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Frogger
06-30-2007, 03:25 AM
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Jun 29, 2007 1:38 PM (14 hrs ago)
by The Washington DC Examiner Newspaper
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(Al Grillo/AP)
Chief Justice John Roberts gives the keynote speech during the Alaska Bar Association convention in Fairbanks, Alaska, Thursday, May 3. WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Historians may one day look back on this week as the true beginning of “the Roberts court.” In two milestone decisions, Chief Justice John G. Roberts struck mighty blows this week on behalf of restoring two of the most basic principles of the American creed. Those principles are the right of every person to speak his or her mind about his elected representatives without fear of official penalty and the right of every person to be treated equally under the law without regard to his or her ethnicity.

As the youngest chief justice since John Marshall ascended to the bench, Roberts — joined vigorously by Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, and more reservedly by Justice John Paul Stevens — laid the foundation for a renewed respect for, and adherence to, the Constitution.

The first blow came Monday in FEC v. Wisconsin Right to Life Inc., when the Roberts court struck down as unconstitutional a key provision of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. The offending provision banned certain broadcast political ads mentioning the names of specific candidates — i.e. incumbent congressmen — during the 60 days prior to a general election and 30 days before a primary balloting.

The chief justice noted in the decision that the First Amendment requires a strong presumption against official censorship of political speech. And in a refreshingly direct statement, Roberts threw out the idea that federal bureaucrats can constitutionally assess the propriety of political speech based on the speakers’ intent.

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“Enough is enough,” Roberts said. We can almost hear the founding generation that gave us America saying “hear, hear!”

The second blow came Thursday as the Roberts court dared touch the third rail of federal judicial activism, the notion that students can be assigned to specific public schools because of their race. In doing so, Roberts blew away the sophistic fog that advocates of racial quotas in education have used for decades to obscure the obvious: Telling Johnny he must go to a specific school because he is black or white is as great a constitutional outrage when practiced by progressive educators in 2007 as it was when carried out by Southern segregationists prior to the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education.

In a passage that invites legal challenges of race-based classification in other spheres of activity, Roberts noted that “accepting racial balancing as a compelling state interest would justify imposing racial proportionality throughout American society, contrary to the court’s repeated admonitions that this is unconstitutional. While the school districts use various verbal formulations to describe the interest they seek to promote — racial diversity, avoidance of racial isolation, racial integration — they offer no definition suggesting that their interest differs from racial balancing.”

His clear-headed reasoning was an eloquent expression of judicial restraint.

http://www.examiner.com/a-805428~Editorial__Roberts_era_has_begun.html?cid=a ll-hp-featured_editorial

Lungdop Philing
06-30-2007, 12:14 PM
Why did you leave out the one where they, for all practical purposes, overturned Brown V. Board of education? IOW: school segregation is back.

This hard right turn by the court (after ALito and Roberts lied to congress to get confirmed) will result in one of the following or both ...

1) The 2009 dem white house impeaching a few judges
2) The 2009 dem white house extending the Supreme court to 11 members, resulting in the dems sending 2 new and very liberal members to the bench to swing the court back left.

LionelHutz
06-30-2007, 09:15 PM
Why did you leave out the one where they, for all practical purposes, overturned Brown V. Board of education? IOW: school segregation is back.


Amazing. By not allowing schools to DISCRIMINATE on the basis of race, they've undone Brown. You never cease to amaze me, Dop.

OldPhart
06-30-2007, 09:31 PM
1) The 2009 dem white house impeaching a few judges
2) The 2009 dem white house extending the Supreme court to 11 members, resulting in the dems sending 2 new and very liberal members to the bench to swing the court back left.

Then they will have enough to field a football team!

I think checks and balances apply here... the executive branch cannot re-write the constitution's balance system... other-wise we would have 972 supreme court justices by now... lol

sedan
06-30-2007, 09:51 PM
FDR tried it and failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_Reorganization_Bill_of_1937#Open_Problem s

Foolsworth
06-30-2007, 10:14 PM
[QUOTE=sedan]FDR tried it and failed.


And F.D.R's New Deal wasn't such a bargain,after all.
It had long-term effects that caused a shift in the way
Banks operated and Price controls,w/o an expansionn of the
money supply,did a disservice by keeping Prices & wages UP,artificially.

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 08:10 AM
Then they will have enough to field a football team!

I think checks and balances apply here... the executive branch cannot re-write the constitution's balance system... other-wise we would have 972 supreme court justices by now... lol

You're correct that the executive branch, by herself, can not change the constitution but a dem house and dem senate certainly can and the best bet you can make next year is that the dems will have complete control of both houses in Jan '09 -- veto proof, fillibuster-proof and Lieberman-proof. Now, go LOL about that one.

ROTFLMAO

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Amazing. By not allowing schools to DISCRIMINATE on the basis of race, they've undone Brown. You never cease to amaze me, Dop.

I call it the way I see it Lionel.

But the premise of my post was that Frogger left out (intentionally?) that the supreme court made that particular ruling.

Would you care to comment on that or just tell me how much I amaze you?

Freethinker
07-01-2007, 08:36 AM
the best bet you can make next year is that the dems will have complete control of both houses in Jan '09 -- veto proof, fillibuster-proof and Lieberman-proof.

And when (if) that happens.......<yaaawn>.......nothing of any importance will change.

The Democrats are only a slightly less despicable and deceitful band of Corporatists than their "counterparts" the Republicans.

America will STILL be at war, we will STILL be giving away the store to the military/Industrial complex, to the tune of over a half a trillion taxdollars a year.

Meet the new boss..........

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/cartoonboy/images/bigmoney.GIF

Evakian
07-01-2007, 08:57 AM
Our new boss is "Image Hosted by ANGELFIRE"

Check out his campaign website at www.angelfire.com/rl

He's got my vote.

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 09:14 AM
And when (if) that happens.......<yaaawn>.......nothing of any importance will change.

The Democrats are only a slightly less despicable and deceitful band of Corporatists than their "counterparts" the Republicans.

America will STILL be at war, we will STILL be giving away the store to the military/Industrial complex, to the tune of over a half a trillion taxdollars a year.

Meet the new boss..........

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/cartoonboy/images/bigmoney.GIF

I agree with you on general terms but ...

The dems will end this so-called war (I call it genocide) before the '08 elections ... actually the republicans will end it ... if they're smart.

Anyway, we won't be at war.

And to say the dems will change nothing is either foolish or uninformed ... I suspect it's foolish as you come across as being informed.

America is getting sick(o) and tired of supporting a health care system and education system for Iraq with their tax payer dollars while nothing is being done here to correct the flaws in our own systems.

And the 1st thing the dems will do is toss NAFTA and start bringing the jobs back home. Of course, that will mean a universal health care system will have to be put in place so look for inroads in that arena too.

Yes, we will still be feeding the military-industrial complex but not to the degree we had been ... just ask some of my hundreds of friends from that industry that are presently unemployed due to major cutbacks in defense ... no, the media didn't report it so you'll have to take my word for it.

LionelHutz
07-01-2007, 09:53 AM
But the premise of my post was that Frogger left out (intentionally?) that the supreme court made that particular ruling.

What do you mean he left it out?

The second blow came Thursday as the Roberts court dared touch the third rail of federal judicial activism, the notion that students can be assigned to specific public schools because of their race. In doing so, Roberts blew away the sophistic fog that advocates of racial quotas in education have used for decades to obscure the obvious: Telling Johnny he must go to a specific school because he is black or white is as great a constitutional outrage when practiced by progressive educators in 2007 as it was when carried out by Southern segregationists prior to the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education.

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 09:57 AM
What do you mean he left it out?

OK -- I'll presume that wasn't an added edit (post my post) and recind my remark. Do I still amaze you?

Freethinker
07-01-2007, 10:34 AM
I agree with you on general terms but ...

The dems will end this so-called war (I call it genocide) before the '08 elections ...

I disagree.

Anyway, we won't be at war.

I don't believe it.

And to say the dems will change nothing is either foolish or uninformed ... the 1st thing the dems will do is toss NAFTA ...

If it were possible, i'd wager you a thousand dollars that that does not happen. It was installed under a Democrat, lest you forget.

and start bringing the jobs back home.

:rolleyes: Now you are being either foolish or uninformed.

Of course, that will mean a universal health care system will have to be put in place so look for inroads in that arena too.

Riiiiiiiight. "Inroads". Wake up. The Corporate masters are not about to allow the political whores to install a universal health care system for the Public that will cover the 50 million people who are not now covered.

Yes, we will still be feeding the military-industrial complex but not to the degree we had been ...

Riiiiiiiiight.

Our defense budget is approaching $900 billion per year if you include all the "war on terror" supplementals (DOD and non-DOD), DOD's Base spending, etc.

The Dems will probably "cut it" from 900 billion a year to 850 billion a year.

dharmabum
07-01-2007, 04:29 PM
Somehow it figures that the worst President in American history would usher in one of the worst Supreme Court's in American history.

:rant:

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 04:55 PM
I disagree.


I respect your opinion so fair enough.


I don't believe it.


ditto


If it were possible, i'd wager you a thousand dollars that that does not happen. It was installed under a Democrat, lest you forget.


short answer = it is possible but if I want to wager I'll go to the track or LV -- FWIW ... wagering does not scare me. During an average year, I push 100K-200k (or more) through the windows. Been doing that since the 70's :D


:rolleyes: Now you are being either foolish or uninformed.
well pick one


Riiiiiiiight. "Inroads". Wake up. The Corporate masters are not about to allow the political whores to install a universal health care system for the Public that will cover the 50 million people who are not now covered.

Do the math .. health care accounts for 15% of GDP ... then figure an annual increase of 8%-12% ... how much longer can it continue the way it is?


Riiiiiiiiight.

Our defense budget is approaching $900 billion per year if you include all the "war on terror" supplementals (DOD and non-DOD), DOD's Base spending, etc.

The Dems will probably "cut it" from 900 billion a year to 850 billion a year.

Northrop Grumman just closed a half-dosen building in San Diego (Rancho Bernardo), Raytheon is consolidating, Boeing and Lockheed have nothing in the pipe other than previous commitments ... Honeywell is resorting to satellite design to keep things going ... and hundreds of defense workers layed off and more to come.

Defense spending is spiralling down at the level where the average american will ever see it's benefit... your point about the Halliburtons and KBR's of the world is noted.

LionelHutz
07-01-2007, 10:06 PM
Do I still amaze you?

Yes, but after reading the editorial in today's paper, it appears that you're not exactly on the fringe on this issue. I'll chalk up my reaction to too much caffeine.

Lungdop Philing
07-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Yes, but after reading the editorial in today's paper, it appears that you're not exactly on the fringe on this issue. I'll chalk up my reaction to too much caffeine.

There's no such thing as too much caffeine :D