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panzertruppen
07-21-2007, 11:48 PM
So how many of you out there, would let some government or private party inject a id chip into you? Me personally, I would tell them to stick it up their asses:upyours: :upyours:.

Imp
07-22-2007, 08:24 AM
It's looking like it won't be long, and it won't be an option either. Take a chip or starve...


Chips: High tech aids or tracking tools?

By TODD LEWAN, AP National Writer 2 hours, 58 minutes ago

CityWatcher.com (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_hi_te/storytext/chipping_america/23831175/SIG=10o9v4qn8/*http://CityWatcher.com), a provider of surveillance equipment, attracted little notice itself — until a year ago, when two of its employees had glass-encapsulated microchips with miniature antennas embedded in their forearms.


The "chipping" of two workers with RFIDs — radio frequency identification tags as long as two grains of rice, as thick as a toothpick — was merely a way of restricting access to vaults that held sensitive data and images for police departments, a layer of security beyond key cards and clearance codes, the company said.
"To protect high-end secure data, you use more sophisticated techniques," Sean Darks, chief executive of the Cincinnati-based company, said. He compared chip implants to retina scans or fingerprinting. "There's a reader outside the door; you walk up to the reader, put your arm under it, and it opens the door."
Innocuous? Maybe.
But the news that Americans had, for the first time, been injected with electronic identifiers to perform their jobs fired up a debate over the proliferation of ever-more-precise tracking technologies and their ability to erode privacy in the digital age.
To some, the microchip was a wondrous invention — a high-tech helper that could increase security at nuclear plants and military bases, help authorities identify wandering Alzheimer's patients, allow consumers to buy their groceries, literally, with the wave of a chipped hand.
To others, the notion of tagging people was Orwellian, a departure from centuries of history and tradition in which people had the right to go and do as they pleased, without being tracked, unless they were harming someone else.
Chipping, these critics said, might start with Alzheimer's patients or Army Rangers, but would eventually be suggested for convicts, then parolees, then sex offenders, then illegal aliens — until one day, a majority of Americans, falling into one category or another, would find themselves electronically tagged.
The concept of making all things traceable isn't alien to Americans. Thirty years ago, the first electronic tags were fixed to the ears of cattle, to permit ranchers to track a herd's reproductive and eating habits. In the 1990s, millions of chips were implanted in livestock, fish, dogs, cats, even racehorses.
Microchips are now fixed to car windshields as toll-paying devices, on "contactless" payment cards (Chase's "Blink," or MasterCard's "PayPass"). They're embedded in Michelin tires, library books, passports, work uniforms, luggage, and, unbeknownst to many consumers, on a host of individual items, from Hewlett Packard printers to Sanyo TVs, at Wal-Mart and Best Buy.
But CityWatcher.com (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_hi_te/storytext/chipping_america/23831175/SIG=10o9v4qn8/*http://CityWatcher.com) employees weren't appliances or pets: They were people made scannable.
"It was scary that a government contractor that specialized in putting surveillance cameras on city streets was the first to incorporate this technology in the workplace," says Liz McIntyre, co-author of "Spychips: How Major Corporations and Government Plan to Track Your Every Move with RFID."
Darks, the CityWatcher.com executive, dismissed his critics, noting that he and his employees had volunteered to be chip-injected. Any suggestion that a sinister, Big-Brother-like campaign was afoot, he said, was hogwash.
"You would think that we were going around putting chips in people by force," he told a reporter, "and that's not the case at all."
Yet, within days of the company's announcement, civil libertarians and Christian conservatives joined to excoriate the microchip's implantation in people.
RFID, they warned, would soon enable the government to "frisk" citizens electronically — an invisible, undetectable search performed by readers posted at "hotspots" along roadsides and in pedestrian areas. It might even be used to squeal on employees while they worked; time spent at the water cooler, in the bathroom, in a designated smoking area could one day be broadcast, recorded and compiled in off-limits, company databases.
"Ultimately," says Katherine Albrecht, a privacy advocate who specializes in consumer education and RFID technology, "the fear is that the government or your employer might someday say, 'Take a chip or starve.'"
Some Christian critics saw the implants as the fulfillment of a biblical prophecy that describes an age of evil in which humans are forced to take the "Mark of the Beast" on their bodies, to buy or sell anything.
Gary Wohlscheid, president of These Last Days Ministries, a Roman Catholic group in Lowell, Mich., put together a Web site that linked the implantable microchips to the apocalyptic prophecy in the book of Revelation.
"The Bible tells us that God's wrath will come to those who take the Mark of the Beast," he says. Those who refuse to accept the Satanic chip "will be saved," Wohlscheid offers in a comforting tone.







I didn't quote it all, for more read this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070722/ap_on_hi_te/chipping_america).

mikezila
07-22-2007, 08:42 AM
i'd do it only if i had another assignment that required body identification tags, but that's unlikely.

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 08:54 AM
Ah chip me I don't care. But it needs to be done in an area of the body that I can easily cut through and remove it in a potential emergency situation.

Phyrex
07-22-2007, 09:31 AM
Ah chip me I don't care. But it needs to be done in an area of the body that I can easily cut through and remove it in a potential emergency situation.

Eyeball

MichelleG.
07-22-2007, 01:33 PM
no way in hell is someone putting a chip in my body. :rant:

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 01:53 PM
Eyeball

eeeewwwwwwwwww.... rather between my webbed toes or under a wing...

Ride4Life
07-22-2007, 05:35 PM
eeeewwwwwwwwww.... rather between my webbed toes or under a wing...
Funny Sal, I thought you were already tagged.

Imp
07-22-2007, 05:44 PM
Ah chip me I don't care. But it needs to be done in an area of the body that I can easily cut through and remove it in a potential emergency situation.
In fact, microchips can be removed from the body — but it's not like removing a splinter.
The capsules can migrate around the body or bury themselves deep in the arm. When that happens, a sensor X-ray and monitors are needed to locate the chip, and a plastic surgeon must cut away scar tissue that forms around the chip.

*Oops, it entered the bloodstream and is heading toward the heart*

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Imp
07-22-2007, 05:47 PM
no way in hell is someone putting a chip in my body. :rant:

Why not? It has alot of benefits.

Ride4Life
07-22-2007, 05:48 PM
Does it come with salsa?

panzertruppen
07-22-2007, 06:32 PM
and when it gets all twisted and turns into George Orwell's 1984 the government has GPSS installed and knows every move you make, say good bye to freedom! And even if I and my family starve, it beats being a slave to the system, some say it will never happen, but maybe thats the best trick of all leading people to believe that it won`t. Do you believe that globalist exist and want to take over the world? or is that just a being paranoid. I am sure it is real. Absolute power corrupts absolutely ya see it every day just read the news and read between the lines, look at credit cards we are almost a cashless society now, people are dependent upon them they want kids in some places to thumb scan for school lunch all it will take is a little nudge and the chip is in, then it will be like getting immunized they will just do it to infants when they are born. do you think a chip can be made to influence brain waves? change the way a person thinks? it is alot to think about.

Ride4Life
07-22-2007, 06:45 PM
and when it gets all twisted and turns into George Orwell's 1984 the government has GPSS installed and knows every move you make, say good bye to freedom! do you think a chip can be made to influence brain waves? change the way a person thinks? it is alot to think about.
It most certainly can, if injected behind the ear and has sufficient neurotransmitter power

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 06:53 PM
Funny Sal, I thought you were already tagged.

tagged but not bagged... :D

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 06:55 PM
*Oops, it entered the bloodstream and is heading toward the heart*

Heart? What heart?

How is the stud muffin doing pretty mama? I usually miss your lazy ass when I come on.

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 06:59 PM
It most certainly can, if injected behind the ear and has sufficient neurotransmitter power

Good maybe we can add IQ points to 50% of our population.

Or maybe not... I would like a maid... not too zombie like. Oh and a pool boy. I want him to look like Impy's guy but I want him to have dim eyesight for obvious reasons. Get working on that for me will ya Ride, I'll be by the phone.

MichelleG.
07-22-2007, 07:03 PM
Why not? It has alot of benefits.


because......my fear of needles and surgery outweigh any benefits it may have:@@:

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 07:06 PM
because......my fear of needles and surgery outweigh any benefits it may have:@@:

Eh we'll gas ya down first... you won't even know we did it.

MichelleG.
07-22-2007, 07:07 PM
oh thanks.....gas me out....:lolhit:

~Sal~
07-22-2007, 07:14 PM
oh thanks.....gas me out....:lolhit:

What?

It'll be fun, ................. for some of us.

What yourself now. We don't want you all uptight when we do it. Not to worry. You won't even see us coming. :D Have a nice night now, ya hear!

Ride4Life
07-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Good maybe we can add IQ points to 50% of our population.

Or maybe not... I would like a maid... not too zombie like. Oh and a pool boy. I want him to look like Impy's guy but I want him to have dim eyesight for obvious reasons. Get working on that for me will ya Ride, I'll be by the phone.
Sal,
Come join me at my little community of Stepford, and I'll fix you right up. And bring Imp along. I think I have a spot for her too...........

We have rollong hills, swimming pools, gourmet cuisine (I've eliminated duck from the menu just for you), five star service, and everyones happy all the time....

~Sal~
07-23-2007, 07:50 AM
Sal,
Come join me at my little community of Stepford, and I'll fix you right up. And bring Imp along. I think I have a spot for her too...........

We have rollong hills, swimming pools, gourmet cuisine (I've eliminated duck from the menu just for you), five star service, and everyones happy all the time....

so long as I am one of the sinners and not one of the sinned upon.... we'll be there shortly, have to find the appropriate lounging garb.... have my pool boy ready....

Ride4Life
07-23-2007, 08:13 AM
so long as I am one of the sinners and not one of the sinned upon.... we'll be there shortly, have to find the appropriate lounging garb.... have my pool boy ready....
There are no sinners and there are no Saints at Stepford. Only very happy people living very happy lives. Living them just the way they thought life should be lived, in peaceful bliss.
Now please walk with me and I'll give you a tour of my laboratory....

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Sal!!! Don't do it....he's taking you for a Stepford wife!!

~Sal~
07-23-2007, 09:16 AM
Sal!!! Don't do it....he's taking you for a Stepford wife!!

that gave me a coffee choke....

I don't know why but I am still giggling over your post....

:thumbs:

he had better be careful with these silken feathers...

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 09:29 AM
that gave me a coffee choke....

I don't know why but I am still giggling over your post....

:thumbs:

he had better be careful with these silken feathers...

I'll find you a pool boy...we have plenty of extra...you don't need Ride for that and his microchips, for sure! I'd think Imp could share her's, anyway.

Ride4Life
07-23-2007, 09:30 AM
that gave me a coffee choke....

I don't know why but I am still giggling over your post....

:thumbs:

he had better be careful with these silken feathers...
Dont worry Sal. I wont ruffle a feather.
And Kimi, may I direct your attention to this beautiful cottage on the hill? I believe your Mr Wonderful has already expressed interest in it.....

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 09:46 AM
Dont worry Sal. I wont ruffle a feather.
And Kimi, may I direct your attention to this beautiful cottage on the hill? I believe your Mr Wonderful has already expressed interest in it.....

No way! I'm onto you, mister!!!

My Mr. Wonderful doesn't want a Stepford wife, anyway. ~checking for implanted chips~

Ride4Life
07-23-2007, 11:12 AM
No way! I'm onto you, mister!!!

My Mr. Wonderful doesn't want a Stepford wife, anyway. ~checking for implanted chips~
Thas not what he said when I gave him the tour

Imp
07-23-2007, 11:18 AM
and when it gets all twisted and turns into George Orwell's 1984 the government has GPSS installed and knows every move you make, say good bye to freedom! And even if I and my family starve, it beats being a slave to the system, some say it will never happen, but maybe thats the best trick of all leading people to believe that it won`t. Do you believe that globalist exist and want to take over the world? or is that just a being paranoid. I am sure it is real. Absolute power corrupts absolutely ya see it every day just read the news and read between the lines, look at credit cards we are almost a cashless society now, people are dependent upon them they want kids in some places to thumb scan for school lunch all it will take is a little nudge and the chip is in, then it will be like getting immunized they will just do it to infants when they are born. do you think a chip can be made to influence brain waves? change the way a person thinks? it is alot to think about.

So what if big brother knows your every move? Unless you're doing something you ought not be, you have nothing to worry about.
There a millions of folk, I seriously doubt they would be able to inject and trace and moniter us all so soon. It would take YEARS for that, possibly into the next generation or so.
I do see us headed toward a cashless society, and also a paperless one too. By that I mean things are getting so high tech and computerized to help make life easier.
Wouldn't it be great that if you fall ill, you just show up at the docs, he scans you and knows you entire medical history? Imagine the lives that would be saved that way.or you get in a car crash and they scan your chip and know right away who to notify ICE.
and if they scan the kids for lunch, you no longer have to worry about them losing their lunch money. *You wouldn't believe the amount I went thru with Sammy last year.*

As far as brain waves, I'm not sure. They've been implanting animals for some time now, I don't recall cases of them freaking out and going rabid because of it or altered brain waves.
Like ride said, near the brain, yes. I've read an article before about group telepathy and chips and how the govt could control us all by brainwash by sending waves out to us. But that would never work because there are so many other waves out there, like micro, that would interfere with the masses.

Besides, it's injected into your arm, not near your brain or heart.

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 11:19 AM
Thas not what he said when I gave him the tour

HA! HA! hmmmmmm, so that's where he was yesterday.......

Imp
07-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Heart? What heart?

How is the stud muffin doing pretty mama? I usually miss your lazy ass when I come on.

hahahaha.

He's doing great sweetie, perhaps too well! I think I'm starting to wear him out a bit, he said he was tired last night, that was first. But no, that didn't stop me.:banana:

I know, I miss you too, but I'm having the time of my life. Summer's passing fast and there still much I want to do. We've been going non stop it seems. I have tons of pics I'll have to share some when I get the chance.

Ride4Life
07-23-2007, 11:30 AM
HA! HA! hmmmmmm, so that's where he was yesterday.......
Step right this way, little missy. I have something to show you......

Imp
07-23-2007, 11:31 AM
I'll find you a pool boy...we have plenty of extra...you don't need Ride for that and his microchips, for sure! I'd think Imp could share her's, anyway.

Say whaaa?

Imp's not sharing her man, but last night at the pool there were 2 other hot bod's.
You really need to come visit and meet some them. *drools*

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 11:38 AM
Say whaaa?

Imp's not sharing her man, but last night at the pool there were 2 other hot bod's.
You really need to come visit and meet some them. *drools*

So, you're the one that lured all our pool boys away!!! It's okay, I've got my own, and I fully understand not sharing!

Imp
07-23-2007, 11:43 AM
So, you're the one that lured all our pool boys away!!! It's okay, I've got my own, and I fully understand not sharing!

I think I died and went to pool boy heaven! Bring yours and com'on over!:thumbs:

MrsKimi
07-23-2007, 11:56 AM
I think I died and went to pool boy heaven! Bring yours and com'on over!:thumbs:

:drive: On my way.......