think I can help on this one, I will try.

I cannot pronounce the name of god, let alone spell it.

It rhymes with a beautiful sunset.
It sounds like a child's voice at play.
It smells like a red rose in bloom.
It feels like the touch of a loved one- reassuring another.
It looks like the gentle wind blowing the trees on a cool spring day.

I just can't quite get the pronunciation correct!
Who asked for help? It was a multiple choice question. Posting a poem was not one of the answers. Try again.

My guess is, hes to stupid to understand that we really have no clue what hes doing. So while we're all trying to guess, we're giving the wrong answers to a reason he hasn't brought to light yet.
This in turn helps him to highlight the contradiction he is going to point out when he finally does let us all in on his little secret.
Considering Afinertouch is all about bible contradictions.

In effect hes trying to win a debate without ever actually having a debate.
Inviolable you have yet tried to even answer the question! It is a multiple choice question and all you have to do is pick the answer you think is correct. It is really an easy thing to do but your such a drama queen it goes right over your head. I realize that you are clueless by your past postings. You can't even answer a question without getting all hissy about it and all you have left is your childish name calling. Now if you can't answer the question why are you here? I will tell you just to attack me. That is your only goal now isn't it. Your surely not trying to show me how loving and caring being a christian makes you. Am I right?

Inviolable you have yet tried to even answer the question! It is a multiple choice question and all you have to do is pick the answer you think is correct. It is really an easy thing to do but your such a drama queen it goes right over your head. I realize that you are clueless by your past postings. You can't even answer a question without getting all hissy about it and all you have left is your childish name calling. Now if you can't answer the question why are you here? I will tell you just to attack me. That is your only goal now isn't it. Your surely not trying to show me how loving and caring being a christian makes you. Am I right?


Just a question right?
Thats all I asked, was a question and you didnt seem to answer yourself.

Which name would you like?
The Greek, Jesus?
The Hebrew, Yeshua or Yahshua or Messiah

I just say God.

And no, a loving caring Christian also defends the faith, which is something you've been assualting "sinse" the very first post you made here.


http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Esoteric/esoteric.html

[QUOTE=Inviolable]Just a question right?
Thats all I asked, was a question and you didnt seem to answer yourself.

Which name would you like?
The Greek, Jesus?
The Hebrew, Yeshua or Yahshua or Messiah

I just say God.

And no, a loving caring Christian also defends the faith, which is something you've been assualting "sinse" the very first post you made here.
So, fuck you.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Esoteric/esoteric.html[/QU Sorry, the question has already been correctly answered by Shiloproject! Your answer was wrong anyway!

The point to "why ask?" is that right next to the Ritual Decalogue in Exodus, at v.14, there is the statement which says; "...the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."

Finertouch is trying to point out, it seems, in this thread and the one re the Ten Commandments, that people are not so aware of the roots of their religion, its little weirdnesses, or are not very familiar with the text they claim to adore...or some such thing. That's my guess. (Am I close?)
The answer was A)Jealous Current score VilePagan=1 Shiloproject=1 Invilolable=Zero

Actually the answer was any of the four choices.

In an attempt to be a bit of a weisenheimer, afinertouch5 outsmarted himself.

Yes, God is named Jealous. God is also named Jehovah and Holy (Holy God of Israel, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit of Promise) and Righteous (Rgteous Branch, Righteous Father).

Were afinertouch5 honestly interested in knowing the name(s) of God that would be one thing but that is not what he is interested in. He is merely interested in trolling.

Were afinertouch5 honestly interested in knowing the name(s) of God that would be one thing but that is not what he is interested in. He is merely interested in trolling.

'He' sounds like warrior, imo.

Waaaay too smart to be Warrior. You think she could ever do something like this?

Note to the reincarnation of Warrior1972, AKA afinertouch5:


Well I was not posting what I thought was a
disingenious(sic) question

You are so full of crap your eyes are brown. Almost every question you have posted since joining Allforums has been disingenuous. The common understanding of the Ten Commandments is the one posted by Shilohproject. That is the one posted in courthouses, in churches, and in synagogues. There is a bit of disagreement between the Roman Catholic Church and the major Protestant bodies about the exact ordering and wording but those are the accepted Ten Commandments. When is the last time someone recited, "Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk", as one of the Ten Commandments.

You were not at all interested in knowing what the last of the Ten Commandments is. You once again were playing your childish little mind games and picking one of the more obscure text, a text that while it shares a bit of the same as the generally accepted one could be considered technically right by a nitpicker.

You did the same thing with your, What is the name of God, thread. You were wrong there just as you are wrong here.

Warrior was far brighter than people gave her credit for. (Hell, she had to be. No one could have actually been that dumb.)

trolling is also a fishing techique...fish, bait. if you can't find the connection, you should step away from the computer and go outside. Perhaps you should be the one going outside since you can't add anything of use to this thread now can you?:mad:

Actually the answer was any of the four choices.

In an attempt to be a bit of a weisenheimer, afinertouch5 outsmarted himself.

Yes, God is named Jealous. God is also named Jehovah and Holy (Holy God of Israel, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit of Promise) and Righteous (Rgteous Branch, Righteous Father).

Were afinertouch5 honestly interested in knowing the name(s) of God that would be one thing but that is not what he is interested in. He is merely interested in trolling.
And you should know you can't pick all four answers in a multiple choice. There was no answer that said all of the above. Sometimes the name of God is described as "holy" but the name itself is not "Holy" In Isaiah 29:23 the name of God is given as "The Holy one of Jacob." The name "Jehovah" is a christian mistake. It was forbidden to pronounce the name "YHWY"(Yahweh), and readers of the Herbrew scriptures were suppose to say "Adonai" in its place. In written text the vowels of Adonai were combined with the consonants YHWH to remind readers to pronounce Adonai instead of Yahweh. The incorrect hybrid, "Jehovah" arose from Christian misunderstanding in the late Middle Ages.

And you should know you can't pick all four answers in a multiple choice.

Perhaps you should learn how to better compose multiple choice questions, afinertouch5. If you don't have choices such as both A and B, none of the above or all of the above you had better be sure there is only one correct answer.

Since for the majority of us English is our first language and The Bible we read is in English the name Jehovah is indeed one of the names of God.

If you wish to pull your technical garbage then none of the choices you gave are correct since none of them were in either ancient Hebrew or Aramaic.

If you want to play your little pedandic games it would help if you were a wee bit more intelligent.


TROLL!

I dont know, I dont think hes all that smart. He doesnt really leave any of his own info until after he reads someone else' answers or replys.

I bet hes pretty good at reading palms as well. Might even be part of his gig as a message therapist.

Sp far I haven't seen an original thought from afinertouch5. He is fairly good at posting silly little trick questions but he seems awfully poor at generating any thoughts of his own.

A)Jealous B)Righteous C)Holy D)Jehovah

Depends on who's "God" you are referring to.

And no, a loving caring Christian also defends the faith, which is something you've been assualting "sinse" the very first post you made here.
So, fuck you.I'm wondering if anyone would like to take back a few key strokes here.:lolhit:

'He' sounds like warrior, imo.

Yeah...that's what I've been thinking.

Well I was not posting what I thought was a disingenious question, but I guess you might think it is a trick question but don't blame me for apparent contradictions in the bible. This would still not be a Bible contradiction, would it? Does the Bible say they are both The Ten Commandments? (Notice caps.)? For something to say that "he wrote down the ten commandments," it may simply be that the number of commandments he wrote down were ten. But when we speak of The Ten Commandments we are refering to the decalogue. And even if that naming were "contradictory" to scripture it would not support a claim that the Bible is contradictory in that matter; rather, we call it something that is extra-Biblical, like, say, the Rapture.

If you wish to find contradictory passages, or those at distinct tension with one another, you can do better.

Sp far I haven't seen an original thought from afinertouch5. He is fairly good at posting silly little trick questions but he seems awfully poor at generating any thoughts of his own.
I have at ton more!:woohoo:

This would still not be a Bible contradiction, would it? Does the Bible say they are both The Ten Commandments? (Notice caps.)? For something to say that "he wrote down the ten commandments," it may simply be that the number of commandments he wrote down were ten. But when we speak of The Ten Commandments we are refering to the decalogue. And even if that naming were "contradictory" to scripture it would not support a claim that the Bible is contradictory in that matter; rather, we call it something that is extra-Biblical, like, say, the Rapture.

If you wish to find contradictory passages, or those at distinct tension with one another, you can do better.
Of course I realize what ten commandments is used today. I was just showing something I thought was very interesting in the bible and it certainly could be taken to be a contradiction or at maybe someone just had a faulty memory! Ok, I have a bunch more and I know Frogger and Inviolable are waiting for my next question so they can call me names!

What is the penalty for working on the Sabbath? A)You will be stoned to death. B)Neither you nor your offspring to the 5th generation can enter the tabernacle. C)You should sacrifice two unblemished she goats. D)You will be disinherited from the kingdom? ================================================== ========Only the first correct answer gets the point!:D

Can't wait.

a. Numbers 15.35 (...outside the camp.)

Note to the reincarnation of Warrior1972, AKA afinertouch5:




You are so full of crap your eyes are brown. Almost every question you have posted since joining Allforums has been disingenuous. The common understanding of the Ten Commandments is the one posted by Shilohproject. That is the one posted in courthouses, in churches, and in synagogues. There is a bit of disagreement between the Roman Catholic Church and the major Protestant bodies about the exact ordering and wording but those are the accepted Ten Commandments. When is the last time someone recited, "Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk", as one of the Ten Commandments.

You were not at all interested in knowing what the last of the Ten Commandments is. You once again were playing your childish little mind games and picking one of the more obscure text, a text that while it shares a bit of the same as the generally accepted one could be considered technically right by a nitpicker.

You did the same thing with your, What is the name of God, thread. You were wrong there just as you are wrong here.
There just questions. If they bother you so much just stay out of the thread? Your not going to win the contest anyway. And by the way I'm not warrior1972 or whatever her name is. You have accused me of that before and your still wrong. So I guess your not toadly right all the time! :lolhit:

a. Numbers 15.35 (...outside the camp.)
Current score: Shiloproject=2 Vilepagan=1 Invioloble=0

I don't think you are Warrior1972. I just think you act like her. She was a troll too.

Who asked for help? It was a multiple choice question. Posting a poem was not one of the answers. Try again.

I will answer as I wish! You gave 4 possible answers to the question "What is Gods Name?".
There are many possible answers from numerous religions and beliefs.
Just because you are unable, or unwilling, to phrase answers in a proper manner does not limit anyone posting here to a particular reply.

I will not fall for select answers to what was originally a good question.

Select answers can be misleading. Example: I could ask you if you have always been as stupid as you appear to be today, and give you only yes or no to choose from.

What is the penalty for working on the Sabbath? A)You will be stoned to death. B)Neither you nor your offspring to the 5th generation can enter the tabernacle. C)You should sacrifice two unblemished she goats. D)You will be disinherited from the kingdom? ================================================== ========Only the first correct answer gets the point!:D

Again you limit the answers. Many of us feel that there is no penalty for working on the Sabbath.
I shall answer in this manner, especially, since I am not interested in any point system that you may conjure.

Perhaps you should be the one going outside since you can't add anything of use to this thread now can you?:mad:
i already answered your question. in fact, i was the 1st.:banana:

Can I buy a vowel?

I'll take Charles Nelson Reilly for the block.

Abominations for $400 Alex...

NO WHAMMIES! NO WHAMMIES!:lolhit:

Abominations for $400 Alex...
:lolhit:

How should parents treat a stuborn and rebellious son? A)He should be beaten seven times with a whip made of horsehair. B)He should be stripped and humiliated at the gate of the city. C)He should be expelled from the family. D) He should be stoned to death.

I assume you're referring to Leviticus, in which case the answer is D. But most Christians don't adhere to the Old Testament. So I don't really see your point.

I assume you're referring to Leviticus, in which case the answer is D. But most Christians don't adhere to the Old Testament. So I don't really see your point.
Well yes your answer is correct and of course most(hopefully all in this case) christians don't adhere to the old testament. The point of the question was to see who would get the correct answer first and that's you. Well actually I was getting it from Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Does it say to stone a stubborn son in Leviticus? Anyway, I noticed your Ron Paul quote and I have also noticed more cars with Ron Paul bumperstickers including a couple of my neighbors! Current score: Shiloproject=2,Vilepagan=1,Borghunter=1,Inviolable =0,Mr.Frogger=0

I don't think it's really fair to say there is a correct answer.

You can't actually prove that all of that is literal or figurative.

Nor can you prove that most Christians disregard the old testament. It is merely a matter of faith.

It seems the Christians we often attack for being extremists are the one's that rely heavily on the Old Testament.

Hey, I knew this one! How can you award points until people have a chance to see the question? :rant:

Shiloproject=2,Vilepagan=1,Borghunter=1,Inviolable =0,Mr.Frogger=0


Frogger isn't playing your silly game, afinertouch5 so of couse I have no points. Your questions are pointless and do not reflect Christianity today.

I don't begrudge you the fun you are having trolling but I do choose to not pick your little choices.

Hey, I knew this one! How can you award points until people have a chance to see the question? :rant:
Welcome to enlightenment, Shiloh! Why should people who don't believe in God believe in playing fair???

I mean... where's the motivation?

;)
SMW

(happy not to be included in this game)

One time in band camp afinertouch asked a question.

What happens if you are not a virgin on your wedding night? A)Your father must pay 100 shekels of silver to your husband. B) You can never approach the altar. C) You must dress in black and leave your husband for one year. D) You will be stoned to death.

I don't think it's really fair to say there is a correct answer.

You can't actually prove that all of that is literal or figurative.

Nor can you prove that most Christians disregard the old testament. It is merely a matter of faith.

It seems the Christians we often attack for being extremists are the one's that rely heavily on the Old Testament.
Oh really, well I certainly don't think it is fair to say it is unfair to say there is a correct answer. Out of the four choices this one is in the bible!!!!! Does not matter if it is the truth or a work of fiction. That's what it says. And if is not to be taken literal than what do you think it means figuratively? And merely a matter of faith? Where does that even come in to answering the question? And I have never set out to prove that most people don't regard the old testament. Do you think a lot of them do pertaining to this question?