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Frogger
07-16-2007, 10:34 AM
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Plague rats being used to supply restaurants
From correspondents in China
July 16, 2007 03:22pm

LIVE rats are being trucked from central China, suffering a plague of a reported two billion rodents displaced by a flooded lake, to the south of the of country to end up in restaurant dishes, Chinese media has reported.
"Recently there have been a lot of rats ... Guangzhou people are rich and like to eat exotic things, so business is very good,'' the China News Service quoted a vendor as saying.

Some vendors had asked people from a village in Hunan province, near Dongting Lake, to sell them live rats, the Beijing News said today.

"The buyers offered 6 yuan (9c) for a kilo, but as to where they will sell the rats, they would not say,'' the newspaper quoted a local resident as saying, adding that villagers had to catch the rats live.

"If we want to do that, there is no problem. We could catch 150 kilos of rats in one night .. .but we will not do this against our conscience,'' the villager was quoted as saying.

Some Guangdong restaurants were promoting "rat banquets'', charging 136 yuan ($20.70) for one kg of rat meat, the newspaper said.

Local governments in Hunan have been grappling with the rats, which had already destroyed 1.6 million hectares of crops and could spread disease, according to media reports.

A lack of snakes, also a popular dish in the south, and owls, a traditional Chinese medicine, was held partly responsible.

Chinese media reported last week that some internet users from Guangdong had offered rat recipes as a way to deal with the problem.

Scientists have also blamed China's massive Three Gorges Dam project and climate change for the Hunan rodents' flight to dry land.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22082887-2,00.html






Calvin W. Schwabe in his book Unmentionable Cuisine (Charlottesville, Virginia: University of Virginia Press, 1979, available from Amazon Books), says that North Americans should be using many forms of protein which are routinely consumed in other parts of the world. The following exerpts are from a section of the book giving recipes for cooking rats and mice.

"Brown rats and roof rats were eaten openly on a large scale in Paris when the city was under siege during the Franco-Prussian War. Observers likened their taste to both partridges and pork. And, according to the Larousse Gastronomique, rats are still eaten in some parts of France. In fact, this recipe appears in that famous tome.

Grilled Rats Bordeaux Style (Entrecote à la bordelaise)Alcoholic rats inhabiting wine cellars are skinned and eviscerated, brushed with a thick sauce of olive oil and crushed shallots, and grilled over a fire of broken wine barrels.What won't the French do next?

In West Africa, however, rats are a major item of diet. the giant rat (Cricetomys), the cane rat (Thryonomys), the common house mouse, and other species of rats and mice are all eaten. According to a United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization report, they now comprise of over 50 percent of the locally produced meat eaten in some parts of Ghana. Between December 1968 and June 1970, 258,206 pounds of cane-rat meat alone were sold in one market in Accra!

This is a local recipe that shows the South American influence on West African cuisine.Stewed Cane RatSkin and eviscerate the rat and split it lengthwise. Fry until brown in a mixture of butter and peanut oil. Cover with water, add tomatoes or tomato purée, hot red peppers, and salt. Simmer the rat until tender and serve with rice.

Stuffed Dormice / Ancient RomePrepare a stuffing of dormouse meat or pork, pepper, pine nuts, broth, asafoetida, and some garum (substitute anchovy paste.) Stuff the mice and sew them up. Bake them in an oven on a tile.

Roasted Field Mice (Raton de campo asado) / MexicoSkin and eviscerate field mice. Skewer them and roast over an open fire or coals. These are probably great as hors d'oeuvres with margaritas or "salty dogs.

"Farley Mowat also gives this innovative arctic explorer's recipe for souris à la crème.Mice in Cream (Souris à la crème)Skin, gut and wash some fat mice without removing their heads. Cover them in a pot with ethyl alcohol and marinate 2 hours. Cut a piece of salt pork or sowbelly into small dice and cook it slowly to extract the fat. Drain the mice, dredge them thoroughly in a mixture of flour, pepper, and salt, and fry slowly in the rendered fat for about 5 minutes. Add a cup of alcohol and 6 to 8 cloves, cover and simmer for 15 minutes. Prepare a cream sauce, transfer the sautéed mice to it, and warm them in it for about 10 minutes before serving.

DarkFantasy96
07-16-2007, 02:13 PM
I don't see the big deal about eating rats.

panzertruppen
07-17-2007, 01:46 PM
[So have you ever had one for lunch? what type of wine do you think they serve with that?I don't see the big deal about eating rats.

DarkFantasy96
07-17-2007, 01:51 PM
[So have you ever had one for lunch? what type of wine do you think they serve with that?
I haven't, but I'd certainly try it. And I don't like wine so I'm gonna say... Beer? :D

panzertruppen
07-18-2007, 12:15 AM
I have eaten some truly disgusting things, but never rat on a stick, if it was the only thing to eat, yes I would eat it, but I just would not order it when im eating out for dinner and a beer would be a great choice to wash it down better make that three.

M&Mdelite
07-18-2007, 07:12 PM
I would never knowingly eat rat meat.

BorgHunter
07-18-2007, 07:38 PM
What's wrong with rat meat? Rats are edible.

Overdose
07-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Ewwww that's gross.

Ride4Life
07-18-2007, 07:56 PM
Rat is great ground up and served with sauteed mushrooms and salsa.
Rattlesnake is still better pan fried in butter

MichelleG.
07-18-2007, 09:10 PM
I'm not hungry anymore........

Phyrex
07-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Well, they eat dog over here, its a delicacy. I haven't tried it yet, but maybe one day I will.

Overdose
07-18-2007, 10:47 PM
sad. :(

Phyrex
07-18-2007, 11:04 PM
sad. :(

They only use one certain breed though, its not like they just pick up any old dog and cook it up.

Overdose
07-18-2007, 11:44 PM
They only use one certain breed though, its not like they just pick up any old dog and cook it up.
Which breed?

Phyrex
07-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Which breed?

Not sure, I'd have to look it up, but from what I've been told they are very ugly, and not really very smart, lol.

MichelleG.
07-19-2007, 12:04 AM
Well, they eat dog over here, its a delicacy. I haven't tried it yet, but maybe one day I will.


my brother in law served in the Army over there and he said the same thing. He actually did eat it and said it was pretty nasty.

Jester
07-19-2007, 12:39 AM
I didn't eat dog meat when I was there but I did see a dog farm once... and yeah, they're not the cutest dogs around.

Sparky2
07-19-2007, 06:37 AM
The dogs that the old Korean guys raise for food (the younger Koreans don't really like it) are unattractive because they are inbred beyond belief.

Those poor pups live a fairly short life, thank God. They are housed in atrocious conditions before they are slaughtered and sent to market.

The young guys and gals at Camp Stanton had adopted a couple of escapee's from a nearby dog farm. They were odd-looking from being inbred. Short, awkward legs they had, and overly-large heads.

Still, they were sweet and affectionate doggies, and they were spoiled rotten from all the attention they got from the soldiers and aviators. They would bunk down wherever they ended up on a given evening, usually on the blankets next a sleeping Cav trooper.

It was heartwarming to see them live such a good life, considering how close they had come to being somebody's dinner just months before.



http://www.koreananimals.org/images/rotate/7.jpg

MichelleG.
07-19-2007, 02:55 PM
if thats a picture of the dogs they use,then I can't say it's unattractive. That one in the pic is down right cute

Imp
07-19-2007, 02:57 PM
They only use one certain breed though, its not like they just pick up any old dog and cook it up.

The younger, the more tender. You should try it and let us know.

panzertruppen
07-19-2007, 06:12 PM
Funny thing, I just killed a wood rat in the barn and I cant say that I have the urge to cook him up for lunch. Nope just not gonna do it! but hell get a few more drinks in me and who knows, maybe I will make a nice fresh mint sauce for it.

Frogger
07-19-2007, 06:12 PM
Over the years I've eaten squirrel, alligator, crocodile, kangaroo, emu, wild boar, tiger (back when it was legal), pigeon, possum, ants, snake, chocolate covered squid, turtle, and even a live Witchity Grub so I would probably take a bite of rat if it was cooked right. Food is food and most of our problems with it are because of cultural differences.

rendova
07-19-2007, 06:49 PM
I've eaten ants ( to win a dollar once) but never a turtle.

I'm too fond of turtles to eat one. They are just too cute--unless it's an alligator snapper, in which case it would probably eat YOU.

Could anyone ever eat a tarantula????????? ( I mean, a living one)

MichelleG.
07-19-2007, 07:01 PM
I'll try just about anything once,but I can't even begin to think I'd wanna try rat.

DarkFantasy96
07-19-2007, 07:16 PM
I'd DEFINITELY eat a rat before a tarantula!

Ride4Life
07-19-2007, 08:13 PM
You might want to chop the little spideys head off first, so the little muthuh dont bite on the way down.

Frogger, I'm with you on this. Chow is chow, no matter how you cook it up. If youre hungry, you'll eat anything. Including that roach crawling across the counter.

DarkFantasy96
07-19-2007, 08:53 PM
I could eat a roach if it was dead. I don't think I'd eat anything while it was still alive, easy enough to kill it first usually.

Oldtimer
07-20-2007, 12:11 AM
Which breed?

I'd guess the Chow Chow.

mhenning
08-05-2007, 03:19 PM
Ohhh, that is not appealing to me. Although in China it probably is as normal as hot dogs are to us, shoot they think monkey brains are a delicacy.