The Associated Press
Thursday, June 28, 2007

WASHINGTON: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney.

Obama said he would not back such a move, although he has been distressed by the "loose ethical standards, the secrecy and incompetence" of a "variety of characters" in the administration.

"There's a way to bring an end to those practices, you know: vote the bums out," the presidential candidate said, without naming Bush or Cheney. "That's how our system is designed."

The term for Bush and Cheney ends on Jan. 20, 2009. Bush cannot constitutionally run for a third term, and Cheney has said he will not run to succeed Bush.

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, nonstop circus."

Obama, son of a Kenyan father and American mother, spoke at a weekly constituent breakfast he sponsors with Illinois' other senator, Dick Durbin. He was asked about impeachment.

Hmmm, a rational point of view, how refreshing. The Republicans blew it when they went after Clinton. If we can avoid impeaching another president for a while we might be OK, but if not, we'll just get to the point where articles of impeachment are drawn up by the other party as soon as the inauguration is finished.

Obama said he would not back such a move.....

Yes, he did............like the good little corporate lackey that he is.

Big surprise. :rolleyes:

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"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction" ---------Barack Obama

translation; "If we hang one of our own for being a crook, the People may one day wake up and decide to hang us all".

Hmmm, a rational point of view, how refreshing. The Republicans blew it when they went after Clinton. If we can avoid impeaching another president for a while we might be OK, but if not, we'll just get to the point where articles of impeachment are drawn up by the other party as soon as the inauguration is finished.

I've wondered if a "tit-for-tat" impeachment would come up if the Dems really got a significant number in the houses.

While the houses are never a particularly productive bunch, giving them impeachment hearings to play with brings everything else to a screeching halt. When they were going after Clinton, it seems like they did nothing else. Now Clinton pulls down (?) $10 million plus whatever it costs to keep an ex-POTUS safe and sound and all that.

Doubtless Bush & Co are waist deep in all kinds of nefarious shit. Go after him & the others after the elections. If they're all not immediately pardoned by the incoming POTUS, then the courts could have a heyday.

I like this guy more and more every time he opens his mouth...

"vote the bums out"... a classic line about democracy...

I Loooooooooove Obama

hahahaha

The Republicans blew it when they went after Clinton.

Boy, did they. They lowered the impeachment bar to the %$#@! gutter. It would serve them right to have their boys get the same shitass treatment they gave Clinton. I mean, if fibbing about a blow job is worthy of impeachment, what the Bush Crime Family has done during their time in office is worthy of being stood up against a wall and being shot.

Sadly, the Rebublicans have now fucked up legitimate impeachment attempts forever. I don't want congress to waste its time putting these SOBs in jail, because there are so damned many things BushCo has screwed up that need fixing; an impeachment would put all that on hold.

BUT I can't tell you how much I want to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al in black and white stripes. es is right - we should wait till they're out of power and then slam the door on them.

If there's any justice in the world, they'll end up in Joe Arpaio's care - wearing pink undies and busting their asses on chain gangs in the Arizona sun for the rest of their natural lives.

:rant:

I love how Clinton still had a 60% approval rating at the end of his Presidency.

Look at Bush's. HAHA.

I love how Clinton still had a 60% approval rating at the end of his Presidency.

Look at Bush's. HAHA.

That is because, dispite all Clinton's faults, he was not blatently corrupt the way Bush is.

:thumbs:

Hmmm, a rational point of view, how refreshing. The Republicans blew it when they went after Clinton. If we can avoid impeaching another president for a while we might be OK, but if not, we'll just get to the point where articles of impeachment are drawn up by the other party as soon as the inauguration is finished.

I'm confused about you guys constantly talking about Clinton's impeachment. What impeachment? Did they actually do it? I don't remember that.

I'm confused about you guys constantly talking about Clinton's impeachment. What impeachment? Did they actually do it? I don't remember that.Yes, Clinton was impeached.

He was acquitted, though, so he was not removed from office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

Yes, Clinton was impeached.

He was acquitted, though, so he was not removed from office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
Thanks sedan... :(

Clinton told a big fat lie under oath. That is not a fib.

Now kids think that a BJ is not sex.

Oh and no one has proven anything corrupt on Bush. The Clinton lie under oath is a big fat FACT.


Boy, did they. They lowered the impeachment bar to the %$#@! gutter. It would serve them right to have their boys get the same shitass treatment they gave Clinton. I mean, if fibbing about a blow job is worthy of impeachment, what the Bush Crime Family has done during their time in office is worthy of being stood up against a wall and being shot.

Sadly, the Rebublicans have now fucked up legitimate impeachment attempts forever. I don't want congress to waste its time putting these SOBs in jail, because there are so damned many things BushCo has screwed up that need fixing; an impeachment would put all that on hold.

BUT I can't tell you how much I want to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al in black and white stripes. es is right - we should wait till they're out of power and then slam the door on them.

If there's any justice in the world, they'll end up in Joe Arpaio's care - wearing pink undies and busting their asses on chain gangs in the Arizona sun for the rest of their natural lives.

:rant:

Clinton told a big fat lie under oath. That is not a fib.

Now kids think that a BJ is not sex.

Oh and no one has proven anything corrupt on Bush. The Clinton lie under oath is a big fat FACT.
Sure, lying under oath is wrong.

But what did he lie about? A BLOWJOB.

Slick Willie lived up to his reputation - slather himself and those around him in shit & walk away smelling like a rose.

Now kids think that a BJ is not sex.

Oh jeez, they thought that anyway.

Oh jeez, they thought that anyway.


Damn right... Bill had nothing to do with that...

The title of this thread should be ..

Obama says he doesn't want to be president

What is this guy thinking?

Slick Willie lived up to his reputation - slather himself and those around him in shit........

I'm very curious to hear your take on how what he did equated to *slathering himself and those around him with shit*..........?

Having sex with an intern? Is that what prompts the *slathering himself and those around him with shit* claim..........?

The title of this thread should be ..

Obama says he doesn't want to be president

What is this guy thinking?

I don't think he understands that impeachment of this whole administration would be cathartic for the majority of the nation.

:alien: